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November 12, 2011

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“Watchlist Orders” have been in use for 39 years, Arroyo’s ex-Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez says  –  My exclusive

By Raïssa Robles

PART 1:

A piece of paper called the “Watchlist Order” is all that’s keeping ex-President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo and her husband from traveling overseas. They have asked the Supreme Court to scrap Watchlist Orders altogether because these violate their constitutional right to travel. They pointed out that no case has been filed yet in court against them.

But their motion has angered Yogie Martirizar, who has been prevented from traveling abroad for the last four years by a similar Watchlist Order imposed on her by the government of former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.

Her requests to scrap the Watchlist Order were repeatedly turned down by the Arroyo government, Martirizar’s lawyer Nena Santos told me in an interview.

Martirizar’s case is particularly interesting because she suffers from a similar endocrine disorder as Mrs Arroyo. Santos said:

Martirizar suffers almost the same calcium deficiency absorption sickness as that of GMA. She has doctors in the Philippines that treat her for the same sickness as Arroyo.

Like the Arroyo couple, Matirizar is also charged with electoral sabotage.  And like them, her case is still also under preliminary investigation and has not reached the court.

UPDATE: I’ve elaborated on Yogie Martirizar’s case in a recent post entitled – Gloria Arroyo’s downfall actually started in July

And contrary to what some commenters have pointed out to me, I want to repeat that to this day Martirizar’s case has remained under preliminary investigation at the Pasay City Regional Trial Court, the same place where Mrs Arroyo is now charged with the same crime of electoral sabotage.

Martirizar and Arroyo might even meet in court because she is now one of the witnesses for the prosecution against Arroyo.

 Martirizar’s lawyer Nena Santos said:

When they were not affected, it was okay for them to affect ordinary citizens like my client with the Watchlist Order and let her suffer. Now, it’s karma. They want it removed.

Arroyo should be treated same as Martirizar, pursuant to Justice Secretary Alberto Agra’s Watchlist Order. Martirizar was not allowed by immigration to travel; GMA should likewise be treated the same with her own administration department order that curtailed Martirizar’s right to travel.

The Supreme Court will meet Tuesday on Arroyo’s plea. Santos said she might intervene because an SC ruling in Arroyo’s favor would prejudice her client:

I want to tell the Supreme Court that before, when my client was prejudiced (by the Watchlist Order), they did not complain. Now that they are affected they want it declared illegal and unconstitutional. Are they admitting now – that even before – they knew it was unconstitutional and illegal and yet they used it against my client?

Santos said they had never questioned the Watchlist Order because:

When a government agency issues an order, there is a presumption of regularity and validity.

Santos estimated that several thousand Filipinos have been similarly affected by Watchlist Orders imposed during Arroyo’s nine-year presidency. [The present Watchlist itself is unavailable online. But you can get an idea of how extensive it is by viewing the historical list of “lifted” Watchlist Orders”. To do that,  click on this link.]

GMA - WATCHLIST 2 lists per year

From the Philippine Bureau of Immigration website

 

Santos said that if the SC rules in Arroyo’s favor, the other “victims” of Watchlist Orders could use the court ruling to file a damage suit against Mrs Arroyo and her former justice secretaries who had prevented them from traveling abroad even though they knew that Watchlist Orders violated the Constitution. She said that after all, the Justice Secretary is the alter ego of the President and acts on her behalf.

 

PART 2:

Wanting to know more about Watchlist Orders, I turned to a reliable expert  – Arroyo’s former Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez.

He was her Justice Secretary for five of nine years. Besides, I noticed on the Bureau of Immigration website that Gonzalez had been “lifting” numerous Watchlist Orders during his watch, which made me curious about how those orders are imposed and lifted.

This is what Gonzalez told me:

The use of the Watchlist dates back to the Martial Law years (imposed in 1972). I (myself) was in that watchlist before, during Martial Law.

I asked him whether the Justice Secretary had the power to put names on the Watchlist Order. He said:

Yes. The watchlist in effect is an order to prevent criminals or violators of the law from just flying in and out of the country without any alert.

I asked him whether he could put on the Watchlist the names of people who are still under preliminary investigation and who have not been charged in court. He said:

As far as I’m concerned at that time (I was Justice Secretary) – yes – but that has got to be used with discretion.

If I’m on the watchlist, for example, the immigration will stop me from leaving.

Normally,what really should be done is if you suspect you might be in the watchlist you check with Immigration first before you go to the airport. That is the more prudent thing to do.

The government has to protect the integrity of processes in the country.

During the course of the interview, I asked Gonzalez thrice the same question – Just to clarify, Sir, are you saying that people who are under preliminary investigation with no case filed yet in court can be placed on the Watchlist?

Thrice, Gonzalez replied:

Yes.

He explained that –

When there is a preliminary investigation, at least there is already a case. Medyo may basis na – kasi may kaso na ending before the prosecutors. (There is somewhat a basis because there is already a case ending before the prosecutors.) But that is not something that will take the place of a court order. The Constitution speaks of a court order.

In my time, when somebody was in the watchlist and when his lawyer would call me and complain, that gave me the chance to make an appreciation of his case and status.

You see, a watchlist may be the result of a rumor. There are people who may be envious of somebody. Let’s take the case of the husband – who wants to leave – the wife asked for him to be on the watchlist because the husband is taking all his children, things like that.

This is not something that has to be abused.

There is really a fundamental right to travel. A humanitarian right and a constitutional right.

I asked Gonzalez if the legal basis for the Watchlist was really the 1987 Administrative Code.

He said:

I think so. I’m not very sure of that now.

I asked him – Is the Secretary of Justice ultimately responsible for putting people on that Watchlist?

He said:

Of course.

Then I added, but can the Secretary of Justice delegate this function?

He said yes but the Secretary of Justice ultimately remains responsible:

When the Secretary of Justice accepts a request for somebody to be placed under the watchlist, you do not always have time to examine that (request). So you phone the complainant to let that person justify it. The prudent Secretary, if there is such a thing, will try to make some preliminary findings that this request is true or not.

A very close friend of my wife wanted somebody to be placed on the watchlist. He has abandoned a daughter of this friend of ours – you watch out for cases like those, somewhat flimsy.

I asked him if anybody ever questioned the constitutionality of Watchlist Orders during his time. He said:

No, because there is a presumption of good faith.

Do you think GMA should be on the Watchlist, I asked him. Gonzalez replied:

I don’t want to discuss the case of Mrs Arroyo. That’s sub judice. I was one of those who asked her to file this, to go to the courts. About a week ago I had lunch with her.

How was she? I asked

She is sick. You can see. I have been with her for more than five years. She’s weak. I had lunch with her. You could see her appetite is not good.

Will you help her, I asked. He said –

If they will ask me. Although the president considers me as an adviser in these legal things. I asked her about her lead counsel. I said Maam if you need me just let me know. She’s in very good hands with Titong Mendoza.

I just want to tell you – during Martial Law at the cruelest period of our history – Ninoy (Aquino, the incumbent President’s father) was convicted, by Military Commission Number 2. I was one of his lawyers.

(When Ninoy fell sick and needed operation abroad) Imelda (Marcos) even escorted Ninoy to the plane at that time. Not only Ninoy, (Senator Jose) Diokno was also allowed (to go abroad). He was an inmate to Ninoy in Laur. Diokno was also allowed to leave for the US.

(Jovito) Salonga was also allowed to go. And Salonga never came back until the end of Martial Law.

Do you think Arroyo will return if allowed overseas, I asked him. Gonzalez replied:

She will return, I’m sure of that. She will return. I don’t think she will leave her name in the mud I don’t think she’s (Senator Panfilo) Lacson.

He added that in Arroyo’s case,

The use of the Watchlist is obviously being abused now.

When I asked him to elaborate, he said,

I would not like to discuss it.

Of the current Justice Secretary Leila de Lima, Gonzalez had this to say:

Obviously, while she is the one making the order, she is under orders herself. How many times has she said she will make a decision already. She and Ona (the health secretary) were called to the Palace.

Now we know each other. Her father is a close friend of mine. We were both governors of IBP (Integrated Bar of the Philippines) during Martial Law years. Her Auntie Lilia – the one in the EPZA (Export Processing Zone Authority) is also a friend of mine.

Why she doesn’t bend, she’s afraid she might lose her job.

I asked Gonzalez again whether a Justice Secretary could delegate the Watchlist function. He said:

At the end of the day, it will be the Secretary to determine.

I had a political enemy before – in Iloilo – na watchlist siya – he was leaving for Europe. I allowed him to go. I let him go. You have to do this always with a degree of fairness. Of legality.

And so I asked Gonzalez – do you think placing GMA on the Watchlist is unfair? He replied –

I think you can read it (my answer) already.

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Comments

  1. Teresita says

    February 28, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    Ako rin nabiktima ng isang taong may koneksyon sa gobyerno at ako ay naiplagay sa WLO na walang basehan. Sa records section nila ay walang dokumento na maaring makapagsabi kung bakit ako nas WLO simula noong Sep 2007.

    • raissa says

      February 28, 2012 at 1:09 PM

      Sino kaya ang may pakana sa WLO mo?

  2. nol banzon says

    January 17, 2012 at 1:11 PM

    great to have individuals who’s got guts.
    we need all of your kind.
    may your tribe increase!!!

    nol

  3. joselin kobayashi says

    December 18, 2011 at 11:29 PM

    I really enjoyed reading your articles. Kindly update me of your new posts.

    Sinceerely,
    Joselin

    • raissa says

      December 19, 2011 at 8:06 AM

      To get updates by e-mail, you can enter your e-mail address on the left-hand side.

      Or just log in to my site.

      I try to update almost daily :)

  4. Pickers in Markham says

    December 16, 2011 at 3:48 AM

    A good piece written by Raul Pangalangan of the inquirer. Check it out http://opinion.inquirer.net/19229/%e2%80%98save-the-constitution-from-the-court%e2%80%a6%e2%80%99

    • raissa says

      December 16, 2011 at 10:56 AM

      If I recall right, Dean Pangalangan was my dad’s student.

      What my dad’s student did not know was that my dad entrusted to me the adding up of all the students’ scores in their test papers :)

      So I knew who was flunking and who was doing well.

  5. Pickers in Markham says

    December 13, 2011 at 11:06 PM

    Impeachment is a purely political process but so is the appointment itself. The fact is, the CJSC is a political appointee without even delving into how he was appointed in the first place. Neither side can claim a monopoly of fairness except their own take of the “rule of law”. As spectacular as it may seem from a tabloid readership perspective is, the people should not be enamored and passionate on how events will unfold as there is a snowball chance in hell this whole exercise will affect their lives. Realistically speaking CJ Corona will most likely be removed and he knows that. If he drags his feet until it happens, he deserves it as it only proves one thing – the utter lack of statemanship on his part. If he resigns in humility, he should be given the proper respect and honor because nothing is proven yet such act spared the country from a constitutional crisis.

    • eye says

      December 15, 2011 at 2:53 PM

      We are all in these. To think that we are not is very naïve. If CJ Corona is convicted, our judicial system will be compromised to say the very least. If CJ Corona is acquitted, our executive branch will be humiliated. So, where does that leave us …

      Guess, if anything at all … we will know more, much much more about the quality of our elected officials, the CONGRESSMEN, who couldn’t even wait to read and review the complaint and thus attach a ‘verification’ to their signatures to it, as is required by law when anyone files a complaint, our SENATORS, whether they will judge according to the strength of the evidence ALONE or their popularity rating and finally the PRESIDENT, if he can accept an acquittal or will he force the hand of the law and grab it for himself.

      The people’s voice is only clearly heard through an election, a plebiscite and a revolution. Not and never in a survey!

      I have never been part of any survey, nor do I know of anyone who has partaken of one. Might not know of a whole lot of people but it appears to me that this so called survey is only for that very selected chosen few.

      • Pickers in Markham says

        December 15, 2011 at 10:12 PM

        The entire process they have taken to was clearly an embarassmnt, Regardless,the CJ and his spouse should see the wisdom to step down.

        • eye says

          December 16, 2011 at 8:32 AM

          Right again … unfortunately, this administration doesn’t have any concept of statesmanship, humility, respect or honor … how could they then afford that to any one! It’s for this very lack of it that has brought us here. What could have been so wrong with diplomacy instead of the outright affront attack on the person? Hindi nga kasi maronoog limigaw eh… does know to woe …

          If only one, any one of them would back off but then who … the more probable one would be CJ Crorona, given that he is more poised and is on the chopping block BUT he won’t based on these flimsy issues in the complaint … for to do so, would only let loose the fury of hell from the administration … and then NO ONE WILL BE SPARED … absolutely no one … not you nor I, if we should ever cross their path.

        • Johnny Two III says

          December 18, 2011 at 12:17 PM

          This is now a ‘no win’ situation for CJ Corona. If his impeachment is upheld in the Senate, he will be disgraced forever in history. If he is acquitted, he will still be ineffective and the SC will never gain back the confidence of the people with him at the helm. There are more people who believe that he is guilty of at least one or two of the charges leveled against him and therefore, also think he should go. The moral and ethical benchmarks, more than the legal ones, are higher for CJ than ordinary mortals like us. Maybe, even higher than the President of the republic, the CJ and the SC being supposed to be the final arbiter in a democracy.

        • Pickers in Markham says

          December 18, 2011 at 10:04 PM

          I am not sure if an acquittal will clip his wings. If he walks, he will potentially become the most powerfull CJ in the Philippine history worthy of “Teflon Crown” moniker. I say the Senate will bear the brunt and will most likely be voted out in the next election. With a fresh crop of Senators, Pnoy will have ran out of time or options to give it another try. The judiciary is the only branch of the gov’t that is not directly accountable to the people so they can afford to be unpopular, and with the acquital that could act as a shield against “double jeopardy” cases, CJ Corona can “interpret” the law without fear of any consequences and play carrot-and-stick so others can toe the line as he hold the purse of the judiciary. If he was the lone nominee of GMA, there’s not much at stake if he stays. But he is the leader of the pack. In a country where progress is being stymied by the church, it will realy be a long while before the country can get out of the woods,

        • eye says

          December 19, 2011 at 9:54 AM

          o … diba … patay tayo diyan … where will we the people be when it is all said and done … with a authoritarian rule?

          The palace would have us, the public believe that this is about Pnoy vs GMA. With that in play, of course by a hands down decision the country will be with Pnoy … BUT in actuality, it is not so. May have started that way but has gone way beyond that with the faulty pleadings of the DOJ, one after another. (Dapat air tight pleadings with no loopholes so that the Justices would have had no recourses but to rule in their favor. Gano lang ka simple yon.)

          It is now about the in dependency of the two equal factions of the government [executive and judiciary) … exceeding on to with a very subservient Congress to be finally cupped by the Senate.

          This I ask: Can Pnoy accept an acquittal?

          Or, will he then impeach the Senate? Talks are already circulating that if Enrile fails to get the conviction, he too will loose the Senate Presidency.

          Then, if Corona is convicted, will De Lima then will be allowed to make true on her threats to impeach all of the GMA appointed Justices and replace them with Pnoy’s appointee?

          What the heck would the difference be then? Judge Mupas of Pasay RTC will be becomes a Supreme Court Justice …

        • Pickers in Markham says

          December 19, 2011 at 11:59 AM

          Eye, it’s probably a bit of a stretch but the bottomline is the same. Both conviction and acquital portends an ugly scenario. This is why the CJ should resign. If there is one thing good the church can do for the country for once this is their chance. And that is to exert their influence over him to have the courage to step down. The Philippines is probably the only country where the church does more harm than good to the people.

  6. eye says

    December 13, 2011 at 3:25 PM

    Had the DOJ and this administration done its job well, we would not have these lurking dooms upon us.

    In a fastbreak attempt to keep GMA in the country, the DOJ teamed up with the Comelec and formed yet another unconstitutional body to charged GMA in a RTC with a very colorful Judge.

    The ever so willing court that is trying CGMA is one with many skeletons in its closet … RTC Pasay Branch 112 sala of Judge Jesus Mupas has some 11 cases of which 4 are of allegations of grave misconduct, GROSS IGNORANCE OF THE LAW, violation of the Code of Judicial Conduct and violation of the Anti-Graft and Corrupt Practices Act. In 2008 Mupas was slapped with a P10,000.00 fine and given a “stern warning that a repetition of the same or similar act in the future shall be dealt with more severely” by the SC.

    His wife, also a judge in Dasmarines Cavite [Judge Lorinda B. Toledo-Mupas] was found administratively liable for gross ignorance of the law. Being that it was her fourth offense, she was meted the supreme penalty of dismissal from the service, with all the accessory penalties appurtenant.

    Now, the Congress has stepped in. A total of 188 congressmen as of this writing has reached out to save their pork barrels and signed an impeachment complaint against the Chief Justice of our Supreme Court … mind you all these just over the weekend. Isn’t another fastbreak?

  7. eye says

    December 10, 2011 at 10:06 AM

    At the high cost of bad publicity and with the hullabaloo at rest … and now, that the Supreme Court has declared the Watch List Order illegal and unconstitutional can someone please make a move and have it completely abolished from the Department of Justice … lest, some of us find ourselves on it … again.

    • raissa says

      December 10, 2011 at 12:06 PM

      The Supreme Court hasn’t. Yet.

  8. Carlos says

    December 9, 2011 at 10:31 PM

    Eto pa isang kawatan Mr. President. Paki imbestigahan lang Pnoy para talagang makulong ang lahat na kawatan…walang favoritism:

    The TRUTH about SCTEX (Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway, that runs through Hacienda Luisita) is that Hacienda Luisita or the Cojuangco’s was paid by the government P80 million for the right of way for 83 hectares of land that was made part of the expressway. The issue is also one of overpricing, because the P80 million translates to P100 paid by the government to Luisita for every square meter of land ROW, at a time when the selling price of farm land in Tarlac was only from P6 to P8 per square meter. Therefore, the Luisita land paid for by the government was overpriced by at least P92 per sq.m

    On top of the P80 million, government also used P170 million of taxpayers’ money to construct a road interchange that connected Luisita’s private road to SCTEX. Other private companies like Mamplasan, Asia Brewery, Greenfields and Southwoods paid the government so their properties would be connected to the South Luzon Expressway. These companies paid the Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC) P241 million each for the interchanges that connected their properties to SLEX. So how come it is the opposite with Luisita? Instead of Luisita paying the government for the interchange that connected Luisita’s private road to SCTEX, it was the government that paid Luisita. The overpricing has been confirmed by the Department of Agrarian Reform (DAR) during a congressional hearing.

    But it was not the government alone that got a raw deal from the SCTEX project. The poor farmers who had been toiling at Luisita for decades also got a raw deal. As the supposed owners of 32.5 percent of Luisita, the farmers should have gotten at least P25 million of the P80 million ROW payment. Instead, they were only given dividends ranging from 50 centavos to P1.

    A House committee investigation established that Noynoy used his influence as a congressman in 2004 to have the original route diverted to Luisita which at that time was largely inaccessible. In fact, Noynoy served as the proponent of the SCTEX project that directly benefited his family.

    The congressional hearings elicited the fact that Noynoy used his influence as a legislator not only to push the SCTEX project, but specifically the inter-connection of Hacienda Luisita to it, at a huge cost to the government and the taxpayers. The net effect of Noynoy’s machinations is that from its original estimate of P18.7 billion in 1999, the SCTEX project cost was adjusted to P21 billion in 2004 and, by the time it was finished, the cost had ballooned to a whopping P32.808 billion, or twice its original price.

    Noynoy made sure he was present in most meetings related to the construction of SCTEX. To show their disdain for the congressional committee investigating the SCTEX scandal, Noynoy and the Cojuangcos ordered Luisita’s security men to bar congressmen from making an ocular inspection of the Luisita road interchange. The government funded the P170-M interchange, but the representatives of the people were prevented from visiting the site.
    While all this was going on at Manila Hotel’s Roma Ristoranti, Noynoy was somewhere else in the hotel with Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim, having just come from the unveiling of his mother’s monument nearby. In fairness to him, Somebody was sent to look for him so he could reply to these accusations, but the messenger was unsuccessful.

    • raissa says

      December 10, 2011 at 7:30 AM

      Carlos, why is your post the same WORD FOR WORD as Windy’s – except for the last paragraph?

      Are you and Windy one and the same person?

      And Winy is the same as Blanche?

      Do you have a multiple personality disorder?

      Let’s just assume that PNoy did this. You made no mention here of the principal – GMA – the President who surely knew about all these since we’re talking huge amounts here. Could you complete the story, pls?

      • Johnny lin says

        December 10, 2011 at 1:10 PM

        Rehashed issue!
        Try connecting Carlos, et al to the staff of Manny Villar or his campaign manager, Remulla, in which this accusation emanated but contradicted in 2009 by Rep. Danilo Suarez, a staunch GMA ally.

    • Baltazar says

      December 12, 2011 at 2:09 PM

      In a positive point of view regarding SCTEX, the project will in time pay off for itself. I have driven via its stretch to Baguio City with my family last summer and I can’t deny the convenience and the time savings realized. And many motorists are taking this route. Back to the topic, when you are selling a piece of land, the two parties- the seller & the buyer – agree on the price for the sale to proceed. I surely agree with Raissa to put GMA’s role on the land purchase also under scrutiny. But an exhaustive write up from our prolific blogger will blow some dust on the real issue. What about this Ms. Raissa? :-)

  9. eye says

    November 25, 2011 at 10:03 AM

    We all want the very same thing and that is to put away the plunderers … corrupt government officials. In order to do that, proper procedures MUST be applied according to the RULE OF LAW. Otherwise, there is a very great possibility that none of it with will hold any water and they will all get off. Surely, none of us want that … I don’t.

    My issue here is simply that had De Lima done her job diligently, we won’t be in this dilemma. No foreign bad publicity, no bully acts, no question of law/s.

    She is not the DOJ but just a term representative of it. The DOJ has and has had it own set of guidelines way before her tenure. She should mind the manner and way she speaks.

    • Val says

      November 26, 2011 at 10:40 AM

      Watch List Order is according to the RULE OF LAW, and De Lima applied it according to the RULE OF LAW. It is clear that De Lima done her job diligently.

      • eye says

        November 29, 2011 at 8:41 AM

        WLO is not an exercise of judicial power! WLO is only a departmental code and not a law! It’s very existence is unconstitutional and is in fact one of the motions up for enbanc ruling this week, just like the DOJ/Comelec body that aspirated out of the despicable blunders of the DOJ.

        However, the HDO (Hold Departure Order) is part of our judicial due process … if and only if … a judicial court issues it, not the DOJ. It is a law and so ONLY a Judicial Court can order it.

        Department Circular 41 – is what it says, a departmental circular, nothing more nothing less, but not a law.

        The deprivation of liberty [deprivation of right to travel] must be by the authority of the courts and not by the DOJ.

        When the Supreme Court issues a TRO regardless of whether the DOJ received a copy or not, it is immediately executory and effective immediately and continuing until further orders of the same court (Supreme Court) as so stated.

        Anyone presented with a certified true copy it should follow it because it is issued by the high court of the land, otherwise we will have anarchy.

        Any lawyer knows this … or rather … should know this!

        • Pickers in Markham says

          November 29, 2011 at 10:48 AM

          Quite close. The cabinet are acting on delegated authority from a co-equal branch of the gov’t – the executive While dep’t orders are not law by itself, they are lawful orders neverthelless unless declared unconstitutional by the SC. By way of analogy, if a policeman asks for your license due to an alleged traffic infraction, his order has a force of law yet not a law by itself.

        • eye says

          November 29, 2011 at 2:19 PM

          Sec. 4. Sec 13 of Republic Act No. 6975

          “Sec. 13 Creation and composition – A National Police Commission, hereinafter referred to as the Commission, is hereby created for the purpose of effectively discharging the functions prescribed in the CONSTITUTION and provided in this Act.

          The Mission of the PNP is : TO ENFORCE THE LAW, to prevent and control crimes, to maintain peace and order, and to ensure public safety and internal security with the active support of the community.

        • Pickers in Markham says

          November 29, 2011 at 8:35 PM

          This is an “enabling act” where the main purpose was to grant legitimacy to the police UNDER the Interior and Local Govt dept (which is an extension of the executive branch). The same act specifically says that the police is a “collegial” body, which by definition means such does not wield “the”authority for policing to the exclusion of other similarly legitimized and authorized agencies of the govt. It merely shares the authority. Perhaps there may be issues on protocols but that is another story.

        • eye says

          November 30, 2011 at 9:37 AM

          Nonetheless, a law is enacted by the Legislative, executed by the Executive and judged by the Judiciary … according to our Constitution …

        • Pickers in Markham says

          December 1, 2011 at 12:13 AM

          Totally agree. Just cut P-Noy some slack if you will. I think he is good but just have a lot of stuff on his plate, and balancing acts to do. We can’t be purist from a legal stanpoint and judge him on a big picture.

        • eye says

          December 1, 2011 at 10:34 AM

          What a delight … most certainly … P-Noy may have all the slack he needs from me BUT only him and he alone.

          This is perhaps my very point exactly and I do thank you for bring it out of me … I don’t have any issues with P-Noy as I do realize his plate is quite full. And, yes he and only he may be forceful, arrogant, belligerent, and spiteful and all those other stuff … but he never is. Oh, but the people around him … begs a lot to be desired for.

          My issues are with the people around him … the people that speak for him and act in his stead. Never mind, how they look and dress but they are just so unkempt, unprofessional, antagonistic and uncouth … hostile pa.

          So much so, that I find myself threading on that very thin ice of seemingly defending GMA … which is NOT and was NEVER my intention. I want her accountable and persecuted for her every crime but NOT at the expense of our Constitution and in any errant way that could be dismissed on a technicality. RULE of LAW must always prevail.

          If only, he had someone like you, who can deal with his critics and the pressing issues of the country graciously, proficiently, courteously and calmly … then, you’d have me silent and still.

        • Pickers in Markham says

          December 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM

          Thanks, but I don’t deserve the credit as I’m out of the kitchen. You guys are. Chill up as Raissa has a good report about a glimmer of hope in the Customs.

        • eye says

          December 6, 2011 at 2:59 PM

          There … is all the slack he will get from me. In one clean swept he manage to wipe out all that I was willing to give him.

          Philippines hold on tight … for yesterday marks the sifting of the government from a democracy to an authoritarian rule.

        • constance says

          December 6, 2011 at 3:42 PM

          I agree with you Pickers in Markham Pnoy is a good. Compared to the last Pres.

        • Johnny Two III says

          December 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM

          Final and immediately executory was given a new meaning by the Supreme Court itself in a series of flip-flops. Atty. Marquez made a big ‘clarfication on this when the SC flip-flopped on the FASAP case. It has only itself to blame when such orders are requested by the affected parties for further clarification. In tgis case, Sec.. De Lima, who did not honor it immediately and did not consider it final, much less executory,

      • constance says

        December 1, 2011 at 5:50 AM

        Tumpak ka Val — she did her job diligently and a job well done at that !!! Arroyo has to face the music–ika nga. The sooner she fronts up to all the allegations of corruption and improprieties done by her administration the faster the Nation can move forward. Ang hirap ay kung ano ano ang ini-introduce na mga rason kung bakit hindi siya puwedeng kasuhan. Nakakarindi na kung wala siyang kasalanan eh di wala siyang ikakatakot. The usual response of individuals not guilty of the crime being attributed to them is to welcome the opportunity to have their day in court so as to clear their name; ang nakapagtataka eh she is putting up all the barriers para hindi matuntun ang katotohanan. Ano ba yan? If she doesn’t have a hand on the election fraud in the case of the Ampatuans, then this is her chance to vigorously defend herself in court. I’d say embrace this chance Madam Arroyo, silence your detractors with the TRUTH.

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