My exclusive interview with Sen. Bongbong Marcos
By Raïssa Robles
One remark you might hear from supporters of Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. is that we shouldn’t blame the son for the sins of the father. Even Satur Ocampo said something to this effect when he defended his decision to run alongside the dictator’s offspring in 2010.
“We are not collecting from the son,” Ocampo said to explain why he and Bongbong Marcos were on the same Senate slate and even shook hands.
Ocampo even added that “the guy was sincere to us.”
Ocampo, it seems, forgot that Bongbong Marcos had called human rights victims like himself greedy back in February 24, 1999, during the 13th year celebration of the Edsa 1 People Power. Bongbong Marcos insulted all his father’s human rights victims whom he noted were squabbling among themselves because:
Basta’t may pag-asang magkapera, nagaaway-away na sila” (As long as there’s a chance of making money, they’ll fight among themselves).
I am posting at the end in full the news item entitled – Bongbong: Apology? They only want money
In reviving his political career, Bongbong Marcos has successfully detached himself from the sins of his father.
Today I’m offering readers the proof why Filipino voters shouldn’t let him do that. Because the truth is, Sen. Bongbong Marcos colluded with his father then to hide the family’s ill-gotten wealth and he continues to this day to hide this from the Filipino people.
And the proof came from what Sen. Bongbong Marcos himself told me in a public forum held by the Foreign Correspondents Association of the Philippines (FOCAP) last year, just before the 25th anniversary of Edsa 1 People Power.
Sen. Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos seems to have trouble with his tie. Behind him to the right is businessman Lance Gokongwei – PHOTO by Raissa Robles
I wrote about this last year for my newspaper South China Morning Post. Now I’d like to share with you the answers that Sen. Bongbong Marcos gave to my questions during the FOCAP forum.
I took pictures of him, too.
First, a brief background
When Sen. Bongbong Marcos fled from Malacañang Palace with his family, their loot hidden worldwide was estimated to run from US$2 billion to up to US$10 billion. Only a fraction of that has been recovered by the Philippine government.
I intentionally use the word “loot” because no less than the Swiss Federal Supreme Court used the phrase “of criminal origin” to describe the Marcos Swiss deposits in Credit Suisse bank when it issued a ruling to award this money to the Philippine government.
Here’s how the Swiss Federal Department of Justice and Police website explained the Swiss court ruling on the Marcoses’ deposits in Credit Suisse:
The Marcos case began in 1986 when the Federal Council ordered bank accounts to be frozen. In 1990, the Swiss Federal Supreme Court approved the handover to the Philippines of bank documents relating to the Marcos family, but ruled that the actual return of assets would be conditional upon a final and absolute judgment by a Philippine court. In 1997, the Court established that the majority of the Marcos foundation assets were of criminal origin and permitted their transfer to a escrow account in Manila, even though no Philippine court ruling had yet been issued.
It is the same Credit Suisse deposits that I had asked Sen. Bongbong Marcos about last year during the FOCAP forum. I asked him whether he had a direct hand in trying to withdraw US$213 million dollars from Credit Suisse.
The forum was well attended and had as other forum speakers Supreme Court Chief Justice Renato Corona, Supreme Court administrator Midas Marquez, Cebu Pacific CEO Lance Gokongwei, Pete Troilo (executive director of the private think tank Pacific Strategies and Assessments), senior businessmen and diplomats from various embassies. 
I wrote an article on the matter last year for my newspaper SCMP but didn’t get around to writing one for my blog because it is such a complicated story. I will try to tell it now as simply as I can.
Why am I raking up an incident of 26 years ago?
It’s a legitimate question.
Here are my answers.
First, Sen. Bongbong Marcos told me during the FOCAP forum that he still intends to pursue a compromise settlement with the present government of Benigno Aquino III:
We’ve been pursuing a compromise settlement since 1986. We will continue to do so.
Second, he knows where other Marcos deposits are hidden outside the country. Why else would his Statement of Assets, Liabilities and Net Worth (SALN) and that of his mother skyrocket so much even if the family has no business empire like the Gokongwei or Sy tycoons.
Third, Sen. Bongbong Marcos and his two other siblings were named the “beneficiaries” of various foreign deposit accounts held by dummy foundations set up by their parents. Unfortunately for them, this mode of hiding the loot was discovered because they left some of the bank documents in Malacañang Palace when they fled. Others were later turned over by the Swiss Federal Court to the Philippine government.
Still, the Philippine government has no idea how many more foreign deposit accounts are still out there.
And fourth, Sen. Bongbong Marcos’ mother Imelda really wants to put another Ferdinand Marcos inside Malacañang Palace. Given all these, they seem to have the money to bankroll a presidential campaign.
Just think, in the last election, the family funded three electoral campaigns.
My Q & A with Sen. Bongbong Marcos
It was during the the FOCAP forum when Sen. Bongbong Marcos confirmed to me that he was not an innocent abroad but was as much a part of the plot to hide the loot.
Senator Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos replies to my questions during the January 2011 FOCAP prospects forum. Beside him is Supreme Court Chief Justice Renato Corona – PHOTO by Raissa Robles
I asked him about the events that occurred shortly after his family fled Manila in February 1986 and ended up exiled in Hickam Air Base, Hawaii.
What happened in Hawaii in 1986
After the Marcoses fled and the new government of President Corazon Aquino found papers in Malacañang Palace pointing to the Marcoses’ Swiss bank deposits, two men took it upon themselves to try a sting operation on the ousted dictator. They wanted to get a portion of the Swiss assets without going the complicated legal route.
The two men were then Colonel Jose “JoeAl” Almonte and Micheal Cesar de Guzman or Mike – a Filipino who had acquired a small bank in Austria called the Export-Finanzierungsbank or EFBA. Mike, according to an affidavit he executed afterward, personally knew Bongbong Marcos.
Mike had been Bongbong Marcos’ tour guide during the latter’s 1982 visit in Vienna and had proven he could deliver. Mike had personally facilitated the purchase of two expensive Austrian cars for Bongbong Marcos and his sister Irene.
retired Gen. Jose Almonte
According to President Cory Aquino’s government and to Jovito Salonga, the first chairman of the Presidential Commission on Good Government (PCGG), It was Almonte and Mike’s failed attempt to withdraw the Marcos loot which prompted the Swiss government to unilaterally freeze Marcos’ Swiss bank assets in 1986.
Sen. Bongbong Marcos, however, told me that was not the case. He said he blamed the United States government for the unilateral freeze on their Swiss deposits.
Sen. Bongbong Marcos confirmed to me during the FOCAP forum that on March 22, 1986 or weeks after the family fled Manila, Mike visited them in their quarters at Hickam Air Base. They were de facto prisoners on the island since the US government barred them from leaving Hawaii.
This is how I asked Sen. Bongbong about the events that transpired then between Mike and him. I taped my Q and & with Sen. Bongbong Marcos on a digital recorder and have transcribed them below:
RR: If I close my eyes I hear your father. The timbre of your voice is the same. And your father’s voice was a very good voice. .
Bongbong Marcos:
Well, thank you.
RR: Sen. Marcos I would appeal to you to clear the air at this point. We are again going to celebrate Edsa next month (in February 2011). So I thought I would ask you about something that has intrigued me and bothered me all these years.
I’m talking about March 22, 1986. You were in Hawaii and there was a person who visited you. His name was Michael De Guzman. He owned a small bank in Vienna. It was called the Export Finanzierungsbank. And he went to you and you gave him two separate powers of attorney from your parents to withdraw US$213 million from Credit Suisse to transfer to his Exportfinanzireungsbank.
The reason why I know is that Michael de Guzman executed an affidavit afterward. You even scribbled De Guzman a farewell note saying ‘we all feel that you are being a real friend. Since the goods won’t be in your bank for too long, please feel free to charge what handling fees you feel are appropriate.’
So De Guzman went to Switzerland and he happened to be accompanied by Gen. Almonte. But you didn’t know that because he (Almonte) was in the background.
They were going to do actually a sting operation on the Marcoses. They were going to get the money that you were supposed to put it in his (Mike’s) bank, but they were going to get it for the Philippine government, allegedly.
Anyway, De Guzman attempted to withdraw that amount using the powers of attorney he got from you. That’s what triggered Switzerland to freeze the assets held in your family’s name. At least that’s what he said in his affidavit. At least that’s what Jovito Salonga kept telling us reporters.
At this point, Sen. Bongbong Marcos said “No” that was not what triggered the freeze. I can’t give you the exact quote because it’s obscured by ambient noise on my digital recording.
RR: Okay, you’re saying no to that. Just the particular specific point that his actions were what triggered the freezing of the supposed Marcos accounts in Switzerland that was initially from the Swiss government rather than what Mike did?
Sen. Bongbong Marcos:
What happened there is the first of what has become a procession of people coming to the family saying that we have identified Marcos funds in a certain bank and we can release it if you give us a power of attorney.
There has been…the family gets one of those at least once every one month or two months where people come to us and they say – just sign this special power of attorney. We will take the special power of attorney. We will take it to the bank. And we have identified assets that belong to the Marcoses. We will then withdraw it in your favor and then we will take our handling fee.
And speaking of a handling fee these people will ask of us by Mike.
And he (Mike) did not come to see me. He came to see my parents. But he went through me because he was a close friend of, with Irwin Ver. And it was Irwin Ver who came to us and said Mike wants to come because he thinks he can help. He says he has identified an amount of money in a certain bank and he feels if he is given the necessary authority – the legal authority – he can withdraw it again in your favor and he will take his handling fee.
And so that was a general situation and it was as I said, it was the first. We still continue to receive offers of this nature. And although we have learned our lessons since then and we do not issue these special powers of attorney quite so easily anymore.
Again it is only remarkable in the fact that it was the first.
It was a precursor of what has been happening to us for the last 20 odd years. And as I said we get this constant offers of help, supposed help. And it would always take the same form: If you give us the power of attorney we would withdraw the amount for, if you give us money we need that money, we would use that money to be able to … shake the money loose from some bank.
RR: So Senator, you did have US$200 million in Credit Suisse?
Sen. Bongbong Marcos:
That’s what Mike said.
RR: Your parents gave him a power of attorney.
Sen. Bongbong Marcos:
What happened is it was not money that the family identified. It is a – let us say, Juan de la Cruz comes to us… and says we found some in the banks of London, Hong Kong, China, Switzerland, Luxembourg. Always and the amounts are mind boggling in millions of dollars.
RR: Would you confirm because I’ve seen documents that came from Malacanang that your family left behind. Some of these documents pertain to foundations. And among the beneficiaries of these foundations are all the three of you – you and your two sisters. Would you confirm that you were beneficiaries of these investment accounts?
Sen. Bongbong Marcos:
I cannot confirm because I haven’t seen or read them. We – I don’t know. I cannot – I cannot say that I know. Definitely the Swiss money were there. Or are there now. It’s for us – again this constant – that people are saying – more and more participating in that —
RR: In the next six years would you vigorously pursue a compromise settlement with the Philippine government over the Marcos assets?
Sen. Bongbong Marcos:
We’ve been pursuing a compromise settlement since 1986. We will continue to do so.
Just a note – Michael de Guzman had a different take on the story. Under oath, he told a Philippine congressional probe – the House Special Committee on Public Accountability – on July 10, 1989 that it was the young Bongbong Marcos who gave him the name Ernest Scheller as the contact inside Credit Suisse. Scheller was the senior Vice-president of Credit Suissse then.
Mike also executed an affidavit narrating his version of the events when he returned to Austria. I obtained a copy of this affidavit a long time ago.
The same amount that the Marcoses tried to have withdrawn from Credit Suisse with Mike’s help was part of the money awarded to the Philippine government by the Swiss Federal Court in 2003. By then, it had grown to US$683 million due to interest earnings.
The Marcoses are fond of saying that neither Ferdinand Marcos nor Imelda Marcos has ever been convicted of any crime.
The truth is that Ferdinand Marcos avoided any court suit by pleading ill health.
The reason why the anti-racketeering case in New York never prospered against Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos was that they successfully blocked at that time the release of documents from Swiss banks showing the money trail.
Later, the Philippine government obtained these documents and used them to build a civil forfeiture case against the Marcoses. It was Associate Justice Renato Corona who issued the landmark decision on this case where he traced the money trail from Manila to Switzerland.
I am providing below the text taken from the Swiss Federal Department of Justice and Police calling the Marcos money “of criminal origin”.
Meaning – stolen wealth from the Filipino people.
If you see Sen. Bongbong Marcos, please ask him about this.
In 1995, Sen. Bongbong Marcos tried to push a “universal settlement” with Fidel Ramos’ government that would have allowed the Marcoses to keep a fourth of the wealth “net of taxes” and all their civil forfeiture cases dropped. But the Supreme Court struck it down as unconstitutional.
Today, Congresswoman Imelda Marcos continues to tantalize the poor with the promise that once a settlement is reached with the Philippine government they would be the direct beneficiaries.
But why wait for that? If Imelda Marcos is really sincere, she would simply waive any claims to all those contested assets here and abroad in behalf of the nation’s poor. That would instantly place her forever in the nation’s heart.
Oops. Bad dream.
Here’s the text explaining the Swiss Federal Court ruling on the Marcoses’ ill-gotten loot:
Federal Office of Justice
Philippines given access to over USD 683 million
Confiscation ruling closes Marcos case
Press Release, FOJ, 05.08.2003Zurich/Bern, 5 August 2003. Satisfaction with the positive conclusion of the Marcos case was expressed by the Swiss and Phillippine authorities at a meeting in Zurich on Tuesday. Following the confiscation ruling of the Supreme Court in Manila, the Phillippines may now dispose of the Marcos assets that were deposited in a frozen account in 1998 and have since grown to approximately USD 683 million. The only matter still outstanding is the issue of assets worth USD 10 million in the names of those associated with the Marcos regime.
The Marcos case began in 1986 when the Federal Council ordered bank accounts to be frozen. In 1990, the Swiss Federal Supreme Court approved the handover to the Phillippines of bank documents relating to the Marcos family, but ruled that the actual return of assets would be conditional upon a final and absolute judgment by a Phillippine court. In 1997, the Court established that the majority of the Marcos foundation assets were of criminal origin and permitted their transfer to a escrow account in Manila, even though no Phillippine court ruling had yet been issued.
The Swiss Federal Supreme Court set two conditions for this advance transfer, however. The Phillippines had to provide an assurance that the confiscation or repayment of the assets in question would be handled through judicial proceedings that complied with the principles of the International Civil and Political Rights Pact, and the Phillippine government also had to undertake to brief the Swiss authorities regularly on the judicial confiscation and repayment proceedings, as well as on the precautions and procedures pertaining to compensation for victims of violations of human rights under the Marcos regime.
No further decision required from Swiss authorities
Once the Federal Office of Justice (at the time: the Federal Office of Police Matters) had declared the guarantee given by the Phillippines to be satisfactory and the Swiss Federal Supreme Court had dismissed appeals against the ruling, the assets could be transferred in 1998 to a escrow account with the Phillippine National Bank in Manila. Following the confiscation ruling of the Phillippine Supreme Court on 15 July 2003, which confirmed the view of the Swiss Federal Supreme Court with regard to the criminal origin of the monies seized, the Phillippine government may now dispose of the assets, worth some USD 683 million. No further decisions are due on the part of the Swiss authorities. The Phillippine parliament is currently debating legislation under which the Marcos assets would be used for land reform and to compensate the victims of human rights violations.
USD 10 million still frozen
On Tuesday, representatives of the Office of the District Attorney IV of Canton of Zurich, the Federal Office of Justice, and the Phillippine Presidential Commission on Good Government (PCGG) met in Zurich to discuss the outstanding legal assistance proceedings against others involved in the Marcos case, i.e. former ministers and other individuals. In 2000, bank documents were handed over to the Phillippines and a portion of the frozen assets (USD 5.5 million) transferred as an advance payment. The Office of the District Attorney IV for Canton of Zurich subsequently released assets worth approximately USD 30 million because the Phillippine authorities were unable to provide evidence that they were still pursuing criminal proceedings against the individuals concerned. Around USD 10 million remain frozen in Switzerland. The Phillippine judicial authorities will therefore have to issue a ruling on the confiscation of USD 15.5 million in the names of persons associated with the Marcos case.
And here’s the link to the actual release.
Here’s the story entitled:
Bongbong: What apology? They only want money
LAOAG CITY—The Marcoses, apologize?
”They don’t want an apology, they want money.”
Ilocos Norte Gov. Ferdinand Marcos Jr., son and namesake of the late dictator, yesterday took a defiant stance on being asked if his family would heed the call–made by victims of human rights abuse during his father’s rule–for an apology.
Marcos Jr. said he and his family would apologize only if they have done something wrong.
After all, he said, it had yet to be established if the so-called ”rights claimants” existed. He said that of the 10,000 victims seeking damages from his father’s estate, not more than 1,000 had filed claims.
”And the 1,000 names we know are people who have nothing to do with human rights claimants,” he declared.”I think their true colors are showing because now they are fighting,” the young Marcos added.
”Basta’t may pagasang magkapera, nagaaway-away na sila (As long as there’s a chance of making money, they’ll fight among themselves).”Some of these people who are claiming to be human rights victims have never been victims except (of) their own greed.”
Marcos Jr. described the Edsa uprising on Feb. 22-25, 1986, as ”nothing but a political power grab.”
The government commemorated on Monday the 13th anniversary of the historic revolt that toppled the dictatorship and swept Corazon ”Cory” Aquino, widow of Marcos’s political archrival, to power.
But Marcos Jr. thinks nothing has changed since he, together with the then ailing strongman and other members of his family, fled Malacañang on Feb. 25 13 years ago.”My interpretation of (the Edsa uprising) is, there was no revolution,” he said.
”A revolution is a change in social order. But the poor remain poor. Nothing has changed.”Sincerity
Marcos Jr. said President Estrada had shown sincerity in resolving the cases involving his family.
Last week, he told reporters here that the best chance to find a settlement to the dispute over his family’s alleged ill-gotten wealth was for the human rights groups, the Philippine government and the Marcoses to conduct negotiations during Mr. Estrada’s term.Settlement talks between the Marcoses and the Estrada administration had been suspended pending the resolution of a motion for reconsideration filed by the family last month with the Supreme Court.
The Marcoses asked the tribunal to reconsider its judgment on the 1993 compromise agreement they signed with then President Fidel Ramos, which calls for a 75-25 sharing in favor of the government.
Marcos Jr. said his family did not agree with the proposed 75-25 formula.He also said he did not know of the gold deposits that Sen. Juan Ponce Enrile, his father’s long-time defense minister and considered an Edsa hero, had been reported as citing.
”When (Enrile) was in Hawaii, I was there,” Marcos Jr. said.
”My father was already too ill to speak to him or make any of the arrangements that he has been talking about. I cannot imagine that my father (will issue an instruction) without me knowing it.”
Past associationRamos, head of the Constabulary during martial law, urged Filipinos on Monday to ”remember the truth” as he denounced the return to power of those unseated or forced into exile by the Edsa revolt.
He did not name names in his speech delivered at a breakfast forum, but he was obviously referring to the family of his former boss, the late strongman, and the cronies who once controlled major industries in the country.But some senators yesterday advised Ramos, another key figure of the uprising, not to forget his past membership in the dictator’s elite set.
Still others noted that his statement indicated a distancing from present leaders once associated with the dictator and who did not participate in the uprising.
Senate President Pro Tempore Blas Ople, labor minister of the late strongman, pointed out that Ramos ”was one of the Marcos right-hand men who managed to come back quicker than the others.”
Ople said Ramos ”must have forgotten that he was head of the PC-INP and vice chief of staff of the Armed Forces when martial law was declared.”He should not be maligning himself,” Ople said in an interview.
Sen. Francisco Tatad, the press secretary who read Marcos’ declaration of martial law on air in 1972, said those who managed to come back ”by virtue of the electoral process” were able to do so because of the people’s will.
”There is nothing (Ramos) can do. He used to be a crony himself,” Tatad added.
‘Nothing new’
Sen. Aquilino Pimentel, one of those imprisoned during the martial law years, said it was ”too bad that Ramos noticed the return of the Marcos cronies only now.”
”Some of them returned to power during the time of Cory, some during his own administration, and, of course, they’re back in many places now. There’s nothing new in that,” Pimentel said.
Enrile said Ramos might as well blame democracy for the return of the cronies.
”We embrace democracy, and I don’t think you can enjoin or prohibit or prevent anyone to engage in a quest for power, honor–or wealth, for that matter–unless there is a law enacted by Congress constitutionally allowing the interdiction of any person from engaging in (such) a quest,” Enrile said.
He said it was an ”accepted fact that friends or foes, after Edsa, will be allowed to engage in politics, and these include the Marcos forces.”Enrile added that with the way democracy worked, it was now ”up to the people to decide if they want these Marcos elements or allies or cronies to get back into power.”
”If they do, that’s the operation of democracy,” he said.
Sen. Ramon Magsaysay Jr. noted that Marcos ”developed a lot of political leaders” during his time, and that voters should not be blamed if they still found these leaders acceptable.
Sen. Gregorio Honasan, considered another Edsa hero, preferred to downplay Ramos’ and other comments about what took place 13 years ago.
”We should not complicate warnings issued by each administration that chooses to color Edsa other than for what it is. Edsa should not be colored by partisan politics,” he said.
Surprise
For all that, Sen. Raul Roco considers Ramos’ statement ”a very good comment.”
”It is also politically surprising because you will now see that the Edsa roots–Cory and Ramos–are now declaring a breakaway from the non-Edsa roots of Estrada,” Roco said.
”It is not party-based. But you can see that Ramos is saying that ‘All these guys we defeated are creeping back. They are the guys we were saved from by the people.”’
Sen. Sergio Osmeña III, who was ordered detained by the strongman during martial law, said that while the situation had not yet deteriorated into one where freedom and civil liberties were again under threat, ”we are now faced with the danger of seeing crony capitalism rear its ugly head again.”
‘Traitor’
The militant groups reserved their comments for Mr. Estrada.
”Acting as the laundryman of the Marcoses and their cronies, Mr. Estrada whitewashed their cases, ironed-out the recovery of their ill-gotten wealth, and brought them back to power,” Karapatan secretary general Marie Hilao-Enriquez said at a news conference.
”We cringe in disgust and anger as the Marcoses and their cronies again flaunt their wealth and power, as if the Edsa revolt never happened.”
Enriquez also said that while Marcos imposed martial law eight years after he came into power, Mr. Estrada wanted it done as early as eight months after taking over the presidency.
She cited as proof the proposed mandatory filing of statements of assets and liabilities, expanded rules on warrantless arrest, national ID system and scrapping of the minimum wage law.
Teddy Casiño, Bagong Alyansang Makabayan deputy secretary general, said the President had an ”attitude problem”–”the attitude of a budding dictator.”
”We are commemorating the 13th anniversary of the Edsa uprising by vigorously exposing and protesting the treachery of the Estrada regime against the Filipino people,” Enriquez said.
By Cristina Arzadon, PDI Northern Luzon Bureau and Cathy C. Yamsuan, with a report from Christine Herrera – Philippine Daily Inquirer, February 24, 1999
Here’s the link to the story.
Miguel says
The sad truth is that many of these “loyalists” will never change their minds and perceptions regarding the Marcoses. Keep the good fight going and we must never relent in reminding all the people about the truth and horrors of Martial Law.
raissa says
Let’s see.
So Confused says
tnx ms. raissa for your effort and bravary. May nalaman ako sa article mo though d ko maunawan some of your words especially about law . Gusto ko tlg malaman ang katutuhanan.
pls help
raissa says
I’ll try.
Sabihin mo sa kin kung ano ang hindi mo maintindihan.
Angel Dust says
Ang pinakamasakit dito sa ating bayang mahal ay they (the Marcoses, et al) are all laughing in our faces. hindi sila mahahatulan ng jail time for all these crimes against the country and/or the people of the Philippines. Instead, tingnan ninyo ha, lahat sila (Imee, Marcos Jr., Imelda) each of them are holding a government seat and they continue to kurakot sa ating mga bayan. And in the meantime, we are really not progressing as a nation when it comes to poverty and the education of our youth. Sad country that we live in. May God help us so that the tandem Santiago-Marcos does not win!
Empee says
All i can say is, ” THE MARCOS CLAN ARE BURGLAR “[email protected]
James T. Ramos says
oh well, this is just another banter of well-paid, left-leaning media people/blogger. c’mon people. Money talks, it’s all about money. Just money. Principles and goals of communist whores are for sale. Pay them good and you’re a great person.
oh so many trashy topics and ills of society.
raissa says
Is that the best YOU can do?
If you don’t like the truth of what you read you call the writer a “whore” and “left-leaning”?
Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.
Yun ang talagang T A N G A .
d.big.orange says
Obviously, James Ramos is a Marcos loyalist. And you know how Marcos brainwashed his loyalists…. Anybody who is against him is a communist. Wala kA na nagawa sa mga yan… Hopeless case. Hope millenials would read your blog though. Bongbong said he could not give what he does not have… So am just wondering why his followers keep saying the poor will benefit from Marcos money. Money that Marcos said during the debate he did not have to give. Sinungaling si bongbong and I guess people wo believe the marcoses would give back the loot are just dreaming or downright ignoramuses if not stupid.
Venice says
So true .. For all that Marcos loyalist and believers until now they kept thier eyes close and thier ears un heard and for those people knew that Marcos’s been looted all the money and still makes all the Filipino people look know nothing and couldn’t do nothing the Marcos’s just laugh at hem thier faces and spit them and sad to say the loyalist still campaigning and praising Marcoses rant corrupt , burglar family ! God give them the Marcoses rot against the Filipino people ! Wake up Filipinos don’t be defeat by once stoled all the richness of PI that should for filipino people not by the greed and still wants to continue thier evilness again n again to be elected by BOBOTANTE and Stupid loyalist !
Sound of Silence says
HIndi lahat ng bagay na ginagawa ng isang tao ay dahil sa pera. Marami ang tanging ginagawa nila ay kung ano ang tama dahil kinamumuhian nila kung ano ang mali. Kung pera lang ang tanging dahilan ng bawat bagay, anong ginagawa mo rito?
Jericho says
So James are you a whore also and a paid one (paid good as you say) because you are raising hell and high water to convince others that Marcoses are good people?
twyxted (@twyxted) says
Kailangang i-spread pa to all over. Sick and tired with the people praising this surname. Very naive people.
cha says
Hi Raissa,
Can I translate this to Tagalog also?
1dlkros says
Cha, dapat naman siguro ma translate mo ito at ipabasa mo muna kay Ms. Raissa,
Kailangan malaman ito ng mga mamayan na mamang mag ingles.
Salamat.
Mabuhay tayo
JPR says
We need the likes of raissa and her gang to be educated about being less bias and more objective and include more research in their writing so they could come up with a more sensible article. Definitely, raissa did not understand the SC ruling in 2003. Had she put more effort to read on the decision, she would not have been ignorant of judging the marcoses especially bongbong of wrongdoings
raissa says
Ikaw ang hindi nagbasa.
sigue nga, himayin mo yung ruling. Pakita mo sa Cyber Plaza Miranda kung saan ako nagkamali.
JPR says
galing daw ba sa corruption ang pera? ninakaw daw ba nila ang mga pera? ang sabi ng SC, PRESUMED ill-gotten wealth lang. hahaha after all these years, all they can come up with is a PRESUMED ill-gotten wealth ruling. siguro naman naiintindihan mo kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng PRESUMED. uulitin ko para sa bias mind and writing mo that you call profession, PRESUMED ill gotten wealth. ano basis? lahat daw ng lampas sa takdang income nila ferdinand at imelda marcos nung sila ay nanunungkulan pa sa gobyerno ay mga PRESUMED ill-gotten wealth. ahahaha raissa PRESUMED daw. liwanag di ba?
saan sa ruling ang nagsasabing ninanakaw talaga nila ang pera?
PRESUMED ill-gotten wealth!
raissa says
sigue nga – cite me the exact paragraphs where the SC said it was “presumed.” Since we are talking of something that can be proven.
JPR says
ay naku raissa. Republic Act 1379 ang basis ng decision ng judgement. Go and look for it. It is just a presumption of law. dun lang nagbase. this is not even a criminal case. it is a civil case so a preponderance of evidence lang ang kailangan. Pero ang challenge ko syo at sa mga minions mo ay tukuyin ninyo sa desisyon na yan kung sinabi nga ba talagang galing sa kaban ng bayan ang perang yan. CLUE: hindi sila nakulong sa desisyon na yan ahahaha pagtatawanan ko lang ang mga kabobohan ninyo
raissa says
why do you say it’s “just a presumption of law.” Politicians like Ferdinand Marcos – he was a congressman when RA 1379 was passed – they made the rules on how to catch corrupt politicians.
of course it’s a civil case. because marcos was dead, so the govt ran after his estate and his wife and children are heirs to his estate.
ewan ko ba JPR, maski baluktutin mo pa nang isang libong beses, TALO ANG MGA MARCOS DITO.
JPR says
it is a forfeiture case to comply with the Swiss ruling para makuha nila ang pera. … sa case na ito hindi na nagexplain si Imelda Marcos but in the profiteering racketeering case nila sa US inexplain how they have accumulated such wealth kaya nga nanalo sila e.
again, my dare still stands. saan daw galing ang perang yan? andyan ba sa pinagmamalaki mong kaisa isang desisyon na yan na nakaw sa kaban ng bayan ang forfeit nilang swiss account? o masyado ka lang assuming kasi nga bias ka
raissa says
wrong ka diyan.
yung statement mo –
sa case na ito hindi na nagexplain si Imelda Marcos
It assumes she had explained earlier. The Marcoses have NEVER EVER explained UNDER OATH how they got their wealth. Sure, they keep saying in the media how, but NEVER EVER UNDER OATH SO THAT COUNTS IDDLY SQUAT.
You said –
but in the profiteering racketeering case nila sa US inexplain how they have accumulated such wealth kaya nga nanalo sila e
Wrong ka diyan. The Marcoses never explained either in the RICO case. James Linn, the lawyer of Imelda, simply used the “I’m just a simple housewife” defense.”
Saan galing yung pera?
Nakaw na yaman. Ibalik sa bayan.
Yun lang.
Bow.
dave says
hook, line, and sinker! you nailed it, ma’am raissa! :D
raissa says
Thanks.
Kate says
I wonder why people choose to be dumb. Thank you for this article, Ma’am!
raissa says
you’re welcome.
CWL says
Double thumbs up to you Raissa
raissa says
Thanks.
Bonin says
Galing Ms. Rissa. Ayun natatameme. Kudos….
raissa says
:)
Jericho says
JPR- you answer your question, where did that huge money came from? It seems you know it well, cite specifics please not general statements.
rakista says
sa Yamashita Treasure daw, andun daw kasi sa loob ng Golden Buddha ang buto ng Family Tree na namumuna ng pera.
Mai says
I can’t believe may tao pang kagaya mo JPR dito sa mundo…saan pa ba manggagaling ang Pera? Alangan naman bumagsak galing sa langit
.they are not even born from a royal family. No matter what are your arguments, Marcos is the world’s corrupt Leader. Marcoses are Thieves!
REVS says
Mayroon daw mga tao na no matter how hard you shove the facts in front of their faces kapag gusto nila magbulag bulagan ay walang mangyayari. It’s either they have vested interest sa mga marcoses, nagkakamal sila ng pera ng panahon ni FM at ngayon ay wala na kaya galit sila or talagang mga tanga lang sila.
saxnviolins says
lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2003/jul2003/gr_152154_2003.html
Lagyan ng tatlong w sa harap.
Guess who penned it? Renato Corona. Now the decision will be used against him.
saxnviolins says
Now with regard to the RICO case (Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act), the New York Times reported on it on July 3, 1990.
One juror said:
”Just because she was married to him doesn’t make her guilty,” said the jury forewoman, Catherine Balton. ”There was no evidence. There was nothing to convince any of us that there was a case.”
Another juror, Thomas O’Rourke, said: ”It was on the wrong side of the ocean. It was a totally silly case. We are not big brothers to the people overseas.”
Even Judge John F. Keenan said recently: ”Mrs. [Cory] Aquino can enforce her own laws. I don’t want to be enforcing her laws here.”
nytimes.com/1990/07/03/nyregion/marcos-verdict-marcos-cleared-all-charges-racketeering-fraud-case.html?pagewanted=all
Tatlong w sa harap.
It was the late Jovy Salonga, as head of the PCGG, who decided to file it in the US.
Dito nakilala ang cowboy hat ni Gerry Spence, copied by Judge Hukom Bitay, Maximo Asuncion.
Bobby Baizas says
Hi Raissa,
I am enthralled by your narrative. The Marcos wealth is real. But no it is not ill-gotten. The Supreme Court of the Philippines had ruled so in its decision dismissing the case against the Marcoses.
These are facts. Why do you hate them?
Would you now also ram down our throats the “righteous governance” of the present dispensation? Bilib ka ba sa mga Aquino at sa napaka gandang pamamahala nila? Or do you offer a better alternative? Do tell us. I for one am willing to listen to your fairytale.
Btw before you respond, I am 59 years old, with seven kids and dead serious in asking you for an alternative. Now if you cannot provide one, best you leave the country’s affairs to those with time and compassion to provide lasting solutions and not just all sound and fury with no action or significance. Walk the talk. Tagal mo na palang nakausap si Marcos. And by the way you say of your meetings he actually trusted you. Your bread is better buttered now on the other side?
raissa says
My book stated facts.
Why do you hate the facts?
My alternative is – to shed light on the truth that actually happened.
You were asking me where my bread was buttered. And that’s is what is SO WRONG about Marcos loyalists. They think that just because someone writes against their idol, that that person is being PAID BY THE OTHER SIDE. It’s a Marcosian way of thinking.
I have never been paid except by the news outlets that I write for. And that is the truth. If you think I should not be paid at all for working as a professional journalist, then you are DUMB AND IDIOTIC.
that’s all.
moonie says
sobrang pihikan itong si jpr, under state of calamity yata. yong comment niya is only 5 lines. walang wala sa kalingkingan ni raissa.
july says
Cyber Plaza Miranda Bombing ni Ninoy sa Meeting de avance of Liberal?
raissa says
If that was true, Marcos would have used that against him in court. Just saying.
Alan says
JPR – tanga
Jericho says
Can you do the honor of educating her and us included? You seem to project that you understand well the SC ruling. Quit the sarcasm, if you are well intentioned, go right to the point explain it. We might learn a thing or two from you. This is an intellectual discourse and set aside personal attacks. What is the ruling all about and which specific portion makes you disagree with Raissa’s article? Don’t deviate from the issue ha. Focus on your contentions.
Lee says
This is what you called the administration’s propaganda. Dahil nakakapag sulat ka pede ka na manira?
raissa says
This is what you call a fallacy.
Dahil ayaw mo ang ibinubunyag ko sa kandidato mo, e admininistration propaganda na!
Imulat mo ang iyong mga mata.
moonie says
raissa’s blog is one of the best blog around, many propagandists are also blogging here, some are protagonists while others are antagonists, all are exchanging ideas, debunking ideas, borrowing ideas, etc. this is where all kinds of ideas are parked and looked over. there is free traffic here. come one, come all.
some comments here are hedging on satire, while others are parodies. and those that cannot hack or get the hang, nasira. the pen is mightier than the sword, and we cannot be silenced here.
we are having fun dissecting and getting to the bottom of things, and getting the truth out.
oscar hufana says
hay naku raissa kasama na ang mga alipores mo kahit iuntog nyo pa ang mga ulo nyo sa pader wala kayong magagawa kong iboboto ng mga tao si bong bong. tapos sasabihin na naman ninyo na lahat ng mga bumoto kay bongbong ay mga hilo, bobo at mga walang kwentang mga tao asi if monopoly ninyo ang kagalingan dito sa mundo…AGAIN SAAN KAU PUPULUTIN PAG NANALO SI BONG BONG MARCOS tell me in my dream hahaha…
raissa says
let’s see
oscar hufana says
yeah let’s wait at pag nanalo yan which i believed malaki ang panalo nya, mark my word ha raissa na sinabi kong mananalo sya para maliwanag hehe…ano ang gagawin ninyo na mga sukdulan to death ang panalangin ninyo na matalo sya kc the way i look at it you move mountains and earth para lang matalo sya…sobrang effort ang mga post mo para masira ang kandidatura nya tapos mawawalan lang ng silbi pag nanalo si bong bong hahaha…
TGS says
What’s important is Raissa Robles is getting these pieces of information out there for the young generations to know. Manalo or matalo si Bong Bong, ang importante nailalabas ang ganitong klaseng impormasyon.
Tsaka your comment ‘AGAIN SAAN KAU PUPULUTIN PAG NANALO SI BONG BONG MARCOS’ sounds so much like a threat. It is also like saying that writers like Raissa Robles will suffer the same fate as those who have been silenced by Ferdinand Marcos. Tsk.
raissa says
Thank you, TGS.
Jericho says
Oscar Hufana – And…? If that makes you good, so be it. This is a free country anyway. Balik ko rin yung tanong mo, ika nga tit for tat, just for the sake of making this discourse exciting – PANO KUNG NATALO, IKAW SAN KA PUPULUTIN? Ako kong Manalo si BBM, my life will go on, but the fact remains, the Marcoses raped the country and God bless us more then. Palagay ko sa iyo naman (at ito e palagay ko lang naman, wag kang mapipikon) Ikaw e pupulutin, dyan pa rin naman sa basurahan sa tabi ng kinatatayuan mo.
Renzo David says
Paano ngayon, umiiyak na amo mong si BBM kasi talo na
Alan says
No, it’s the freedom that maniacs like you enjoy to write whatever drivel you want, whether paid for in ham sandwiches or not
J1Delacroix says
This is the complete article from Benjamin Fulford:
Benjamin Fulford – October 26, 2015: Arresting Richard Armitage and forcing him to talk may be final straw to break back of Khazarian gangster rule
The story of a single individual gangster, Richard Armitage, and of his crimes over the years, provides good insight into the inner workings of the Khazarian gangster cabal. It also shows us how just arresting, or deleting, a few key individuals would be enough to change the future of this planet for the better. As his criminal history makes clear, Armitage is a key hatchet-man in Asia for the Bush/Nazionist branch of the Khazarian mob.
The information below was provided to us by CIA colleagues of Armitage as well as by Japanese government sources, members of Japanese yakuza crime syndicates and others. Armitage was given a chance, by phone and e-mail, to rebut what is written below but he refused to answer, meaning that he is not denying what we are hearing about him.
Armitage is the senior person in the group that controls Japanese puppet prime minister Shinzo Abe. The hapless Abe is terrified of being killed and will only read from scripts he is given by Armitage and his acolytes. Armitage also controls the right to create and distribute Japanese yen. The so-called Abenomics, or money printing by the Bank of Japan, is just a cover for the continued looting of this country by Armitage and his fellow gangsters. Capturing Armitage and forcing him to hand over the codes that allow for the creation and distribution of yen would cut off one of the Khazarian cabal’s Nazi faction’s most vital sources of funding. The White Dragon Society is offering a 10% reward, potentially worth billions of dollars, to any individual or group who manages to capture Armitage and force him to return to the Japanese people the money he and his fellow gangsters, like Michael Green, have stolen from them.
Golden triangle heroin dealer Armitage first came into notoriety in the secret world when he sold out the government of South Vietnam to the communist North for money. Even Henry Kissinger was unaware this was the real reason why the South Vietnamese regime collapsed so suddenly. In other words, the biggest defeat in US military history was caused by a traitor within and not by military defeat.
The next big operation that Armitage was involved in was the overthrow of Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines. The US government was unable to afford to maintain its huge military bases in the Philippines so it decided to shut them down. Marcos, who was a firm US ally, wanted to keep the bases so, Armitage and crew arranged anti-Marcos demonstrations and advised Marcos to leave the Philippines and go to Hawaii. Marcos was poisoned in Hawaii. That is how the Bush/CIA faction treats close US allies.
Armitage was also a key player behind the failed attempt to overthrow the communist Chinese government known as the Tienanmen Square incident. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of what happened at Tienanmen Square, later Armitage and Bush began to provide the Communist Chinese government army with US military secrets in exchange for money. For example, according to US military intelligence, they provided China with guidance systems for their wildly inaccurate nuclear missiles. This shows the utter and total lack of principles behind the Bush mafia and their operators like Armitage.
Armitage and crew were able to seize control of Japan’s finances through the murder of Japanese Prime Ministers. The two murdered Prime Ministers where the evidence trail is clearest are Ryutaro Hashimoto and Noboru Takeshita. These murders were part of a campaign run by Armitage to seize control of the Bank of Japan and thus of the right to issue Japanese yen, according to multiple sources including former close associates of Takeshita.
Hashimoto was killed with a poison inserted in his rectum during a hospital stay, Japanese right wing sources say. Takeshita was tortured to death in Alaska, according to multiple sources including members of the Japanese royal family.
Takeshita was hung upside-down from a helicopter, then he was stripped naked and chased through the snow by helicopters. Finally his testicles were smashed and he was killed. We have mentioned before that both Takamasa Kawase from Japanese Military Intelligence and a member of the Japanese royal family claim to have been shown a video of the murder of Takeshita. What we are claiming now is that Richard Armitage and his boss George Bush Sr. were in charge of this operation.
A person who worked as Takeshita’s “money man,” claimed he was threatened with “death by stroke” unless he handed over an attache case carrying the codes needed for issuing Japanese yen.
Armitage is but one of the key operators in the Nazionist Bush mafia. Benyamin Netanyahu is another and there are now signs he is being taken down by genuine Jews who have finally figured out Netanyahu actually works for their Nazi tormentors. Recent bizarre comments made by Netanyahu about Hitler show that somebody is forcing him to commit political hara kiri.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11951314/Benjamin-Netanyahus-claim-that-Palestinians-caused-the-Holocaust-is-a-ludicrous-distortion.html
In Canada too, Stephen Harper, a notorious Bush operative and source of deep shame for Canada, was decisively ousted from power last week. Once the purge of political operatives appointed by Harper to the Canadian police and military command structure is completed, Harper’s crimes will be prosecuted for sure. Hopefully this traitor will sing like a canary about his handlers.
New Prime Minister Justin Trudeau immediately pulled the Canadian military out of the illegal bombing campaign in Syria. He has also cancelled Canadian plans to buy the F-35 turkey from the US. Trudeau also plans to legalize marijuana.
We understand Trudeau may well be from a cabal family, notably through his Sinclair grandfather but, if so, he is from a faction that opposed the plans to start World War 3 and kill 90% of humanity.
We can only hope that under Trudeau the Canadian military and intelligence apparatus will now help their like-minded colleagues in the US finally purge the military industrial complex of genocidal mass murderers. If Trudeau really wants to make a splash, he should march the Canadian army into New York and Washington DC and remove all the gangsters like Armitage who still rule there.
There are, in any case, growing signs that the US military are well under way in their own ongoing purge of Khazarian traitors in their midst. The biggest sign of this was the unprecedented veto by President Barack Obama (on orders from the Pentagon) of the 2016 defense appropriations bill because it blocks the closing of the prison camp in Guantanamo Bay. He also vetoed it to stop payment of $600 million to Syrian “rebels” and $350 million to neo-Nazis in the Ukraine, according to Pentagon sources.
Also, while closet neo-con Defense Secretary Ashton Carter officially refused to inform the Russians of the location of ISIS (Israeli/Saudi) military facilities in Syria, the information was given to them through former US President Jimmy Carter.
General Joseph Dunford, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Pentagon, also flew to Iraq last week in an unsuccessful attempt, (including the use of US special forces to free Iraqis from ISIS), to convince the Iraqis the US military was now against ISIS. Nonetheless, the US military will not intervene against any future Russian bombing inside Iraq if it comes at the request of the Iraqi government, the sources say.
In another blow the Nazionists, Jordan has now agreed to help Russia in its campaign against ISIS, the pentagon sources say. This means Israel, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are now the only countries in the Middle East still working with the Bush Nazi faction. Turkey is in a state of internal turmoil as the Nazis struggle to keep their puppet Erdogan in power.
Inside the US, the “Saudi loving, ISIS supporting” CIA Director John Brennan got his e-mails hacked and his contacts exposed as part of the ongoing purge in Washington DC.
Clearly though, the cesspool in Washington DC is a deep one and a lot remains to be done yet. The so-called Benghazi hearing in Washington DC last week about the death of so-called Ambassador Christopher Stevens was total charade. When Washington hearings start implicating Stevens in the smuggling of nuclear weapons into Japan for use in the 311 nuclear and tsunami terror attack against that nation, then the world will pay attention.
In any case, the Washington DC power structure remains bankrupt and in a state of deep denial. Some news articles from the past week indicate this. For example, Bloomberg had an article saying the US could not care less that China was dumping its debt because “hedge funds” were now buying it.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-18/china-s-selling-tons-of-u-s-debt-americans-couldn-t-care-less-
Everybody who knows what is real in the financial world knows this is just fake accounting. In the most recent example of US fake accounts, a 72% price increase is being labelled as a 0% increase.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-23/how-us-government-covers-72-inflation
Meanwhile China has issued, in London, its first government bonds outside of Asia.
https://www.rt.com/business/319264-china-yuan-offshore-bonds-london
This means China is learning to treat the financial gangsters in Washington and New York as the pariahs they are.
The Chinese are also strengthening their ties with the US military to show they know the difference between America’s armed forces and the gangster politicians. That is why China called its naval ties with the US “best in history,”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/23/us-china-usa-defence-idUSKCN0SH04420151023
even as Chinese warships dock in Florida.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-23/three-chinese-warships-dock-florida-port
The Vatican has also joined the British and the Pentagon in strengthening its ties with China. A Vatican delegation has just returned from China where it was agreed that from now on China and the Vatican would jointly select Catholic Bishops. This means the Vatican, China, the Pentagon, the British, Iran and now Canada are joining the growing alliance against the Khazarian mafia. If we can get Armitage and his cronies out of the way, Japan will join too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3qayj8/benjamin_fulford_october_26th_2015_arresting/
raissa says
Marcos was poisoned in Hawaii???????
enigma says
I thought it was a normal reaction from you, Raissa. While pouring over the article of this presumptive Juan de la Cruz, I was aghast that this story even exists and did not merit so much noise in Washington or the USA. I always love to watch CNN and FOX NEWS which are two very exhaustive researchers and analysts of news but never heard of this news from both channels esp FOX. So much of a conspiracy theory but why poison Marcos? He’s dying of lupus anyway. What’s the point? And if my memory serves me right, when Marcos was ousted in 1986, Reagan was President and when he died in Sept 1989 of lupus, Bush will be President after Nov 1989. This news source blog of Benjamen Bulford knows more than the Mossad about Netanyahu? He better work for the Mossad because he’s way, way better in intelligence than that world famous spy agency! They badly need him. I hope this Bulford does not have a secret portfolio on the UFO and may reveal that the US is keeping one in their secret location!
july says
conspiracy Theory ng CIA ang pagtalsik kay Macoy, dahil sa Nuclear power plant sa Bataan na malapit ng matapos, noong panahon na iyon, dahil gusto rin ni Marcos magkaroon ng Nuclear power Weapon ang Pilipinas, dahil sa Banta ng China.. at Kunin ang Sabah sa Malaysia.. Pera lang ang Habol ng mga Marcos Critics.. ang habol ni MAcoy ay Supremacy in Asia.. kaya nga Tinawag Tayo noon na Tiger in Asia..
raissa says
Hello.
It was Marcos who STOPPED the BNPP from operating. Because he formed a task force to study the defects. And he never gave approval to turn it on.
I pity the country. Balu-baluktot ang reasoning me.
Jericho says
July – Whaat? That was a power plant dude! Marcos actually did not risk operating it because the experts found defects in the construction that will compromise the health and safety of those near the Nuclear Plant. Kaya yung nag circulate din na kung pina takbo lang ni Cory yung Nuclear Plant sana e wala tayong problema ngayon sa power. Kay Marcos pa lang he abandoned the plan of ever operating it because of the defects.
raissa says
True.
Jericho says
J1Delacroix – I like your imagination, man! You are a Michel Crichton in the making! Couldn’t wait for your very first conspiracy novel!
rolly says
DANILO A. LIHAYLIHAY, the REAL CRIMEBUSTER!! Walang sinanto at walang sinasanto. Ang tunay na bayani ng bayang Pilipinas. Dahil sa kanyang mga impormasyon, daan daang bilyon halaga ng mga taxes ang naibalik sa kaban ng bayan. Trillion trillion na halaga ng mga tagong yaman ng mga Marcoses ang kanyang inilahad sa PCGG subalit hindi pa napapakinabangan ng ating bansa at ang iba ay ninakaw din ng mga nakaraang administrasyon ng mga presidente. Tulungan natin sya sa kanyang misyon na maibalik sa taong bayan ang lahat ng ito. “DANILO A. LIHAYLIHAY for President!”
Jonathan Patron says
Blaming the Marcoses will not solve anything. I’m no expert in politics but i believe that the problem of this country is rooted in how we handle this so-called blessings of independence and democracy. We are people who just can’t get ourselves united.
Why?
Because we are made to be like that – fragmented. We were made to believe that we are free, deluded by this freedom to choose our own leaders and representatives and of course the right to be leaders as well when after all, we are nothing but a slice in America’s human farm. The string-pullers like it that way: they cunningly established this so-called democracy so that from time to time, we all have reasons to fight each other. Keeping us divided hence easier to control.
If we want change, if we want to move forward, we need first to stand as one and think as one.
To achieve that, we need a leader with strong convictions. A leader who does not hesitate to take radical measures to keep the flock in line. (Wait, why does it sound like farming again?)
raissa says
For me, we need an awakened citizenry who will punish leaders when they err. And follow leaders who they think are doing right by them.
We have not truly explored all the nooks and crannies of our freedom. High time we did.
Jonathan Patron says
I think everyone is wide awake… but are mostly blind… pathetically naive and easily manipulated.
The current condition of the masses is that of a mindless creature who sees the government as nothing but an insidious monster ready to devour him anytime. and no matter how much he despise that monster, there’s nothing he can do but to submit for survival purposes.
i don’t know… i may be exaggerating but just look at us now. When was the last time we can really trust the government or any government office for that matter? or did we ever have a trustworthy one?
awakening, educating, guiding, opening their eyes or whatever you call it will not work unless the system too is radically changed.
what happened when we last opened our eyes? it’s like we killed a “slimer ghost” with a shotgun and now we have much much more of them… harder to control.
raissa says
No one?
JPR says
The Supreme Court ruling on the Marcos ill-gotten wealth is not conclusive. The only basis of that ruling is the combined income of FEM and IRM, anything in excess of that income is considered by the SC as ill-gotten. It did not state that the wealth were accumulated illegally through corruption from government coffers. That ruling by the SC was issued so that the Philippines could comply to the conditions of the Swiss government to effect the transfer of those monies. After all these years, all the SC could muster is the use of logic in order to declare those wealth as ill gotten. Where is the evidence that the Marcos actually amassed wealth through illegal means, through corruption, malversation of government funds?
raissa says
Your first sentence – The Supreme Court ruling on the Marcos ill-gotten wealth is not conclusive. – speaks of a delusion that is beyond words.
That’s the entire point of the SALN Law. Not the Plunder Law. The Plunder Law was invented to cope with future Marcos copycats. Yun na lang mali na ang sentence mo.
Even if this was meant to comply with a condition of the Swiss Federal Court, the decision could have gone in favor of the Marcoses. but it did not. Despite the marcos money. Despite the Marcos-induced delays.
Naghahanap ka pa ng ebidensiya, e naiwan nga ng mga Marcos yung mga dokumentong ginawang ebidensiya ng gobyerno.
Ewan ko ba. Sometimes I feel I am arguing with delusional people.
Like you.
JPR says
so did they plunder the money? answer please
raissa says
YES
JPR says
where in that ruling that says, they plundered government coffers? where raissa? where? delusional writer
raissa says
Eto o – nilakihan ko para makit mo nang mabuti
Otherwise stated, petitioner presented enough evidence to convince us that the Marcoses had dollar deposits amounting to US $356 million representing the balance of the Swiss accounts of the five foundations, an amount way, way beyond their aggregate legitimate income of only US$304,372.43 during their incumbency as government officials.
X X X X
In the face of undeniable circumstances and the avalanche of documentary evidence against them, respondent Marcoses failed to justify the lawful nature of their acquisition of the said assets. Hence, the Swiss deposits should be considered ill-gotten wealth and forfeited in favor of the State in accordance with Section 6 of RA 1379:
JPR says
RA 1379 is a presumption of law nga e. anything in excess of your income as public officer is PRESUMED to have been unlawfully acquired. yung mismong law na pinagbasehan ng desisyon ay ganyan ang sinasabi. PRESUMPTION lang. Ngayon, pwedeng galing sa sugal, sa jueteng, racketeering, profiteering and other criminal activities kaya ka yumaman. hindi absolute na corrupt ka. ninakawan mo gobyerno. Ngayon, hindi ba’t nanalo ang mga Marcoses sa corruption case nila sa trial of the century? Hindi ba’t til now wala pang naipanalong corruption case ang gobyerno natin laban sa mga Marcoses?
The government keep on saying the Marcoses looted from its treasury. Puro ngawa lang naman. Wala pang napapatunayan
raissa says
Excuse me, JPR, yung sabi mong – “pwedeng galing sa sugal, sa jueteng, racketeering, profiteering and other criminal activities kaya ka yumaman” – those are already corrupt activities. Apublic servant is not supposed to go into those activities.
Pls examine your arguments – “Hindi ba’t til now wala pang naipanalong corruption case ang gobyerno natin laban sa mga Marcoses?”
E anong tawag mo sa Swiss Federal judgment at sa Philippine Supreme Court judgement? TALO.
In your mind, nothing has been proven. Nothing has been lost. But only in your mind. Luckily, most Filipinos don’t live in your mind.
JPR says
ahahaha qinoute mo pa ako. i said pwedeng galing sa ibang means. paano kung sinabi ko ring baka nanalo sila sa sweepstakes? quote mo rin? dont treat it like it is a fact. ang dare ko syo ang sagutin mo. galing ba sa kaban ng bayan o hindi base sa ruling? hahaha
mga kababayan, for compliance lang yang forfeiture case na yan para mapasakamay na ng gobyerno ang swiss account na yan. ilang kaso ba ang finile ng gobyernong pilipinas laban sa marcos? 900+ cases at tanging maipagmamalaki mo ay isang compliance ruling na ang suma total assumed/presumed/deemed ill-gotten wealth lang.
hindi nga bat napakarami daw nilang gold? hindi bat pumunta pa ng senate hearing si imelda para tulungan sya ng gobyerno maiexecute ang last will and testament ni apo lakay? dont know really if it is really true. but one thing is for sure, they were able to defend their wealth in the profiteering/racketeering case in the US with no less than the government of the Philippines helped by the government of US as the complainant
raissa says
too bad you weren’t the lawyer for the marcoses.
maybe you could have won the case for them.
JPR says
too bad you are losing the argument and you dont want to post my other comments… i feel bad for your readers whom you have poisoned their mind with your bias writing.
raissa says
I feel quite bad for you because yo have your eyes wide shut.
andrew lim says
@JPR
Tanga! Malaki na rin ang nabawi ng gobyerno natin! Pinipili mo lang kung ano ang gusto mo!
Magbasa ka nga ng maayos!
JPR says
how can it go in favor of the marcoses when the government is itching to have their hands on that money. they issued a ruling only in 2003 because they cannot pin the marcoses of any wrongdoing, that they indeed plundered government coffers. Hindi barya barya yan raissa. bilyong bilyong halaga tapos ang ruling ganun lang? hindi man lang mapinpoint saan ninakaw kuno ang mga pera? o come on…. delusional writer… hay naku ang media nga naman BIAS!
raissa says
hello.
magbasa ka nga muna ng Plunder Law bago mo ko awayin.
napaka-engot ng sinasabi mo.
Rene-Ipil says
Sa umpisa ay computation muna. Yung sobra ay presumed ill-gotten wealth. Kailangan ipaliwanag ng akusado. Kung uncontroverted o unexplained naging conclusive na. Kaya yung unexplained wealth ay kumpiskado dahil concluded ng SC na illegal.
oscar hufana says
parang ngayon ka lang tumama para sa akin sa sagot mo hahaha….pero ito ang tanong ko sau raissa ang dami mong sinulat na panira kay bong bong d2 sa blog mo then kong manalo si bong bong marcos sa pagka vice president ano ang gagawin ninyo kasama ang mga alipores mo…mag aaklas na naman ba katulad ng ginawa ninyo nuon or what. alam mo ba na kahit araw arawin mo pa ang pagsira kay bong bong eh marami naman ang de nagbabasa nitong mga sinulat mo na to at marami din sa mga mamayang pilipino ang de naniniwala sa mga sinusulat mo na to…
ulitin ko ha alam ko na ayaw na ayaw ninyo na manalo si bong bong sa pagka vice president ng bayang pilipinas but then kong “MANALO SYA ANO ANG GAGAWIN NINYO.”
raissa says
at kung matalo siya anong gagawin mo?
cry, cry cry?
oscar hufana says
hahaha instead na sagutin mo tanong ko ako pa ngayon ang tinatanong mo pathetic of you weeehhhh hirap mag english tagalog na lang ulit sasabihin ko. ayaw mong sagutin kc sa isip mo talagang may panalo si bong bong…baka kau at ang alipores mo ang maubos ang luha sa inyong mga mata pag nanalo si BBM kc de ninyo matanggap na talunan kau…
sasagutin ko ang tanong mo na pag natalo s BMM ano ang gagawin ko. ok in your face wala akong gagawin ano ako tanga at praning na matalo lang sya eh luluha na ako no way. i can accept defeat raissa and move on. TANONG KO ULIT SAMPU NG MGA ALIPORES MO, ANO ANG GAGAWIN NINYO PAG NANALO SI BONG BONG….SAGOOOOOOOTTTTTTT.
Alan says
oh look, all caps screaming, the preferred style of idiots
Jericho says
Oscar Hufana – DI WALA. IKAW NAMAN SAGOT NA, IKAW ANO GAGAWIN MO AT SAN KA PUPULUTIN? (pabulong… dear readers kelangan daw mukhang engot ka rin pag nakiki discourse sa mga engot para magkainitndihan tayo he he)
Sol says
???
Faris says
Awakened to choose who can punish those who err? Mali aman ata-why not awakened to choose who can lead and do best amongst? Kung ganyan lang din man lahat nlang mapaparusahan kasi lahat makasalanan- wag hypocrite at magmalinis kahit sa napakaliit na bagay at jan nagsisimula ang mali at lumalaki lang. pag ganyan eh wla naman talagang my karapat dapat magparusa kasi lahat ngkasala.
Alan says
tanga
Faris says
Shame on you. You use the word “tanga” like you own it. Cgru totoo naman. Ang tanga ang sunod sunoran sa iba at walang sariling paninindigan na makabuluhan para sa ikakaunlad ng bayan. Yan lang aman alam mo eh. Lol!
ella says
I agree with you Jonathan Patron
Rolly says
George W. Bush once stated that Iran, Iraq and North Korea, are the axis of evil. The same can be attributed as well to Marcos, who brought the country to a file of rubbles. We were ranked second (next to Japan) most progressive economy in the whole of Asia, but since Marcos, we became the sick man of Asia.
It is true that there’s no point of cying over a spilled milk. But to avoid happening it again, we have to learn the lesson. The reason we talk about Marcos, and keep talking for the next hundred thousand years so as not to forget.
Rolly says
George W. Bush once stated that Iran, Iraq and North Korea, are the axis of evil. The same can be attributed as well to Marcos (as far as the Philippines is concern), who brought the country to a file of rubbles. We were ranked second (next to Japan) most progressive economy in the whole of Asia, but since Marcos, we became the sick man of Asia.
It is true that there’s no point of cying over a spilled milk. But to avoid happening it again, we have to learn the lesson. The reason we talk about Marcos, and keep talking for the next hundred thousand years so as not to forget.
CLee says
Nay, nakakakilabot talaga…
Regel Javines says
Raissa titled her write-up as if Bongbong had confirmed her about it in detail as clear as in broad daylight–HE HADN’T. Based on Raissa’s write-up, it can be clearly understood that Bongbong was just relaying to her (Raissa) what message Bongbong had received or known in that time from someone called Mike who had tried to persuade the Marcoses about their Swiss bank account. No more no less. I understand some writers are dedicated to work for either a name or a living. Others do writing for both. However, what hasn’t been confirmed yet must not be written as if it was already confirmed, and then inserting reports and documents even if those documents and media reports are but only either conditional procedures to matters need to be proven first or the same lame write-ups–inducing or provoking whatever thoughts that can be drawn based on issues—issues that have not yet been either proven or issued court decision. This write-up is more on journalistic appreciation than hard truth. BTW, MIRIAM-BONGBONG leadership could only be the hard truth for Filipinos, including us, to see a legit CHANGE, whatever changes that may be in the future. Marcosos had changed and contributed much development to the country until today. How about us?
raissa says
Your eyes are wide shut.
As for insinuating something about my writing as a profession, out with it. Don’t just insinuate.
These matters that I wrote about are not matters that need to be proven first. The money was there. The Swiss government froze the money. The Philippine government sued. The Marcoses blocked the suit for many years. The Philippine government won and got back the money.
We are not talking about bubbles here but about actual CASH. Wake up.
Wilfredo S. Patriarca says
So, its always about the money… Not for the Pilipino people… I understand it very well…
raissa says
Nice try. When i show proof, you say it’s all abt the money. You should tell the Marcoses ehat you just wrote.
They’ve been dangling that money like forever with the Filipino people.
James T. Ramos says
You are right. It is and has always been about the money. Presumed ill-gotten wealth needs to be recovered only to be plundered by the Aquino and Cojuangco clan, as well as to be used to fund communist rebels, moro rebels, left-leaning activists, party-lists, media men, and bloggers. They are paid to create disunity so this country won’t prosper. No progress for the Philippines, only selfish gains for the Aquinos and their minions and whores, like those media people and bloggers. Money, money, money, pay them a lot because their principles and goals are for sale. They can’t even think of something for the progress of the Philippines.
raissa says
Maybe you are presuming I am paid because YOU ARE PAID and your ilk are paid to do what you do.
Troll.
If you think I am paid, why do you bother to come here? siguro naman if I am paid my credibility and reputation will be low.
but the fact that you are here simply shows you want to be heard because this is a credible blog.
LOL.
Faris says
What matters na isinulat mu ay importante. Kasi kung para sa maling paniniwala ay talaga namang big deal. Nkakatapak at nkakaimpluwenxa kayo ng tao. Ngaun anu ang tunay na ipinaglalaban mo sa pagsusulat?
Profession ito ika mo- ngaun hndi lang topiko ang dapat pag-aralan kundi ang presentaxun. Nagsisimula sa objective ng may-akda, kabuluhan at pakinabang ng lathala.kung para bgyang linaw eh xadjang magulo talaga. close minded aman kayo pareho ni jpr at raissa sa sarili nyong pananaw. Pagkatapos matukoy anuman talaga ang pinanggalingan ng pera eh anu nah? ang pagsasaliksik ay continuous. Kabcn ng bayan-my pinanggagalingan ngayon nasaan ang patunguhan?buti nga frozen pa iba kasi kung walang tunay na kabuluhan ang kararatnan eh mbuti pang amagin kaysa lipad sa hangin. Bago kayo magsalita, ngaun ang nabawing pera ng gobyerno nasaan na? Focus kayo sa past po it is our future at stake. Bawiin ang pera para kamkamin ng iba? Mgsalita pareho puro tama. My mga punto lang kayo po pareho mali. Mga ruling iniinterpret nyo word for word. Naku. May maitutulong ba panlalaglag ng tao ginagawa nyo. Kayo wag mga narcisistic at tingnan nyo ginagawa nyo. Sa talas ng mga bunganga nyo eh mas hndi kau nkakatulong but complicate. Kung hndi masunod ng tao mga kagustuhan nyo bobo at naive sa paningin nyo. Kayo ang gumising. Lahat ng tao my biases. Kung san makakaangat dun sila and this is human nature that’l never change. Kayo nlang kaya magpatakbo at magdaldal, cge nga bka maging 1st world country tayo?
It is good to know and review but interpretation of words dpends upon individual’s frame of mind and suitability of preferences. Mamatay lang kayo di nyo malilinawan ang context ng mga ruling na yan. Pareho naman kayo propaganda sa isa’t isa. Raissa at jpr. Example talaga kayo ng malinaw na mahirap mgkasundo ang pinoy. Kasi pride and superiority complex nangingiral. Kanya kanyang sources. Even affidavit 2n be doubtful. Eh xempre kung kanino bias yun dun ang punto. Binabayaran for their job eh.
What you two have to focus is who amongst is the best and not who is not rightful. That’s why my choices. I campaign nlang mga gusto nyo kasi may isip naman ang tao mapurol o matalas man kaysa nakakatapak ng tao at nakakagawa ng kaaway.
Positivity naman kasi depress na nga ang pilipinas eh dagdagan pa ng batuhan ng hndi nyo maliwanagan na pagtatalak.
D ba pwd usapan nlang ang nararapat followed by credibility to lead than sino ang wag botohin kasi ganito ganyan. Wlang malinis sa totoo lang. May mga bagay tlga na walang ibang paraan kundi mgdungis para maapreciate ang value ng malinis. Kanya kanyang motibo po sa mga may motibo mas mainam suriin alin ang pinakapakipakinabang at makabuluhan sa kasalukuyang panahon at kaganapan.
raissa says
Sa totoo lang, hindi kita maintindihan.
Pakiulit lang. ano ba talaga ang gusto mong sabhin?
one sentence lang.
Faris says
Magsaliksik at pag-usapan na lang kaya ninyo sino ang may kakayahan at mas may matinong pinaglalaban kaysa sa mag-away kung bakit hindi nararapat ang isang tao posisyon.
raissa says
oh. just wait.
Jericho says
Faris – Binasa ko yung sinulat mo imitating the voice and diction of Cheezy Escudero. Lalo ako nahilo ha ha.
Alan says
Dear Marcos loyalist,
tanga
Wilfredo S. Patriarca says
Bad word…Philippines and many Pilipinos are suffering from poverty and TANGA is your only word… I understand very well…that this word reflect to you…
Alan says
Correction. The word “tanga”, I reserve for use against Marcos loyalists, because sa totoo lang, tanga sila. At alam nilang tanga sila.
Flor says
Ttoo nmn maraming tanga at nagbubulagan lng,,..simple lng nmn ang tanong eh,,san ba galing ang kayamanan ni marcos? Bakit sobra sobra namn kadami ngbpera nila? At bakit sa iba bansa pa tinatago yung pera nila? Ang daming nahhhirap dahil sa mga corrupt na leaders,ano ba ang ggawin nila sa sobrang kayamanan? D nmn yan madala samkabilang buhay! Ang masakit life is not permanent in this world,,haharap tayo sa Dios,,at ang mga taong ganid at sakim sa kapangyarihan sa impyerno ihhulog ngbDios,,at don maranasan nila forever ang hatol ngbDios,. HAYAAN NA LNG AT IPAGPRAY MGA TAONG ALAM NILA NA HINDI NA TAMA GNWA NG MGA KUMAKANDIDATO,,YUN PA RIN ANG PPILIIN NILA,,KUNG ANO ANG PUNO YUN DIN ANG BUNGA,,OK LNG SANA KUNG ANG PUNO AY MANGGA AT ANG BUNGA AY LANSONES,,IBIG KO SABHIN KUNGBIKAW ANG ANAK NGNPUNONG YUN,,DAPAT IBIGAY AT ISULI NA YUNG MGA NAKAW,,SANA MAGISING NA TAYO,,IBA NMN ANG ILAGAY NATIN,,YUN BANG WLANG HISTORY,,NAKKSAWA NMN KASI YUNG IBA ANJAN NA CLA CLA LNG TAPOS WLA NMAN NAGWA,,HINDI NGA ACTUALLY PUMAPATAY CLA PERO PINAPATAY NILA ANG TAO SA GUTOM AT KAHIRAPAN,,EH D KRIMINAL DIN DBA.
raissa says
Welcome to Cyber Plaza Miranda, Flor.
Could I just make a suggestion?
It would be easier to read your post kung lalagyan mo ng mga vowels yung mga salita.
Thanks.
Faris says
Loyalist sa marcos tanga? Eh anu matatawag sa mga hindi loyalist na taong ang tanging kabaluktutan ng loyalist lang ang nakikita at pag-usapan kaysa mas kapakipakinabang na pagsusuri sa kasalukuyang kaganapan sa lahat ng my kagustuhang mamuno?
IMBECILE.
Problema nakafocus kayo sa iisa eh sa panahon ngaun dapat pangkalahatan. Suriin nyo nga din ang iba at tulad ng ginagawa nyo kay marcos eh hanapan ng kapintasan eh talaga namang walang karapat-dapat.
I am stating my bias but judging future leader takes not scrutiny to a single candidate but to ALL.
ALL THIS REALLY USELESS BANTER
Alan says
blah blah blah blah blah
tanga
Brandon says
Mas tanga ang mga Aquino loyalists ABNOY pa. Kulang sa pag-iisip.
Faris says
Ang sagot mu ang pinakamalinaw na kaugnay ng salitang “tanga”. Puro kayo pamimintas eh. Kung kayo ang pipintasan ay magreact ng mga bagay na nakakasaklaw!
Jericho says
Faris – Ha ha ha kasama na rin ba itong banter mo sa mga useless? Kala ko kanina ng binabasa ko si Cheezy Escudero ka, mahabang magsalita pero walang pinatutungohan bagkus nakakagulo lang.
vander says
“and contributed much development to the country until today”.
the collapse of the Phl as a system is still being felt to this day.
your display of being totaly ignorant is glaring.
you are a model of an ignoramus, rj.
educate yourself. you might still have time to catch up.
and to start with your prep on the marcos ills, here is one bonus for you…
they do what they are doing today to keep you clueless of what transpired in the yesteryears.
Raissa Ferrer says
After reading this article, i feel the same way as you, Regel Javines…I painstakingly read this roundabout article to the end hoping to find the true story behind the title, but to my dismay, I did’t see that…And, you know what? ” Pakiramdam ko, para akong nadenggoy, hahaha”…BTW, I’ not a Marcos Loyalist (I just want to get informed).
raissa says
Dead giveaway yung – BTW, I’ not a Marcos Loyalist (I just want to get informed).
Try again.
Ding dong ding dong.
Jonathan Patron says
Hahaha!
vander says
“I’ not a Marcos Loyalist”
lokohin mo ang lelong mo!
Anon says
Loyalist na kaagad kapag hindi agree sa sinulat dito? Mukha namang mataas ang pinag-aralan ng mga nandito pero nakakalungkot na naglipana ang tawagan ng “tanga”.
By d way, it was Jovito Salonga who said that plaza miranda bombing was done by Joma Sison.
raissa says
e loyalist ka naman talaga.
As for the plaza miranda bombing, wala naman akong sinabi dito tungkol doon.
so your “by d way” is irrelevant.
By the way, I have a better source for the Plaza Miranda bombing. His name is Victor Corpuz.
Anon says
You don’t even know most of the people here and you label them as loyalist, connoting that their reason are blinded.
I’m just tired of this “everything marcos is evil and aquino was a hero” thing. Look at where it took us: we have the worst airport, we’re labelled as a country of slaves and filipinas are defined in the dictionary as domestic worker.
And lastly, why would you give weight to Vic Corpuz over Jovito Salonga? Corpuz was an NPA rebel who killed many soldiers.
raissa says
Because I PERSONALLY COVERED SENATE PRESIDENT JOVITO SALONGA AT THE SENATE.
Did you?
BECAUSE PRECISELY, VICTOR CORPUZ HAD FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE.
jmt says
mam raissa maski po si victor corpuz alam niya na sila joma-sison ang utak sa plaza miranda bombing sa pakikipag-sabwatan ni ninoy.. matanong ko po kayo bakit si ninoy aquino po ay hindi ninyo sinusulat ang kanyang ginawang ka trayduran sa bansa natin at sa ginawa niyang panggugulo sa pakikipag sabwatan niya sa cpp-npa? nagtatanong lang po ako.
raissa says
basahin mo libro ko.
nandoon yon. Tungkol sa Plaza Miranda. Tungkol kay Ninoy.
I didn’t gloss about Ninoy.
Jericho says
JMT – San mo nabasa yung kay Ninoy na katrayduran? Kasi sure na sure ka na “ang kanyang ginawang katrayduran…” Instead of asking, why don’t you tell us the story then your source and references. Who knows me matutuhan kami sayo.
Liz A says
Sad state of the nation. We are fighting amongst ourselves, about issues that no one can ever fully confirm as plain, unbiased truth. We all have our prejudices, our ideals. And to resort to name calling – Tanga, engot, bobo, etc. – does not help one bit. History repeats itself, that is the sad, undeniable truth. And no one, no human, is capable of changing that. The only thing that we can do is to choose which part of history we would like to repeat or change, for that matter. But these are just words. And we,are wasting our time harping about what should be and what shouldn’t be. Shouldn’t we start thinking about what we should do instead? For a nation to change, the citizenry has to change first. It is not entirely in the hands of the government. Stop blaming people in government for everything that goes wrong. I didn’t vote for PNoy, but I gave him my support when he became president. Too bad that he turned out to be just another disappointment. But shouldn’t that be our attitude? To support whoever wins, whoever the majority has freely chosen (hopefully, don’t want a repeat of the Hello Garci incident).It’s okay for you all to express your opinions. But please, don’t be enemies. In the end, lahat tayo may iisang dugo, dugong Maharlika, dugong Pilipino. And it’s about time that we set aside our differences and seek the common good. Let each one of us vote according to our conscience and let God be the judge. That’s what’s missing in this nation now, a moral compass. We’ve forgotten that we are not alone in this fight. Let your conscience be your guide. God bless us all.
raissa says
ano yung dugong Maharlika?
Oda_Nous says
Nako, pasensya na ha? Binasa ko yung article, napabasa na din ako ng comments. Hinggil kay Joma, pakibasa nito: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Ui3eY7atndZ3FIbnk2RUVZZ2M/view?pli=1
(sana ma-view)
Resolution of the Manila City prosecutors, sila na ang nagsabi. Wala daw syang kinalaman.
raissa says
How did you find this Resolution charging Joma Sison with multiple murder for the Plaza Miranda bombing?
dzandueta says
Maybe you did find the true story behind the title, yet you refuse to believe for whatever reason — and then made an excuse?
Disappointing, albeit expected.
Alan says
“I’m not a Marcos loyalist but…” Maya maya bumubula na bunganga tapos sumisigaw ng pagmamahal sa diktador. Tanga.
Mel says
wala ka na bang sasabihin kundi tanga?
panira ka sa binabasa ko e, taga skwater ka ba?
raissa says
Hi,
there is already a “Mel” who posts here on this site regularly.
Pls use another handle. Otherwise you can’t post because it will confuse the others who have been discussing a lot with “Mel”.
If you post again as “Mel”, I’ll just delete it.
Jericho says
Raissa Ferrer- Read it again. You were looking for answers to questions in your mind that is not in the article. Look deeper, read deeper baka sakali makuha mo yung point ng article. Don’t be myopic. BTW also, nobody is accusing you of being a Marcos Loyalist so you don’t have to put a disclaimer, and even if you are, no problem, this is a free country.
oscar hufana says
i like your last line sir, How about us….ang daming ngakngak ng ngak ngak dyan sa mga ginawa ni makoy pero ang tanong ko si makoy lang ba ang sumalaula sa ating bansa…lahat ng mga sumunod sa kanya ay nanaula din sa ating bayan eh bakit parang naka pokus lang kau kay makoy abay magisip isip naman kau pag may time…dahil ba sa de kasing sikat ni makoy ang mga yon ay tinikom ninyo ang inyong mga bibig at alang ginawa para masugpo ang pananaula na yan….hooooooyyyyy mga hunyango gisinggggg……
Isko says
Excuse me po… kaya mga pong article na to is all about marcos.. gawa po kayo ng ibang article dun sa ibang tao na nagsalaula sa ating bayan
raissa says
?
Jericho says
Oscar Hufana – Wala ka talagang kupas Pre. Pero wala naman nag-iimpluwensya sayo dito na magbago ka na ng pananaw, free country tayo. Diskurso lang ito pero ang tema e parang ikaw ang laging tama ha ha. Syempre, si Makoy kasi nagumpisa lahat kaya tayo nagkaganito. Di ba bago pa sya umupo e No. 2 nga tayo sa Asya, pangalawa sa Japan. Yang Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea, Thailand mga kulelat yan. E nung bago siya umalis kasama na natin sa mga kulelat ang Vietnam, Cambodia, Myanmar. E kasi naman yung mga inutang ng gobyerno natin hindi lahat ginamit ni Marcos sa pagpapaunlad ng Pilipinas. Kalahati lang ginawa nya, gumawa ng ilang kalye, tulay, CCP, Folk Arts Theatre, PICC, Manila Film Center etc. Yung kalahati binulsa ng pamilya. O ngayon sasabihin mo magaling sya, e bat tayo kulelat na. Sabi nga Lee Kuan Yew ” Only in the Philippines could a leader like Ferdinand Marcos, who pillaged his country for over 20 years, still be considered for a national burial. Insignificant amounts of the loot have been recovered, yet his wife and children were allowed to return and engage in politics.” O si Lee Kuan Yew yan ha hindi ako. Kung hindi mo maintindihan, sabihin mo lang I-translate ko sa Tagalog. Kaya sa tanong mo, kung bakit si Marcos lang? Isipin mo na lang sagot ha.