One topic for the sacked CJ’s school lecture series
Exclusive by Raïssa Robles
I choose to celebrate today, our Independence Day, by exercising one of the most basic freedoms that we Filipinos fought so hard for with our blood, sweat and fears. Yes – fears.
There have been moments in my life as a journalist that the very act of writing has been a struggle in overcoming personal fears, such as fear of arrest, harassment or violence.
IMPORTANT UPDATE as of 6:21 p.m. of June 12: Pls see BELOW
The freedom to criticize the country’s movers and shakers is one expressly guaranteed by the Constitution.
And so today, I choose to write about another unfinished business of the Filipino people – that of ensuring that the former highest magistrate of the country will face the bar of justice to answer allegations of, among others, ill-gotten wealth.
Besides, former Chief Justice Renato Corona is working out ways for the next president to pardon him to restore all his political rights .
Earlier I had written that perhaps Corona is expecting to be given a presidential pardon by the next president. I stand corrected. A commenter named @Rolly has pointed out to me that Section 19 of Article VII of the Constitution specifically states that the president is barred from granting reprieves, commutations and pardons in cases of impeachment.
This means, therefore, that Corona stands impeached forever and will go down in history as the very first impeached official. Unless, the present Constitution is replaced or amended and he benefits from this. Still, Corona is bent on changing the way history will view him. And of dodging any prospective criminal cases.
Soon after his conviction in the impeachment trial, Corona quickly set himself up as THE champion of transparency and accountability. He announced his intention to mount a lecture series in various schools.
If he really does intend to face students, here is one thing those students can keep in mind and ask him about.
The least that we expect a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to do is to tell the truth. It is because HIS WORD IS LAW. What he says goes.
And so, when Renato Corona was on the dock being made to explain by Senator-Judge Franklin Drilon why he had so much money in the bank and this was grossly disproportional to the sum of his salaries and allowances as a government official, Corona chose to give Drilon a sarcastic answer.
Here is their exchange in the official transcription of the impeachment court. The sentences in brackets are my own translation:
THE CHIEF JUSTICE. Iyong pesos naman po, gaya po nung ipinaliwanag ko, hindi ko pa rin nireport ‘yun kasi co-mingled funds ‘yon ng hindi—sa pangangasiwa ko lang po iyon hindi naman po sa amin ‘yon.
[The pesos, as I explained earlier, I did not also report because those were co-mingled funds under my care and those were not ours.]
SEN. DRILON. Okay. Iyon po ay sa pangangasiwa mo. Ngunit hindi ba dapat iyong pera na nasa pangangasiwa mo ay dapat ireport mo rin at iyong corresponding liability ay ireport mo. Halimbawa, 34.7 million ang inyong hawak for BGEI, iyan po ay liability, ngunit iyan din po ay assets, hindi po ba ‘yun?
[OK, those were under your care. But is it not the case that the money under your care should have been reported by you (as an asset) and the same should have been reported by you as a corresponding liability? For example, the 34.7 million you held for BGEI, that is a liability but that is also an asset, isn’t it?]
THE CHIEF JUSTICE. Pardon me, Senator, pero hindi po ako accountant. [Pardon me, Senator, but I am not an accountant.]
SEN. DRILON. Okay, sige. [Alright, sure.]
THE CHIEF JUSTICE. Hindi po ako nakakaintindi nung mga asset-liability debit-credit na ‘yan. Ang naintindihan ko lang po, iyong ordinaryong pagkakaintindi ng abogado diyan, na hindi naman akin, hindi ko naman inutang, kaya hindi ko naman po kelangang ireport.[I do not understand all that (talk of) asset-liability, debit-credit. I only understand what a lawyer ordinarily understands, that because that (money) is not mine, I did not borrow that, that’s why I need not report it.]
If you listen to the exchange between Drilon and Corona, Corona’s voice was dripping with sarcasm. That was understandable. Corona had long perceived Drilon to be against him. Through his lawyers, Corona had tried to get Drilon sacked as one of the judges.
However, what is not understandable is why Corona claimed he did not understand what the words “asset-liability” and debit-credit” meant.
Because if there is one person who would have a keen understanding what these words mean, it is Corona.
Remember how English teachers test their students’ understanding of words by making them use these in a sentence? Let’s do the same with Corona. Let’s see if he had ever used these words in a sentence.
Offhand, I would say I am very sure Corona knows the terms “debit-credit” because he has used the word “debit” very well in a sentence. And the word “credit’ is the exact opposite of “debit”. He has also used the word “assets”.
Almost nine years ago on July 15, 2003, Corona penned a landmark decision [G.R. No. 152154] entitled Republic of the Philippines, petitioner, vs. Honorable Sandiganbayan (Special First Division), Ferdinand E. Marcos (Represented by his Estate/Heirs: Imelda R. Marcos, Maria Imelda [Imee] Marcos-Manotoc, Ferdinand R. Marcos, Jr. And Irene Marcos-Araneta)and Imelda Romualdez Marcos, respondents.
The decision forfeited the Marcoses’ ill-gotten loot stashed in Swiss banks in favor of the Philippine government. It’s a remarkable piece of writing that explained very complicated financial transactions in laymen’s terms. From my experience writing financial stories, one can only write such pieces in plain English after one has fully grasped the intricacies of the entire transaction.
I reviewed this landmark decision after Corona had sarcastically told Drilon he was not an accountant and therefore “hindi po ako nakakaintindi nung mga asset-liability debit-credit na ‘yan.”
I was stunned to read this paragraph from the Marcos forfeiture case that Corona had penned. In this paragraph, Corona was discussing Rayby Foundation, one of the secret Marcos foundations for stashing the loot. Corona wrote:
Rayby Foundation was established on June 22, 1973 in Vaduz with Fessler, Scheller and Ritter as members of the board of directors. Imelda issued a written mandate to Dr. Theo Bertheau to establish the foundation with a note that the foundation’s capitalization as well as the cost of establishing it be debited against the account of Trinidad Foundation. Imelda was named the first and only beneficiary of Rayby foundation. According to written information from SKA dated November 28, 1988, Imelda apparently had the intention in 1973 to transfer part of the assets of Trinidad Foundation to another foundation, thus the establishment of Rayby Foundation. However, transfer of assets never took place. On March 10, 1981, Imelda issued a written order to transfer all the assets of Rayby Foundation to Trinidad Foundation and to subsequently liquidate Rayby. On the same date, she issued a written order to the board of Trinidad to dissolve the foundation and transfer all its assets to Bank Hofmann in favor of Fides Trust Co. Under the account “Reference Dido,” Rayby was dissolved on April 6, 1981 and Trinidad was liquidated on August 3, 1981.
Did you read that?
Corona used the word “debited” correctly.
Read Corona’s sentence again:
Imelda issued a written mandate to Dr. Theo Bertheau to establish the foundation with a note that the foundation’s capitalization as well as the cost of establishing it be debited against the account of Trinidad Foundation.
He also used the word “assets” correctly four times.
So, let’s see now. Corona recently said he had no understanding of such accounting concepts. If true, who wrote this landmark decision on the Marcoses’ forfeiture case which the Supreme Court said he had penned?
If not – well, I’ll leave it to students to ask their guest lecturer Corona this question.
Please share this piece with your friends, your sons and daughters who might find themselves the audience of Corona’s lecture series.
IMPORTANT UPDATE:
One of the members of our Cyber Plaza Miranda – the growing community of readers and commenters who congregate on this site – has just made this very important observation.
We fondly call him “Judge Baycas” and he wrote the following:
TEACHER: “Use “debit” and “credit” in a sentence.”
RENATO C. CORONA:
Respondent Sarmiento denied having received the proceeds of the loan and in fact presented evidence showing that on the day petitioner claimed to have credited the subject amount, it was again debited or withdrawn by petitioner, admittedly upon the instruction of the officials from petitioner’s head office.
TEACHER: “Very good, Renato, very good!”
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Baycas’ source is Corona’s decision on G.R. No. 133710, January 13, 2004
Pls click on this link to read Corona’s decision where he correctly used the words “credited” and “debited” , which Baycas found.
Perhaps other readers can find other decisions of Corona which shows the true extent of his knowledge about accounting concepts. Pls. post them here. Thanks.
Alizarin Viridia says
second try already:
RE 138.3 on my comments and replies from Fredicule, Jorge Bernas and Leona:
My comments were NOT intended to be critical of Senator Lacson. The intention is mental self exercise at my age, to discover the nuances behind events not people, what they do at the time when their souls are put on trial. It can not be helped that among good people some are better or best.
Rizal and Philosopher Socrates (alleged to be no-read-no-write sage like Jesus of Nazareth) were men for all times or history as they fought and attacked ideas and cultures of the permanent establishment WHILE Senator Lacson is man of the season against runaway corruption. The courage of the three men can’t be the same. I was not talking of the faults of men, but thinking of the good they can do for their fellow men.
2004 Presidential election is now water salted by and gone from the sea. I had two choices then: FPJ or Lacson. I voted for Lacson. They were both good men but the need of the hour was decisive action, regardless of the need for courtesy and civility and more humane solution to corruption. The acts of heroes and martyrs are not same. Lacson must have chosen not to be a sissy martyr against corruption. There’s still plenty of time to be a hero if he wants it.
I touch fist or high five with the detailed comments of Leona; She had looked at the trees why I only sweep the forest. The case of Angelo Reyes, what he has done decades before his entombment has no iota of salience or relevance to the events surrounding the lives of Rizal, Socrates and Lacson, To focus and discuss negative times and people I am sure Angelo Reyes as hero or heel will have a place on it.
In a lighter vein, death or suicide does not really obliterate or erased wrong doings of bad men; that makes their cronies or cohorts safe from the law. It is bad lawmen and bad lawyers that keep living perpetrators safe and happy, NOT DEATH OR SUICIDE of Masterminds. The Philippines need only the tenacity of a fictional Detective Murdoch to go after those saved by suicides.
Alizarin Viridia says
The WBA decision after an investigation of the Paquiao-Bradley bout which found Pacquiao winner by a unanimous decision without restoring to Pacquiao the crown and title is worst than lutong macaw. Baka hilaw lutong macaw or panis na lutong macaw which is quite often like lutong Pilipinas ng mga politico.
OKAY lang basta tuloy ang pera sa bulsa.
Alizarin Viridia says
RE 138.3 on my comments and replies from Fredicule, Jorge Bernas and Leona:
My comments were NOT intended to be critical of Senator Lacson. The intention is mental self exercise at my age, to discover the nuances behind events not people, what they do at the time when their souls are put on trial. It can not be helped that among good people some are better or best.
Rizal and Philosopher Socrates (alleged to be no-read-no-write sage like Jesus of Nazareth) were men for all times or history as they fought and attacked ideas and cultures of the permanent establishment WHILE Senator Lacson is man of the season against runaway corruption. The courage of the three men can’t be the same. I was not talking of the faults of men, but thinking of the good they can do for their fellow men.
2004 Presidential election is now water salted by and gone from the sea. I had two choices then: FPJ or Lacson. I voted for Lacson. They were both good men but the need of the hour was decisive action, regardless of the need for courtesy and civility and more humane solution to corruption. The acts of heroes and martyrs are not same. Lacson must have chosen not to be a sissy martyr against corruption. There’s still plenty of time to be a hero if he wants it.
I touch fist or high five with the detailed comments of Leona; She had looked at the trees why I only sweep the forest. The case of Angelo Reyes, what he has done decades before his entombment has no iota of salience or relevance to the events surrounding the lives of Rizal, Socrates and Lacson, To focus and discuss negative times and people I am sure Angelo Reyes as hero or heel will have a place on it.
In a lighter vein, death or suicide does not really obliterate or erased wrong doings of bad men; that makes their cronies or cohorts safe from the law. It is bad lawmen and bad lawyers that keep living perpetrators safe and happy, NOT DEATH OR SUICIDE of Masterminds. The Philippines need only the tenacity of a fictional Detective Murdoch to go after those saved by suicides.
DaveofBacolod says
Maam Raissa, ala pa bang new article? medyo matagal na rin yung update po, excited na ako haha :)
raissa says
Sorry, Dave.
I had to attend to long-pending things to do, like a medical exam :)
DaveofBacolod says
hahaha all is good po, xempre importante pa rin yung health ninyo. Pagpasensyiahan nyo na ako, excited lang talaga, pero mas maganda if merong pasabog c Manong Johnn. Manong Johnny ala bang bago diyan? Meron bang mga scoop ngaun? haha :)
chijap says
Stay healthy!
fredicule says
Hi Raissa, Alan at sa lahat sa inyo, payong magulang o kapatid lang (I’m 58) huwag ninyong palalampasin ang hindi magpa- laboratory test every year kahit wala kayong nararamdaman. Kasi sabi mo Raissa, ‘long-pending’ iyong medical check-up mo. It happened to me already na may health problem pala ako pero hindi ko alam. Our good health is equally important as what we are writing here to keep this site alive.
And don’t rely at once to what you have been reading on the Internet about the side effects of your prescription medicines, if you have any, without consulting your doctor. Just recently, my aunt stopped her medication for blood thinning because of the drug’s side effect that she read over the internet without telling her doctor. It didn’t reach the time of her next checkup date and she succumbed to a massive stroke.
Love you all! Salamat po.
TOL says
167.2 Springwoodman says:
June 20, 2012 at 4:51 am
Do you sense the tide is turning towards more transparency? Technology has allowed our voices to be heard – and listen to the roar.
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O, baka bumanat ang mga pro-Corona jan…the “transparency advocate” kuno.
kalakala says
sorry guys, allow me na maiba muna itong topic ko. just to express MHO:
Senator Manuel “Manny” Villar said the government should already confer on Dolphy the National Artist award considering his outstanding contribution in the entertainment industry.
Dolphy endorsed Villar in the 2010 presidential elections.
Binay calls groups to nominate Dolphy.
He also asked concerned groups to act on the nomination of Dolphy immediately.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/06/21/12/govt-officials-confer-national-artist-award-dolphy-now
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are these above mentioned politicians banking /investing the present condition of the patient para bumango sila sa madla? or one of the criteria na hintayin pa maghingalo or wala na bago bigyan ng parangal ang mga deserving? bakit mga politico (politicos are gov’t officials na din… pinaganda lang ang headline) at hindi iyong gov’t agency mandated to do such job ang gagawa?
leona says
Why not give Mr. Dolphy that National Artist award? Eh, kung si Corona got the award for CJ without qualifying for it, here our man…Dolphy deserves it for sure! My partner says some are “forcing” the issue; I said no …some are just convinced he’s entitled to it.
Give it while the man is still alive…and baka, baka lang it will make him feel good! He made me laugh a hundred times in my life! Hahaha…what do you call that? not entertainment? Not Artist? HE IS ONE!
docbebot says
I think giving an award to a person who’s dying is in poor taste.
leona says
hahaha…I like to say mas poorer taste when the “KABAYO IS LONG DEAD!” hahaha.
rafael l. vidal says
Dolphy must first be recommended not by politicians like villar, binay and vilma santos, but by the National Commission for Culture and the Arts (NCCA) and the Cultutal Center of the Philippines (CCP).
The criteria set forth by the NCCA and CCP are:
– Artists who have helped build a Filipino sense of nationhood through the context and form of their works;
– Artists who have distinguished themselves by pioneering in a mode of creative expression or style, making an impact on succeeding generation of artists;
– Artists who have created a significant body of works and/or have consistently displayed excellence in the practice of their art form, enriching artistic expression or style; and
– Artists who enjoy broad acceptance through a prestigious national and/or international recognition, awards in prestigious national and/or international events, critical acclaim and/or reviews of their works, and/or respect and esteem from peers within an artistic discipline.
In August, 2009, the conferment of the Order of National Artists to 7 individuals by GMA became controversial when it was revealed that 4 of them were nominated via “President’s Prerogatives.” Napahiya tuloy sina Dir. Carlo Caparas (Visual Arts & Film), Pitoy Moreno (Fashion Design), Cecilia G. Alvarez (Theater) and Francisco Manosa (Architecture).
rafael l. vidal says
erratum – (1) Cultural Center of the Philippines, not cultutal. (2) Francisco Mañosa is already in the List of National Artists.
leona says
Dolphy made it all on those criteria. If the Commission members do not KNOW how to enjoy laughing with Dolphy, maybe they are KJs. Thousands maybe millions are entertained by DOLPHY! I’m sure even now when he’s in a critical condition he can still make people laugh, living it through up to the last rasp. FUNdolphy! Forget the “basahans TRAPOs”…recommendaitons! Make it faster as DOLPHY could be slipping fast from that award!
chijap says
Before you open your bibig, please see the government’s explanation on the Dolphy for National Artist issue:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/06/21/12/palace-won%E2%80%99t-fast-track-natl-artist-award-dolphy
leona says
that’s full of beaurocrazy! madam! I just open my mind…vs. your sarcastic replies here…be fully contented with it. You’re acting a senator-judge! Go on, this is an open field anyway for everybody! But don’t tell me how I do my comments here…just mind your own! One suggestion…go on to the others’ next comments, forget mine…
chijap says
Please Leona… if your bet accusation is that i’m a senator and judge, then mali kananaman.
If you are willing to put a comment, you should be ready to take in a comment.
The very notion that your facts are incorrect, dapat makinig lang kami?
leona says
@chijap…Just mind your comments, forget mine. But don’t tell me what and how I do my comments…you’re becoming one of the trolls here…sarcastic comments on your replies on mine. Go to the next….comments please…hehehe. Maybe you got a thorn on your neck!
chijap says
Napapawisan ka na ba?
Remember you made those comments to others so i’m just giving you a dose of your own medicine.
Like they say, mainit ba sa kusina? Leave the kitchen.
leona says
This “Kitchen” I knew beforehand is a hot and warm place with all boilers and grills constantly working to burn and cook the issues and our ideas on it!. I like the heat so I’m not leaving this Kitchen! Thanks to Ma’m Raissa! If you don’t mind my saying “my steaks here are rare”, better than yours too well done. Enjoy the dinner.
chijap says
Rare indeed. As in hilaw ang mga comments.
I find it odd you comment on others fondly but when people react to your comment (especially not to your liking) you complain.
Doesn’t that show a very inferior characteristic?
So stop whinning and buckle up. You do need to stop eating hilaw. Try something well cooked for once. It might do you some good.
Johnny lin says
Dolphy, undoubtedly is an excellent comedian. He made peope laugh who paid their tickets to be entertained. It was his profession. His means of living supporting himself and many families. I am one of his million fans and I have quoted him many times with his conviction not to enter politics, “suppose I win in the election, what happens next?”
Does he deserve to be a national artist? In my opinion, NO!
Pacquiao is good at his boxing profession.
Binay and Erap are good at their political profession including raising members of their families to become professional politician.
Maria and Juana are good are their professions, being OFWs to uplift the economic condition o ttheir families.
Pilita Corrales, Regine velasquez, APO Hiking Society, RJ are all good musical artists who entertained and inspired millions but whose fans also paid their dues to be entertained.
There was a reason why Carlo Caparas did not deserve to be named a national artist and his benefactor is now the infamous corrupt GMA.
There was a reason why Manny Villar was not elected president. There will be a reason why Binay does not deserve to be elected president likeVillar.
The people know they both don’t deserve the presidency. They could not even discern intellectually what a national artist means for the country and heritage of the people. Morality also counts along with the extraordinary distinction or achievement in arts. Dolphy does not possess those qualities.
Alizarin Viridia says
Isang katangian ng TRAPONG as pagiging SIPSIP
sa tumbong ng publiko.
Good and Okay Mr Lin sa hunos dili sa pambobola ng mga politikong
atat na atat sa boto.
duquemarino says
@kalakala
You are perfectly right on your post “….are these above mentioned politicians banking /investing the present condition of the patient para bumango sila sa madla? or one of the criteria na hintayin pa maghingalo or wala na bago bigyan ng parangal ang mga deserving? bakit mga politico (politicos are gov’t officials na din… pinaganda lang ang headline) at hindi iyong gov’t agency mandated to do such job ang gagawa?”
They should address the issue to the National Commission for the Culture and the Arts. As governed by RA 7356 the NCCA is governed by a Board of Commissioners composed of 15 members, namely : Honorables Felipe M. de Leon, Jr., Senator Edgardo Angara, Congressman Salvador Escudero III, Alberto T.Muyot, Daniel G. Corpuz, Jose Laderas Santos, Maria Serena I. Diokno, Jeremy Robert M. Barns, Antonio M. Santos, Victorino M. Manalao, Raul M. Sunico, and Emelita V. Almosara and three private representatives, namely: Alice A. Panares, Regalado T.. Jose and Joycie Dorado Alegre.
Sa kanila dapat naka-address, being an independent body.
kalakala says
“NCCA is governed by a Board of Commissioners composed of 15 members, namely : Honorables Felipe M. de Leon, Jr., Senator Edgardo Angara, Congressman Salvador Escudero, among others”……is SALVADOR ESCUDERO si chiz escudero ba?…f YES, i read somewhere na isa din sya sa mga politiko na gustong ibigay ang award as in NOW NA habang buhay pa si comedy king.
ang National Artist Award ay binibigay po every 3 years. the last one was in 2010. the king of comedy and komiks king were nominated. the comedy king did not pass the second stage of screening….and the winner goes to CAPARAS. nagkaroon ng protesta ito po yung malinaw na pulitika sa panahon ni GMA, pati National Artist Award hindi pinatawad, sa 2013 pa po talaga magkakaroon ng next awarding, nakakalungkot man pero dapat hintayin na lang natin sa tamang panahon… hindi katulad ng MGA POLITIKO who want PEOPLE’S VOTE.
duquemarino says
@kalakala
Congressman Salvador Escudero III (Agriculture Minister during the time of Marcos) is the father of Senator Chiz Escudero.
vander anievas says
maybe yes. and they are expecting dolphy’s de… anytime soon. what a grandstanding!!
TOL says
And have you seen Erap when he visited the comedy king? He wnet with Isko Moreno. What was that? Call me malicious but I think those two going there together was really full of malice than sincerity. Haaaaay
kalakala says
@duquemarino says:
Thank you for enlightening me on your post dated June 23, 2012 at 8:15 pm
@ 145.6 tol
erap bought a house & lot in manila. now, he’s a qualified residence of manila to run this coming election. from PEP.ph: Manila Vice Mayor Isko Moreno accuses Mayor Alfredo Lim of making a threat; former President Joseph Estrada sides with Isko June 25, 2012 10:42 AM
“What a grandstanding!!” posted @ 145.5 vander anievas
in MHO u r right TOL, full of malice than sincerity. this not apply to erap & isko moreno only , but to all who has the same intention… VOTE
also read somewhere that bong revilla said that his father is also qualified to be one of the national artiists…papaano ito: mag proprotesta na din ba mga politiko to make (NOT NOMINATE) AGIMAT KING national artist when the campaign for vice pres. is around the corner ?
LOL!!!
jorge bernas says
BAKIT KAILANGAN PA NI ERAP BUMILI NANG LUPA AT BAHAY SA MANILA PARA MAKATAKBONG MAYOR? MAYOR NA SIYA DATI NANG SAN JUAN, DIBA?
MAGANDA NAMAN PAMAMALAKAD NI MAYOR LIM SA MANILA? AT SI ISKO MORENO NAGPAGAMIT NAMAN, SAYANG? MGA TRAPOS NGA NAMAN?
carmen says
Puede ba yong mga politiko ay i-sentro ang kanilang isip at gawa sa kanilang tungkulin at huwag nang makisawsaw pa sa “National Artist Award”? At matuto tayong sumunod sa patakaran nang hindi paiiralin ang awa.
Tagahanga ako ni Dolphy pero hindi sapat iyon para hindi isa-alang-alang ang patakaran ng CCP at NCCA at gayahin ang ginawa ni Gloria. Mawalang galang na po. Lalabas puro “exception to the rule” tayo.
jorge bernas says
SANA MGA POLITIKO NATIN AY HUWAG NANG MAKISAWSAW AT SUMALI SA TRABAHO NANG COMMISSION PARA MAPROKLARANG NATIONAL ARTIST SI PIDOL…
HAYAAN ANG COMMISSION NA GAWIN ANG TRABAHO NILA…
TOL says
138.3 Alizarin Viridia says:
June 20, 2012 at 7:35 pm
“Heto isang tila “corny” nadinig kong kwento (urban legend?) tungkol kay J Rizal. Noong nag aaral pa siya sa Maynila, iniispatan niyang mga chicks (si Maria Clara?) taga Concordia (or Santa Isabel?) College. Pag uwi niya sa Kalamba sumasakay siya ng medio malaking bapor dumadaan sa ilog Pasig, labas ng Napindan, Tagig at tuloy sa lawa ng Laguna. Minsan nahulog sa ilog ang isang niyang tsinelas. Kaya itinapon din niya yung natitirang kabiyak. Nang tanungin siya (si Ibarra?) kung bakit niya ginawa yun, sabi niya BAKA SAKALI kung lumutang, AT MAY MAKAKUHA kompleto yung tsinelas. Papakinabangan pa.”
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I have heard this anecdote since I was a kid. I am quite surprised that just because Rizal’s reaction to the incident was unconventional, people consider it as heroic. I have nothing against Rizal, I admire him. In fact, I believe that this story is a mere urban legend because I don’t hold this against our national hero.
I don’t want to sound like Pilosopong Tasyo. But if we are going to analyze the story deeper, was the boy (he was a boy in some accounts) correct in letting go of the remaining slipper? What are the chances that the same person will find both slippers, a complete pair? Would the remaining slipper be more useful if he kept it, ready as a replacement if something happened to his other pairs? Or, with his imaginative thinking, wouldn’t he be able to find ways of using that surviving footwear…into a toy maybe?
Pardon me if I sound trivializing the story. But I think, the real moral of the story is in weighing the greater good in all our decisions. Some people aspire to be heroes by doing the unconventional. A lot of our politicians are oppositionists just for the sake of being in the opposition. They are only good in looking for what is wrong in the administration. Hence, they are primarily “anti-Pnoy” (or against anyone in the position) before they are “pro-people.” Simula pa lang, biased na agad.
rafael l. vidal says
GOOD NEWS FOR BOXING AFFICIONADOS
RingTV reported that the panel of five judges, convened by WBO President Francisco Valcarcel, found that Manny won by unanimous decision over bradley with the scores of 117-111, 117-111, 118-110, 116-112 and 115-113.
The WBO however clarified that they can’t overturn the original decision but can only order a rematch.
Leona says
From this WBO review of the fight, then there was really A SCAM that took place in the split decision! FUNBOXing talaga!
It goes to show the 3, I repeat, 3 judges were made to “create” 115-113 scoring in favor of Bradley. Too much of a coincidence in that scoring, that is what is called SLANTED scoring!
FUNslanted!
Maybe the Nevada Attorney Gen Office or the US Attorney Gen Office should conduct a criminal investigation on this scam perpetrated to the boxing fans of the world.
FUNimbestigate!
rafael l. vidal says
It was reported that the 3 original judges are in their early or late 80’s and therefore could not see clearly, or having renal problems such as adjustment of diapers, or the like.
It’s also a big possibility that since it involves millions of dollars, the mafiosi acted in bradley’s favor to avert financial dislocation by the booking office in particular and the MGM Hotel and Casino in general, which is reportedly owned by the godfather family.
A US senator has filed a resolution calling for a congressional investigation of the controversial boxing bout’s decision…
Leona says
It will not be a “can of worms” but “A DRUMMY OF MAGGOTS!” both IN and OUTSIDE by the way.
Is Nevada “owned” by the MAFIOSO?
Rematch or any next fight of MANNY should be in another venue like TEXAS! kung wala ang mafioso doon din…
Victin luz says
Mam Leona even in TEXAS marami sila dyan. Other countries like LONDON in ENGLAND, GERMANY and some African Nations the MAFIA’s have not penetrated.
We must also investigate if and how is CHAVIT SINGSON affected by the controversies. Maybe even PAQUIAO himself for transparency in BOXING in the Philippines.
Kim says
They have already had their day with the banks does not care to them, at least there was one online betting site that gave back all monies on Pacquiao.
Oh yea, at it’s height it was 4:1 $$$$$$$$$
TOL says
The WBO however clarified that they can’t overturn the original decision but can only order a rematch.
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And so? A rematch? Doesn’t that just serve the fiasco’s purpose? After all, this is what it is all about…a rematch….another earning opportunity.
WiseNNoble says
I hope Mr De Quiros will read this to clear his confusion over certain important events in the life of the Supreme Court and also that of the nation. His admiration for former CJ Puno is misplaced because the very person who wrote the dissenting opinion advocating the People’s Intitiative (2006) was Puno himself. Malacanang had expected to win, champagne was ready to pop, and Puno’s opinion was supposedly to be the majority decision. Fortunately for the country, Justice Carpio’s dissenting became the majority decision when it won by just one vote. Two months later, Puno was appointed Chief Justice by GMA.
Fast forward to 2010, toward the end of Arroyo regime as well as Puno’s term, Puno convened the JBC just so it could produce a short list of CJ nominees for GMA despite the clear constitution ban on appointment during election period. Carpio and Carpio-Morales declined the nomination. By the way, during CJ Narvasa time, 3 future CJs — Davide, Panganiban and Puno — were among the justices who voted against midnight appointment when FVR nominated Corona for the first time to be associate justice.
What changed Puno’s mind?
I think it was CPMer Den who posted some pertinent questions to Puno concerning this midnight appointment issue.
The following may help you readers to recall “history” as it happened:
From Rene Saguisag “Transparency in. Men of letters out”
June 15, 2012
“Whatever may have been TonyCarp’s shortcomings in the The Firm’s debatable storied past, in 2006, he saved the nation from the Arroyos’ wrongdoing—no mean feat—along with CJ Panganiban, and AJs Carpio-Morales, Quisumbing, Ynares-Santiago, Callejo, Austria-Martinez and Azcuna, the Magnificent Eight, who shot down the spurious People’s Initiative in Lambino v. Comelec, 505 SCRA 160 (2006).
In the 2006 orals, which lasted deep into the night, CJ Panganiban, towards the end, called Joker Arroyo and me to the rostrum, simul, unusual, and we gamely fielded questions. The Eight led by TonyCarp and Art carried the day against the Dissenting Seven. I was reminded of the US SC, with members described as nine scorpions in a bottle, vetted and voted on by the US Senate, not by a Let-Me-Call-You-Sweetheart JBC (which has incomprehensibly junked the constitutional practice in my time in the Senate of having only one member of Congress at one time). In 2010 TonyCarp was again with the people in following the Constitution and stood for having Prez-elect PNoy pick a new CJ, instead of a lameduck caretaker naming a midnight appointee, who the people shot down last month through impeachment, a national inquest more political in character than anything else. The electors shafted the unelected SC.”
Johnny lin says
Thanks for the historical facts, Sen Saguisag.
Your former classmate Alzarin is an ardent CPMer.
jocko 7874 says
Even the Lord is “late” some times….
“When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the
Lord doesn’t work that way so I stole one and asked him to forgive me.”
Forty years late…He asked me…”jocko why you not heed my 10th Commandment, and stole that bike from the Coronas”, I said, “Lord why do you ask me this 40 years later”. He replied,
“20 + years for the transfer of deed and another 20 + years for the COA makes it 40 +, so, I
was busy working overtime recording all them lies, common Jocko give me a break here this
is your Lord speaking”.
I finally replied, “Ok Lord please forgive me, for I have sinned, but please Lord, I am in
Manila now and I don’t have a load”.
pinay710 says
@jocko7874, hahahaah ang galing mo naman magbigay ng kasiyahan sa kapwa. kaya nga ba ang Pilipino sa ibang bansa hindi alintana ang hirap at sakit dahil marunong tayong mga Pinoy na magaliw sa sarili natin. salamat sa pagaaliw mo. naiibsan ang hirap ng kalooban pagnakakaabasa ng mga ganitong pamapaalis ng lungkot. salamat.
Mel says
Nice joke.
It gave a new meaning to an old adage, “Nasa diyos ang awa, nasa tao ang gawa”.
baycas says
Standoff at Scarborough: The Philippines-China Territorial Dispute
http://archive.org/details/StandoffAtScarboroughThePhilippines-chinaTerritorialDispute
Waraydoc says
I cannot be a CPMer but I’m amused reading some comments here. I go to this site Friday PM to Sunday night only, as I’m engulfed with responsibilities on other times.
I enjoy anything Waray. I attended the Borongan fiesta three years ago and I will never ever forget when I joined the “salubong”. The statue of the patron saint was transported from an island and a friend of ours happened to have a motorboat and we joined in welcoming the patron saint at midsea. From there you can also see Boy Abunda’s mansion.
Your name sounds very Mexican. That should be helpful for you being in San Antonio. They are more favorable to Mexicanos over there. From doctors to lawyers, to gardeners and fruit pickers, puro habla Mejicano.
jonas says
Very clear, Corona was making palusot again like what Farinas said.
Ella Tovara says
I wonder who would believe him???
Den says
Halip na payagang ipamahagi ni Renato Corona ang mga baluktot na paniniwala sa ating mga kabataan, sana ay balikan na lang natin ang mga aral ng ating mga bayani. Sa pagdiriwang ng ating Pambansang Bayani na si Dr Jose Rizal, nais ko sanang ibahagi sa inyo ang aking liham para sa isang mabuting kaibigan, si Pepe…
Minamahal na Pepe,
Kamusta ka na?
Ipagpaumanhin mo ang naantala kong pagbati sa iyong kaarawan. Lubha kasing naging abala ako sa mga gawain sa opisina. Ngunit huwag kang mag-alala, sapagkat hindi ako nakalilimot sa ating matagal na pagiging magkaibigan.
Napanood ko kanina sa telebisyon ang panayam sa ating mga kabataan ukol sa iyo. Datapuwa’t batid nila na ikaw ang pambansang bayani ng Pilipinas, halos lahat sila ay di makatugon nang sila ay tanungin kung bakit ka itinuturing na bayani. Tinanong din sila kung ano ang iyong nagawa para sa bayan. Muli, di sila makasagot. Lubha akong nalungkot. Ang mga nakapanayam ay di na mga paslit, kaya labis ang aking pangamba kung ano na ang kahihinatnan ng ating mga kabataan.
Naalala ko pa nung una kitang makilala. Ikinuwento ng aking guro kung paano ka tinuruan ng iyong mahal na ina na bumasa at sumulat. Sino ba ang makakalimot sa kuwento ng gamu-gamo na nangahas na lumipad malapit sa apoy ng lampara? Ang aral ng kuwentong ito ay paulit-ulit na itinanim ng aking guro sa aming mga musmos na isipan. Hindi ko rin malilimot ang unang pagkakataon na ako ay lumahok sa isang dula at iyon ay ang pagsasabuhay ng alamat ng matsing at ng pagong. Hindi ba ikaw ang may akda nito, at ito ay iyong isunulat sa isang napakamurang gulang lamang?
Lumaki akong kasa-kasama ka sa mga aklat at mga di mabilang na aralin sa paaralan. Ikaw ang huwaran ng bawat kabataan – masipag mag-aral, malikhain, magalang sa mga magulang at mga nakatatanda, mapagmahal sa mga kapatid at kaibigan, mapagtuklas at mapagmasid sa paligid at higit sa lahat may marubdob na pagmamahal sa inang bayan, isang pagmamahal na tila napantayan lamang ng iyong pagmamahal sa iyong dakilang ina. Di ko man mapantayan ang iyong mga katangian, nanatili kang pamantayan ng kung ano ang aking maaring maiambag sa bayan upang maging isang mabuting mamamayan.
Ano ba ang nangyari sa mga nakaraang panahon? Bakit kami humantong sa ganitong kalagayan na tila di ka na kilala ng ating mga kabataan? Ibat-iba man ang landas na tinatahak ng bawat isa sa amin, sa puso at damdamin nawa’y manatiling wagas ang aming pagmamahal sa bayang ginigiliw. Nagbago man ang kapaligiran, mamutawi man sa aming mga labi ang mga banyagang salita, sa aming diwa nawa’y patuloy na nag-aalab ang marubdob na pagnanasa na masilayan ang isang umaga sa ating bayan na tigib ng pag-asa, pagkakaisa, kapayapaan, katarungan at kaunlaran para sa lahat. Hindi ba’t ito ang iyong pangarap para sa ating bayan?
Hindi pa lubos ang kalayaan na iyong ipinaglaban. Hindi pa sapat ang kaunlaran, mailap pa rin ang kasaganahan para sa nakararami. Ang pakikipaglaban na sinimulan mo at iba pa nating mga bayani ay di nagtatapos sa inyong mga huling hantungan. Ang tunay na bantayog ng kagitingan ay hindi gawa sa bato o sa metal, kundi sa mga mumunting kabayanihan ng bawat isa sa amin. Bawat isa sa amin nawa ay maging bayani na tulad mo.
Pepe, ipagpatawad mo sana ang aming paglimot sa iyong mga ipinaglaban. Hindi ko alam kung paano ako makatutulong upang manumbalik ang kaalaman ng ating mga kabataan ukol sa iyo, sa iyong buhay, sa iyong mga pananaw, sa iyong mga pangarap para sa ating bayan. Ngunit umasa ka na sa abot ng aking makakaya, ipaaabot ko sa kanila kung gaano ka naging isang mabuting kaibigan para sa akin. Ikaw ang bayani ng aking kabataan, at patuloy na nagpapaalala sa akin na mahalin at itaguyod ang ating inang bayan.
Maligayang kaarawan sa iyo, kaibigan kong bayani!
pinay710 says
@den, napakamadamdamin ng iyong liham. nasaling mo ang makabayang bahagi ng puso at damdamin ko. naluluha ako sa mga ginamit mong mga salita. marahil kung ang makakabasa ng liham mo ay mga edad 50 pataas sigurado ko naantig ang kanilang mga damdamin. pero kung ang magbabasa ay ang mga kabataan ngayon ang karamihan ay sasabihin nila “CORNY”. pero para sa akin palagay ko ikaw ay taong malalim magmahal sa kapwa at sa iyong bayan. hinahangaan kita. maraming salamat.
Leona says
Pa saylo a ako sangkay @Den han imo sinurat dinhi. Diri gud ako maaram hin halarum nga Tagalog pero naintindihan ko gihapon. Pero mahusay gud ang imo kabutbut-on kan Pepe an aton pina ka primero nga bayani. Maupay ng kaadlawan kan Pepe an tong Jose P. Rizal. Damo nga salamat ha imo @Den.
raissa says
Paki-translate lang po sa Tagalog.
davide says
Patawarin mo ako kaibigan @Den sa sinulat mo dito. Hindi ko alam ang malalim na Tagalog pero naintindihan ko pa rin. Pero maganda talaga ang iyong damdamin kay Pepe na atin pinaka primero na bayani. Magandang pagka anak ni Pepe na ating Jose P. Rizal. Maraming salamat sa iyo @Den.
(this translation is very literal)
Leona says
@Davide…THANKS, that’s how I would have done it.
Yvonne says
@Raissa,
I want to learn the dialect of my parents, so please allow me to try, and @Den can tell me if I’m close enough:
“Patawarin mo ako kaibigan @Den sa iyong isinulat dito. Hindi ako alam ng malalim na Tagalog pero naiintindihan ko rin. Mabuti ang iyong pagkakilala (or pagkaunawa) kay Pepe, and ating unang bayani. Magandang kaarawan kay Pepe, si Jose P. Rizal. Maraming salamat sa iyo @Den.” – translation.
I’m not sure how close I am in the translation. The last time I visited my home province I was only 8 years old but I want to keep my knowledge of waray alive in me.
Leona says
@Yvonne…THANKS, just perfect! You still have it….
Tomas Gomez III says
@Leona, @Yvonne……happy to know of fellow Warays in CPM.
Ambot si waraydoc kun ungod nga waray ngan kun kinasingkasing an iya pag daop dinhi sa CPM. (Ewan ko si waraydoc Kung tunay na waray siya at kung isinasa-puso niya ang pag sama niya dito sa CPM.)
Tomas Gomez III says
Is Davide waray, too?. Or is he Cebuano who also speaks waray?
leona says
Si @waraydoc, it iya asaw siguro Waray, diri hiya (his wife is and not him)…@Tomas Gomez is the real Waray! Samar yun…@Davide magaling din yun sa waray2…
Ano yun, btw…, yun POOH POOH na mabaho…sabi ng isa dito…re @Johnny Lin’s report…di daw lupus or BB…but linked to renal….baka PROSTRATE ca YUN! kaya sigue travel outside …sabi “if it includes Germany” yan na yun!…
Ano sabi ni @Johnny Lin lately on this? That disease does not forgive…men mostly gets it…di ba?
davide says
@Tomas
You are right I am a cebuano by birth from Baybay, Leyte but my mom is a waray from Tacloban city. I speak 5 fluent dialect (cebuano, ilonggo, bicolano, waray and ilocano) plus 3 foreign (spanish, italian and fair arabic this does not include english) he he he
Tomas Gomez III says
Na-iira ak ha im…..na iira ako sa imo….Waray varieties of…na-i inggit ako sa iyo. Your facility with languages…Let us have many more like you, Mr. Davide….Kung may panahon pa, I’d like to learn Ilocano, too.
Greetings from San Antonio, Texas ….All the best to ya’ll.
Kim says
Galling!
waraydoc says
My response was misplaced at 140.1. Sorry, iPhone incompetence.
Alizarin Viridia says
Heto isang tila “corny” nadinig kong kwento (urban legend?) tungkol kay J Rizal. Noong nag aaral pa siya sa Maynila, iniispatan niyang mga chicks (si Maria Clara?) taga Concordia (or Santa Isabel?) College. Pag uwi niya sa Kalamba sumasakay siya ng medio malaking bapor dumadaan sa ilog Pasig, labas ng Napindan, Tagig at tuloy sa lawa ng Laguna. Minsan nahulog sa ilog ang isang niyang tsinelas. Kaya itinapon din niya yung natitirang kabiyak. Nang tanungin siya (si Ibarra?) kung bakit niya ginawa yun, sabi niya BAKA SAKALI kung lumutang, AT MAY MAKAKUHA kompleto yung tsinelas. Papakinabangan pa.
A lawyer who is fit to be Chief Justice of the Supreme Court should be like Jose Rizal who demonstrated he is above humanity yet he is NOT ABOVE THE LAW. HOW COME?
Jose Rizal (like Jose Abad Santos?) was above every one else to give his life for his country. He demonstrated he was not above the law when he refused the offer of freedom by escaping and instead accepted his fate; so was Socrates who refused to escape aided by a military General whose life Socrates saved when they were fighting battles for Athens.
Socrates rationalized his refusal to escape by saying he is not guilty of the charges against him especially that of poisoning the minds of the youth of Athens, but he would not want to show the Athenians disrespect for the law. So he drank the hemlock after requesting his young wife to leave so she and their infant child will not see his horrible death.
In our time, Senator Lacson could claim he is wiser and have more guts than Rizal or Socrates because he escaped and have not allowed himself to be a victim of the LAW. There’s FAULTY logic there as some of our politicians and lawyers MIGHT HAVE MISSED, which CPMers hopefully will not. What is it then?
fredicule says
@alizarin;
Your question is very interesting and very hard to find the right answer but just to give you another side to look at, let me borrow a line from the poem Invictus, ” I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul”.
From here, I think every individual has the right to do what is right for him even to the extent of evading the LAW(for a period of time because Sen. Lacson, as per your example, eventually came back and faced the law after Gloria was gone). I can cite some parallelism with the Old Testament wherein God provided a city of refuge for those who have broken the law (Deut. 19, Num.35, Joshua 20) provided they stay there until the high priest dies, one can return to his homeland. Jesus also fled from the people who wanted to stone him which was the LAW at that time.
Alizarin Viridia says
The question REALLY IS NO BIG DEAL. Rizal and Socrates under proper courts were both convicted as charge and sentenced to die. Lacson was not even tried when he disappeared. Rizal and Socrates had proven even at the cost of their lives THEY WERE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. If the three were lawyers, Rizal and Socrates will be best choices for the position of Chief Justice.
jorge bernas says
@ Alizarin,
Before that was also my perseption/comment regarding sen. Lacson’s evading arrest & our Laws but then l realized that he maybe right because during those time how could you get a Fair & just treatment if those who should render fair judgement are the people who violated it headed by the convicted thief justice nato corona who was also the TUTA of the fake president plus most of those corrupt justices of the supreme court.
Midas Marquez should resign of his post coz he don’t. deserve a minutes longer to be there.
fredicule says
@alizarin:
Using Sen. Lacson as an example is a bit murky. Yes, he was never tried but eventually, while still in hiding, in Feb. 3, 2011, the Court of Appeals withdrew the murder charges against him. Now, are we going to judge him under the LAW in its entirety (when the case was finished) or partially (when the arrest warrant was still in force notwithstanding that the case will eventually be dismissed)?
And I think we also have to ‘wisdomize’ the kind of LAW that we are upholding. To cite the law that Gloria Arroyo used against Sen. Lacson is tantamount to giving legitimacy to her rule in my opinion. I do not mean any offense to you.
Leona says
Allow me to add, if it is worth it. Socrates also said: I consider it that I owe a lot to my country, like a father and mother to me. For me to escape death is not what was taught to me by them. I have to follow that law and the verdict of death.
While Rizal, as I read across, said also: The military tribunal has no jurisdiction over me as I am not a military man (just like Sen. Ninoy Aquino’s objection to his military tribunal jurisdiction). But Rizal’s objection was disregarded like Sen. Ninoy’s. He was convicted and sentenced to death too.
The original question is, as said, very hard or difficult to answer. Probably no one can give a satisfactory acceptable answer. If “jurisdiction” over Rizal’s case was illegal under Spanish law, was his conviction also legal and valid? It seems not. In Socrates’ case, it was the law and jurisdiction was acquired over him. For him, it was a personal decision to make. He could be right on it.
In the case of Sen. Lacson, the same queition becomes a bit much bigger and difficult to answer. Was he right to escape from the law? From the warrant of arrest? Was he being prosecuted or persecuted, thus he decided that it was the latter, so he run and hid. Also like Socrates’ decision, a personal one. He could be right on it.
But what about Angelo Reyes’ case? He was not charged nor criminally investigated, nor facing a court case for his acts. Yet he “took his own life” by shooting himself. He did not run away but ended his own life. He was not made to drink the hemlock nor was he placed before a firing squad like Rizal. Did Angelo Reyes do the right act of shooting himself to death? It seems it was also a personal decision for him and he could have been correct on it.
Maybe Reyes did not want to “rat” on the other rats! So he brought whatever he knew to his grave. He could have helped the country if he ratted then, but no, he preferred to end it all. Sen. Lacson fought it out when he came back, on the law. He wants to help and continue the good fight he has in his mind and body.
Rizal and Socrates just submitted to the judgment, to die, the former for his love for his country and the latter for the sake of truth and the law.
1. Who death then was glorious? Reyes’? Rizal’s? Or Socrates’?
2. How about Sen. Lacson’s coming back to face his persecutors? Is it glorious or honorable?
On No. 1, I agree (correctly or wrongly) Reyes’ was a great one act! Rizal and Socrates’ was an honorable ones! On No. 2, Sen. Lacson’s was a justifiable one! I don’t know if glorious or honorable. What say you?
vander anievas says
@leona,
with all due respect, my opinion here is, reyes missed one great opportunity. he could have died a hero. how? by exposing what he knew of those involved in the GMA-led plunder. he chose to die silently..
jorge bernas says
@ vander,
Tama ka, former energy secretary angelo reyes could die a HERO if he choose to tell the truth & nothing but the TRUTH about the fast administration’s anomally but he keep it to himself so he died a coward for not telling the TRUTH….
Dahil hindi niya sinabi ang katutuhanan anomalya noon ay naging obtruction of justice ang labas niya. naga tago nang katutuhanan… NAGPAKA DUWAG…
chijap says
I third this argument.
Angie did the easy way out. Not the way to help the nation, but to help get his family out of the hot seat.
chijap says
Please do not compare the sacrifice of Rizal, dying in front of a hit squad for his country.
With that of Angie who took his own life to get out of his dilemma of not spilling the beans on GMA and saving his family..
Malayong malayo.
Death is not the reason to honor a person. It is what the person did before his/her death that we remember the dead.
Rolly says
Den for Public Office…Presidente, sa susuoid.
Rolly says
Den for Public Office…Presidente, sa susunod.
angie says
@Den,
napakamadamdamin ng pagkasalaysay mo ng iyong saloobin. may kirot sa aking dibdib habang binabasa ang bawat kataga… kahanga-hanga.
nawa’y magtulong-tulong ang bawat mamamayan ng komunidada na ito upang muling maipamulat sa kabataan kung sino nga ba si Pepe…
vander anievas says
@den,
natutuwa ako sa pagkilala mo sa ating pambansang bayaning si Pepe. siya rin ang aking idolo at modelo. nung college pa ako, ang subject na iyan ang nagbigay sa akin ng pinakamataas na marka. labis kong hinangaan ang kanyang marubdob na pagmamahal sa bansa at angking talino.
kung ang lahat sana ng mga pilipino ay makakakuha nang kahit gapatak lang ng kanyang patriotism, wala siguro tayong mga pinunong bulok. sapagka’t si Pepe ang naglabas noong kapanahunan niya ng mga kabulukan sa pamamahala at pananampalataya.
arlon says
Next CJ should be iconic, according to Maritess Vitug.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/06/19/12/next-cj-should-be-iconic
Who could be more “iconic’ than Rene Saguisag. They should waive the age requirement.
arlon says
This comment is not getting thru.
Leona says
Maybe JBC should, as a new rule, study and recommend RTC judges from each Region throughout the country, one each of the best, to be nominees for posts in the SC and CJ. I do not agree that automatic for 5 senior justices of the SC is the rule. One each also for CA and Sandiganbayan and other judicial or semi-judicial agencies. A wider field for choice making to the president.. Being career judges, they have what is needed!
FUNjudge!
rafael l. vidal says
How I wish the JBC will revoke its ruling allowing television coverage of interviews among nominees who accepted the nomination.
there are numerous nominees and most of them will just grandstand for election purposes, like de Lima who is eyeing a senate seat and chiz escudero who is up for reelection next year.
The proposal came from chiz and nobody opposed him because of his clout in the senate.
BAKA NAMAN MABABOY ANG JBC
Leona says
@Rafael I. Vidal, maybe it is also good so the public can see who are the “grandstanders” among the nominees fit to be disregarded and dismissed from the interviews! FUNstanding!
We can shout BOOs outside! FUNBOOS!
AngLagay says
@Rafael
Well… matagal ng nababoy ang JBC! Remember the “MIDNIGHT APPOINTMENT” of renato? Bukod kay pandak, JBC at saka 8 mafia gang sa Supreme Court ay nagkaisang ilagay na CJ si renato “PALUSOT.”
Kong hindi sila samasamang nagkaisa na baluktutin ang Constitution tungkol sa midnight appointment, hindi na sana nagkaroon ng impeachment. Extrang gastos ito sa bulsa ng pobreng si Juan dela Cruz. Dapat sana palitan ang original member ng JBC, na nag-recomended kay renato!
jorge bernas says
@ rafael,
“BAKA NAMAN MABABOY ANG JBC”, Baka ang ibig mong sabihin ay maulit na naman ang pambababoy nang taga JBC kasi sa nakikita ko sa mga nangyayari noon ay maliwanag na may pamba BABOY dahil ni wala silang ginawa tungkol sa sulat nang namayapang si jose maria basa at ni hindi nila nakita na ang totoong dahilan na gusto ni Pandak makapag appoint nang chief justice ay para sa PANSARILING PAKINABANG. sa totoo lang karamihan sa JBC ay mga TUTA at nagpakaTUTA…
KAYA DAPAT NA MAKITA NATIN LIVE ANG SELECTION PROCESS / INTERVIEW PARA MAKITA KONG SINO ANG TUTA AT nambaBABOY?
rafael l. vidal says
I SUBMIT TO YOUR WISDOM, MGA KA FAMILYA…
vander anievas says
@rafael,
ang opinyon ko nga, hwag nang bigyan ng responsibilidad ang JBC. sa aking palagay, matagal na nilang binaboy ang pagluluklok ng CJ.
leona says
Tama ka @Vander…! specially the chairman OVERDUE na! FUNdue! He’s like those Nevada judges…CANNOT SEE ANYMORE what’s he recommending! BABOY PALA!..,.funBOY!
jorge bernas says
@ vander,
Tama ka, Dapat nga noon pa ay nagresign na mga miyembro nang JBC dahil nagpakaTUTA sila noon lalo nang magrecomend sila para maappoint si convicted thief justice nato corona sa supreme court.
Akala ko pa naman ang JBC ay para sa kabutihan nang Taong Bayan pero ang nangyayari ay umaayon sa corrupt na pamahalaan noong nakaraan administrasyon.
Palagay ko noon ay nagkabayaran o Nagbabayad nang UTANG na LOOB…
chijap says
Ano yang proposal mo? Voting for a Senator?
Also doesn’t this statement of yours:
Directly negates your earlier belief:
What logic do you have that the five senior members should be disqualified when they are also judges themselves?
arlon says
Raissa’s wish list came true. Saguisag was nominated as CJ.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/06/19/12/saguisag-nominated-cj-gibo-declines