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When I learned that you copied from others without attribution

 

Not once,

 

Not twice,

 

But thrice.

 

All I could think of was this

 

senator

 

Of course, as my hubby Alan later told me –

You can very well say – IT’S NOT PLAGIARISM because Senator Robert F. Kennedy is dead.

Thank you for making me laugh on this rather stressful day.

Of course the last laugh is on Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile because this is happening under his watch on his last term . And he’s tolerating it.

Except during the time of Senate President Jose Avelino who to this day is remembered for his famous “What are we in power for” speech,  never  in the history of the Philippine Senate  has this body been so debased as now.

You will also be long remembered for saying – “walang krimen (na) plagiarism sa Pilipinas.”

Do you think your lolo, Senator Vicente Sotto, is now spinning in his grave? Lolo authored  the Press Freedom Law and now his grandson  recently threatened to limit the freedom of expression of his cyber-critics.

Way to go, Senator.

UPDATE AS OF 10:21 pm, Sept. 5, 2012

A commenter named Evenstarwen   thought of a new word inspired by  Senator Vicente Sotto III:

senator

Comments

  2. I posted a very relevant comment on Jesse’s office “lockdown” @154 johnny Lin. I listed the facts of the case, followed by my own theory and suggestions. But my post got lost. Sorry.

    • It’s there. I don’t know why it landed in Spam box but I rescued it from there. And now it’s posted.

  3. when one translates an english text to Filipino, does that mean copying?
    So Translating and copying are the same? Hmmm….

      • Yes. Translation is copying. It copies the idea, the expression, the look and feel, in the words of Apple lawyers.

        Shakespeare in Russian is still Shakespeare, not Druzhinin (translator of King Lear) or Averkiev (translator of Hamlet).

        Similarly, Andres Bonifacio and Jose Gatmaitan wrote “Ang Huling Paalam ni Jose Rizal” (salin ni xxx or yyy).

        So this could have been “Talumpati sa South Africa” salin ni Tito Sotto (or xxx the speech writer).

        He should have chosen to translate JFK not RFK, and translated “Ich bin ein Berliner”.

        “Ako ay isang dunkin donut.” Jelly doughnut actually.

      • If one goes to a physical bookstore, or Amazon, one can order “The Unbearable Lightness of Being”; and the author is said to be Milan Kundera.

        But Kundera never wrote “The Unbearable Lightness of Being”. Kundera wrote “Nesnesitelna lehkost byti” (Czech). It is only when one opens the book that the book states that it was translated to English by MIchael Henry Heim.

        Same thing if you buy “Slowness”. It credits Milan Kundera, although he never wrote “Slowness”. Milan Kundera wrote “La Lenteur”. It was translated from the French to English by LInda Asher. So is “Slowness” Asher’s? The translation, yes. But the novel is still Kundera’s.

        • As you yourself pointed out – the translator’s name was stated and so was the alleged source of the translation.

          IN Sotto’s case, he never made mention that he was translating someone else. What does it cost him to mention that it was a translation of Bobby Kennedy? Nothing.

          It’s actually cheating. Those words, whether in English or Filipino, conveyed a series of thoughts and those thoughts did not originate from his brain.

          That’s all.

        • I was replying to Ms. Tiu, not your reply to her.

          My first sentence said. Yes. Translation is copying.

          Sorry. But I have to get the hang of navigating reply posts.

        • Oops.

          Sorry, too.
          I should reply from here.

          Not the admin panel – in order to see the entire thread of conversation.

        • That’s the problem if you no longer have arguments for your cause while you want to filibuster it. Your last recourse is simply to copy, copy, copy or sotto, sotto, sotto.

    • Sunday today.

      And the churchants opened their Bibles for the day’s reading.

      Some brought their own. Few had New International Version, oldies brought the King James Version, oops many didn’t know there is also an Apocrypha. Tagalog kamu? Meron ding ilocano, bisaya atbp.

      Biblia, different translations but thesame – A book of books.

      Mabuti nga wala ng latin at aramaic. Thank God for King James I of England (VI of Scotland)

      • Growing up in an all-boys Catholic school……( approved publications were available at the Catholic Trade School) …whatever happened to “Douay-Rheims” version of the Bible? I am certain there are millions of us in this age bracket!

        • St @Tomas,

          No idea, perhaps it never reached the shores of Cebu when Portuguese F Magellan colonized the islas for the king of Spain. He couldn’t read english during those years. Not only it was heresy, but arch enemies.

          Douay–Rheims Bible

    • Let us turn the tables around.

      What if somebody had a melody, and the lyricist gave the tunesmith the lyrics that go:

      There is nothing more enjoyable
      than this relationship of ours.
      I hope it never ends,
      this song of love of ours.

      Refrain:

      Oh Oh Oh Ah Ah Ah
      Sing it and I will dance to it.

      Does the English lyricist get to own the lyrics? Or is it still owned by Tito or brother Vic, for being a translation of “Awitin Mo at Isasayaw Ko”?

      • Hahahaha.

        I tried singing it. It doesn’t work. But it was fun.

        Also, the refrain killed me.

        I don’t think Tito will ever get the point. He’s not stupid. (seriously, he can’t be that stupid.) I think he knows he’s botching everything up. He’s simply too arrogant to admit his mistakes.

    • @mariatiu89,

      Essem Solomon at Comment No. 121.2 already answered your question before you asked. A part of her comment follows:

      With attribution, the legislator simply becomes a translator. Without attribution, however, as is the case in question, the legislator irresponsibly copied lines from Kennedy. In public speaking, when someone copies portions of one speech and presents them as his own, he/she is guilty of incremental plagiarism (Griffin, 2012).

      Her comment was actually an excerpt from her recent blog post. The link to her blog was supplied at Comment No. 121.2 which she posted on September 8, 2012 at 4:43 am.

  4. Can’t wait to read your findings on the Puno issue that the late Sec. Robredo was investigating plus his attempts to retrieve unspecified documents, Ms. Raissa. There’s far too many speculations going around, I myself can’t help to do the same. What interests me is whether PNoy has been kept in the dark regarding USEC Puno’s questionable activities or has he been turning a blind eye to protect his “buddy.” Hopefully, your report will touch on that aspect.

  5. Latest News

    PNoy says Puno out of DILG but he will transfer him in another govt post.

    Mr Prseident, who advises you on Puno?

    If you have a damaged flat front tire will you transfer it to the rear because your car is front wheel drive and the tire does not get much wear and tear in the rear?

    Wrong decision, sir!

      • I couldn’t wait for Raissa’s take on this latest Puno brouhaha, as I couldn’t wait to read what and how will Conrado De Quiros of PDI spin this story in favor of his co-Samar ally

        • @BobLant,

          Yeah, everyone’s anticipating what RR found out so far.

          Right, CDQ is popular here. I’ll check out his column 2morrow.

          In the meantime, some of the Comments awaiting confirmation has been passed now.

          check out my old and redundant comments:

          155.2,
          154.3,
          145.6

    • @johnny Lin..I agree 100%. I was appalled when the President said that. Transferring him to another post is not an option at all, he should cut off Puno’s head and throw it out in the ocean para naman mapakinabangan ng mga isda para hindi na makabalik in any government position.

      • @ chris… An excellent idea, panyero. Pero ang problema, mukhang si Mr. President ay hindi maatim sa sarile niya na malayo si Puno. Ano kaya ang katangian ni Puno at masyado siyang “UNTOUCHABLE” sa administration ni Mr. Aquino?

        With due respect, Mr. President… kailangan walang exception sa mga sinabi mo, Tulad ng: Daang matuwid, at kong walang corrupt, walang mahirap.

        • @AngLagay…Well, the President have no choice but to get rid of controversial Puno totally and not to offer anymore post in any government agency.
          MAGKAKALAT LANG NG TAE ‘YAN.
          Puno reminds me of Angelo Reyes before appoint by GMA from one department to another until committing suicide.
          Puno is well known as the EARS & EYES of the President but Mr. President have to be careful because Puno is an EMBARRASSMENT to his Administration and will be definitely his downfall.
          To preserve the integrity and credibility of the President, he has to do the right thing, AXE Puno’s head IMMEDIATELY.

    • It’s disappointing and disturbing how the President is handling this situation. What is it about Puno that makes him so valued by P.Noy other than their friendship? Does he possess qualifications that are rare and hard to find? Does he have any special capabilities that when lost will greatly disadvantage the Filipino people? What makes him so unexpendable?

      Why must it fall on the Filipino people to be his employer and have their taxes go towards the salary of this friend of the President?

      • @cha …tama ka dyan…. Peoples money ang salary nya, so as the monies to be paid to the supposed fire arms purchase.

        In my own opinion it’s more on HUETING PAYOLA ang papeles na hinahanap ni PUNO.

  6. BE MORE CIRCUMSPECT

    That recent Puno brouhaha brought about some issues and valid questions.

    While we support and recognize the prinicpled questioning of some of our members here, may we request them to be more circumspect and sober about it next time. It actually plays into the hands of the likes of Tiglao, et al who have nothing but the worst intentions for the administration.

    Let the ax fall where it needs to fall. Puno must go and must be prosecuted if warranted. But overzealous speculation may result in more damage than you think, rendering everything that has been built up and gained since 2010 useless.

    Let us not be like the Greeks, who count as among the smartest races in the world, but have managed to destroy themselves.

    (incidentally, Greece was Tiglao’s last assignment :) )

    • If PNoy, oredered Puno to secure Sec Robredo’s “office only”, then Puno overstepped his mandate in going to the condominium to secure documents.
      This “Puno” should be cut into “lumber” and be made into toothpick, Mapakinabangan naman.

      • @Vibora…The President said that there’s nothing wrong on what Puno did with intention of only securing documents.
        The President is aware that Puno is under investigation of Arm dealings and Jueteng. I can sense a cover up and conspiracy . Who knows maybe the President is involved or Puno ay may PINANGHAHAWAKAN laban sa kanya kaya he depend him so much.
        Archbishop Cruz might be right with his conversation with Secretary Robredo 4 months before Secretary died that there is 3 exemptions sa MATUWID NA DAAN at dismayed sa Malacanang for lack of support on Arms dealings investigation and Jueteng that Puno was involved in.
        This is the first time I agree with BRENDA for the Senate to have an inquiry on the possession of Condo, we might find out more on what is going on.
        This is a copy cat of Watergate Scandals involving President Nixon. ABANGAN SA SUSUNOD NA KABANATA. It is getting exciting. ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES.

        • As for Brenda, before she steps in the problem of the executive department, she should first check on the problem of Sotto and the ethics committee.
          Watergate scandal of Nixon? I think what had happened is far from it. For now we can just wait and see.

        • masyado mong ginugulo ang utak mo…o gusto mong guluhin ang utak ko.

          The people you tend to believe lack credibility, if they have credibility at all. Miriam is only good for yak-kat-tatak and pick up lines.

        • Nixon got the boot for cover-up (and the destruction of the damning tapes) more than anything else. It has been common knowledge to many – and this was confirmed by the media and historians – that both the Republican and Democratic parties have engaged in such illegal activity in the past – breaking in and stealing important info and documents from the opposing party’s headquarters.

          I supported Pnoy too, but not his KKK buddies. To really make a semblance of the Watergate scandal – Pnoy should utter the words that will forever be linked with Nixon’s presidency and forced resignation “I am not a crook!”

          It will take one thing for me to totally lose hope on what is now fast-becoming baloney aka Tuwid na Daan – Aquino on national TV flatly telling all Filipinos that “PUNO IS NOT A CROOK”

        • You are so wrong Rolly. I supported Pinoy all the way. I had high hopes for a better Philippines when he ran and ultimately won. I thought that his first speech was spot on – when he said no more WANG-WANGs – for its literal wang-wang in traffic meaning – and the more encompassing Wang-Wang (or mga mali) in our society and government. Pero pag may mga mali ang Presidente, dapat ipaalam natin sa kanya para maituwid nya.

          There have been lots of flaws in the way he handled some appointments. And the way he cuddled his KKK. Di ko alam ang KKK during the campaign and after victory. Dyan ako galit – sa pagkakaroon ng kaibigan, kabarilan at kaklase – di pa rin tuwid ang daan kung hindi mo rerendahan ang mga nakapaligid sa iyo na mga sakim, oportunista at mga makasarili at mga hindi nagiisip ng ikagagaling ng bayan. Yan ay isang bahagi rin ng pagiging corrupt o trapo – ang pagtangkilik sa mga kakampi kahit sila ay maliwanag ng tumatalilis na sa tamang landas.

          I still hope Pnoy recovers from all of these – pero dapat tanggalin na ang mga sumisira sa kanyang inner circle tulad nina Puno (Llamas at Torres, Panganiban at BJMP, et al)

          HIndi kesyo sinuportahan ko si Pnoy ay basta na lamang ako tatameme sa mga maling ginagawa nya. NEVER.

        • I hope everyone of us has the same principle. We are pro- “Matuwid na Daan”, not pro-Pnoy. It just so happens that we see Pnoy as the one who will help us to get there. That is why, kung meron tayong makitang mali sa kanyang pamamaraan, kailangan pa rin nating kumilos at ipaalam sa kanya ang disgusto natin. This should set us apart from the followers of GMA who, kahit lantaran na ang mga kabulukan na mga lumalabas, eh santa pa rin ang tingin sa kanya….making them mere GMA fanatics.

        • @BobLant

          Sorry If misread your write-ups, but if we really want a better Philippines, this is the best opportunity we will ever have in a generation or generations…huwag tayong bibitiw. Please remember that many people in the authority would not want Pnoy to succeed. They will always be in the look out for the slightest opening to advance their malevolent agenda.

          Please don’t let ourselves to be carried away by an instant burst of emotion.

          Remember too that we are all human, not superman… the President included.

        • @rolly..thanks for consoling him. I can understand his frustration the same thing I felt my dismay and disappointment to our President on his latest remarks regarding Puno how he still trust him and plan to transfer him into another government post. All we can do is hope for the best that Pnoy will change his mind and totally get rid Puno for good. Dapat talaga no exemptions sa MATUWID NA DAAN.

    • Puno committed an act of “Attempt” to violate the right of privacy! SEC. 2 ART III 1987 Philippine Constitution. Regardless of his “signing” the Registry (in fact, this proves the attempted act) so as to enter the Condo, does not help him. He had no permission from the owner of the Condo or from the wife of Mr. Robredo. The children cannot give consent unless expressly given by the owner, in writing, etc.

      Puno does not show any knowledge of respect for other people’s right to privacy! Very clear on that. And he’s a gov’t Undersectary of DILG! What would happen if Mr. Robredo came back alive and kicking, knowing his Condo was “search, etc.”?

      If Mr. Puno is an ordinary cop, he should be kicked out for such attempt toviolate on rights to privacy.

      But Mr. Puno is Undersecretary of DILG, How should he be “disposed?” PNoy can make him “a target” at the Shooting Range with live ammo! Puno has that potential to be bad and he is bad…Joker! ..what’s it again?…..

      • @leona. But our President said that there’s nothing wrong on the action taken by Puno with the intention of the documents being secured.
        The latest news is he will be out of DILG and transfer to another department. WOW! just a slap on the hand.
        I am very dismayed on Mr. President statement. This is the guy who is under investigation for illegal Arm dealings and Jueteng and he still have trust on him? That contradicts his slogan of MATUWID NA DAAN.
        I guest Archbishop Suarez is right that there is really an exemption on MATUWID NA DAAN. Mr. Puno should be ousted right away, finish the investigation started by Secretary Robredo, and if found guilty should never be on any government posting.
        He disgusted me. And I hope our President is not involve in anything….but I have a second thought. Looks like there is a conspiracy and cover up, a copy cat of Watergate Scandals that ousted President Nixon because of his involvement.

        • @Chris, can you please post the source of your information regarding R Puno being under investigation for illegal Arm dealings and Jueteng?

    • Sorry but the untrustworthiness of this Puno from the get-go (adamantly requested that PnP post right after Pnoy assumed office) makes honest citizens like us to question his motives for everything that he did or failed to do.

    • I agree.

      Let’s not be too quick to hold chismis and insinuations as facts. Let’s wait for actual news or info gotten from valid and credible investigation before we actually start forming a mob.

      HInay hinay lang mga kapitbahay.

      This Puno incident seems to be blown out of its actual proportion.

      I would like to hear him out, clarify a few things first, at least.

      Raissa has stated somewhere in here that she will look into it. I will certainly wait for that.

      • to some extent i agree with your and andrew lin’s points – pero kumbaga, sa isang criminal case – “preponderance of evidence” ang katumbas nito.

        napakarami na kasing bahid ang character at mga galaw nitong Puno na ito. hindi ba karapat dapat na magduda ang mga may isip na tao?

        isa pang halimbawa kaibigan (at malimit nating marinig ito, or even witness to some)
        sa isang lalake (o babae) na tinorotot ng asawa (pardon this use of word, but just emphasizing the point) – pag nadidinig mo sa iba, pag na aamoy mo ang rumors ng mga kaibigan, kapitbahay, ka trabaho o kabaranggay na nag che-cheat na ang iyong asawa – di ba halos 100% totoo ito ? pag may apoy, may maglalagablab, sabi nga sa amin sa Batangas . Sa mga blind at mga wimp – pinalalampas ito hanggang sa bandang huli mag mukhang tanga, gago at kawawa pag na realize na totoo nga pala.

        i dont want to sound too tela-novela – but i guess you will agree that this is true.
        what im driving at here is that – sa dami na ng questionable actions, or inactions, by this so freakin’ lucky Puno guy – hindi mo na masisisi na maging speculative ang mga naaapektuhang matinong mamamayan

        Peace to you bro!

        • The mere act of trying to dupe the maid into allowing them to be inside a private abode to secure sensitive documents without asking the permission of the owner whom they knew, from president Aquino to Undersec Puno, was in Naga, is the center of sinister intent. It would take a minute of phone call to Mrs Robredo, which they failed to do and not too hard to do because they were already in contact with her in monitoring the search for Jesse.

          All those involved could say they did not have malicious intent but the events that ensued betrayed them. A private personal property was treated like a government entity. That is where immoral and ill intent came into play.

          I would like to hear the president to claim there is nothing immoral or ill intent by Puno, Tanseco et al to try to convince the maid to allow them inside the private home without asking the consent of the owner. He already said he did not tell them to go to the condo.

          If the president could not perceive this simple small matter as obviously wrong, then his judgement on more complex matters would be doubtful, whatever he says about his incorrupt attitude. Covering immoral acts of friends or relatives is mental corruption already. What else is being covered secretly?

          Talk is cheap but admission of error speaks loudly on the fair judgment and moral character of a person. The president of a country has more moral obligation subscribing to this principle.

          The main issue is about transparent righteousness in “daan matuwid”.

        • “dupe the maid”?

          No disrespect, sir, but I do not recall reading this in the papers. I can only recall reading that the kasambahay called Mrs. Robredo to inform her that some men are trying to get inside the apartment.

          It’s the news reports that have been using the word “raid” and some other news-enriching phrases.

        • What did Puno et al, tell the maid to enter the house and search for papers. Undoubtedly they introduced themselves to her as people with authority and that they were from DILG with high position they were authorized by the president. PNoy said he did not tell Puno to go to to the condo. What alibi would they use except a presidential authorization. Certainly they could not say that Mrs. Robredo gave them permission nor say that Jesse told themto pick up the documents.

          Every detail could not be reported because some were obvious like their introduction and authorization to the maid.

          Thus Puno “duped the maid ” but she did not believe so she called the owner

        • Tristanism
          Si Puno nagpunta sa condo ni Robredo para kunin mga papeles sa loob ng bahay ni Robredo at wala silang paalam, galing kay Mrs.Robredo. Sabini PNoy hindi niya sinabi kay Puno na pumunta sa condo. Sigurado nagsinungaling ng dahilan grupo ni Puno sa katulong kaya tumawag siya kay Mrs Robredo kasi hindi siya makapaniwala sa sinabi sa kanya. Ang taong may isip yun ang iisipin na nagsinungaling sa katulong kaya nabuko si Puno.

          Yun lamang sinabi ko. Wala akong sinabi tungkol jueteng o illegal logging. Basahin mo lahat ng sinulat ko.

          Ikaw ang gumugulo sa kaisipan mo.
          He he he

        • “Sigurado nagsinungaling ng dahilan grupo ni Puno sa katulong kaya tumawag siya kay Mrs Robredo kasi hindi siya makapaniwala sa sinabi sa kanya.”

          See, that is your interpretation. I have always respected your insight and your seemingly inside sources, but I think that we’re jumping the gun on this one. Maybe the guy is a crook maybe he is not, but I believe he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

          Let’s assume he’s not crooked for a moment. Then we can assume that he was just overzealous in the performance of his duties. He was asked to secure the office of Robredo. He might have thought (or he knew — baka friends sila) that there were also sensitive documents in Robredo’s house, so he went ahead and tried to secure it.

          Maybe he was at fault for going ahead without proper documentation or whatever it is you need to have to secure someone’s home, but I don’t think the situation reported by news media is enough to brand him a crook.

          Again, he may or may not be a crook, but from what I have read (not the insinuations of news reports) I don’t think we can logically deduce that indeed he is a crook. He was overzealous maybe but I don’t yet see his acts being criminal. All I’m saying is let’s wait for a few more details.

          About the jueteng and illegal logging, I was talking about the other comments here and in some other news sites. I got confused there. :)

        • Ikaw, ano ang palagay mong sinabi nila sa katiulong kung sino sila at ang dahilan bakit nila kukunin ang mga papeles.

          Sinabi ba nila basurero sila at nangongolekta ng lumang papel o sinabi nila pinapunta sila ng presidente para secure ang mga papel hawak ni Jesse.

          Kaya ang tao may isip at marunong magsalita hindi kagaya ng unggoy.

          Kaya yung katulong marunong magisip at tinawagan ang amo.

          I did not assume he was a crook, it was you concluding that. I said what he did to go to condo and to get papers was immoral and illegal without consent of the owner when he knew how to contact mrs robredo. He overstepped and the latest news is Abigail Valte said Puno was instructed to secure contents of the govt offices of Robredo but not his residence. What does this latest announcement from palace mean? Was he given benefit of the doubt by Valte? Read Inquirer on this report.

          You are the one putting words into my posting that is why you are confused. I c

        • Bakit hindi na lang isapubliko ang nilalaman ng mga dokumento sa condo ni Robledo? Kung wala naman sensitive na materials doon huwag nang pahabain pa ang usapan. Baka love letters lang ni Robledo sa asawa ang naroroon. Naghuhusga na agad tayo kay Puno.

        • Hindi ko hinusgaan ang contents ng documents. Basahin uli mga sinulat para maintindihan ng husto.

          Ang hinusgaan ko ay ang pagpunta ni Puno sa condo na walang paalam na isang araw pagtapos mawala ni Robredo.

          Hinusgaan ko rin ang unang pagkunsinti ni PNoy sa pagpunta ni Puno sa condo pero ngayun pinabulanan na ni Valte.

        • @Johnny Lin…Well said I agree with you 100%. Puno should no better and the most appalling is the comment made by the President which is very disturbing that contradicts his MATUWID NA DAAN. Maybe what Archbishop Cruz said is true, exemption from KKK and Jueteng.

        • Analyzing the recent events, actuations, pronouncements, actions, response, etcetera of PNOY, PUNO, CRUZ re ROBREDO-ARMS DEALS-HWETENG, why do I have he uneasy disturbing feeling of losing my trust and confidence on our President vis-a-vis his much vaunted TUWID NA DAAN thingie? As our old folks would say: “ANG LAKAS NG KABA NG DIBDIB KO!”…. na waring may kinalaman ang ating Pangulo sa mga kasong ito. [Well, bahala na siya sa Tatay at Nanay nya. Dapat matuto siyang pangalagaan ang PANGALAN ng dalawang yumao.]

        • Right now, all that the media reports are doing are further muddying the issue. And when you have follow-up news that aren’t really news, people resort to speculation. And when it comes to speculation, the flavor of the conclusion will ultimately be influenced by the bias/personality of the one making the conclusion. Kung malisyosa ang nagbasa, malisyosa din ang conclusion.

          Halimbawa, kung me nakakitang me kasamang kumain sa restoran ang asawa ko, nakadepende yan sa nakakita. Kung malisyosa siya, ipagkakalat niya na me kalaguyo ang asawa ko. Kung tamang reporter lang to, mababanggit niya na kumain sa isang restoran ang misis ko.

          Right now, all we have are speculations masquerading as news. From what I’ve read online, it appears that Puno is an illegal logger, a gambling lord and a gun runner. Parang hahaba pa ata yan.

          All I’m saying is let’s wait for the actual news/events to unfold before we go and bash his head in with a digital brick.

        • Kami po ay ordinaryong tao at commenter here in RAISSA ‘s blog. We are not journalist nor mataas ang aming napag aralan. Pero kami naman po ay nakakaintindi ng TAMA at MALI at kung pinapaikot ikot na kami ng isang writer dito at also our local news or those PINOY’s spoke person’s .

          Kahit po Bali balikdadin ninyo ang nangyari sa pagpunta ni PUNO sa condo unit ni ROBREDO securing confidential papers at kahit si PINOY pa ang nag utos kay PUNO without any authorization or approval by Mrs. ROBREDO, ay Ito ay MALI at taliwas sa ” DAANG MATUWID ni PINOY ”

          This is not the RIGHTEOUS PATH PINOY’s had promised US. DAANG BALUKTOT Ito , and now chain reactions might follow like if the HACIENDA LUISITA SC’s decision will be amended and considerable increase of compensation will be afforded to the COJUANCO’s , do you think the Filipino people will not criticize or blame PINOY? Even the selection of CJ sereno which we believe a brilliant move by PINOY will be at question mark .

        • Ano pa ang actual event or news na hinahanap natin. Ano ang gusto nyong estorya na ilathala ng mga pahayagan o estorya na sasabihin ni PINOY para maniwala tayo na tama ang utos ni nya to secure the offices ROBREDO but not his condo.

          PINOY’s defending the honor of PUNO that the supposed irregularities in the firearms purchases are so small in millions such that PUNO was not involved. An intent to commit graft can now be equated to the status of a person. ( if you are rich and will be accused of intended graft of an small amount , PINOY can declare, he can or he will not do that ) DAANG MATUWID PABA ITO?

        • I believe in Raissa’s journalistic integrity. Ano na po ba ang nasabi ni Raissa tungkol dito?

          Has she gone on and bashed Puno?

          Hindi pa. Why? Kasi hindi pa naman sigurado e.

          At yan ang sinasabi ko. Kung tatalon tayo sa lahat ng intrigang ikakalat sa internet (kasi walang definite sa news items) ang gagawin lang ng kalaban ng daang matuwid ay magkalat ng tsismis at magkakagulo na tayo.

          Pagisipan din natin yan.

          All that the macedas, tiglaos, doronillas have to do is to whisper a few insinuations and then eto na tayo with pitchforks and all.

          So far ang sabi ni Pnoy ay may utos nga siya ke Undersec Puno to secure Robredo’s office. Maybe Puno went ahead and secured Robrero’s condo/apartment also.

          From that information, we can deduce either: feeling niya nga na me sensitive na papeles pati sa bahay ni Robredo na kelangan bantayan o kaya naman ay kriminal siya at me ididispatsa siyang mga ebidensiya.

          Dalawa ang interpretasyon sa nangyari pero pinili natin ang malisyosong kahulugan.

          That’s what we did: faced with, at least, two interpretations, we went and chose the more exciting one.

        • I dis agree with you. Ang pinili ko ay ang totoong ( righteous ) kahulugan sa mga nangyaring ito. Even papers inside you desk or datas on you computer even though how confidential it was you still need the consent of the owner to secure those papers.

          Kahit si PINOY pa ay hindi pweding suwayin/labagin nya ang CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS nating Ito. Hindi PO kami ABOGADO o JOURNALIST na kagaya nyo pero , alam naman po namin ang aming mga karapatan bilang masunuring mamayang PILIPINO.

        • Kung sakaling government official ako at me sensitive papers akong tinatago at bigla nga akong missing in action, it would be prudent for my friends to secure those documents. Pupunta sila sa opisina ko at pati na rin sa bahay ko kung sakaling me mga papeles din ako dun.

          Wala pa kasi akong makitang overtly criminal acts para tampalasin si Puno. Medyo hindi nga maganda ang dating ni Puno sa media, kaya lang puro naman haka haka ang report ng media. Wala pa akong nahahanap na report na may matibay na source. Puro pahapyaw lang.

          Naniniwala ako na in a few more days ay malalaman natin ang iba pang detalye. Baka magkaroon ng report si Ms. Raissa or baka naman me makatulong ang investigation ng senado.

          All in all, I am glad that people are taking part in this issue.

        • si PUno mismo ang dahilan kung bakit maraming masamang haka haka ang mga tao sa kanya. bahagi sya ng WAR team ni Pnoy nung campaign. Ginawang war room ang bahay nya. Ka shooting buddy sya ni Pnoy at ang unang hiningi nyang posisyon ay hawakan ang PnP dahil marami syang contact dun. Nagpapatunay na isang oportunista, kauupo laang ni Pnoy eh uupakan agad nya ang isang mataas na position eh di pa naman sya hasa sa mga govt ageny position.

          I agree with Victin Luz. Hindi kami abogado o pulitikong tao, may sarili lamang pag-iisip. ako mismo, tumulo luha nung pumanaw si Cory – dahil alam kong honest syang tao, napaligiran lamang ng ma taksil at mga ganid – nung necrological rites nya, naisip ko rin na sana tumakbo si NoyNoy dahil sya noon ang best alternative compared to Erap at Villar at kung sino sino pa. Natuwa ako nang binigay ni Roxas sa kanya . Natuwa ako nung nabuhay ang spirit ng Edsa at naluklok syang Presidente. Sinuportahan ko si NoyNoy pero hindi ko alam na marami palang mga KKK na nakapaligid sa kanya at isa ring mitsa ng trapo ang pagtangkilik sa mga KKK kahit hindi sila mismong qualified sa ano mang posisyon.
          What Im driving at here is that I am losing my patience, my trust in this Matuwid na Daan at Walang Wang-Wang baloney.

          Mga 4 araw pa at wala na talaga akong pag-asa sa ating bayan. 4 na araw – apat na araw para madinig ko ang PANIG ni Raissa Robles at ni Conrado de Quiros – dahil malaki ang DUDA ko sa kanilang dalawa. May Duda ako na sana ay Mali!

          Inuulit ko, sana MALI ang duda ko kay Raissa at kay Conrado – na dati kong hinahanggan pero sumasablay na rin sa aking prinsipyo.

          I’ll wait till Friday for their comments. If i hear “still gathering facts
          – then suko na talaga ako sa Pilipinas

        • @BobLant..I am lost DUDA ka kay Raissa?!?!? Why? Un COnrado hindi ko kilala. Can you fill me in why you have DOUBTS kay Raissa?

        • Ang kaibigan o kapatid walang karapatan pakialaman ang papeles o ariarian sa private home ng namatay kung walang paalam sa asawa kahit kakilala ng katulong. Ang tawag dun respeto at delikadesa, meron kasi akong pagiisip tungkol dun.

          Sa upisina ng gobyerno bahala dun yung amo ng namatay at kaiba dun sa private residence. Ang kapatid at kaibigan wala rin karapatan sa papeles ng gobyerno dahil may among mas mataas at responsable.

          Ganun kasimple ang moral and legal common sense.

          Bahala ang korte magdesisyun kung criminal act yung ginawa kung may magreklamo. Pero immoral at illegal da paningin ko ang ginawa ni Puno at hindi dapat ipagtanggol ng presidente. Wala akong sinabing criminal siya.

        • @kahit sensitive papers needed let say figures or statistics of police force to be granted with new fire arms which are inside your office tables or computers, kahit sino PO Hindi basta basta na magbukas ka ng drawers or computer, violative sa CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS NATIN. Kung ABOGADO ka alam mo Ito, at Kung Hindi na kagaya ko magtanung ka kaya sir. CONSENT OF THE OWNER IS NEEDED

        • @tristanism..Kung wala tinatanago si Puno dapat lumantad na siya at pagtanggol nya ang sarili nya.
          Obviously he might be looking for a documents which is under Secretary Robredo’s possession that links his name to Arm dealings and jueteng. Maybe there are names in there too in a higher position aside from Puno that are involved in a controversy.
          I hate to think that Pnoy is one of them, but I must admit I have doubts, or Puno aside from being buddies of Pnoy ay may pinanghahawakan laban sa kanya. Brenda is criticizing him and to have a Senate inquiry to seek the truth why there is a condo raid and he don’t even defend himself? Still a complete silence.
          What bothers me is when Pnoy said that there is nothing wrong with Puno to be in the condo to secure the documents and he still trust Puno after all the controversy Puno has been involved with.

    • your succinct admonition to everyone is much appreciated sir lim. sometimes the
      truth gets lost in the cloud of conspiracy theories.

        • couldn’t agree with you more! read all your postings on this issue and your open
          mindedness in your reasoning seem to balance out the evident emotionalism in
          some comments which reminds me of the idiom “shoot first, ask questions later.”
          matuwid na daan must be paved by truth not with pressure !

    • #159/Andrew Lim……pa-angkas!…..I am with you.
      If conspiracy theories cannot be stopped…..the freedom to espouse an opinion must likewise be tempered with prudence. IF the suspicion is that Puno committed a crime, then that suspicion must also adhere to a “beyond reasonable doubt” yardstick. Ang haka-haka ay hindi pa katumbas ng katotohanan. Hinay-hinay muna hanggang mapasakamay ang katibayan!. But by all means, if a crime can be proven to have been committed, prosecute Puno.
      We all have a stake in the success of “Daang Maatuwid” and of PNoy’s presidency. However, I believe that correcting perceptions created by inconclusive reportage, preliminary conclusions and spin is incumbent upon the President and his communications cadre to assuage doubts that can ensue.

      • Asya na, minayoyo nga sangkay.

        People are fueling the tsismis going around — and adding a few exciting bits here and there na din.

        We need to step back and sift things out.

        We should know better. This is CPM, after all.

        • I believe this is no longer tsismis, analyze the worded pronouncements of PINOY then correlate to the sequencial/chronological events before and after the plane crashed of ROBREDO and even a high school graduate will tell you this is not tsismis but something like substantial evidence showing PUNO had committed wrong doings as undersecretay of DILG and PINOY and his spoke persons are hiding something to the FILIPINO PEOPLE , ” pilit nilang tinatakpanang mga maling gawain ni PUNO.

          Ang pagtatakip nila ay ” UNRIGHTEOUS PATH ” sa aming maliit na nalaman sa ating BANSA.

        • hindi rin ako naniniwala sa tismis, hindi ko rin binibili ang conspiracy theory na pinatay si Sec Robredo

          pero patawad po – wala po akong tiwala sa pagkatao ni USEC PUNO. Para sa akin eh isa syang oportunista, kurap, trapo, makasarili at isa ring buwaya sa gobyerno at lipunan.

          you all may not agree with what i have just said “but i will fight to death my right to say it” sabi nga ng isang Amerikano..(to avoid being charged with Sottonism)

      • When he dies, Sotto’s epitaph, eulogy or obit should all be copied.

        something like :here lies a lawyer (or a formetr Senator), who lies still…and still lies…

  8. Finally a Senate one step forward,
    ‘
    Put RH bill to a vote now    , this was the challenge issued yesterday by Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago to her colleagues in the Senate and House of Representatives to determine once and for all which side – the pro or the anti – has the numbers.’

  9. Lest I be accused of digressing from the topic of the blog post (on Sotto) I will just comment:

    P.Noy did order Puno to do something…

    To seal or steal (files), that is the question.

    – #Sinotto

    Aabangan ko na lang ang susunod na blog post ni Ma’am Raissa. Dumarami ang comments dito kay Sotto na wala naman siyang kinalaman…

    • @raissa,

      I just hope there will be a very good timeline and presentation of facts re: condo caper.

      According to Google translate…

      “Ito ay isang kabisera pagkakamali sa magteorya bago isa ay may data. Nang walang pakiramdam ng isa nagsisimula sa iuwi sa ibang bagay ang mga katotohanan sa mga teoryang suit, sa halip na mga teoryang sa mga katotohanan ng suit.”

      – #Sinotto

      If confused, the original states…

      “It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.”

      ― Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes

  10. Facts on Puno, tanseco trying to eneter Robredo condo unit.

    1. Tanseco knocked on Robredo unit to eneter the residence but was denied by maid and subsequent call to Atty Rances.
    2. Supt Tanseco is under command responsibility of Undersecretary Tanseco by virtue of Puno administrative position and highest ranking officer upon disappearance of Robredo.
    3. Pres Aquino admitted that he orderedto secure the offices of Robreo but he was silent on reason why Puno, Tanseco and company WENT or tried to enter Jesse’s condo unit.
    4. Puno was the highest ranking DILG personnel who went to Robredo condo so he had command responsibility on the action.
    5. There is not legal or moral reason to Robredo residence without asking the permission of Mrs. Robredo. Mace Esposo of Philippine Daily Inquirer opined that there was no reason to condemn Puno on going to Robredo residence because there was no prrof he had illegal motive. He also said it was stupid too sign the names in the registry if ill motive was in their mind. Puno and company had no recourse except to sign the visitors registry because It was the only way they could justify their entry to the unit and announce to the guards they are people with authority. They did not have to lie because they did not anticipate that the maid would refuse their entry to the unit. they were caught flatfooted by the maid.

    The mere fact that Puno and company tried to go to Robredo condo without any reason is proof enough that something sinister is brewing. Puno knew that Robredo was declared missing the day before. Mrs. Robredo was in Naga. Puno did not ask her permission to go to their conjugal condo unit. There was NO REASON AT ALL for Puno and company to go to the condo.That is reason enough to suspect him of doing something illegal in the condo because he was physically present in the compound.

    Puno went unnecessarily to the condo without logical reason. When a person is inside the perimeter of your compound without any reason to be there, what would one think?
    1. This person wants to visit the owner whom he knows is missing and not present inside the property
    2. This person got the permission of the wife to enter the compound which is not true.
    3. This person is up to something evil, like stealing
    4. He was lost and did not know he ended in the condo compound of Robredo.

    Which is the most plausible answer among the 3 above.

    Puno could not wiggle his way out of this predicament. He had no legitimate reason to ask entry to Jesse’s condo unit.

  11. Latest News ABS CBN

    Pres Aquino admits he ordered Puno to lockdown Robredo offices but he did not admit he ordered the takeover by Puno of Jesse’s condo unit.

    Aquino claims THAT IT IS FINE WITH HIM THAT PUNO TRIED TO ENTER JESSE’S CONDO because the documents were secured.

    It is the most irresponsible statement from Aquino as president of republic because he is condoning illegal activities.

    Here is why Aquino is wrong morally and legally.

    1. Aquino, despite being president does not have the right to order the takeover of sonebody’s personal residence without court order or consent of conjugal owner who is Mrs. Leni Robredo.
    2. What Aquino is saying that as long as The documents are secyred, it does not matter the methods employed are illegal or in violation of constitutional rights. EVEN CRIMINALS ARE GIVEN DUE COURSE BY LAW UNDER THE MIRANDA DOCTRINE. VIOLATION OF POLICE FORCE OF THIS RIGHTS WOULD EXONERATE THE CRIMINALS. Applying this Miranda principle on the act of Puno, condoned by Aquino, it is an obvious violation of rights.
    3. Aquino claimed that DeLima notified him that Robredo was investigating Puno’s connection with illegal purchase of firearms. He also admitted that he ordered Puno to secure same documents. It does not make moral or legal or command responsibility sense that the president swearing on “daan matuwid” principle would order a person to secure documents in which that same person is the subject of the documents under investigation.

    I hate to say it. Aquino is covering something on ths issue due to either of the following:
    1. He could be under pressure to cover up for Puno
    2. Aquino is involved in the anomaly under investigation by Robredok
    3. PNoy has skeletons that Puno knows and he is worried that Puno is going to use this secret as leverage to expose him.

    Why this 3 possible conclusion?
    A responsible incorruptible authority like the president would not logically say that “it is ok with him as long as the documents are secured for whatever means”. Which includes illegal methods. Nixon thought and acted the same way with Watergate. In Nixon case, his men were able to secure the documents by unlawful entry to a private residence while Puno and company tried to enter illegally but were prevented by the maid of Robredo which was the only reason they were not able to secure the documents. Aquino is saying he condones this unlawful act of Puno.

    Sorry, Mr President. High regards to your program of anti corruption us appreciated, but without punishing or condemning Puno, you are not different from those you are condemning for corrupt ways.

    Stealing one peso or one million pesos are not different. They are both felonies.
    Condoning massive corrupt activities or minor infraction of illegal entry or violation of rights are also the same. Both violate our constitutional laws.

    Your moral judgment on this issue of violating the personal rights of Robredo by Puno, Tanseco and company is wrong, should be denounced, investigated and must be answered by you personally unless you clarify your judgment when you come back from Russia.

    To you, this might be a trivial matter. But to those seeking the right path know that grand illegal moves or corruption start from small acts. There is no room to tolerate any illegal activities, even how minute or isolatedev in nature. This is the only way the people are assured that everyone is following the rule of law.

    Respect on you is tarnished by your statement published by Philadelphia Inquirer: “That what Puno did (including failed entry on Robredo condo unit) was fine with you as long as the sensitive documents were secured”.

    It is a stupid statement coming from the president of the country!

    • @Johnny ,….. Are they covering only those fire arms transaction or others like HUETING ? It’s not good for PINOY and they are now on the WRONG PATH.Heads must roll for PINOY to recover otherwise ” sayang lang ang mga naumpisahan nya “

      • @Victin
        I dont want to speculate on the contents of documents. That is not the issue with Puno’s visit to Robredo condo.
        They did not have business telling the maid the purpose of their visit was to secure papers, not necessarily secret documents held by Robredo.

        Plainly, Puno and his cohorts did not have any authority from the owner asking for papers, including toilet paper. It’s that simple. They violated every simple tenet of common decemcy and respect to the Robredos.

        Aquino should not have condoned his act whatever was the purpose or intent.
        They made a mistake. Admit it., very simple.

        Netizens are asking Sotto to have apologized.and his issue of pagiarism could have toned down. Puno could have done the same, expressing apology that he misinderstood the president order. His silence betrayed him compounded by the tolerance of PNoy on his action.

        • :lol: LOL

          aminin mo na. nakuryente ka. LOL!

          The accurate communication between the househelper, Mrs Robredo and eavesdropper DSWD Head Dinky Soliman, it may have been lost in the translation.

          Was the mobile call on loudspeaker? Was it in english, tagalog, bisaya, ilonggo, multi dialect or what-have-you local dialect between them?

          Ohh btw, was the househelper quite accurate that she heard ‘kukunin’ o ‘kupkupin’ ang mga documento from the police officer by now in the penthouse level.

          It was the media and anonymous source(s) who used words ‘raid’ and made it appear “by hook or by crook“, seemingly a desperate maneuver by R Puno and company.

          While the elusive Rico Puno still refuses to Dinky di (Australian Bush Vernacular: To stress truth; true blue; for Real; speaking the truth.) He still refuses to explain, why his silence makes more noise than thunder.

    • I want to give Pnoy the benefit of the doubt. But yes, all the questions you asked must be asked. And if it is true that his friend and shooting buddy attempted to commit a crime then heads must roll indeed. Pnoy should not squander his record high approval rating just for the sake of his friends. He should remove Puno ASAP and direct that the investigations against him (for his anomalous transactions) continue.

      • Posted at 08/31/2012 2:58 PM | Updated as of 08/31/2012 11:28 PM

        abs-cbnnewsDOTcom/nation/08/31/12/rico-puno-out-dilg

        MANILA, Philippines – Newly appointed Interior and Local Government Secretary Mar Roxas said Undersecretary Rico Puno will be given another assignment outside the DILG.
        Roxas said the President has given him the free hand to bring his own people into the agency.
        He said all co-terminus positions in the agency are to be vacated.

        “[The President] gave me a free mandate to choose my team. I would expect that lahat ng mga co-terminus would be vacated by the time na pumasok tayo. Ayon sa Pangulo, may ibang assignment siya na naiisip para kay Usec. Puno,” he said.

        Paki basa na rin Maria ang 140.9 for oher development.

    • This story below must be the one Johnny Lin was referring to:

      PNoy ordered Robredo’s office lockdown
      By Lynda Jumilla, ABS-CBN News
      Posted at 09/08/2012 10:04 PM | Updated as of 09/08/2012 11:27 PM

      abs-cbnnewsDOTcom/nation/09/08/12/pnoy-ordered-robredos-office-lockdown

      VLADIVOSTOK, Russia – President Benigno Aquino III on Saturday said he gave the orders for Interior and Local Government Undersecretary Rico Puno to secure the office of the late Interior and Local Government Secretary Jesse Robredo, shortly after Robredo’s plane crashed off Masbate.
      However, the President said he did not order Puno to go as well to Robredo’s condominium.
      Puno, along with several policemen allegedly tried to access Robredo’s condo unit in Quezon City, but was not allowed entry.
      “Sometime in the early evening (of the crash), (DOJ) Secretary Leila de Lima called and pinaalala niya the need to secure Secretary Robredo’s documents, because at that time he was doing a lot of investigations,” the President said in a chat with the media while attending the 20th Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Leaders Meeting.
      Aquino said since there are only two DILG undersecretaries–one of them Austere Panadero, who is concerned with local governments–it was but logical that the task be given to Puno who is deputy for police operations.
      When Aquino was told that Puno likewise went to Robredo’s condo, he said: “Well, he probably thought there were also some documents there that needed to be secured.”

      What the Filipino people would think had these sensitive documents got lost.
      It would be imprudent for the President not to act on matters that could be of national interests.

      Siguro, dapat hinay hinay muna tayo.

      • Whether there are documents kept or not by Robredo, decency dictates that permission should have been sought permission from mrs robredo since they already know she was in Naga before Puno went to the condo and tried to intimidate the maid by saying they needed to get important papers. That is the big issue.

    • WHOA! So good! To the point! What now PNoy? This might be “a small thing” as PNoy believes it to be….NO!….there is an attempt to violate someone else PRIVATE RIGHTS here! What’s the big thing Mr. President?

      Are you losing something now? Parang “hurried FEAR” was coming after Mr. Robredo disappeared!

      @Johnny Lin, if PNoy reads this point of yours, can he keep quiet? He must be something boxed-into a corner! Hurried FEAR? Are they losing their marbles onto something big & important Mr. Robredo was working on?

      “Documents” inside the Condo “to be secured” without permission from the owner of the Condo? Involving State Security? Tell us then.

      PNoy must have made a slip on this…very sensitive = privacy rights of someone.

    • Paano nga pala kong pinayagan sila ng maid na makapasok sa loob ng condo, at nakatawag ang kasambahay kay MRS ROBREDO, mas malaking problima seguro.

    • Johnny [email protected]

      Let us marshall the facts before making any suggestions, much less conclusion.

      FACTS

      1. Puno was ordered by Pnoy to secure Jesse’s office in the evening of August 20.
      2. In the morning of August 21 Puno proceeded to secure Jesse’s office as ordered.
      3.  The purpose of Pnoy’s order was to prevent any movement of documents – sensitive or not – without proper clearance.
      4. After securing Jesse’s office Puno proceeded to secure Jesse’s condo.
      5.  There is no report whether Puno was able to secure Jesse’s condo despite the maid’s refusal to allow Puno to enter.
      5.  There is no info whether Puno went to other places to secure the same for the purpose above said.

      MY THEORY
      1.  Pnoy’s order to Puno should have been a general order to secure ALL of Jesse’s documents, whether official or private, wherever they may be – in Jesse’s office, condo, house in Naga or any known depository of Jesse’s documents.  Access to and sorting of the documents could be done at appropriate time by proper persons.
      2.  The general order could be implemented by simple physical security measures such as locking and sealing the whole place or any part thereof, complimented by guards to prevent access of unauthorized persons and by CCTV cameras for round the clock security.
      3. The problem I think is not on the order issued by Pnoy.  He could not be expected to issue orders with all the necessary details. Puno should have made proper adjustment and coordination to attain the objective of securing Jesse’s documents.  
      4. Insofar as the maid left in the condo is concerned, she could be transferred to a safe place upon securing the place.  Remember that safety is paramount in ALL instances.

      • The Main point is asking the consent of the owner. The president of a country could not give order to secure a private property without a court order, consent of the owner or imminent or immediate danger in life to the occupants. The maid could not be forced to vacate the premise without the above conditions on constitutional rights. Plain and simple.

        The president already said the condo was not part of his order which is legally right.

        • Johnny [email protected]

          Agree. Nobody can enter private dwelling without the consent of owner.  Puno should have coordinated first with proper persons like Leni or the caretaker. Anyway, he did not have to enter the condo to secure it.  Perimeter security would be sufficient such as putting guards and cameras outside the unit and placing the condo under tight surveillance. Of course that would be in coordination with condo authorities.  My point is that the State is not wanting in police power to safeguard its citizens and sensitive documents.

          It is possible that the life of the maid was in peril if malefactors are really intent to pilfer sensitive documents from Jesse’s apartment.

        • One more thing. Puno should have done what he was ordered to do on the same evening of August 20, not a minute later after receipt of presidential directive. Initially by putting police mobile patrol cars in the target areas i.e. Jesse’s office, condo, house in Naga, etc.

          Nobody has to enter the place unless necessary and with proper coordination/permission.

        • @Johnny…. Kahit mga papeles sa iyong lamesa o laman ng ating mga computer at kahit si PINOY pa ay Hindi pweding maghalungkat o kumuha o buksan ang ating mga lamesa o computer , even how confidential it was, you need the consent of the owner or a court order to be legal and will not VIOLATE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

          It’s violative because during the process of searching you may accidentally ran into personnal-confidential papers of ROBREDO .

          Ngayon kung it pertains papers that will endanger our National Security , PINOY will not only secure the area but to SEALED the AREA and post 24hrs guard, To his room.

          But if pertains to confidential papers pertaining to GRAFT or ILLEGAL GAMBLING, OWNER’s CONSENT is BADLY NEEDED .

          MUCH MORE in the CONDO of ROBREDO, mali na lahat ang ginawa nila.

        • “Anyway, he did not have to enter the condo to secure it. Perimeter security would be sufficient such as putting guards and cameras outside the unit and placing the condo under tight surveillance. Of course that would be in coordination with condo authorities. My point is that the State is not wanting in police power to safeguard its citizens and sensitive documents.” I agree with Rene-Ipil’s analysis…The order of the president is to secure not to enter the premises and get the documents… that’s how I understand it… the methodology used by Puno & co. in executing the order is incorrect as there is no permission by the the owner – this was fortunately corrected by the maid’s presence of mind in calling her employer to ask instruction.. this incident is being played out by media and netizens.. the attempt was foiled by the maid .. kudos to the maid and to the Robredo family’s wise and prudent training for household staff… as for me… I will also wait for a more detailed research on this by Ms. Raissa..

  14. My first comment on this site didnt get posted, maybe awaiting moderation by Raissa, so I tried again and the one posted below was actually the shorter version of what I originally wrote.

    Before I continue, let me say that I am so impressed by the concerted efforts of all CPMers in our common goal of seeing a progressive and corruption-free Philippines. I am with you every step of the way. Have been browsing this site for months now, although I have necer posted anything till today.

    Pagkatapos kung lumuha sa pagkamatay ni Sec Robredo, ngayon ay kumukulo ang dugo ko sa mga nababasa ko tungkol kay Puno. Kaya hinihiling ko na sana mag share si Raissa ng kanyang nalalaman tungkol dito, o kung ano mang kanyang malalakap na katotohanan o importanteng impormasyon dito.

    At kahit medyo huli na, hinihintay ko pa rin ang pangako ni Raissa na magsusulat sya ng tungkol sa Luneta Fiasco – dahil ayon na din sa kanya, nadoon sya noon as a first-hand witness…

    Mabuhay kayong lahat mga CPMers. salamat po…

        • @Mel
          It means you and cha will be hosting Raissa when she makes investigative documentary Down Under.

          Then you will be officially classified as tv host like the great plagiator
          He he he.

        • No worries.

          God willing, she can come on a furlough and I’d like to throw in a barbie (bbq) for her and family.

          @Johnny, baka gusto mo rin dumayo sa ibaba? dumalo rin sana ang ibang aussie CMPers.

          aussie chapter?! :lol:

          sorry folks, I am getting ahead of myself.

  15. First time poster, long time visitor to this site.

    Kumukulo dugo ko sa mga latest news, especially the one about Puno.
    I supported Pnoy and his drive against corruption. Pero nawawala na yata ang meaning ng tuwid na daan. I can’t wait to see what he plans to do when he comew back from the Apec meeting.

    Tibagin na yang KKK… else, I might get the Jim Paredes syndrome – ang tuluyang sumuko at mawalan na ng pag-asa sa ating inang bayan – at mangibang bansa na lamang…

    Can’t wait for Raissa to write something about this. Or Conrado de Quiros – who I have always respected and admired – until he constantly hits on Roxas and never on Binay, Llamas, Torres and especially Puno. Kasama siguro sya sa Samar group – and that is what is saddening in the grand scheme of things. Akala ko nagsimula na ang pagbabago, ang daan patungo sa ating pag-unlad – pero sa iisang kampo marami pa ring parang mga bata na nag-aaway.

    Di ka rin pala hinog si Conrado. Napipilipit din ang prinsipyo ayon sa sitwasyon, kahit sa ikasasama ng bayan.

    The more I grieve and mourn the passing of the best, the most honest and the greatest public servant I have ever known in my lifetime – Sec Jesse Robredo.