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By Raïssa Robles
Japan’s new Foreign Minister, Fumio Kishida, is in Manila today and tomorrow to meet with President Benigno Aquino and his local counterpart, Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario.
According to a news report in today’s South China Morning Post jointly bylined by Greg Torode and me, ” Kishida is widely expected to discuss the provision of up to 10 state-of-the-art coast guard ships to the Philippines under a development aid package, according to diplomats.”
UPDATE: January 9, 2013, 11 PM
Greg and my story was confirmed today in a news conference by Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario. See the story :
Philippines plans to purchase coast guard vessels from Japan: official
Below is our story which can be accessed here –
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1123359/japan-increases-military-budget-amid-tension-beijing
Japan increases military budget amid tension with Beijing
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TERRITORIAL DISPUTEGreg Torode and Raissa Robles in Manila
Spending rise details emerge as foreign minister visits Philippines amid South China Sea dispute
Japan is to spend more than US$1 billion to expand radar coverage and military surveillance flights in its first increase in military spending in more than a decade as the newly elected Liberal Democratic Party fleshes out its approach to dealing with an emboldened China.
Details of the budget increase emerged as Tokyo summoned the Chinese ambassador to formally protest against Beijing’s latest deployment of ships to the Japanese-occupied Diaoyu Islands – which Tokyo calls the Senkakus – the first such move since Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was returned to office last month.
Abe’s new foreign minister, Fumio Kishida, stages his first foreign trip today – visiting strategic partner the Philippines, which is also locked in a territorial dispute with China over the South China Sea.
Agence France-Presse quoted an official with the LDP’s national defence task force as saying that the defence budget would be expanded by more than 100 billion yen (HK$8.8 billion).
“We have decided that the additional budget will be used for research into a new radar system as well as fuel and other maintenance costs for early-warning aircraft,” the official said, despite Beijing’s warnings against higher defence spending.
Japanese defence officials have become increasingly concerned about the long-term security of its southern island chain as the long-simmering Diaoyu-Senkaku spat degenerates into a new regional flashpoint and marked point of tension between Asia’s two giants.
The budget increase highlights a significant shift across Japanese society and its political arena, with rises in defence spending for years considered a no-go area given the country’s pacifist constitution. Despite the document limiting its military’s role, Japan has a well-equipped and advanced military, including ultra-quiet submarines.
The increases are also likely to please its treaty ally the US, which has long urged Japan to spend more on its own defence long-term, while still continuing to host US forces on its soil.
In another move set to be closely watched by Beijing, Kishida is widely expected to discuss the provision of up to 10 state-of-the-art coast guard ships to the Philippines under a development aid package, according to diplomats.
A statement from Philippine foreign secretary Albert del Rosario confirmed the prospect of wide-ranging talks, saying that as well as bilateral relations, “regional issues and the foreign policy priorities of the new Japanese leadership” would be covered.
“The visit is an opportunity for both countries to advance the Philippines-Japan Strategic Partnership under the new Japanese administration,” it said.
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328 Comments on "Japan Foreign Minister may discuss with PNoy aid provision for up to 10 state-of-the-art coast guard ships"
The Japanes PM is also engaging in billiards diplomacy?
But it should be a very welcome aid to our country – it will definitely bost the navy patrol capability to safeguard our coastal areas.
@chit navarro
In the short term, provision of coast guard ship under a development aid package is really a welcome “gesture” pero ano kaya ang kapalit.
In the long term, our government should consider domestic fabrication of military seacrafts. We boast of one.of the best in ship building but our navy is in miserable state. Also island local government units should be equipped with similar seacrafts for internal maritime security.
Is there any difference between the PNP cops and PN personnel? Cops are grabbing the confiscated firecrackers for themselves for next year. Navy, ano? Baka nag a-agawan ng salbabida!
by the way, why hasn’t anyone mentioned about Enrile giving of Christmas gift amounting to 1,6 Million Pesos to the senators except f some 4 senators namely, Trillanes, Miriam, Pia Cayetano and another senator who ONLY got 240 K. I think this is quite interesting too.
…@pelang, I did. Go find it as a “gift” too!
No Ma’m. PNP confiscate firecrackers and give it Philippine Navy for their arm-less waste-of-money stripped-down Hamilton class cutter.
IN EFFECT, THOSE HAMILTON CLASS COAST GUARD CUTTER is nothing but just a PASSENGER SHIP plying between Manila-Scarborough Shoal-Spratleys.
Hurry, Hurry, Step right up !!!! Tickets on sale to pristine islands of Spratleys jointly administered by China-Vietnam-Philippines-Thailand-Taiwan
You have latrines? Oh my, you’ve gone up in the world
Here is the link to see the picture of the BRP G. Del Pilar formely the HAMILTON CLASS CUTTER transfered to the Philippines Cost Guard. She doesnt look HARMLESS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PF-15_at_Poro_Point_130412.jpg#file
and you’re speaking as a loyal taxpaying Filipino who lives right here, am I right?
I am not taxpaying because I live abroad. My “taxes” is in the form of remittances to my relatives which is more than enough, a thousand enoughs, to float the catsup-and-noodles economy.
Remittances? what, three cans of spam and a couple of bottles of Heinz catsup?
I do send money back. The money I sent has trickle down effect on Chinese economy. Because the money I sent they buy it on Chinese-assembled iPhones. The profit that Chinese made they use it against us.
Your relatives don’t know how to sustain themselves? they have no marketable skills or they’re just lazy?
Unfortunately, they do not. It is the will of God. I cannot go against the current of fate God has programmed for my family. That is why I hate God so much.
did you at least send Him a memo?
@Mariano Renato Pacifico
With due respect, saan na po napunta ang nationalistic at patriotic spirit mo?
Have you cleaned your latrines yet? Er, you DO know how to use them, right?
You are a wizard of latrines
Ssssh !!! Do not tell Raissa. YOU ARE CUTE.
Now, now no autographs
The previous administration couldn’t wait to give away our territory. Arroyo even got Estelito Mendoza to testify in the Senate that it was pointless trying to defend the islands, we should just give them up. If Arroyo — or trapos like her — were still president, in a few years we’d have Filipinos being required to pay a Chinese gatekeeper for the privilege of swimming in the waters off Luzon’s western beaches
That is well said Alan, the administration of GMA really was visibly trying to sell our assets to the Chinese. I would not blame them if they are trying to align with China. They may have a good reason. Joint venture may also be good but at least the definition and delineation of boundaries must be straightened out first so that we will know our sovereign rights.
I believe that the Philippines and China have very close historical ties and should be working together in friendship.. The matter of the islands and maritime boundaries should be cleared up to the satisfaction of both sides so that we can resume these close links
This I agree, Alan. The Filipinos should stop huffing and puffing. Our military do not have intellectual strategic capacity to attack Chinese with flotilla of pumpboats.
We just, like, work with them till they get tired.
Barack is not even interested with the Philippines. He flew by bypassed us several times in his jaunt to Asia.
is that what Barack told you? was that while you were out on a double date?
Alan, you do have a sense of humor. No! Barack did not tell me so but his action speaks louder than my voice.
Double date? Ewwww !!!! Never do that. It is against my religion. I may be anti-RHBill but when it comes to marriage I am pretty much conservative: “Thru sickness and health, Till love do us part” Oooops !!! Isn’t that the slogan of Divorce proponents ?
You’re certainly conservative in your thinking — you conserve your thinking so much you hardly seem to use it
Interesting alliances shaping up. I’ve argued that the four forces intent upon undermining President Aquino and Philippine development are: (1) the anti blogs, (2) China, (3) the Catholic Church, and (4) the chronically corrupt. Looks like the only missing partner of UNA might be . . . hmmmm.
No missing partners?
That’s an intriguing analysis. Over the last 20 years, the standard way to displace Presidents has been to work on the military, but I’m not sure if that’s going to fly now. As for the anti blogs I think most of them are financed by the Marcos and Arroyo groups as well as entities looking to the 2016 elections
Hmmm, Wonder who I can sell my soul to . . .
How much is your soul?
About the same as an Enrile Christmas gift for someone he likes a lot.
“even dollars” FTW
…how about Kinkoy currency? We still have ’em!
you accept &Yuan currency?
Oh, yes, I’ll take rupees or rubles, shekels or even dollars.
@Joe Am…may I guess?….the LP congressmen who were Kampi-Lakas GMA then…if something happens, they’ll all again reverse their coats for UNA in due time! They always do that! How time makes one reverses the coats! Like the ‘jackets’ before – reversible, remember?
Reversible jackets. Nice description. Gadzooks, so the best President the Philippines has had since forever risks getting ganged up on by those who want their bread buttered with distillates of pork.
You’re dating yourself (with those reversible jackets).
Art, my wife has one that she picked up at Bench or Guess or one of those modern, stylish places. THAT’S the jacket I was thinking of, not that dorky thing with blue on one side and grey on the other that I wore in Junior High School. I can’t even remember that far back . . .
@Alan…surprised ka! Yun chinese gatkeeper si Esteli Men Chi! Naging kolector uli!
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“I particularly like the latest response to China’s initiative to support joint development in the Spratleys. The response, in effect, “Sure, if it follows Philippine law.” The point being this is Philippine territory.”
Yes, that is a superior strategy. And the best economic policy vis-a-vis China which all Filipinos must support if pursued by the present government.
Philippines & China were allies against Japan in WW II. Now, Japan and Philippines will be allies against China! How time reverses alignments!
Alan’s right…costs of maintaining big surface ships which are easy targets for Chinese missiles. Why not the modified (WW II style) PT-Boats – 20 boats with 150 HP in-board twin-engine each, with modern torpedoes & missiles? These can sink larger Chinese warships in close encounters at shallow waters.
Anybody here recall what’s the last line in Lupang Hinirang? Even if Japan provides us with 1,000 state of the art patrol ships what’s the use of it to a nation of cowards? We fight with what we have. When push comes to shove we shove back or even throw the first punch. Sadly this administration and the previous ones failed miserably to defend our territorial integrity. Diplomacy has it’s limits. If we do not know when to fight to protect what we consider is ours, then we will never know how. Ever.
As in repressed memories out of fear? Fear to fight? I think now is the time to try to recall these bad memories. If you can’t fight your own battle who will?
As in bad education perhaps. And the situation is far from needing saber rattling and threats of violence. Or blowhard bragadoccio bravado. It needs firmness and moving forward to pursue Philippine interests as if China were not even there.
As is being done.
Lots of fancy words, are you implying China or someone else? China’s been doing most of the saber rattling, if firmness means resolving the situation without putting on the table the option to (at some point) sacrifice lives.
Someone just peed on Aquino’s billiard table and he’s just standing there contemplating- should I just continue playing as if nothing happened or should I whack this guy with my pool stick?
A thousand warships is not the answer.
See my comment 4 below. Knee jerk is not good strategy. Firm is.
It’s way too late for a knee jerk strategy, though it’s better late than never at all. Hat’s off to Vietnam.
@eric, regarding stopping a protest that would inflame Chinese sentiments . . . it is clear that you and the Aquino administration have different levels of tolerance, and different approaches. The distinction is that they have to live with results and you do not. I wouldn’t vote for you, for sure.
Oh, I think they do live with the results they create. You are the one who doesn’t.
Think, Eric, think. Terrorists want to murder people, China wants oil.
I can’t vote, but I can influence. My wife worships the intellectual ground upon which I walk, and all her friends are in awe. Go figure . . .
Glad you’re not running . . .
Okay Joe, can I join your wife and her friends “In Awe of Joe Fan Club” and worship the intellectual ground upon which you walk? Please say yes before I hit the sack.
ahahahaha. sure. Sweet dreams.
Thank you Joe.
And most Americans pick their noses and are arrogant. The trick is to elect the good ones into office.
@fed_up…sad to share. We had a real museum…Corrigidor Island! But some ‘rats’ gnawed and sawed off the barrels of those cannon-mortars to sell at junk yards! No watchers there?
Philippine AFP security at it’s best or worst! Filipinos are not yet [as I sense it] sold to putting our ‘museums’ like US and European countries, etc.
We need a good education on this to and for our YOUTH. For us, some and many seniors who are corrupts, wala na yan pag-asa. See, lawmakers make more money specially X’mas times, gifts there and here atbpa!
That’s bizarre to me. The schools spend time making kids memorize dates and heros but none of it seems to soak in as pride in who we are and what we’ve come through. Rather, that pride gets hung on Jessica Sanchez. There are a lot of complaints about the past, and it is leveraged for argument sake, but it is not preserved. Like I said, bizarre. The reason to preserve is to reflect. That is, to think.
@Joe Am…scary the young generations…using these latest machines- gadgets to think for them rather than the machines asking “What do you think?”
@Eric…that’s a long story to look “who’s to blame” which we all know who! It’s the “now” what to do and can do, and not what happened in the past.
Not asking who’s to blame, just asking why are we like this? Now.
Filipinos are not revolutionary-types. Lookit the passport office. It is the BUSIEST GOVERNMENT OFFICE !!!
Lookit all the embassy offices, Filipinos lined up to get out of the country.
These “patriotic” Filipinos would rather be in Hong-Kong-run-by-Chinese than in the Philippines-run-by-Filipinos.
have you tried dating them?
@Mariano…Cannot blame them. Pragmatic actions rather than idealistic ones. Hunger hath no respect for anything or anybody. An empty stomach gets a lot of unbearable pains, even a good Army can surrender because of hunger, disregarding discipline. How much more ordinary citizens.
Can’t blame them. Wish ’em luck swerte SWERTE as you say.
@Eric…’ang mama…mama…dah liin’….dah…? Makawat na lang tayo!
Yes. McArthur protected the monarchy like Admiral Dewey protected the Spaniards. If Dewey allowed Filipinjos to enter Manila, Spaniards are totally headless with their hands in the air.
Americans are humanist people like all descendants from Europe.
I do agree I trust Japan more than China.
Any race of people can do its worst! Depending on the situation and reasons for it. The American Indians were almost wiped out by the White American leadership.
European Kingdoms the same. African countries-dictators likewise.
The human race is the most dangerous and cruelest beast on earth.
My most immediate problem with history books here is how they’ve disgracefully ignored the Marcos dictatorship, its crimes, depradations and body count. As a result we have a generation of Filipinos utterly ignorant of the bestiality of the Martial Law regime and the Marcos family and its cronies
@Mariano…like a gladiator? Yes, you’re right. I saw one statue of Lapu-Lapu like he came from a Arnold Z.’s gym! ala Mr. Universe.
What about putting here a photo of him, if you have, that Lapu-Lapu look lilliputin…4’5″ small, weigh 98 lbs, brownish skin, long or brush-cut hair [like Arnold Z] black eyes, no bandana on forehead, one hand with forefinger pointing at Magellan and saying “C’mon! I’m herrrr…Do itch…Do shitch…Dooo etch..” of course in Cebuano translation. [Arnold otra vez]. Do you or can you have that photo?
@M…are you sure it was a Rizal course? You keep repeating it? Hmmm…sounds like it’s not.
Maybe not cowards but Pinoys sure have fragile egos.
… IT IS OK TO DREAM …. dreaming is escaping from reality …..
DREAMS MY COME TRUE in other countries but NEVER CAN HAPPEN IN THE PHILIPPINES ….
Come to Papa ….
Papa Ketchup?
Not until we can manufacture our own Noodles instead of importing it from Korea, I’d be fairly comfortable doing R&D on nuclear sub. But to make nuclear sub quiet, we have to tap state-of-the-art propeller that is to-secret manufactured by GE.
I doubt U.S. Defense Department would allow GE to sell this top-of-the-line state-of-the-art super-secret submarine propeller to Philippines. Philippines leaks like a sieve. We’ll never know, Philippines might hire a Chinese guy to install it for us.
I went to SM last night, they have batchoy noodles FILLED WITH MSG. Yech !!!!
You mean that, or do you just say that to every sailor you meet on the seafront bars?
@Renato Mariano Pacifico
I thought you said in your posts that you are living abroad (?) and send remittances to your relatives here in the Philippines. But only last night you said you went to SM for batchoy noodles, nasaan ka ba talaga? Your claim of living somewhere is as confusing as your posts and claim of being nationalistic and patriotic.
I recall some of the trolls during the corona impeachment who kept posting confusing messages.
Could he be aligned with the “Concerned American Canyon Neighbors”?
If I tell you where I am at currently would have a bearing of what I have to say ?
This answers Alan’s confusion about my post on domicile .
Now, Alan, you got your answer.
Our esteemed guest belongs to the expatriot Filipino category called Latrine American
…maybe Mariano got a limousine UFO for traveling at lightning speed. Or he got bi-locution energy.
:?
I thought the Latrine Doctrines are serious enough to require multitude of postings.
to loosen up…
better sign up to be the first ever Filipino astronaut…
latrines in space will also be first!
I like lucky me noddles dried fried with papa ketchup he he he
@mac….that’s frink ‘Dles! Hmmm…bagon menu sa Mac’SPEW.
…Wrong! …that it can’t happen here.
Pigafetta said, Magellan step off the Galleon :) Totally false. I checked Google Map, Mactan Island and Cebu is so close that you do not even need Galleon to go there just outrigger and you’d be there in 5 minutes.
What actually happened was Magellan tripped over and was shotted by Lapu-Lapu.
HERE IS ANOTHER MUST READ FROM ME.
Filipinos are MALAS because Lapu-lapu killed the Messenger of Jesus Christ without provocation. From then on, THE MALAS PERPETUATED ITSELF, because Filipnos celebrate the killing of MESSENGER OF JESUS CHRIST by THEIST LAPU-LAPU.
THAT IS WHY MALAS TALAGA ANG MGA FILIPINOS.
Latrines all cleaned?
…Wrong again! Pigafalsetta is or was a friend of our bishops and priests here. So, he wrote erroneously to embarrass Lapu-Lapu! LL said “MALAS TALAGA YUN KASTILA!” The sands here in Mactan when one steps on it, sinks you! That’s why MagDellan tripped! Pigafalsetta never deboarded from the galleon.That’s why he didn’t know about the Mactan shores.
Try going to Mactan Island shores, try the sands. I did. It’s like the Sands of Iwo Jima! You sink stepping on it!
Ha ha ha! …said Lapu-Lapu.
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Tama ka Leona. Si Lapulapu naka-yapak o naka-paa lang. Si Magellan kuntodo boots. Bakal pa yata. Pagyapak sa buhangin eh hindi na makakilos. Yun kinawawa ni Lapulapu. Engot kasi si Magellan. Hindi muna inalam ang “terrain”. Si Lapulapu naman eh dumistansya sa hindi abot ng bala ng kanyon. Kaya yun napilitang bumaba mula sa barko de giyera si Magellan. And the rest is history.
@Rene…bakit si LL di lumubog sa buhangin kung si Magellan lumubog sa bakal na boots nya?
…kasi ang mga paa ni LL ay kasing LAPAD …L A P A D ng isang dangaw ng kamay mo! ‘rehas ng snow shoes gamit walking on snow!
True
Philippines was treated quite shabbily by the US afyer WW 2
Do you know why?
Parekoy, I appreciate the history snapshot. I’m part way through a journey of self discovery on this, provoked by Raissa’s comment, and you fill in a lot of the blanks for me. I may take some excerpts for the blog I’m doing on it. Right now, I’d say post WWII is characterized by the meddling hand of America (MacArthur, for one) and the endless and violent divisions within the Philippines. Thanks for the briefing.
In the book Under the Stacks, President Roxas didn’t keep his end in prosecuting Japanese collaborators and instead gave them amnesty. General MacArthur didn’t like this.
I prefer to look at the bright side. Things improve incrementally. For instance, you left the country
I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU, ALAN.
Since I left the Filipinos exponentially improve from 64,000,000 to squabbling backstabbing 94,000,000 in a matter of 7 years despite their tearing down of sexy billboard along EDSA.
Are babies n the PHilippines manufactured in the same messy dirty traditional way? Or, are they delivered by FedEx ?
hit a nerve?
…@Mariano…USA do not like us. We have no need for their VIAGRA which make ’em a lot of money! We’re natural in…natural out! We increase more without that V. That’s ‘Vevil’ for simple ‘Pinoy folks! Mahal pa!
..How? Imagine, 1 can of Salmon sardine for 29 Filipino soldiers while each American G.I. had one for him! Pres. Quezon yelled…PUNETA! [enye yun ‘N’…Kastila kasi si presidente.]
Why treated shabbily? ‘Cause many Filipino soldiers disobeyed the order to surrender. They went to guerrilla warfare instead. The majority of Americans surrendered, so many of them died in Capas, Tarlac, POW camp.
Right now all we can smell is Don Mariano, and it ain’t aromatic I’ll tell you dat
Thank you Mr. Prime Minister. I have always been anti-Japanese but am seriously rethinking that now because of your nice gesture of gifting us with 10 state-of-the-art Coast Guard ships. More power to you. We are all in this together, against the big bad wolf. And thank you, Mr. President, for making all you do towards putting arms in our Armed Forces.
Don’t thank anyone yet unless you’ve read the fine print. “There’s no such thing as a free meal.” Somebody somewhere is paying for it maybe with large interest.
Not gift.
It’s development aid.
An obligation to be paid in the future or for graciousness on both sides? Either way, it’s okay.
How does this development square with the push being made by Japan for our government to adapt the Japanese broadcast standard instead of the European standard?
@docbebot…Japanese broadcast here…okay! We know how to ‘mix’ their language with ours…like “Ngayun, KURA KURA!…maagang HAPON! Nisei GABI NA!…” okay yan…To close broadcast…”Paalam SAYO NA RA eh!.”
if it’s true some Japanese companies pulled out from China to relocate in PH…
then Japan wants to protect investments.
Japan relocating to expensive-currency Philippines when Japan PM just recently was mulling about devaluing their strong yen.
There’s no such thing as free lunch (more so in international relations). Japan’s altruism will work to its better interest. But I hope the Philippines won’t give up too much.
I’m attending a press briefing tomorrow of the Japanese FM and our FM where questions are not allowed to be asked.
This is food for thought.
It is not press briefing after all. It is pure propaganda by Japanese FM. The fine prints are not there for Rappler to see.
Tell you what, even with the absence of FOI, the fine prints will come out courtesy of Mr. Anonymous and that Little Lady in Red Riding Hood.
Let us bide our time. Filipinos cannot hold secrets.
how do you manage such cosmically brilliant analysis all the way from where you are? do you use very big binoculars?
Raissa, could you at least ask why questions are not allowed?
Good luck Raissa! Break the protocol ! – I hope you can DO IT! C’mon Do it! I’m herrrr!…Zwarzn the goV!…movie predator 1
@Mafe…how ‘much’ is not ‘too much?”
as a matter of fact we SHOULD worry if the US becomes too interested in this region because we could wind up getting crushed like a nut between two gigantic powers. The US govt has already announced a “pivot” to Asia that will see it deploying at least 60 per cent of its navy in the region by the end of the decade
@Alan…right! USA must have a trick on that! Shall we ‘treat or trick?”
the US will not openly admit it but strategists will call it “containment” of a rising rival superpower
China is not militarily a superpower what the U.S. is afraid of is the BOND BOMB. Once China drops U.S. Bond Holdings, U.S. economy goes into tailspin.
It is the economic might of China that scares the U.S.
My banking experience is that the person holding the debt gets punished in a bankruptcy, Not the company who borrowed the money. The company still has assets and just sells some of them to get new capital. The lender jumps off a high building, or a great wall, as the case may be.
@M…Deng Shao Peng would resurrect and yell ‘What in hell’s name have you done allowing US of A filing for bankruptcy! Now, we get paid $30M than our $1+Trillion dollars!’
Who knows, Congress might just do that, knowing their own laws on bankruptcy! And start anew.
The Philippines would risk get rolled like a drunk in a dark alley if the US did not pivot. I actually see the Philippines as doing a good job of managing the two giants, and becoming more respected in the doing of that. The Philippines is not helpless, and this everpresent notion of the Philippines as victim ought to be the first value that is migrated from “cherished” to “junkpile of dysfunctional ideas”.
it really depends on who the national leaders happen to be. For instance, the last Administration could hardly wait to sell us out to the Chinese. This administration is more firm. Whether a country behaves like a “victim” or not (another pointless remark is “whining”, as if entire countries whine) ultimately doesn’t matter in the face of cold geopolitics. Being heroic and canny didn’t save Finland and the Baltic countries from being invaded by the USSR. Small is small.
As if entire countries are ignoring the plight of the Jews in wartime Germany. Yes, any generalization like that is wrong.
It is better to be small and purposeful than small and looking for excuses or doing other deeds that distract from purpose.
The Filipinos will roll into an egg roll into hot boiling cooking oil …
Corruption is in many forms. It can be stealing money. In USA different form of stealing. In ‘Pinas different form too. But both stealing money happens in both governments. So, we do not compare or gauge from USA or any other country. Lobby money, same. Padrino system, same…US has also this. All countries have their own corruptions but it’s all the same: MONEY OF THE PEOPLE IS STOLEN OR POCKETED…illegally and unlawfully!
Americans withdraws from Afghanistan like Russians. Because Afghanis cannot be domisticated. They are still wild dogs.
Americans will be wagging their pointing fingers and admonish Filipinos: “I told you not to do it, you did it, now, look at”
@leona…like my son talking to his 4 year old…”Look at me when I’m talking to you!”
Do it! C’mon Do it! Do it I’m here! Do it!…predator…Zwarze the go’V.
I dont think we pinoys are looking for free lunch. no one can cook adobo or paksiw like we do. they give us free lunch, we give them free lunch, then we seize each other, see what we have in common. and we’ll take it from there.
China is almost desperate in the “divide ASEAN and conquer” strategy. It is easier bullying people if they are by themselves. It is more difficult to bully a gang. But the ASEAN states are too nervous to be seen together.
But China is picking fights in a north to south arc: with Japan and South Korea, with Taiwan, with the Philippines and Vietnam (and maybe Malaysia) — and in the background with the US and even India, so it is not doing itself any strategic favors, instead it’s embarking on a course of wish fulfillment like Germany before World War I. Believing it’s encircled it goes about making that encirclement come true (I’ve been gathering materials to write an essay about this aspect)
I look forward to the essay. I’m no shrink, but I’d venture a guess that China, as a personality, is conflicted. And she is a big beast that needs to be fed lots of resources.
Alan@ 13.1
My impression is that Zheng He was more of an ambassador of goodwill than a war general out to conquer the world. But maybe he was both an ambassador and an aggressor asking tributes from various tribes and kingdoms by means of bully tactics that China is now employing on us. So you are damn right. China merely wants to “draw water from our wells”. Or maybe oil.
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Of course not. And the alternative is to fight. How? My post on this is awaitng moderation since 8:31 a.m.
@RI…still the ‘fighting post’ being moderated? A moderated fight!
@Alan…surrender was to ‘saved’ more men but the trick by Gen. Homma, et al., was to starve all of them to death! The Death March was the first of the tricks. So, many POWs did die of starvation later. Would it have been worth dying fighting or during the Death March to Capas, Tarlac, or dying starving in POW camps? Easy for me to say ’cause I wasn’t there! But, damn right I would have fought than die of starvation…the unbearable pain of hunger is …?
NO! Rene-IPIL. I have a goot idea. THIS WORKS !!!
Why not give BIR examiners a percentage commission for every revenue they raise. That works with Customs people, too. And traffic enforcers.
That should work. If it worked for salesmen and women, it should work with the government.
…why not? But it will be abused…more quota more percentage commission. One in USA, a lady State Police did that. She was fired and facing criminal actions from hundreds they ticketed drivers, some for DUIs.
Increase 1000% salary? Why not? But BIR must collect 1000% also! Customs the same. Etc. Somebody up here – @letlet – gave it on Singapore style.
@VL…ang sweldo ng isang RTC judge ay below P40th/month. Isang ‘venta’ ng kaso…P1-2M…Judiciary’s budget is a pea …What can a judge do with P40th or lower as salary? Be corrupt! That’s what can do. Not all of ’em btw…some and many some!
I am all in favor of giving them higher salary. They are not there as PUBLIC SERVANT they are there because government employment is employment of last resort.
@M…P100th a month? The gov’t will have to create more courts as many lawyers like to become a judge! So your dream comes true…no more lawyers but all judges!
Finally, change of tune.
Phiippine Navy ships sinking/stranded in the sea for defective anchors
that is why Philippine Navy fighting song is
Anchors Away.
Japan donating to Noynoy Aquino government state of the art submarines
New Philippine Navy fighting song:
Yellow Submarine
He he he
@Johnny,
Thanks.
I reminisce my childhood days when my dad often played military music.
“Anchors Aweigh” and “Semper Fidelis” are favorites…
http://melaman2.com/music/navy_music.html
You are saying that our Submarine will be painted YELLOW ? Like that drone found in Masbate that collided with Robredo’s plane ?
As we live a life of ease
Every one of us has all we need
Sky of blue and sea of green
In our yellow submarine
@Johnny Lin…maybe the ANCHORS are twice much bigger than the ‘ships’ !
Maybe you’ll find this interesting to put things in perspective http://www.marcandangel.com/2009/07/13/50-questions-that-will-free-your-mind/
Military power in Southeast Asia:
http://www.economist.com/node/21551056
The Art of War was written by Sun Tzu hundreds of years before Christ was even born. The Chinese know all the tricks in the book. They know what they are doing. The question to ask is does our government know what they are doing? Are they prepared to any eventuality.
Of course, the Chinese knew … You can go to Americ a’s military surplus sites. There you can shop from Vietnam era hellicopters to 1940 American stuka.
I do not go to inquirer anymore . they did not ban, blocked or ex-commjunicate me. I BANNED THEM !!!! HWWR! HAR! HAWR!
Their commentators over there are bunch of ignorant minimum-wage working class people.
“the Chinese knew”? weeeeh…eh ano pa yung pinasasabi mong “National Secret”? see, malabo pa sa ilog pasig mga argumento mo. Wag kasing puro Ofrah ang pinapanuod mo….hahahaha…malamang si Vice Ganda maaliw sayo hahahha.
someone owes that PMA-trained tsuper an apology…hehehe
…@Mariano…The saying of the AFP “What You Hear Here Leave It Here” is not followed by all members of AFP and maybe MEDIA too! I don’t know if what the tsuper said is true. Did the Pentagon or US Navy confirm it? Do a trick then [give a sample to one to the Chinese Navy]…let’s see if the trick will work.
@leona…I remember Joseph the Shepherd boy who volunteered to fight GOLIATH…the boy applied a simple trick as the boy didn’t have the equal might and size, etc. of the giant…boy making steps around until the Sun was at his back…right moment…released the stone from the sling hitting the giant on the forehead who dropped dead! End of story. A trick! Useful trick.
it was david @ leona…:)
See the wrong trick…@vander…my wrong trick! Right you are!
It was in the “major” Philippine dailies. Alan can confirm because his wife is in the tres-e-media.
@M…that Coastguard tsuper was ‘waterboarded’ before he was dismissed! He’s still wet up to now.
Anyone who is at all familiar with defense and aerospace technology knows you can buy the expensive books published by Jane’s (they also publish magazines) that list ALL of the world’s warships in excruciating detail (including of course those of the Chinese navy). For the budget conscious there’s Wikipedia. There are no secrets.
Dwefinitely, dragging America to war with China over two specks of useless rocks will throw them OVER THE FISCAL CLIFF. Americans are smart enough not to be dragged by 93,999,999 crybabies to war.
hehe hold it pansit…ayan na naman yang masyado mong sinasantong Uncle Sam. That’s your usual theme: America the almighty and Juan de la Cruz na basahan. Stop it my man…you’re breaking my heart hahaha. Just watch TFC, oh wait…I forgot you dont watch that trash, you’d rather watch Ofrah Winprey hahaha…or Ellen Degenerous hahaha…lab u fafi hahahha
you dont watch Ofrah? come on, you’re jokening me naman eh, Ofrang-Ofrah mga materials mo: “poor me, I dont heb pointy-pointy nose like Piolo, it’s goot Uncle Sam took me in, now I dont heb to lib with those eskinol beauties…theyre so kadiri!”
hehehe
I like your englischtzes. You copied it from me? That is absolutely plagiarizing.
Comparing Ofrah-rah-rah versus Ellen ? I’d pick Ellen all-the-time. She’s a hottie.
Eh, paano yan?
Lucio Tan, Concepcions, Cojuancgcos, Gokongwei, Henry Sy, “Papa Chen and Sir Chief” are all of Chinese blood who have controls on Philippine Economy will be forced to make a choice. while our strength as a Filipino could only be relied upon the wisdom of Enteng Kabisote, Agimat and Amaya?
Most Filipinos too who claimed to be Christians yet believing more in Feng Shue ( A pure Chinese belief)…do you think we can really stand against China specially if USA is profiting more from them than from us?
“didn’t give a hoot” is a little strong. Roosevelt desperately wanted to enter the war but didn’t have the backing of Congress which was isolationist. Sometimes in democracy you don’t get what you want, but you generally eventually get what you need. To portray the US engagement in WWII as foolish and greedy is flippant and unfair to those who died fighting, and those who dedicated their lives to the war. That war was not personal only to Filipinos.
“Allies indifference”. It is important to know who knew what when, which is a matter of some intricacy and argument. And it is important to know that many passionate voices within Western nations were not refected in the decisions taken by the leaders. I think, when the facts were revealed (facts that are denied by some even today), there is no question the world was stunned at the magnitude of the cruelty. That magnitude was not fully understood, I believe. And to paint the Allies as complicit in the deed would be incorrect.
The US did not emerge as the uncontested superpower, or what’s a cold war for? The US gained by determined, all-consuming effort . . . underscore effort, not gift or luck . . . to create a monster industrial war machine. That machine provided the foundation for global economic domination, not military.
Yes, I agree with both your statements. Thanks for wrapping up the discussion so well.
(Note to self: when debating Alan, bring history books along . . .)
JoeAm, you are damn right. I got my lesson also somewhere.
“Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.”
Lord Palmerston
Me too @Joe Am…let’s join our forces vs Binay & his UNAgang. And stay cool Joe!
This comment is ridiculous and my steamed rebuttal is in moderation.
The Philippines was more important than millions of jews being hauled off to the gas chamber? Give me a break. Such an overblown sense of self importance.
The US is supposed to put Filipino self-interest ahead of US self interest? What, the Philippines is God’s country? The center of the universe, like my 4 year old son when he is thowing a self-consumed hissy fit?
The cheap shot about money sounds exactly like my ignorant neighbors filled with envy anger because I have money and they don’t, so they throw nails in the road for the tires of the guy who could be helping them. Rather like throwing Americans out of military bases and then wanting them to run kissy kissy to help the Philippines when need arises.
I guess Roosevelt should have just turned war management over to the Philippines so it would have been done right.
Hey, Mariano, my friend, I like your style. Type a comment and hit submit without second thought. Cool. Screw the diplomacy.
I cannot do that anymore, Joe. I am now treated as one of CPMers’ own not an outsider but a prodigal son that came back to the fold of civility :)
RIP brother.
The quick-witted leona could be naughty at times. With sharp mind and rattling keyboard, leona doesn’t mince words, and in the process ramming anyone in the way…harmless in intention, I should say. Leona is kind, nice, humane and a non-violent person…saludo ako.
Who doesn’t get frustrated? Who among us is saint?
Interesting exchange.
Yeah, and i got more brain power in this exchange than i did in one semester of History 112. Wish i could be more cerebral in my comments like these people…
Philippines will support rearming by pacifist Japan in order to counterbalance China.
Japan is a goot ally because Japan got a beef against Nanking Rape and reconstituting their history books that it never happened just a figment of Japan’s imagination.
@Mariano…nice! Chinese leadership takes on Japan who never have sincerely apologized for what they did to the Chinese people specially in Nanking rape. The Japanese officials only apologize to Japanese people when they blunder in their actions and not to anybody else! Have they apologized to us or USA? I never read about it or ….But the Japanese knows they have to live among nations, so apology to them may not be that important to extend. Thanks.
The Japanese has not apologized to our comfort women, too.
Why Japanese sudden interest in Philippines welfare?
Why Philippine sudden acceptance of Japanese offer when they have not unequivocally apologized to our women?
Did Japan pay reparation damages to us?
Something is wrong here. Terribly wrong. Is it possible Japan wanted war at our shores instead of theirs?
…@M…maybe they like to do it sexeap like before it was not even “ty.’
Really good point. The U.S. has major initiatves going, offense and defense.
Maybe the Philippines should stick with paper.
@moonie,….cyberspace WAR were all originated from computer or without those micro-chips we can not speak of cyberspace to date……. Try to research the identity of the Americans who first broke the ATM machines in your country . Discover their lineages or nationalities first and you might come into position that FILIPINOs can fight a cyberspace war in due time without ” PAKIKIALAM ” ng USA instead, THEM giving their technology and assistance. ( ayaw nila , dahil talagang madamot ang USA sa atin )
Pumpboat diplomacy ….
You favorite combination. Sailors. And pumps
the goals will be the same — cripple or flatten the enemy. The techniques will be more varied. Btw, supposedly having a high capability for cyberwar has not stopped China from implementing plans to to build a bluewater navy to support its “island chains” doctrine of offensive-defense
http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2012/01/05/japan_mulls_rearming_to_defend_itself_99827.html
…@leona…With such wastage of people’s money, it’s like crying in the wilderness…John the Baptist !
Before we can face China, we have to face this things with our gov’t leaders and officials! What a lamentable task ahead for our people! And here, we are all blogging while they the few are enriching themselves.
Savings in a year should mean lesser allocation the following year.
…that’s ‘compounded stealing!”
the more the merrier…
@leona,
savings ang tawag nila. madali lang gawin yun. bloat your budget. don’t spend on necessary things. presto, may savings!!! parte-parte na!!!
luvya MDS. may pakinabang ka rin naman. kundi pa naagrabyado sa partihan…
kung natuloy ang ZTE, baka ang PHL ay mas maagang masasakop…
@moonie,
kung natuloy ang ZTE, baka ang PHL ay mas maagang masasakop…
TRUE @Vander …… Mapapaaga ang pagsakop talaga….but the the TRANSCO contracts awarded to the CHINESE Firms so as the passing of RA declaring scarborough shoal only regime of island , not incorporated to the Baseline Theory to mainland Philippines were pay offs by RP to China in aborting the ZTE contract.
Effectively the Singaporean government is “bribing” its officials not to become corrupt.
Philippine President: US$ 28,000 (based on PHP 95,000/month)
Philippine Vice President US$ 16,200 (based on PHP 55,000/month)
Australia Prime Minister: US$ 520,650
I don’t think paying our politicians exorbitantly will stop corruption. Look at our corrupt officials, they do it big time….hundreds of millions to billions of pesos go to their pockets. The more they amass fortune, the more they become hungry of it…NO CONTENTMENT.
These people do not steal because they want to survive like the pickpockets of Quiapo. GANID LANG SILA TALAGA. Have I mentioned MARCOS, CORONA, ARROYO, etc. etc.?
Who was it who posted a comment here that said:
WEALTH CANNOT BE BROUGHTEN TO HEAVEN.
So what is the use of money ?
Dang, Now I got a virus from Alan’s 3 liners ….
I can increase it to four lines if you feel your absorption rate is up to it. Would that be too risky?
@letlet…do you think or believe if we do the same, increasing the salaries by 2000%, our gov’t officials will stop stealing and corrupting? Or they might just do some more of it?
There’s more than to that. Discipline, patriotism, dedication, love of country, sincerity, atbpa! Do our leaders have these traits, before, now and in the future?
Dito sa atin, garapalan ang gawa ng koruptions sa gobierno! Karumaldumal walang awa…as someone said @sprinwoodman yata…ANYTHING GOES!
… and phil. senators: 1.6M each (sa type bigyan ni jpe) pesos christmas gift from the senate president.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/338191/santiago-its-more-fun-to-be-a-senator
abs-cbnnews.com/nation/01/10/13/miriam-jpe-violated-equal-protection
@kalakala,
hahaha, umalma si mds. konti lang ang kaparte nya.
imho, even the president has no right na paghatihatian nila ang pera ng bayan.
maliwanag pa sa kulay ng hinyebra na pamasko ang ipinamigay ni Hapi Ka.
Hoooray !!!! Japan is on our side !!! Thank gootness.
Who will be in PHilippine side against Japan ?
A must see video http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?v=116035048564874&set=vb.286753951410972&type=2&theater
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvvrJxRXW4M&feature=youtube_gdata_player
@helena,
Tried to help you on your dissemination. The video was from New Tang Dynasty Television (ntdtv).
More on Loida Nicolas Lewis here:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Loida+Nicolas+Lewis+china+focus
@helena,
A faster download of the NTD Television video (China Focus with guest Loida Nicolas Lewis) will be linked above…
China is developing a “new” weapon to deal with US carrier fleets. It’s an ICBM — but whereas most ICBM’s on reentry are pretty much committed to the target they’re hitting (usually a geographical location), this shipbusting giant missile will CHANGE course and FOLLOW the carrier, being guided in its course by satellites, drones, radar and other automated external guidance systems (such as perhaps, fixed networks based on islands and reefs on the South China Sea?)
HAHA, well put JoeAm
While I agree that there are better things to do than bulk up for war, I have two words for you: “Mischief Reef” — read up on it
While I agree that the Philipines should defend its teritory with all means, it should be a priority for the Philippines to be taken serious by the Filipinos themself and the rest of the world. Your President is leading in this respect.
I have one question, what credibility did Erap, GMA have nationaly or in the rest of the world to make a point?
// Coming from the “Old Continent” I don’t understand all this old language of war, rekindling problems of or grandparents 70 years ago. // <– was the point I was addressing. I don't recall Erap and Gloria being mentioned at all, though I have plenty of things to say about both as well.
Yes.
Yes, telling nothiing new, but what do you think will have more inpact, the military build up or the growing respect for the Philippines economy and its presideint?
All I’m saying is keep your prioirties right, don’t get (ok I give in a little…) too much distracted by romantic war language.
@JosephIvo
Of course “growing respect for the Philippine economy and its president” has a great impact, but how can you sustain that economy if the very source of development is threatened because of weak security?
Think of non violent (romantic) confrontations instead. Ask some Chinese tai-pans here to go on hunger strike, send 100,000’s of letters to the world leaders, organize specific boycotts, organize a war for the areas on Google Earth, I’m not a specialist in non-violent actions, but there must be enough creativity CPM’ers.
@ Fed_up. Japan had a weak army, Germany had a weak army but both strong economies. The Soviet Union had a very strong army and very weak economy. What was sustainable?
The most ramshackle economy in Asia is that of North Korea’s, yet the country commands fear, respect and even terror from greater powers. Btw you’re editing yourself: your original argument was that China (and the world) would respect a strong economy better than a strong military, now you’re saying a strong economy is “more sustainable”.
I think better than strong economies and armies, what commands world attention and respect is good leadership and diplomacy
correct. in our locality alone, who are the most influential(and wealthy)?
those who are sufficiently armed.
arms build-up doesn’t mean we are going for war. it means we are not afraid of it…
@ Alan.(missed out a part) Don’t think that North Korea is a good example. What territorial claims are they defending from whom? What did they achieve apart from starving their own people? Their strength for the time being is only the Chinese umbrella. East Germany collapsed the day Russia folded its umbrella.
@JosephIvo. “I have one question, what credibility did Erap, GMA have nationaly or in the rest of the world to make a point?” I have the answer to your question: Because of our religious training and culture of “forgive and forget”. We Filipinos are made to believe that it is divine to “forgive and forget.”
i may forgive. but forget, nahhh…
The world stopped building “battleships” 60 years ago (although it’s possible to argue that one or two of the existing large Russian units are battlecruisers). A coast guard unit is not a battleship.
As I said, the goal of any military program, in combination with alliances, would be to make us unpleasant to conquer so China will think carefully
@Mariano…if England gave up the Las Malvinas Islands or Faulklands, do you think now at 2013 England should re-take them from Argentina? Or maybe in another 10 years from now? Just a point of asking…I do not know ‘who really owns Faulklands except that the British are in possession of it.’ Based on what, ancient maps? I don’t know for sure. It’s 8,000 miles from London that’s what I know. It’s about 500 miles east from Argentina. But no Argentinians are living in Faulklands. Only British, et al.
Filipinos plunder Filipinos more than Americans plunder them. Give up the victim stance and you won’t get plundered by anyone. And yes, America looks out for American interests, no different than any other country. The trick for the Philippines is to act and negotiate so that America finds it in their best interest to help the Philippines grow strong. You don’t achieve that aim by attacking and criticizing America. And you can do the same with China, which I what I would advise. Use the tension between the giants but stay in charge. Don’t whimper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO6hEsM-NDs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
@helena,
As stated below in your Comment No. 22, here is another uploaded copy of the NTD Television China Focus episode featuring Loida Nicolas Lewis.
I appreciate the information. Thanks.
@baycas. thanks very much for sharing us loida’s video above; after knowing her, i got the urge to change my handle.
@helena,
Going back to Ms. Raissa Robles’ questions in April last year:
With China’s ambivalence, who knows?
For we are uncertain of her primary interest:
Petrol from the region, Power over the region, Peace in the region, Piece of the region or, could it be, the entire Philippines???
A refresher here:
http://raissarobles.com/2012/04/23/why-get-so-riled-up-over-some-rocks-under-the-sea/
Thanks for reposting this pc
@helena @baycas
China is in Africa because of the oil. The West Philippine sea which is so rich in natural resources and nearer to the China mainland is the main reason why they want to occupy that part of the Phillipine territory.
That’s development aggression.
@baycas…is it Philippines’ posture that “For we are uncertain of her [China] primary interest”? …or we should categorically as apparent as it appears that China’s interest are the natural treasure like Petrol from the region, even the Gas resources?
I find some substantial ‘weakness’ on one’s stand as “uncertain” rather than being certain. Anyway, errors if there be, on such categorical posture won’t do much harm. More harm is a disadvantage to one’s posture when one is uncertain in one’s argument or opposition to another’s action. My opn.
@ joe america
I absolutely agree with you that Flipinos plunder Filipinos most than americans, that alone is the most stumbling block in the development and betterment of the Philippines and its people. Quo vadis, patriotism?
sad scenario indeed …
@let let……. What are your valid proof’s that we Filipino’s plundered our fellow Filipino’s more than the American’s who plundered our Country since the year1900 let let.
Honestly , I dis-agree with you so us the assesstment of @Joe America…….point by point lay down your basis here and we will discus it intelligently on Raissas BLOG.
If join force seriously with japan australia india and us we can easily expel china