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By Raïssa Robles
Students, be aware.
The globe you might be using for your geography lessons might have China’s nine-dash line markings to show the world it owns all of South China Sea.
According to China, this includes Scarborough Shoal and the Recto Bank where the Philippines recently found huge gas deposits.
I did not stumble on this story. It was handed to me by a group of concerned Filipinos, one of whom – telecoms engineer David Valencia – took the trouble to e-mail me.
Alan went to National Book Store to see the globes for himself and saw them selling quite cheaply.
A small one costs P98.00 while the bigger one is P198.00. They are easily dented and damaged and have a wobbly fit in their stands. The nine-dash line is prominently marked and even encloses Taiwan. In contrast, a globe made in the United States – and sold in the same store for ten times more or 2000 pesos – does not show any lines in the South China Sea.
International law expert Harry Roque laughed when asked to comment about the globes. He said China “wants the world to believe it owns (all of) South China Sea. It’s good we already filed for arbitration” before the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea.
UP law Professor Roque also said the unwitting purchase and use of such globes would not bolster China’s case because the book store is not a state agency. But this may harm the store’s reputation – “now schoolchildren may have to be forewarned that not everything it sells is accurate.”
A bookstore official told me they were never aware of the nine-dash markings. But now they are. She said they were open to pulling them off the shelves.
I have made the slide presentation below on what Valencia and his friends found out and what my hubby Alan and I found out.
You can also read a separate story I filed on this in today’s issue of South China Morning Post by clicking on this link.
P.S. This is NOT the piece I’ve been working on since last week and which I promised you. It’s coming soon. Thanks for your patience.
I found this on the internet: Chinese media accidentally declares Philippines as part of of China
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9253826/Chinese-media-accidentally-declares-Philippines-as-part-of-China.html
NBS recalled all the china globes.
what will NBS do with those bazooras? return or trash?
bakit di na lang harapin ng tsina ang usapin sa int’l tribunal?
marami pa silang maiisip na ideya at gagawing gimik para maangkin nang tuluyan ang teritoryo natin.
nararamdaman na nila ang pagka-ubos ng kanilang resources kaya ganyan na ang ginagawa nila.
ibenta ba naman nila ng pagkamura-mura. ngayon napapamura na sila, pati naman ako napapamura na rin.
let us all be vigilant. baka makatulad tayo ng mga Kuwaiti na isang Huwebws ng umaga, aug.2, 1990, ay nagising silang nasakop na ng mga Iraqi.
Salamat po sa walang sawa nyong pagsusulat para madagdagan ang aming kaalaman sa mga nangyayari sa ating bansa..
Walang anuman.
While we have all the rights to fight for what we claim we own. There is just a question of what is really real from these claims.
Is the Philippines a sovereign country on its own before the Spaniards named it as Philippines or merely a trade route from China to Malaysia.? A route that may either be owned by either of the two or divided into two groups of islands.
At any rate, I honestly lost my concern about what the Philippines can own or not at this point in time. while I see that a quick buck scheme of many Filipinos includes selling off their properties to foreigners with our government not seeing what happens in the future of the country whee someday we just wake up and see that the Philippines is no longer ours. They even have to resort to be married to a foreigner just to have money and the pride to be married to someone who can afford a life in luxury at the expense of the nation who always proudly says, ‘It is great to be A Filipino”.
If you are Filipino before and now a foreigner , your doubts can be answered by yourself. Identify yourself first before we give commments on your query.
Lagi kong binabasa mga article mo ms raissa syempre kasma nadin mga comments ..
Salamat.
Sali ka sa mga diskusyon dito.
The distrinbutor/ supplier/ seller of these products is violating our law :
RA 7394 – The Consumer Act of the Philippines – Title III – Protection against Deceptive, Unfair, and Unconscionable sales act or practices
Chapter I Article 48 – DEclaration of Policy – The state shall promote and encourage fair, honest and equitable relations among parties in consumer transactions and protect the consumer against defective, unfair and unconscionable sales acts or practices. Grossly inimical to the interest to the consumer or grossly one in favor of the producer/ manufacturer or distributor.
In determining whether an acy or practice is unfair and unconscionable, the following cicumstances shall be considered:
a) that the producer, manufacturer, distributor, seller took advantage of the inability of the consumer to reasonably protect his interest because of his inability to understand the language of an agreement or similar factors.
c) that when the consumer transaction was entered into, the consumer was unable to receive a substantial benefit from the subject of transaction
Chapter V – Liability for Product and Service
Article 100- The supplier of durable or nondurable consumer products are jointly liable for imperfections in quality that under the products unfit or inadequate for consumption which they are designed or decrease their value, and for those resulting from inconsistency with the information provided on the container or packaging
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The National Bookstore should be held liable for selling the deceptive and unfair globes to the consumers. It should have a solid knowledge on the product itis selling. It should have performed a product inspection to guarantee that the product is what is should be, not misinformed the consumer. As consumers, we the right to be protected against dihonest or misleading labeling / information.
Also, the globes when dented and broken could cause injury to the consumer because it is materially defective. It also a substandard product. Therefore the manufacturer/ distributor, supplier/sller fials to comply with the Philippine laws.
The product, globes, when sold to the consumers, especially to the Chinese students studying in Chinese schools could incite anti- nationalistic spirit against the Philippines as a whole.
latest development.
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/64415/national-bookstore-pulls-out-chinese-made-globes
http://www.interaksyon.com/business/55073/largest-ph-bookstore-chain-pulls-out-china-made-globes-reflecting-nine-dash-line
Huh…about time to rely on our own resources and products than to depend from cheap Chinese imports. If only these pork barrels are utilized properly, like allocating some portion for assisting Filipinos for business/industry start-ups… I am sure we can create our own globe and maps and school teaching aids businesses, and the products would be correct, timely, and accurate too. Trust it to these Chinese doing all kinds of short cuts in the name of profit and glory.
Time to whip up our nationalistic pride! We should be proud we are Pinoys at all times – not only during the Pacquiao winning bouts, or when our Miss U candidate is in top 5, lol!
tama ka @zamera,
paano ba naman sa mga nagdaang administrasyon ay wala nang ginawa ang kanilang mga kakutsabang mga commissioners kung hindi ang umangkat nang umangkat sa ibang nasyon.
kaya naman ultimong pansakahan natin ay halos malugmok sa paghihirap.
patay na halos ang ating industriya ng pagawaan.
kaya ang ating mga mamamayan ay nagkalat na sa buong mundo. laman ng mga balita ang pinoy sa bawat kaganapan sa ibat-ibang nasyon. kailan pa makakauwi nang tuluyan ang ating mga OFW’s upang dito na sa atin magtatrabaho at makapamumuhay ng marangal at disenteng buhay?
sa mga kaganapan at sakuna sa globo ay halos laging may napapasamang isa o ilang pinoy. ang mga drug mules, ang mga seafarers na nabibihag ng mga pirata, etc., etc…
tama lang na dagdagan pa natin ang pagsuporta sa mga magagandang ginagawa ng pamahalaan ni pnoy.
suportahan natin ang mga taong makatutulong niya sa pagsugpo sa mga manloloko at magnanakaw sa kabang-bayan…
On a lighter note, China-made products don’t usually stand the test of time. Less worries. :)
there are consumers advocary group around the world that ensured products sold are authentic and not harmful to humans. china did not always get away with faulty products. the makers of the tainted infant milk formula that contained melamine were arrested and as punishment, were executed and shot. the store that pretended to be apple electronic shop that sells only apple products that turned out to be fakes was closed.
I think we should mount a worldwide campaign to boycott the buying of those globes as it is offensively inaccurate and could serve as a propaganda vehicle for China !
@wyi5326…act on it…collect all, send via LBC with request to DROP ’em at “South Asia Sea…not ‘china.’ ” The PLA navy will surely see their globes floating against their ships!
good idea leona, but I’m not keen about the drop at sea. strong tide may push those globes back to us and pollute our shores. also, the plastic component of the globes may be toxic and harmful to marine life. marami na namang mga butanding ang mamamatay. some fishes, pagongs at pawikans are a bit stupid and eat up plastics na nakakabara sa bituka, at ikakamatay naman nila. the livelihood our fishermen fishing in those waters may also be affected. if I got one of those globes, I’ll return it and ask for refund.
those inaccurate globes should carry a warning like caution: this globe contained 9dash line. people might buy them for comparison, and out of curiosity. they may even keep them as curio. but that does not negate our stance to protect our shores, and keep invaders away. back off, china.
MALIGAYANG ARAW NG MGA PUSO SA LAHAT!!
HAPPY VALENTINES TO ALL!!
NARAGSAK A ALDAW TO PUSPUSO KADA KAYO AMIN!!
sa inyo mam raissa at sir alan. sa lahat ng CPMers na may pusong mapagmahal!!!
KASTA MET KENKA , Manang @pinay710, Happy Valentine TOO… Tagatno kade APO?
taga Bangued, Abra ak ading.
Nako po manang , GABRIELA… he he aglangay ka iti amin nga balasang ditoy Pilipinas ngem saan mo padpadasin iti taga ABRA manang….. naunget kayo ngem nasyaat nga AGAYAT lalong lalo na sa panahon ng ARAW ng mga PUSO…he he Happy Valentine uli sa iyo manang @pinay710
agpaysu ading ko. no agayat maimaisa lang, one and only, Pilipina ito ading dugong GABRIELA AT BALWEG.HAPPY VALENTINE met.
…i wish You All a very happy VALENTINE’s DAY! …specially to those just chec….ng out!
How about harmful chemicals?
Pwede [email protected], uranium waste from the Chinese Nuclear Power Plants and and other Nuclear facilities and weapons and equiptments.
The move by the present crops of leaders of the Mainland China in claiming all of the South China Sea (?) will surely accelerates in jeoperdizing the very existence, peaceful co-existense of the Chinese, whether they are Chinoys or Pintsiks, Koumintang or Commies, with the Filipino people. Are they wary of simmering adverse sentiments of Pinoys against Chinese, especially now that they are being blamed principally for the menace of the illegal drugs, prostitutions, smuggling, monopoly in all sectors of business & trading, the proliferations of fake, substandard and hazardous toys, cosmetics & foods that are all detrimental to the health of the consuming public and of other anti-social activities in the country? Are they waiting these thing to turn into a “racial war” ? Lest we all join hands, in understanding and bring solutions to the problem, we can doubly assure that this will surely happens. Or is this the real intentions, just like what the Japanese have done to our country during World War II ?
NO TO VOTE BUYING…
VOTE WISELY & INTELLIGENTLY….
HUWAG IBENTA ANG SAGRADONG BOTO…..AMEN….
@we have to [email protected]…. No to vote buying
Have you been to depressed areas or relocation site, can you tell that to the rural folks that are just waiting for dole outs specially during election time? how about to those jobless with an empty stomach?
What is the ratio of the poorest among the poor and to the one you call Cpmers?
this is also at the back of my mind, so the big challenge is how to make them fully aware of the offshoot of selling their votes time and time again in all facets of their lives
You have to try telling them your VOTE are not FOR SALE , to eliminate undesirables leaders that hinders the growth of our country. One person who will believe in you will multiply @clementejack otherwise ” Saan tayo pupulutin nyan ” ? Yes, I can tell them no to vote buying.
So sir @Rene , what will be our % of chances in re-acquiring that two contested area’s S.Shoal and Spratly’s legally at U.N.?
To tell the poorest not to sell their votes is easier said than done, something has to be done more than that to really open their eyes in the perils of selling their votes – remember they have empty stomach, ang taong gutom kumakapit sa patalim
tama mam letlet saka sabihin nila “SIGE NA LANG WALA NAMAN MANGYAYARI
for the poorest of the poor, there is a program called CCT, conditional cash transfer. it is the government’s help to help the poorest of the poor meet daily requirements. it’s not much but it’s there. on the condition that recepients send their children to school. I can understand kung gusto nilang makadoble at ipagbili yong boto. lumalago daw kasi and economy natin and they want a share too, in any which way they can get it. still, I hope there are those in the poorest of the poor who will not sell their votes. though there are those not so poor yet willing to sell their votes.
@moonie, a very good solution otherwise mananalo na naman ang mga corrupt.
@Victin Luz…sa ilalim ng KANGKUNGAN ang pulot sa atin…! [ sabi ni….? ]
Ha ha tama ma’am @Leona mugging kangkong pati he he
That Globe with 9 Dash Line and very CHEAP…….it was a NOTICE to the WHOLE WORLD cpmer’s.
China was consolidating , acquiring and preserving their claims to all South China sea…We need again the expertise of our Lawyers in the interpretation of LAW’s of the UNCLOS with our Constitution.. Atty Rene, JCC, mam Leona and etc… Will do it for us.
(the 1933 committee in China) “had no means of actually surveying any of the features it wanted to claim. Instead, the committee simply copied the existing British charts and changed the names of the islands to make them sound Chinese. We know they did this because the committee’s map included about 20 mistakes that appeared on the British map – features that in later, better surveys were found not to actually exist.”
http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1146151/how-non-existent-island-became-chinas-southernmost-territory
Spratlys, Paracels and Scarborough are not on a Chinese map published by The Shanghai Publishing House in 1904. The said map stretched as far south as Hainan Island only. Meaning that Spratlys, Paracels and Scarborough do not belong to China. The map was created by many clergymen, astronomers and mathematicians recruited by Chinese emperors over a period of two centuries from 1708 to 1904.
http://tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/society/spratlys-paracels-not-on-1904-chinese-map-1.80705
[email protected] ,, Do you think it’s about time for our legislators to review R.A. 9522 or to pass a stronger Law that will fortify further our claims on Sratly’s and Scarborough Shoal?
@Alan’s given link, gives out a black and white, written historically related proof that China plagiarized their recent maps – from British Maps
“x x x Instead, the committee simply copied the existing British charts x x x” !
copying even the 20 British MISTAKES verbatim! What more proof is needed to charge CHINA of PLAGIARZING without attribution of the source of their MAPS?
Maybe a ‘supplemental COMPLAINT’ on this ‘So To’ coping is appropriate before the UNCLOS Tribunal just to point out China’s erroneous plagiarizing data on their MAPS.
China will have a very hard and difficult time disproving it’s plagiarizing acts when their maps are SIDE BY SIDE placed with the BRITISH MAPS! What an BIG embarrassment they can get!
Thanks @Alan.
You’re very welcome Leona
The more mistakes they make in plagiarizing the maps, so much the better for the philippines because it’s becoming more crystal clear to the UNCLOS who is the real owner of those islands. China is doing its best to be smart, clever and crafty in claiming those territories that don’t belong to them, that in so doing they find themselves in hot water/ boiling water when the reckoning comes.
my worry is, it is the latter map that may supersede the former. just like in wills and testaments. lawyers would go for the latest one made no matter how flimsy it is, so long as it is genuinely there, signed and dated. if we will not contest this 9dash line, it might get set in concrete. much to our peril. but as atty. roque had said, we have already lodged our protest in international court before the globes were circulated. or, is it? we dont really know how long had these globes been in circulation.
…how long?…less than a minute dancing GANG NAM just keep banging ’em like heads!
IMO this all started when someone in the Philippines lobbied for China granting to do exploration and research to those disputed islands and areas, finding treasures of oil and gases. And tno one can stop them now.
Before I miss to say this: Thanks Raissa and Alan for this new very and continuous interesting Chinese Tricks issue. Now, you can take a longer nap. Rest easy the two of you.
Ay, not yet.
Too many stories to write :)
But thank you.
Tulog na ako baka pag gising ko bukas anjan na yung bagong pasabog na story ni Raissa :)
Paki post po yung comment na waiting for moderation. Salamat.
Yung globo from china sobra, yung sa US kulang.
Yung globo from china sobra sa claim ng teritoryo samantalang yung sa US kulang,
wala yung tubbataha reef :)
Off-topic: Strike one UNA
Sabi ni tiangco hindi daw ng iintimidate ang UNA from this news article.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/357973/una-wont-do-lps-intimidation-of-party-members-tiangco
Kaso a few hours later yung head nilang si binay ay nag-issue na ng threat kay escuedero parang yung ginawa niya kay Koko Pimentel.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/358011/una-may-drop-escudero-from-senatorial-slate-binay
Pathetic talaga ang UNA full of hypocrisy. After tulungan ni escuedero upang isulong ang NoyBi tandem last 2010 election biglang nilaglag siya ngayon. Koko Pimentel was president of PDP-Laban who also helped binay during his candidacy.
Now Binay decided to kick koko and became the head of PDP-Laban, to add insult to the injury he picked zubiri.
@Martial B., …thanks for this link.
Mga taga Una No…sabi ni Tiangco –
“The great turnout for our proclamation rally was a pleasant surprise for us, considering that Cebu had been a bailiwick of the Liberal Party,” he said.
Tiangco pointed out that the huge crowd that greeted UNA’s senatorial bets on the first day of the campaign period was “very, very encouraging.”
He said that the crowd they drew was a “clear indicator that this former bastion of the Liberal Party is going all out for UNA in the May election.” Quote ‘n unquote.
INGAT kayo! Di niyo kilala ang mga VISAYAN tribe. Remember the history in MACTAN Island, a big crowd went out on the shores of MACTAN when Ferdinand Magellan’s ships anchored. Master Magellan landed with a few of his men and soldiers.
The master thought, he and his men will be welcomed. What happened upon landing? Na UNA han…LAPU LAPU and his warriors rejected the Spanish Master M. Attack was the action. Rest is history.
Cebu is a die hard LIBERAL BASTION. Remember it. Una no will be so surprised on the May results.
Lapu Lapu and his people are always a LIBERAL! So is the Island of CEBU.
PETITION DEP-ED AND CHED TO TURN THIS INTO AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY
My suggestion is that we make noise and petition the DepEd and CHED to turn this into an educational activity for all students in the country.
In all geography, world history, political science, etc classes, teachers should bring blue pentels or blue strips of paper and together with the students, paint over or cover the incorrect hash marks to make it disappear.
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Then mail them all to the Chinese Embassy in Manila.
…or can we print out new PH stamps with the present geography and the contested islands included?
It’s quite easy to refute China’s claims. The Chinese are well-known for their impressive demarcation of possessions. The Forbidden City is ringed with high walls. The city of Xian has the best surviving walls in the entire country. Then there is the terracotta army in the necropolis of the first Emperor of China. And needless to mention there is the great Great Wall.
How to explain the hastily drawn and barely visible nine-dash line markings? Pfft. How Unchinese!
Perhaps, for all we know, there is a Great Submarine Wall that snakes beneath the waters of the West Philippine Sea. Or there are terracotta sea dragons buried in the ocean floor. Until these are discovered though we can rest assured of the falseness and illegitimacy of Chinese claims.
if we will not kick up a stink, next time, the nine-dash line is going to be in bold and higly visible. at the time of printing the globe, they probably did not have enough ink to make the line definite. but it’s there alright. a trap for the unwary.
@swm,
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30466/manuel-buencamino-the-truth-behind-chinas-nine-dash-map
@baycas…Can it be searched “who” put that word in the middle “china” for “South ___Sea?” A man or a woman? Must have been sipping a lot of OPIUM at the time before making that very first sketch MAP! A bribe getting that drug?
@leona
from WIKI none other else, anything you search append wiki at the end ….he he he he
South China Sea is the dominant term used in English for the sea, and the name in most European languages is equivalent, but it is sometimes called by different names in neighboring countries, often reflecting historical claims to hegemony over the sea.
The English name is a result of early European interest in the sea as a route from Europe and South Asia to the trading opportunities of China. In the sixteenth century Portuguese sailors called it the China Sea (Mar da China); later needs to differentiate it from nearby bodies of water led to calling it the South China Sea.[3] The International Hydrographic Organization refers to the sea as “South China Sea (Nan Hai)”.[4]
The Yizhoushu, which was a chronicle of the Western Zhou dynasty (1046–771 BCE) gives the first Chinese name for the South China Sea as Nanfang Hai (Chinese: 南方海; pinyin: Nánfāng Hǎi; literally “Southern Sea”), claiming that barbarians from that sea gave tributes of hawksbill sea turtles to the Zhou rulers.[5] The Classic of Poetry, Zuo Zhuan, and Guoyu classics of the Spring and Autumn period (771-476 BCE) also referred to the sea, but by the name Nan Hai (Chinese: 南海; pinyin: Nán Hǎi; literally “South Sea”) in reference to the State of Chu’s expeditions there.[5] During the Eastern Han dynasty (23-220 CE), China’s rulers called the Sea Zhang Hai (Chinese: 漲海; pinyin: Zhǎng Hǎi; literally “distended sea”).[5] Fei Hai (Chinese: 沸海; pinyin: Fèi Hǎi; literally “boil sea”) became popular during the Southern and Northern Dynasties period. Usage of the current Chinese name, Nan Hai (South Sea), became gradually widespread during the Qing Dynasty.[6]
In Southeast Asia it was once called the Champa Sea AKA Sea of Cham, after the maritime kingdom of Champa that flourished there before the sixteenth century. The majority of the sea came under Japanese naval control during World War II following the military acquisition of many surrounding South East Asian territories in 1941. Japan calls the sea Minami Shina Kai “South China Sea”. This was written 南支那海 until 2004, when the Japanese Foreign Ministry and other departments switched the spelling 南シナ海, which has become the standard usage in Japan.
In China, it is called the “South Sea”, 南海 Nánhǎi, and in Vietnam the “East Sea”, Biển Đông.[7][8][9] In Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines, it was long called the “South China Sea” (Dagat Timog Tsina in Tagalog, Laut China Selatan in Malay), with the part within Philippine territorial waters often called the “Luzon Sea”, Dagat Luzon, by the Philippines.[10] However, following an escalation of the Spratly Islands dispute in 2011, various Philippine government agencies started using the name “West Philippine Sea”. A PAGASA spokesperson said that the sea to the east of the Philippines will continue to be called the Philippine Sea.[11]
In September 2012, Philippine President Benigno Aquino III signed Administrative Order No. 29, mandating that all government agencies use the name “West Philippine Sea” to refer to the parts of the South China Sea within the Philippines’ exclusive economic zone, and tasked the National Mapping and Resource Information Authority (NAMRIA) to use the name in official maps to bolster the Philippines’ claims to the Spratly Islands and Scarborough Shoal.[12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Sea
@swm,
Seriously…
THE BUILDING OF CHINA’S GREAT WALL AT SEA
Raul (Pete) Pedrozo∗
http://web1c.uct.usm.maine.edu/academics/oclj/pdf/vol17_2/vol17_253.pdf
@baycas…No. 9.3 ‘Wall at Sea’ article is so good reading! Now, we might be able to find out how the US Gov’t will make it’s intent to act in this region, a real or superficial one, for all other regional claimants versus China will be in the very near future. Thanking your dedication and efforts getting this article here. We have much to learn. Leona.
I had my tongue firmly tucked in cheek with my original post. I laughed with and at MB’s noodle theory on the origins of the 9-dash line. But I turned serious at Pedrozo’s delineation of the building of the Great Sea Wall. I take heart in his estimation that the sea wall can be breached (as was the original Great Wall) and his multipoint strategy is well drawn.
It is best for the Dep’t of Foreign Affairs/ Dep’t of Environment to send for our sea divers beneath the waters of the West Philippine Sea to investigate and take pictures showing what’s in there, JUST IN CASE. Unahan natin..
My globe is ‘Made in Japan’ 70’s version. China’s new dirt-tricky ‘globes’ must be dashing in U.S. markets these days like their other China-made products.
Warning: World citizens and residents, DO NOT BUY CHINA MADE GLOBE now! It is a distortion of World GEOGRAPHY!
The Chinese people surely cannot believe that their government is claiming excessively the WHOLE SOUTH CHINA SEA! This preposterous claim might cause the downfall of the Chinese Politburo soon when China is attacked by other claimants.
Irresponsible and dangerous Communist Politburo Chinese leaders and PLA officials!
A dangerous cause will have dangerous effects, reaching a dangerous downfall at a dangerous end.
It be so.
Hi Ms. Raissa,
I was looking for the Google+ icon so I can share it with my friends and groups. Kindly include one. thanks
Hi manangjuana,
There is a google+ icon just under the story where it says “share this”.
Sorry, I have a different perspective on this. Please feel free to comment.
Aren’t we over reacting perhaps?
I mean those lines are so tiny (to my scrutiny) that it almost doesn’t mean nor resemble anything.
Look, there are a lot of lines in there that one may not be noticing it at all, with all honesty.
I mean, it’s not that Elemetary/Highschool teachers using that cheap chinese globe in their history class would really point out Philippines and China and emphasize on the so called nine-dash lines.
When I was in my informative years, during class, the emphasis of the lesson is to be familiar with the Philippines and it’s neigboring countries…making sure to recognize and pinpoint where exactly in that map/globe is Thailand, Laos, Korea, China etc…
But Chinese passports bearing the same darn-ancient-imaginary lines – that’s a different story!
Hence, In my humblest opinion, it doesnt really mean anything.
Worth talking about, and quite amusing really, but doesn’t really mean anything.
“Worth talking about, and quite amusing really, but doesn’t really mean anything”.
Please, ask the chinese why did they put those lines in the first place.
tama, vibora. sometimes the difference between winning gold and the silver medal in the olympics is decided in matters of nanoseconds. we have always been told to be deligent and read the fine prints, those very tiny prints can mean a lot. ignore them at your peril. latitudes and longitudes are also very tiny lines almost imaginary that criss-cross the earth, they’re used a lot by navigators such as pilots and sailors to pinpoint exact location on the map. misplaced one and you’re going to be in trouble, big trouble. no, we are not over reacting. there is a law about claims. if you claim something and you tell near and far about it and no one disputes you, then it’s yours. that’s how squatters claimed a mansion in los angeles (?) it was unoccupied at the time they squat. china is not going the pull this kind of trick on us.
@Vibora and Moonie
I’m with you all the way, believe me. In fact, I would commend Engineer Valencia for being vigilant.
But hey, aren’t we bombarded with substandard and low quality chinese manufactured products that doesnt conform with “standards’ set by say DTI perhaps, or TUV or what have you.
This caught on as it just so happen that these friggin globe plays on the very same issue the Philippines and China are entangled with right now.
Heck, it’s not even official (and would never be official anyway) so why bother?
If lahat ng globe or map sa Pilipinas, on offices, classrooms and all other places would show that nine-dash lines…then I will be beyond bothered!
Eh meron nga dun sa store na un na manufactured somewhere else…but does not show the nine-dash line…
IMHO.
by the time you bothered, it might be way too late.
@gene and Vibora
this is one of the triple crown announcer said in a horse race: ….as they turn for home, hagdang bato poke his nose to take the lead…
and other one…down the streach at payoff wire five horses close finish….
winning requires srcutiny just in horse racing, now when it comes to property of our territory, it must be marked or regulated by UNCLOS…
these globe maps and other maps MADE where china put his nose is not f**cking acceptable…IT IS A DIRTY TRICK…when the law comes in for territorial claims, the nearest one must win it….
he he he he did horse racing photo finish made that clear enough to you?
@Gane Simiansouns… altogether: Chinese passports tricks in it, China globes tricks in it, Chinese gunboats tricks in it, Chinese garrisons tricks in it, and Chinese refusals to answer at UNCLOS the Philippine complaint tricks in it….what do these all really mean?
Nothing? C’mon, you know more than that if you put altogether Chinese tricks, dirty tricks! IT HAS A REAL DIRTY MEANING for all the WORLD to know. Initial tricks…little by little, then more of it, is getting BIGGER and SO BIGGER, then BIGGEST!
…their tricks are to mislead…
Mislead, claim, intimidate. Like liar, thief, thug. If it were isolated, no problem. If there were no contested area, no problem. But because there is a contested area, it smacks of gross, rude, impolite disrespect of other nations. It is a huge huge signal of the truth about China. They care not about other nations.
I agree. I’m just merely airing out my opinion on the globe thing.
All the rest that you mentioned are purely different stories.
Far more serious than the globe issue.
@Gene, We are not overeacting. That’s what the ChineseGovernment are doing right now with the history. It’s just like this, A long, long time ago during the Tang, Nang Ming dynasty a map scholar erroneously drop some tiny thread of ink on his canvas. Later on after centuries old this archives were found and examined. And behold, this unfortunate lines were considered Chinese territories and they are claiming it now.
Same thing with these made in China Globe, if we will let our young children touse and accept what they see from those globe. Nth century from now, the Chinese will use these as proof and tell the UN and us that we know the limits or demarcations of their territory.
That is why it is important that those Globe should be burn and broken o pieces in front of the Chinese Embassy!!!..Tang!Nang!!Chi na!!!
Ahehe! So should we mass produce Pinoy made globes perhaps?
Let’s put there straight lines outlining Philippine territories instead of dash lines.
you’re right @Aremem about this Tang-nang Chi-nang ‘to! the chinese are mass producing these cheap globes and by selling these in an all Filipino-owned Bookstore called National Bookstore we are then helping Chinese Economy. Parang kumuha tayo ng martilyo na pampukpok sa sariling ulo natin.We’ll try producing the same but indicating the Scarborough Shoal and Recto Bank as ours. I’m sure China will be the first country to make a protest.
It is China, or it’s leaders who have over-reacted considering that it now produces more goods vs all other countries even USA plus the latter owes it about $1+TRILLIONS! So, it has gotten it’s head so BIG and BOLD! A rogue GIANT. How does one bring down a giant? Tripped it – is one. With a rope or string?
…read the story of Gulliver’s Travels and meeting the small people.
@gene simowns,, if China was not at Scarborough Soal and Sratly’s especially at Mischief Reefs ALREADY, we can say what for was that 9Dash Lines mean’s to us Filipinos, “QUE ILAGAY MO PA ANG MUKHA ni MAO sa bunganga ng mapa ng Mania , which we can interpret that Mao’s heir’s maybe fans of Mayor Lim…But not at this time @gene, we even had a joint exploration at Rectos Bank and we had already lodge our protest at United Nation and one thing more China’s are not submitting themselves to UNCLO’s rules. So mahirap na isawalang bahala mga kababayan ko.
China’s creeping invasion into the minds of Filipino students. And done cheaply.
What if these globe reach the schools in the countryside where teachers are sometimes the ones providing educational materials.
MADE IN CHINA….WHAT DO YOU SAY?
China is making a lot of profits in the free trade market. But with it’s excessive and preposterous claim of the whole So. China Sea islands, this can be a cause of it’s downfall. A backlash for wrong acts. All bullies are always brought down in so many ways. It is always the end result.
One is, USA will tripped it to do away paying the $1+Trillions it owes China plus to sell it’s products at half the prices the Americans are paying for it now.
And the same for others in the region.
Im glad a fellow CPMer caught this made in china items. Trying to dupe the young minds of filipino students with their mediocre globe. Hopefully pati yung mga nagtitinda sa divisoria or side street vendors will not buy (from china) or even try to sell this stuff in the Philippines.
Sa maliit na paraan ng pagtanggi at hindi nila pagbenta ng mga mapa at globo na peke ay matutulungan na nilang malinang ang kaalaman ng mga kaabatang pinoy sa “Tamang” geography at teritoryo ng Pilipinas.
Im counting 60 days and patiently waiting for the next move of our government. It seems our giant neighbor does not really have a proof regarding their 9 dash theory.
At least as Pinoys we can say to the world na ipinaglaban natin hindi lang ang teritoryo at soberenya ng Pilipinas pati na din ang ating mga kapatid sa ASEAN sa pamamagitan na pagpapatunay na ang 9 dash theory ay isang katang isip ng intsik lamang.
Mabuhay po kayo Sir David Valencia, Ma’am Raissa, Sir Alan sa pag expose nitong mga pekeng gamit na ito. Sana bukas sa main stream media ipalabas ito (TV Patrol etc.) :)
china seems to be desperate and behaving like a child seems to be their only option. hindi nila tayo pwedeng harapin sa international maritime court dahil they cannot argue their points, all of them baseless. they got no leg to stand on.
We need to start producing our own Globes showing our legal territorial properties. Chinese globes should be burned in front of the China Embassy as a protest. Chinese products are full of anomalies, illegalities and lies. China can’t even rule or take Taiwan back and now they were claiming our own territories, Senkaku Islands and even Hawaii. No wonder, China as a nation will even own Mars and the moon as theirs.
people who bought the chinese made globes should return them and ask for refund. like their infant milk formula that was recalled for being health risk, now it’s the globes. for being misleading and erroneous. I wonder if vietnam, japan and other south east asian nations got peddled the same erroneous globes. china’s national geographic must have approved them.
I wonder if these cheap chinese made inaccurate maps are now being peddled all over the world and not just in Manila. This shameful act will get them in hot water in the eyes of the world.
Possible.
We can ‘float’ all China-made globes to the South China Sea! Maybe the PLA navy will notice it.
The Chinese would make wonderful U.S. or American politicians, believing that if you say the same lie often and loudly enough it soon becomes truth.
Or they believe that their stamp of endorsement should end all discussion because, after all, we know for a fact that China is the center of the world and the rest of the globe consists of dog nations, doing the bidding of those conniving Americans. It was a Chinese general who, after all and without rebuke, claimed that Japan, Viet Nam and the Philippines are “running dogs” of America, and you only have to kill (his word, not mine) one to get the rest to fall into line.
These are arrogant, racist troublemakers with no respect for other people.
In other words, dangerous. Who else would use arming radars on Japanese boats and then raise a huge stink when Japan complained?
It is downright scary when irrational behavior is justified as correct and used to paint others as being in the wrong. It is scary because it is crazy and Chinese leaders believe the garbage they are dealing.
This is not a stable nation. Not a nation interested in global peace and harmony. Why are we buying their goods? ahahahaha, why are we borrowing their yuan?
erratum: “U.S. or Philippine politicians”
NBS recalled all the china globes.
what will NBS do with those bazooras? return or trash?
bakit di na lang harapin ng tsina ang usapin sa int’l tribunal?
marami pa silang maiisip na ideya at gagawing gimik para maangkin nang tuluyan ang teritoryo natin.
nararamdaman na nila ang pagka-ubos ng kanilang resources kaya ganyan na ang ginagawa nila.
ibenta ba naman nila ng pagkamura-mura. ngayon napapamura na sila, pati naman ako napapamura na rin.
let us all be vigilant. baka makatulad tayo ng mga Kuwaiti na isang Huwebws ng umaga, aug.2, 1990, ay nagising silang nasakop na ng mga Iraqi.
Salamat po sa walang sawa nyong pagsusulat para madagdagan ang aming kaalaman sa mga nangyayari sa ating bansa..
Walang anuman.
While we have all the rights to fight for what we claim we own. There is just a question of what is really real from these claims.
Is the Philippines a sovereign country on its own before the Spaniards named it as Philippines or merely a trade route from China to Malaysia.? A route that may either be owned by either of the two or divided into two groups of islands.
At any rate, I honestly lost my concern about what the Philippines can own or not at this point in time. while I see that a quick buck scheme of many Filipinos includes selling off their properties to foreigners with our government not seeing what happens in the future of the country whee someday we just wake up and see that the Philippines is no longer ours. They even have to resort to be married to a foreigner just to have money and the pride to be married to someone who can afford a life in luxury at the expense of the nation who always proudly says, ‘It is great to be A Filipino”.
If you are Filipino before and now a foreigner , your doubts can be answered by yourself. Identify yourself first before we give commments on your query.
Lagi kong binabasa mga article mo ms raissa syempre kasma nadin mga comments ..
Salamat.
Sali ka sa mga diskusyon dito.
The distrinbutor/ supplier/ seller of these products is violating our law :
RA 7394 – The Consumer Act of the Philippines – Title III – Protection against Deceptive, Unfair, and Unconscionable sales act or practices
Chapter I Article 48 – DEclaration of Policy – The state shall promote and encourage fair, honest and equitable relations among parties in consumer transactions and protect the consumer against defective, unfair and unconscionable sales acts or practices. Grossly inimical to the interest to the consumer or grossly one in favor of the producer/ manufacturer or distributor.
In determining whether an acy or practice is unfair and unconscionable, the following cicumstances shall be considered:
a) that the producer, manufacturer, distributor, seller took advantage of the inability of the consumer to reasonably protect his interest because of his inability to understand the language of an agreement or similar factors.
c) that when the consumer transaction was entered into, the consumer was unable to receive a substantial benefit from the subject of transaction
Chapter V – Liability for Product and Service
Article 100- The supplier of durable or nondurable consumer products are jointly liable for imperfections in quality that under the products unfit or inadequate for consumption which they are designed or decrease their value, and for those resulting from inconsistency with the information provided on the container or packaging
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The National Bookstore should be held liable for selling the deceptive and unfair globes to the consumers. It should have a solid knowledge on the product itis selling. It should have performed a product inspection to guarantee that the product is what is should be, not misinformed the consumer. As consumers, we the right to be protected against dihonest or misleading labeling / information.
Also, the globes when dented and broken could cause injury to the consumer because it is materially defective. It also a substandard product. Therefore the manufacturer/ distributor, supplier/sller fials to comply with the Philippine laws.
The product, globes, when sold to the consumers, especially to the Chinese students studying in Chinese schools could incite anti- nationalistic spirit against the Philippines as a whole.
latest development.
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/64415/national-bookstore-pulls-out-chinese-made-globes
http://www.interaksyon.com/business/55073/largest-ph-bookstore-chain-pulls-out-china-made-globes-reflecting-nine-dash-line
Huh…about time to rely on our own resources and products than to depend from cheap Chinese imports. If only these pork barrels are utilized properly, like allocating some portion for assisting Filipinos for business/industry start-ups… I am sure we can create our own globe and maps and school teaching aids businesses, and the products would be correct, timely, and accurate too. Trust it to these Chinese doing all kinds of short cuts in the name of profit and glory.
Time to whip up our nationalistic pride! We should be proud we are Pinoys at all times – not only during the Pacquiao winning bouts, or when our Miss U candidate is in top 5, lol!
tama ka @zamera,
paano ba naman sa mga nagdaang administrasyon ay wala nang ginawa ang kanilang mga kakutsabang mga commissioners kung hindi ang umangkat nang umangkat sa ibang nasyon.
kaya naman ultimong pansakahan natin ay halos malugmok sa paghihirap.
patay na halos ang ating industriya ng pagawaan.
kaya ang ating mga mamamayan ay nagkalat na sa buong mundo. laman ng mga balita ang pinoy sa bawat kaganapan sa ibat-ibang nasyon. kailan pa makakauwi nang tuluyan ang ating mga OFW’s upang dito na sa atin magtatrabaho at makapamumuhay ng marangal at disenteng buhay?
sa mga kaganapan at sakuna sa globo ay halos laging may napapasamang isa o ilang pinoy. ang mga drug mules, ang mga seafarers na nabibihag ng mga pirata, etc., etc…
tama lang na dagdagan pa natin ang pagsuporta sa mga magagandang ginagawa ng pamahalaan ni pnoy.
suportahan natin ang mga taong makatutulong niya sa pagsugpo sa mga manloloko at magnanakaw sa kabang-bayan…
On a lighter note, China-made products don’t usually stand the test of time. Less worries. :)
there are consumers advocary group around the world that ensured products sold are authentic and not harmful to humans. china did not always get away with faulty products. the makers of the tainted infant milk formula that contained melamine were arrested and as punishment, were executed and shot. the store that pretended to be apple electronic shop that sells only apple products that turned out to be fakes was closed.
I think we should mount a worldwide campaign to boycott the buying of those globes as it is offensively inaccurate and could serve as a propaganda vehicle for China !
@wyi5326…act on it…collect all, send via LBC with request to DROP ’em at “South Asia Sea…not ‘china.’ ” The PLA navy will surely see their globes floating against their ships!
good idea leona, but I’m not keen about the drop at sea. strong tide may push those globes back to us and pollute our shores. also, the plastic component of the globes may be toxic and harmful to marine life. marami na namang mga butanding ang mamamatay. some fishes, pagongs at pawikans are a bit stupid and eat up plastics na nakakabara sa bituka, at ikakamatay naman nila. the livelihood our fishermen fishing in those waters may also be affected. if I got one of those globes, I’ll return it and ask for refund.
those inaccurate globes should carry a warning like caution: this globe contained 9dash line. people might buy them for comparison, and out of curiosity. they may even keep them as curio. but that does not negate our stance to protect our shores, and keep invaders away. back off, china.
MALIGAYANG ARAW NG MGA PUSO SA LAHAT!!
HAPPY VALENTINES TO ALL!!
NARAGSAK A ALDAW TO PUSPUSO KADA KAYO AMIN!!
sa inyo mam raissa at sir alan. sa lahat ng CPMers na may pusong mapagmahal!!!
KASTA MET KENKA , Manang @pinay710, Happy Valentine TOO… Tagatno kade APO?
taga Bangued, Abra ak ading.
Nako po manang , GABRIELA… he he aglangay ka iti amin nga balasang ditoy Pilipinas ngem saan mo padpadasin iti taga ABRA manang….. naunget kayo ngem nasyaat nga AGAYAT lalong lalo na sa panahon ng ARAW ng mga PUSO…he he Happy Valentine uli sa iyo manang @pinay710
agpaysu ading ko. no agayat maimaisa lang, one and only, Pilipina ito ading dugong GABRIELA AT BALWEG.HAPPY VALENTINE met.
…i wish You All a very happy VALENTINE’s DAY! …specially to those just chec….ng out!
How about harmful chemicals?
Pwede [email protected], uranium waste from the Chinese Nuclear Power Plants and and other Nuclear facilities and weapons and equiptments.
The move by the present crops of leaders of the Mainland China in claiming all of the South China Sea (?) will surely accelerates in jeoperdizing the very existence, peaceful co-existense of the Chinese, whether they are Chinoys or Pintsiks, Koumintang or Commies, with the Filipino people. Are they wary of simmering adverse sentiments of Pinoys against Chinese, especially now that they are being blamed principally for the menace of the illegal drugs, prostitutions, smuggling, monopoly in all sectors of business & trading, the proliferations of fake, substandard and hazardous toys, cosmetics & foods that are all detrimental to the health of the consuming public and of other anti-social activities in the country? Are they waiting these thing to turn into a “racial war” ? Lest we all join hands, in understanding and bring solutions to the problem, we can doubly assure that this will surely happens. Or is this the real intentions, just like what the Japanese have done to our country during World War II ?
NO TO VOTE BUYING…
VOTE WISELY & INTELLIGENTLY….
HUWAG IBENTA ANG SAGRADONG BOTO…..AMEN….
@we have to [email protected]…. No to vote buying
Have you been to depressed areas or relocation site, can you tell that to the rural folks that are just waiting for dole outs specially during election time? how about to those jobless with an empty stomach?
What is the ratio of the poorest among the poor and to the one you call Cpmers?
this is also at the back of my mind, so the big challenge is how to make them fully aware of the offshoot of selling their votes time and time again in all facets of their lives
You have to try telling them your VOTE are not FOR SALE , to eliminate undesirables leaders that hinders the growth of our country. One person who will believe in you will multiply @clementejack otherwise ” Saan tayo pupulutin nyan ” ? Yes, I can tell them no to vote buying.
So sir @Rene , what will be our % of chances in re-acquiring that two contested area’s S.Shoal and Spratly’s legally at U.N.?
To tell the poorest not to sell their votes is easier said than done, something has to be done more than that to really open their eyes in the perils of selling their votes – remember they have empty stomach, ang taong gutom kumakapit sa patalim
tama mam letlet saka sabihin nila “SIGE NA LANG WALA NAMAN MANGYAYARI
for the poorest of the poor, there is a program called CCT, conditional cash transfer. it is the government’s help to help the poorest of the poor meet daily requirements. it’s not much but it’s there. on the condition that recepients send their children to school. I can understand kung gusto nilang makadoble at ipagbili yong boto. lumalago daw kasi and economy natin and they want a share too, in any which way they can get it. still, I hope there are those in the poorest of the poor who will not sell their votes. though there are those not so poor yet willing to sell their votes.
@moonie, a very good solution otherwise mananalo na naman ang mga corrupt.
@Victin Luz…sa ilalim ng KANGKUNGAN ang pulot sa atin…! [ sabi ni….? ]
Ha ha tama ma’am @Leona mugging kangkong pati he he
That Globe with 9 Dash Line and very CHEAP…….it was a NOTICE to the WHOLE WORLD cpmer’s.
China was consolidating , acquiring and preserving their claims to all South China sea…We need again the expertise of our Lawyers in the interpretation of LAW’s of the UNCLOS with our Constitution.. Atty Rene, JCC, mam Leona and etc… Will do it for us.
(the 1933 committee in China) “had no means of actually surveying any of the features it wanted to claim. Instead, the committee simply copied the existing British charts and changed the names of the islands to make them sound Chinese. We know they did this because the committee’s map included about 20 mistakes that appeared on the British map – features that in later, better surveys were found not to actually exist.”
http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1146151/how-non-existent-island-became-chinas-southernmost-territory
Spratlys, Paracels and Scarborough are not on a Chinese map published by The Shanghai Publishing House in 1904. The said map stretched as far south as Hainan Island only. Meaning that Spratlys, Paracels and Scarborough do not belong to China. The map was created by many clergymen, astronomers and mathematicians recruited by Chinese emperors over a period of two centuries from 1708 to 1904.
http://tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/society/spratlys-paracels-not-on-1904-chinese-map-1.80705
[email protected] ,, Do you think it’s about time for our legislators to review R.A. 9522 or to pass a stronger Law that will fortify further our claims on Sratly’s and Scarborough Shoal?
@Alan’s given link, gives out a black and white, written historically related proof that China plagiarized their recent maps – from British Maps
“x x x Instead, the committee simply copied the existing British charts x x x” !
copying even the 20 British MISTAKES verbatim! What more proof is needed to charge CHINA of PLAGIARZING without attribution of the source of their MAPS?
Maybe a ‘supplemental COMPLAINT’ on this ‘So To’ coping is appropriate before the UNCLOS Tribunal just to point out China’s erroneous plagiarizing data on their MAPS.
China will have a very hard and difficult time disproving it’s plagiarizing acts when their maps are SIDE BY SIDE placed with the BRITISH MAPS! What an BIG embarrassment they can get!
Thanks @Alan.
You’re very welcome Leona
The more mistakes they make in plagiarizing the maps, so much the better for the philippines because it’s becoming more crystal clear to the UNCLOS who is the real owner of those islands. China is doing its best to be smart, clever and crafty in claiming those territories that don’t belong to them, that in so doing they find themselves in hot water/ boiling water when the reckoning comes.
my worry is, it is the latter map that may supersede the former. just like in wills and testaments. lawyers would go for the latest one made no matter how flimsy it is, so long as it is genuinely there, signed and dated. if we will not contest this 9dash line, it might get set in concrete. much to our peril. but as atty. roque had said, we have already lodged our protest in international court before the globes were circulated. or, is it? we dont really know how long had these globes been in circulation.
…how long?…less than a minute dancing GANG NAM just keep banging ’em like heads!
IMO this all started when someone in the Philippines lobbied for China granting to do exploration and research to those disputed islands and areas, finding treasures of oil and gases. And tno one can stop them now.
Before I miss to say this: Thanks Raissa and Alan for this new very and continuous interesting Chinese Tricks issue. Now, you can take a longer nap. Rest easy the two of you.
Ay, not yet.
Too many stories to write :)
But thank you.
Tulog na ako baka pag gising ko bukas anjan na yung bagong pasabog na story ni Raissa :)
Paki post po yung comment na waiting for moderation. Salamat.
Yung globo from china sobra, yung sa US kulang.
Yung globo from china sobra sa claim ng teritoryo samantalang yung sa US kulang,
wala yung tubbataha reef :)
Off-topic: Strike one UNA
Sabi ni tiangco hindi daw ng iintimidate ang UNA from this news article.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/357973/una-wont-do-lps-intimidation-of-party-members-tiangco
Kaso a few hours later yung head nilang si binay ay nag-issue na ng threat kay escuedero parang yung ginawa niya kay Koko Pimentel.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/358011/una-may-drop-escudero-from-senatorial-slate-binay
Pathetic talaga ang UNA full of hypocrisy. After tulungan ni escuedero upang isulong ang NoyBi tandem last 2010 election biglang nilaglag siya ngayon. Koko Pimentel was president of PDP-Laban who also helped binay during his candidacy.
Now Binay decided to kick koko and became the head of PDP-Laban, to add insult to the injury he picked zubiri.
@Martial B., …thanks for this link.
Mga taga Una No…sabi ni Tiangco –
“The great turnout for our proclamation rally was a pleasant surprise for us, considering that Cebu had been a bailiwick of the Liberal Party,” he said.
Tiangco pointed out that the huge crowd that greeted UNA’s senatorial bets on the first day of the campaign period was “very, very encouraging.”
He said that the crowd they drew was a “clear indicator that this former bastion of the Liberal Party is going all out for UNA in the May election.” Quote ‘n unquote.
INGAT kayo! Di niyo kilala ang mga VISAYAN tribe. Remember the history in MACTAN Island, a big crowd went out on the shores of MACTAN when Ferdinand Magellan’s ships anchored. Master Magellan landed with a few of his men and soldiers.
The master thought, he and his men will be welcomed. What happened upon landing? Na UNA han…LAPU LAPU and his warriors rejected the Spanish Master M. Attack was the action. Rest is history.
Cebu is a die hard LIBERAL BASTION. Remember it. Una no will be so surprised on the May results.
Lapu Lapu and his people are always a LIBERAL! So is the Island of CEBU.
PETITION DEP-ED AND CHED TO TURN THIS INTO AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY
My suggestion is that we make noise and petition the DepEd and CHED to turn this into an educational activity for all students in the country.
In all geography, world history, political science, etc classes, teachers should bring blue pentels or blue strips of paper and together with the students, paint over or cover the incorrect hash marks to make it disappear.
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Then mail them all to the Chinese Embassy in Manila.
…or can we print out new PH stamps with the present geography and the contested islands included?
It’s quite easy to refute China’s claims. The Chinese are well-known for their impressive demarcation of possessions. The Forbidden City is ringed with high walls. The city of Xian has the best surviving walls in the entire country. Then there is the terracotta army in the necropolis of the first Emperor of China. And needless to mention there is the great Great Wall.
How to explain the hastily drawn and barely visible nine-dash line markings? Pfft. How Unchinese!
Perhaps, for all we know, there is a Great Submarine Wall that snakes beneath the waters of the West Philippine Sea. Or there are terracotta sea dragons buried in the ocean floor. Until these are discovered though we can rest assured of the falseness and illegitimacy of Chinese claims.
if we will not kick up a stink, next time, the nine-dash line is going to be in bold and higly visible. at the time of printing the globe, they probably did not have enough ink to make the line definite. but it’s there alright. a trap for the unwary.
@swm,
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30466/manuel-buencamino-the-truth-behind-chinas-nine-dash-map
@baycas…Can it be searched “who” put that word in the middle “china” for “South ___Sea?” A man or a woman? Must have been sipping a lot of OPIUM at the time before making that very first sketch MAP! A bribe getting that drug?
@leona
from WIKI none other else, anything you search append wiki at the end ….he he he he
South China Sea is the dominant term used in English for the sea, and the name in most European languages is equivalent, but it is sometimes called by different names in neighboring countries, often reflecting historical claims to hegemony over the sea.
The English name is a result of early European interest in the sea as a route from Europe and South Asia to the trading opportunities of China. In the sixteenth century Portuguese sailors called it the China Sea (Mar da China); later needs to differentiate it from nearby bodies of water led to calling it the South China Sea.[3] The International Hydrographic Organization refers to the sea as “South China Sea (Nan Hai)”.[4]
The Yizhoushu, which was a chronicle of the Western Zhou dynasty (1046–771 BCE) gives the first Chinese name for the South China Sea as Nanfang Hai (Chinese: 南方海; pinyin: Nánfāng Hǎi; literally “Southern Sea”), claiming that barbarians from that sea gave tributes of hawksbill sea turtles to the Zhou rulers.[5] The Classic of Poetry, Zuo Zhuan, and Guoyu classics of the Spring and Autumn period (771-476 BCE) also referred to the sea, but by the name Nan Hai (Chinese: 南海; pinyin: Nán Hǎi; literally “South Sea”) in reference to the State of Chu’s expeditions there.[5] During the Eastern Han dynasty (23-220 CE), China’s rulers called the Sea Zhang Hai (Chinese: 漲海; pinyin: Zhǎng Hǎi; literally “distended sea”).[5] Fei Hai (Chinese: 沸海; pinyin: Fèi Hǎi; literally “boil sea”) became popular during the Southern and Northern Dynasties period. Usage of the current Chinese name, Nan Hai (South Sea), became gradually widespread during the Qing Dynasty.[6]
In Southeast Asia it was once called the Champa Sea AKA Sea of Cham, after the maritime kingdom of Champa that flourished there before the sixteenth century. The majority of the sea came under Japanese naval control during World War II following the military acquisition of many surrounding South East Asian territories in 1941. Japan calls the sea Minami Shina Kai “South China Sea”. This was written 南支那海 until 2004, when the Japanese Foreign Ministry and other departments switched the spelling 南シナ海, which has become the standard usage in Japan.
In China, it is called the “South Sea”, 南海 Nánhǎi, and in Vietnam the “East Sea”, Biển Đông.[7][8][9] In Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines, it was long called the “South China Sea” (Dagat Timog Tsina in Tagalog, Laut China Selatan in Malay), with the part within Philippine territorial waters often called the “Luzon Sea”, Dagat Luzon, by the Philippines.[10] However, following an escalation of the Spratly Islands dispute in 2011, various Philippine government agencies started using the name “West Philippine Sea”. A PAGASA spokesperson said that the sea to the east of the Philippines will continue to be called the Philippine Sea.[11]
In September 2012, Philippine President Benigno Aquino III signed Administrative Order No. 29, mandating that all government agencies use the name “West Philippine Sea” to refer to the parts of the South China Sea within the Philippines’ exclusive economic zone, and tasked the National Mapping and Resource Information Authority (NAMRIA) to use the name in official maps to bolster the Philippines’ claims to the Spratly Islands and Scarborough Shoal.[12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Sea
@swm,
Seriously…
THE BUILDING OF CHINA’S GREAT WALL AT SEA
Raul (Pete) Pedrozo∗
http://web1c.uct.usm.maine.edu/academics/oclj/pdf/vol17_2/vol17_253.pdf
@baycas…No. 9.3 ‘Wall at Sea’ article is so good reading! Now, we might be able to find out how the US Gov’t will make it’s intent to act in this region, a real or superficial one, for all other regional claimants versus China will be in the very near future. Thanking your dedication and efforts getting this article here. We have much to learn. Leona.
I had my tongue firmly tucked in cheek with my original post. I laughed with and at MB’s noodle theory on the origins of the 9-dash line. But I turned serious at Pedrozo’s delineation of the building of the Great Sea Wall. I take heart in his estimation that the sea wall can be breached (as was the original Great Wall) and his multipoint strategy is well drawn.
It is best for the Dep’t of Foreign Affairs/ Dep’t of Environment to send for our sea divers beneath the waters of the West Philippine Sea to investigate and take pictures showing what’s in there, JUST IN CASE. Unahan natin..
My globe is ‘Made in Japan’ 70’s version. China’s new dirt-tricky ‘globes’ must be dashing in U.S. markets these days like their other China-made products.
Warning: World citizens and residents, DO NOT BUY CHINA MADE GLOBE now! It is a distortion of World GEOGRAPHY!
The Chinese people surely cannot believe that their government is claiming excessively the WHOLE SOUTH CHINA SEA! This preposterous claim might cause the downfall of the Chinese Politburo soon when China is attacked by other claimants.
Irresponsible and dangerous Communist Politburo Chinese leaders and PLA officials!
A dangerous cause will have dangerous effects, reaching a dangerous downfall at a dangerous end.
It be so.
Hi Ms. Raissa,
I was looking for the Google+ icon so I can share it with my friends and groups. Kindly include one. thanks
Hi manangjuana,
There is a google+ icon just under the story where it says “share this”.
Sorry, I have a different perspective on this. Please feel free to comment.
Aren’t we over reacting perhaps?
I mean those lines are so tiny (to my scrutiny) that it almost doesn’t mean nor resemble anything.
Look, there are a lot of lines in there that one may not be noticing it at all, with all honesty.
I mean, it’s not that Elemetary/Highschool teachers using that cheap chinese globe in their history class would really point out Philippines and China and emphasize on the so called nine-dash lines.
When I was in my informative years, during class, the emphasis of the lesson is to be familiar with the Philippines and it’s neigboring countries…making sure to recognize and pinpoint where exactly in that map/globe is Thailand, Laos, Korea, China etc…
But Chinese passports bearing the same darn-ancient-imaginary lines – that’s a different story!
Hence, In my humblest opinion, it doesnt really mean anything.
Worth talking about, and quite amusing really, but doesn’t really mean anything.
“Worth talking about, and quite amusing really, but doesn’t really mean anything”.
Please, ask the chinese why did they put those lines in the first place.
tama, vibora. sometimes the difference between winning gold and the silver medal in the olympics is decided in matters of nanoseconds. we have always been told to be deligent and read the fine prints, those very tiny prints can mean a lot. ignore them at your peril. latitudes and longitudes are also very tiny lines almost imaginary that criss-cross the earth, they’re used a lot by navigators such as pilots and sailors to pinpoint exact location on the map. misplaced one and you’re going to be in trouble, big trouble. no, we are not over reacting. there is a law about claims. if you claim something and you tell near and far about it and no one disputes you, then it’s yours. that’s how squatters claimed a mansion in los angeles (?) it was unoccupied at the time they squat. china is not going the pull this kind of trick on us.
@Vibora and Moonie
I’m with you all the way, believe me. In fact, I would commend Engineer Valencia for being vigilant.
But hey, aren’t we bombarded with substandard and low quality chinese manufactured products that doesnt conform with “standards’ set by say DTI perhaps, or TUV or what have you.
This caught on as it just so happen that these friggin globe plays on the very same issue the Philippines and China are entangled with right now.
Heck, it’s not even official (and would never be official anyway) so why bother?
If lahat ng globe or map sa Pilipinas, on offices, classrooms and all other places would show that nine-dash lines…then I will be beyond bothered!
Eh meron nga dun sa store na un na manufactured somewhere else…but does not show the nine-dash line…
IMHO.
by the time you bothered, it might be way too late.
@gene and Vibora
this is one of the triple crown announcer said in a horse race: ….as they turn for home, hagdang bato poke his nose to take the lead…
and other one…down the streach at payoff wire five horses close finish….
winning requires srcutiny just in horse racing, now when it comes to property of our territory, it must be marked or regulated by UNCLOS…
these globe maps and other maps MADE where china put his nose is not f**cking acceptable…IT IS A DIRTY TRICK…when the law comes in for territorial claims, the nearest one must win it….
he he he he did horse racing photo finish made that clear enough to you?
@Gane Simiansouns… altogether: Chinese passports tricks in it, China globes tricks in it, Chinese gunboats tricks in it, Chinese garrisons tricks in it, and Chinese refusals to answer at UNCLOS the Philippine complaint tricks in it….what do these all really mean?
Nothing? C’mon, you know more than that if you put altogether Chinese tricks, dirty tricks! IT HAS A REAL DIRTY MEANING for all the WORLD to know. Initial tricks…little by little, then more of it, is getting BIGGER and SO BIGGER, then BIGGEST!
…their tricks are to mislead…
Mislead, claim, intimidate. Like liar, thief, thug. If it were isolated, no problem. If there were no contested area, no problem. But because there is a contested area, it smacks of gross, rude, impolite disrespect of other nations. It is a huge huge signal of the truth about China. They care not about other nations.
I agree. I’m just merely airing out my opinion on the globe thing.
All the rest that you mentioned are purely different stories.
Far more serious than the globe issue.
@Gene, We are not overeacting. That’s what the ChineseGovernment are doing right now with the history. It’s just like this, A long, long time ago during the Tang, Nang Ming dynasty a map scholar erroneously drop some tiny thread of ink on his canvas. Later on after centuries old this archives were found and examined. And behold, this unfortunate lines were considered Chinese territories and they are claiming it now.
Same thing with these made in China Globe, if we will let our young children touse and accept what they see from those globe. Nth century from now, the Chinese will use these as proof and tell the UN and us that we know the limits or demarcations of their territory.
That is why it is important that those Globe should be burn and broken o pieces in front of the Chinese Embassy!!!..Tang!Nang!!Chi na!!!
Ahehe! So should we mass produce Pinoy made globes perhaps?
Let’s put there straight lines outlining Philippine territories instead of dash lines.
you’re right @Aremem about this Tang-nang Chi-nang ‘to! the chinese are mass producing these cheap globes and by selling these in an all Filipino-owned Bookstore called National Bookstore we are then helping Chinese Economy. Parang kumuha tayo ng martilyo na pampukpok sa sariling ulo natin.We’ll try producing the same but indicating the Scarborough Shoal and Recto Bank as ours. I’m sure China will be the first country to make a protest.
It is China, or it’s leaders who have over-reacted considering that it now produces more goods vs all other countries even USA plus the latter owes it about $1+TRILLIONS! So, it has gotten it’s head so BIG and BOLD! A rogue GIANT. How does one bring down a giant? Tripped it – is one. With a rope or string?
…read the story of Gulliver’s Travels and meeting the small people.
@gene simowns,, if China was not at Scarborough Soal and Sratly’s especially at Mischief Reefs ALREADY, we can say what for was that 9Dash Lines mean’s to us Filipinos, “QUE ILAGAY MO PA ANG MUKHA ni MAO sa bunganga ng mapa ng Mania , which we can interpret that Mao’s heir’s maybe fans of Mayor Lim…But not at this time @gene, we even had a joint exploration at Rectos Bank and we had already lodge our protest at United Nation and one thing more China’s are not submitting themselves to UNCLO’s rules. So mahirap na isawalang bahala mga kababayan ko.
China’s creeping invasion into the minds of Filipino students. And done cheaply.
What if these globe reach the schools in the countryside where teachers are sometimes the ones providing educational materials.
MADE IN CHINA….WHAT DO YOU SAY?
China is making a lot of profits in the free trade market. But with it’s excessive and preposterous claim of the whole So. China Sea islands, this can be a cause of it’s downfall. A backlash for wrong acts. All bullies are always brought down in so many ways. It is always the end result.
One is, USA will tripped it to do away paying the $1+Trillions it owes China plus to sell it’s products at half the prices the Americans are paying for it now.
And the same for others in the region.
Im glad a fellow CPMer caught this made in china items. Trying to dupe the young minds of filipino students with their mediocre globe. Hopefully pati yung mga nagtitinda sa divisoria or side street vendors will not buy (from china) or even try to sell this stuff in the Philippines.
Sa maliit na paraan ng pagtanggi at hindi nila pagbenta ng mga mapa at globo na peke ay matutulungan na nilang malinang ang kaalaman ng mga kaabatang pinoy sa “Tamang” geography at teritoryo ng Pilipinas.
Im counting 60 days and patiently waiting for the next move of our government. It seems our giant neighbor does not really have a proof regarding their 9 dash theory.
At least as Pinoys we can say to the world na ipinaglaban natin hindi lang ang teritoryo at soberenya ng Pilipinas pati na din ang ating mga kapatid sa ASEAN sa pamamagitan na pagpapatunay na ang 9 dash theory ay isang katang isip ng intsik lamang.
Mabuhay po kayo Sir David Valencia, Ma’am Raissa, Sir Alan sa pag expose nitong mga pekeng gamit na ito. Sana bukas sa main stream media ipalabas ito (TV Patrol etc.) :)
china seems to be desperate and behaving like a child seems to be their only option. hindi nila tayo pwedeng harapin sa international maritime court dahil they cannot argue their points, all of them baseless. they got no leg to stand on.
We need to start producing our own Globes showing our legal territorial properties. Chinese globes should be burned in front of the China Embassy as a protest. Chinese products are full of anomalies, illegalities and lies. China can’t even rule or take Taiwan back and now they were claiming our own territories, Senkaku Islands and even Hawaii. No wonder, China as a nation will even own Mars and the moon as theirs.
people who bought the chinese made globes should return them and ask for refund. like their infant milk formula that was recalled for being health risk, now it’s the globes. for being misleading and erroneous. I wonder if vietnam, japan and other south east asian nations got peddled the same erroneous globes. china’s national geographic must have approved them.
I wonder if these cheap chinese made inaccurate maps are now being peddled all over the world and not just in Manila. This shameful act will get them in hot water in the eyes of the world.
Possible.
We can ‘float’ all China-made globes to the South China Sea! Maybe the PLA navy will notice it.
The Chinese would make wonderful U.S. or American politicians, believing that if you say the same lie often and loudly enough it soon becomes truth.
Or they believe that their stamp of endorsement should end all discussion because, after all, we know for a fact that China is the center of the world and the rest of the globe consists of dog nations, doing the bidding of those conniving Americans. It was a Chinese general who, after all and without rebuke, claimed that Japan, Viet Nam and the Philippines are “running dogs” of America, and you only have to kill (his word, not mine) one to get the rest to fall into line.
These are arrogant, racist troublemakers with no respect for other people.
In other words, dangerous. Who else would use arming radars on Japanese boats and then raise a huge stink when Japan complained?
It is downright scary when irrational behavior is justified as correct and used to paint others as being in the wrong. It is scary because it is crazy and Chinese leaders believe the garbage they are dealing.
This is not a stable nation. Not a nation interested in global peace and harmony. Why are we buying their goods? ahahahaha, why are we borrowing their yuan?
erratum: “U.S. or Philippine politicians”