This is an open letter from a woman in Manila who flew to Tacloban and rescued 14 of her relatives. That woman is Geraldine Uy Wong, a dentist by training who now manages an educational toys distribution company.
Here is her story –
Geraldine Uy Wong
Mr. Anderson Cooper, I want to thank you for reporting on the miserable conditions that you saw when you covered the Tacloban calamity scene 5 days after the typhoon. Your report came out on Tuesday, the day I was herding our relatives to the airport to finally get out of Tacloban. A day before, I was able to board the relief cargo plane of Air 21 Express from Manila to Tacloban when I was given the chance, getting there on Monday noon, and immediately I set out looking for my family members. On the way to the city, I saw what you saw, countless dead bodies strewn on the ground in various stages of decomposition, extensive destruction everywhere I looked, injured people walking on the streets looking like zombies – hungry, confused, desperate. The stench of death permeated all around us and sent chills down my spine. Countless times as our vehicle moved down the road, we were stopped by people in the streets begging for food. The roads were only passable by one lane, and along the way, I saw officers of the BFP (Bureau of Fire Protection) manually remove the dead bodies, along with the unbelievably massive amount of debris scattered all around. Because of this, what would normally take 40 minutes or less to traverse became an agonizing 2 hour ride. I saw what you saw, Anderson, and it angered me as much as it did you. I was also heartbroken, for this is the place where I spent some of the most wonderful summers of my childhood. I vowed to myself that I would speak up about the government’s incompetence as soon as I got out. If I ever get out. . .
I arrived at the city hall tent as was part of my plan, because when I was still in Manila, I did hear that there was a command post of the DSWD (Department of Social Welfare and Development) where we can get celphone signals and internet connection. From there, I was supposed to make some inquiries before I would set out on foot to look for my relatives’ houses. It was while I was there that I saw with my own eyes how this government agency led by its head, Secretary Dinky Soliman, tirelessly and heroically worked almost 24/7 to immediately bring relief not only to the city of Tacloban but also to the outlying municipalities and towns that were affected by this calamity. I could not even begin to grasp the massive amount of work that needed to be done. I wanted to know why the government action seemed to be excruciatingly slow, but I couldn’t stay around long enough because my mission there was to find my relatives, and I did not want to be distracted. Thankfully, thankfully, I found them in two separate locations. They were cooped up in their houses, whispering in the dark, afraid to attract criminal elements that were reported to be going around looting. They could not believe I was there right before their eyes, and it was the first time in so long that they had a glimmer of hope that they would be rescued. We hastily fled their houses in the middle of the night, I placed all of them in one location, and then I went back to the city hall because it was a strategic point where I could get the proper celphone signals and stay connected to the outside world. I made some frenzied phone calls to my family in Manila, and it was from them that I found out that Cebu Pacific Air was offering humanitarian flights beginning Tuesday morning! All systems were in place for our eventual escape, and all I could do was pray to God that my plan would go on smoothly. After I instructed my cousin to look for 2 vehicles that could transport all 16 of us the next day to the airport, I decided to stay in the city hall overnight so that I could still keep in touch with my family in Manila. It was critical that I get all the assistance from the outside world so I could strategize better. Oh, how I proved now more than ever that communication or the lack of it could be one of the determinants for life and death!
As much as I was staying around for the rest of the night, I started going around to ask the officials why things are what they are. These are what I found out:
1. After the typhoon struck on the first day (Friday), the whole world lost track of the areas hit by the calamity. ZERO COMMUNICATION! It was even said that satellites could not locate Tacloban, Leyte, and Samar from the map, as if they were totally erased from the face of the earth. Unlike the tsunami event that hit Japan, where they were still connected to the outside world, Tacloban, Leyte, and Samar were shut out. How can we even begin to help them? And so, even as the magnitude of this calamity is being identified as similar to Japan’s tsunami event, circumstances were totally different. It was only the next day that we heard from Ted Failon of ABS-CBN what happened, and as the world watched in shock, it was then that we began to realize the massive destruction that hit this part of the country. This generalized cut of link to the outside world was to continue for the next 3 days, until Globe Telecoms was able to slowly bring back some of the signals on the 4th day.
2. Unlike the tsunami that happened in Japan where their airport was not affected, supertyphoon Yolanda destroyed the airport, which was just beside a big body of water. I need not say more, for CNN did cover the airport scene. All equipment, radar, watch tower destroyed. Absolutely no electricity. With that, Tacloban was even more cut off from the outside world. Nobody could either come in or go out. No relief to be brought in, no means of transportation for the national leaders to arrive with, no means of escape for the suffering people . It was only on Sunday, or the 3rd day since the typhoon hit, that the airport had a generator to make it operational, because Air 21, a Philippine cargo company, took it upon themselves to bring some much needed generators to make the airport operational. And that is how the airplane of the Philippine president and the first few government C130’s was able to land in the airport. 3rd day served as the first day when things just started to move. And lest I be taken to task for mentioning the benevolence of Air 21, yes, I admit that this was the same cargo plane that I took to be able to get to Tacloban on Monday, but it is precisely because I heard that the company was one of the first to offer humanitarian help gratis to the government that made me act to get quickly hooked up with the owners of the company and be able to hitch a ride.
3. The super typhoon decimated a big part of the population that so many people are still missing and unaccounted for to this day, and the rest who survived were either maimed and injured, were grieving for the loss of a loved one, struggling to cope with the tragedy that befell upon them, or simply looking for ways to take care of what remained of their family. In other words, everyone was a victim. And who are these people? These were the soldiers, police, red cross staff, social welfare staff, airport staff, bureau of fire protection (BFP) people, nurses, doctors, even the officials like the mayor and vice-mayor! And so if we look at things in this perspective, we begin to realize why there were no military and police to protect the people in the first few days, no staffers to repack or distribute relief goods, no BFP personnel to take care of clearing up the roads filled with dead people; in other words, there was hardly anyone there to put order into things as they were all victims themselves. I found out from one of the officials I spoke with that the people who came in much later to fill those places were flown in from Manila or pulled out from the other nearby towns that were not as badly affected. And so, those BFP people I saw clearing the road on Monday, the soldiers who were helping to slowly put order into the place, the red cross staffers who tried to address the health concerns of the victims, and even the DSWD staffers who were being deployed to evacuation centers and relief centers to distribute food and water, were mostly imports and volunteers from other places, and they were only able to start streaming in on the 3rd or 4th day! Therefore, the lack of manpower was not due to a lack of preparation but because of the unexpected loss or absence of these people who were supposed to be the government’s frontrunners!
4. And of course, let’s not forget that logistics is the lifestream of relief operations, but how could logistics have been tapped properly this time around when all roads were practically closed, nearly all means of transportation were destroyed, and if there were any remaining vehicle to move around with, either the key could not be found or there was not enough fuel! Even the ships could not dock on Tacloban shores, because the Coast Guard could not risk inviting another naval disaster seeing that the bodies of water were littered with debris. Is all this due to an ill-planned disaster preparation? I don’t think so. For after all, we have heard that the warehouses filled with food and rice in preparation for the typhoon were all soaked with water, the fuel depots were flooded, and even the evacuation centers where the residents were filled into, precisely to prepare for the coming supertyphoon, practically served as the death chamber of these same people. In our language, the fact that these people were properly evacuated and the government had food stocks stored is enough proof that the government prepared for this. But then again, this was no ordinary typhoon. In fact supertyphoon Yolanda is now being called the worst typhoon in the WORLD’S history.
These are only a few of the major points – not to justify, but rather to rationalize and logically explain why things happened as they did. To put things into their proper perspective. If America, which was hit by Hurricane Katrina, a far tamer weather disturbance in comparison to Supertyphoon Yolanda, struggled as well for several days and weeks to cope with the disaster, with then Pres. Bush earning the ire of your countrymen, how in the world could we expect that the Philippines, a much poorer country with very meager resources compared to the massive resources of a superpower country like yours, be able to miraculously stand up on its feet just a few days after this magnitude of a disaster? Even the spokesperson of the United Nations admits that they are really struggling to cope with the efforts to distribute help in this present situation.
And so I write you, Anderson, to let you know that at this time, when our country is at its darkest moment, Filipinos need to rally for each and every one of our countrymen as well as for our leaders. We hear that our government officials like Sec. Voltaire Gazmin, Mar Roxas, and Dinky Soliman arrived at Tacloban a day before the supertyphoon was to hit the place, meeting it head-on. And even as they struggle with their work and commit lapses along the way, we see that our leaders are doing the best that they could under the present circumstances. I still hope that you do your part to report on the truth and cry out in disgust if you find the conditions detestable. We appreciate what you and Andrew Stevens and the rest of the media are doing, because it keeps our leaders on their toes as they know that the whole world is watching them.
And even as we grieve, we are immensely grateful and overwhelmed with the help, support, and love that the whole world has sent our way. As I write this, it is the 7th day since the disaster struck, and now we see more and more people able to escape out of Tacloban. We did our own escape on Tuesday through Cebu Pacific Air, the airline that was the first to offer humanitarian flights for evacuees, with absolutely no charge! More and more roads are opened up for transportation, buses and trucks are filing in to bring relief, as well as to bring the people out. Same goes for the military ships which can now dock on ports. More and more people are given relief distributions, and doctors and paramedics from all over the world are able to come in to set up their medical missions. The ten choppers brought in by the USS warship was an immense boost to ease the logistical nightmare we have initially encountered, with just 3 government C130’s for use in the first few days. The UK, Australia, Japan, Sweden, the Netherlands, Germany, Israel, Hungary, Singapore, UAE, and many other countries sent in valuable equipment and transportation aside from aid. And I’m sure it’s hard not to notice, but practically all the citizens of this country contributed in his or her own way to ease the pain of our fellow Filipinos. Corporations readily offered their products, services, and facilities for use in this whole national operation. Our bayanihan (helping each other) spirit is a source of great pride! All told, we expect the sufferings to ease up a little, but it would be ignorant to say that we expect all things to be well. Tacloban, Samar, and Leyte will never be the same again. Our country will never be the same again. But if there is one thing that we have learned, it is this: we need to bring back the lost trust of the people with our government. For the longest time, we have been ruled with corruption and greed. Even to this day, we continue to suffer the effects of these evil thieves in our government. I wish they had been the ones swept up by the storm surge and thrown back into the seas. But not all are rotten tomatoes. I hope that Filipinos will now learn how to choose their leaders. It is time for the Filipino to stand as a nation and be strong again.
Anderson Cooper, after all this is done, please do not forget our country. If you have the time, I invite you to go around the other parts of the country which you will find to be extremely good-looking, and you will also find out that the Filipinos are some of the most wonderful and kind-hearted people in the world. Aside from this, I would also request that you and your colleagues do the following:
1. Please please please do whatever you can to make sure that the immense aid in CASH that we have been receiving and continue to receive, rightfully go to the rehabilitation of the devastated areas and not to the pockets of the corrupt few. Along the way, you might want to do a prize-winning documentary on the corruption problems of our country. On this, you will do well to be introduced to Senator Miriam Defensor Santiago to get most of your resource materials. With her by your side, your job will be half-done and I assure you an immensely enjoyable experience in her company.
2. Because you are Anderson Cooper, a well-respected veteran journalist who the world listens to, we ask you to please help the cause of our Philippine Climate Change Commission negotiator Naderev Sano for concrete steps to halt global warming. It is global warming and climate change that cause these disasters to happen, and the Philippines is said to be one of the countries most greatly impacted by this. We have suffered for so long, how long will we suffer more?
3. Anderson, can I also ask you to commend and show the pictures of our brave men and women as they perform their tasks, just as you show the ineptness and slow response of our officials to the current situation? Just to be fair to both sides and create an equal balance into the picture. The last thing we want is to see our dedicated volunteers lose their morale.
4. Lastly, I ask that someday, when the time is right, and the country has hopefully risen up from this fall, please come back and show the world that this time we did right. If that day does not come, I will be the first to get out of the Philippines and declare it a banana republic forever.
Anderson Cooper, for all that you and your colleagues do, we salute you! Please help our country as we struggle to be a strong nation at last. Thank you.
Rene-Ipil says
FACTS:
1. In the morning of Tuesday, November 12, Ms. Wong and her relatives were in Tacloban airport lining up for the Tacloban-Cebu flight of Cebu Pacific Air (CPA).
2. CPA was then mounting flights to and from Tacloban City, Leyte to assist passengers affected by super typhoon “Yolanda” AND for humanitarian purposes.
3. CPA operates four Cebu-Tacloban-Cebu flights until November 25 using an ATR aircraft.
4. The FIRST Cebu-Tacloban-Cebu flight was RESERVED for affected passengers AND for humanitarian purposes.
5. Also in the long line of those seeking seats in the first CPA flight to Cebu, behind Ms. Wong, are affluent Tacloban inhabitants with tickets on hand but were not accommodated.
6. That particular flight – the first – was mounted mainly for CPA passengers affected by Yolanda. The flight was intended ALSO for humanitarian purposes particularly the sick, senior citizens and children accompanied of course by parent or guardian.
7. In that first flight, CPA placed Ms. Wong, et. al., in the first category as CPA’s affected passengers or some in the second category for humanitarian reasons, or BOTH.
8. Subsequent CPA Cebu-Tacloban-Cebu flights were purely humanitarian or for free.
9. PAF’s C-130s were dedicated likewise to carry Yolanda victims for free from Tacloban to Manila or elsewhere. Any Yolanda victims – young or old, sickly or healthy – could hitch a ride. Of course priorities were also observed.
MY THEORY:
I believe that only affected passengers of CPA were able to ride that first flight. Indeed, many CPA affluent ticket holders failed to mount the plane. So that, if ever, Ms. Wong dislodged the affluents rather than the homeless and poor. Maybe Ms. Wong was unfair to her class.
And IMO there was nothing heroic about Ms. Wong’s mission but it surely is commendable. I think that others have also successfully done what she did. It was her duty to relieve her close relatives from hardships to the best she could. She also knew it won’t cost her life. But certainly, it takes lot of courage, determination, resources and knowledge of the terrain, not to mention luck, to launch such expedition. I guess that sooner or later a full article on her past and present life would come out, if not a movie about her version of “Operation Entebbe.” Just a guess.
Cha says
https://www.cebupacificair.com/pages/press-releases.aspx?pid=877
“CEB mounted two Tacloban-Cebu humanitarian flights yesterday (November 11) and four Tacloban-Cebu humanitarian flights today (November 12), to recover stranded passengers in Tacloban.
With no electricity and communications in Tacloban, guests are manually accommodated on these humanitarian flights, on first-come, first served basis. Priority is being given to Cebu Pacific ticket holders from November 7 to 25.”
Rene-Ipil says
[email protected]
Thanks. The link you provided confirms that CPA ticket holders were really given priority. My theory stands that due to enormity of stranded passengers, even ticket holders failed to board that flight carrying Ms. Wong and her relatives. Meaning that Ms. Wong did not really bump off the “guests” in that flight.
How Ms. Wong got their boarding pass would be a different story. Maybe her family has platinum/prestige/golden cards from CPA or is part-owner or related to Gokongwei. Or maybe, as one wildly suggested, they chartered the plane under condition that other Yolanda victims would be accommodated for humanitarian purposes. Maybe I am getting way off the mark. But your guess is as good as mine.
Her former classmates even went to extreme by suggesting that she should not only be the president of their class (not sure if UP or UNO) but the president of the Philippines.
My point is that we should leave Ms. Wong alone for now and focus on the significance of her message to Cooper. We have said more than enough about her story on a personal note. And I am sure that future events would unravel the truth about her “escapade.”
Cha says
Just said the same thing below and more . :)
netty says
Omygoodness, what has become of the CPMERS, a whole lot of nitpickers for either the benevolent and malevolent deeds of MS .WONG. What is so wrong about saving one’s family even paying for their fare using their own wealth? Is there anyone filing a complaint about them being there on the line to escape the further consequences of the typhoon?She narrated what she saw in her perspective, view and experience.Is paranoia creating all these issues, Korina vs Anderson, the poor vs the rich?. In time like this I wonder if one can ever think clearly because of shock.and those gamut of humanly emotion. No PINOY had ever been IN THE CENTER OF THE DELUBYO before, we can indeed be used to the condition of being poor but not this mind blowing storm con tsunami that even the WEST cannot believe the country survived it. I for myself, whatever Ms Wong did and didn’t do, is celebrating the lives that were saved whether they are her relatives, and whoever were lucky on that fateful day, this is her story and her reality, some would be really left behind no matter what the intention is. Survival is the key, she did not trample on the injured passenger hopefully, maybe only on someone else ego.
crichton_prime says
“LIKE”
Johnny Lin says
Netty
Nothing is wrong with CPMers, healthy discussion with opposite opinions.
You are well meaning and there is nothing wrong saving the family, if one thinks of the well being of others who have more serious injuries competing with the same seat in rescue operation. moral obligation of the healthy is allow the sickly ones to receive immediate care especially if they don’t have powerful connections. Wong violated that moral true which could have save one or more lives or improve the health of others if Wong gave up some of those seats.
As you said, “hopefully” she did not trample. Meaning, if one life could have been improved with a seat on the plane by Ms Wong leaving the healthy adults out of 14 people, then she did not deprive the other passengers without powerful conn.ection.
With pictures of thousands of injured, pregnant women, elderly and children, the chance of her not depriving anyone is zilch. Wong deprived opportunity to some sick people.
There goes your hopeful. Reality is cruel. She did not trample any ego either except boosts her own in Facebook because poor victims during times of need lose their egos.
I am not trying to dissuade you from your belief but give a more realistic moral view on pictures seen on internet, TV and news.
crichton_prime says
@ jOHNNY LINDOL: Hay naku Johnny mag tagalog ka na lang. so trying hard you namn!!
Cha says
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/11/14/world/philippines-typhoon-interactive/index.html?iid=article_sidebar
Typhoon chaser escapes Tacloban: ‘We needed to get the hell out’
By Hilary Whiteman, CNN
Nov. 11, 2013
“We rushed out of the room, sprinted up to the roof and watched the planes fly over the city. We were begging them, ‘please land, please,’ because we didn’t know the state of the airport. When we saw one of the planes land, we thought, right, ok the airport’s a viable option.”
Reynolds and Morgerman set out, leaving an injured Thomas back at the hotel. They had handheld radios and within half an hour a call came from Thomas. He’d learned of another way out: a military staging post where the airforce was flying people out.
“It was so uncertain — we didn’t want to give up our hotel room and food supplies because if we got to the staging post and they said sorry we couldn’t help you we would have been in big trouble,” Reynolds said.
Leaving behind most of their belongings, they carried the bare minimum to the military checkpoint where they registered their names and were told: “Yes, you can get out on an air force flight but you have to make your own way to their airport.”
At that moment, a man Reynolds describes only as a general piped up: “There is a helicopter coming, come with me.” “We ran with him,” Reynolds said. “The chopper landed and we scrambled onto it and got ferried to the airport.”
From there they boarded a C-130 with other survivors, and the bagged corpses of four people who didn’t make it. They landed in Cebu and caught flights out of the Philippines. Thomas is currently being treated in hospital in Taipei.
Cha says
“Most people of consequence have left the city — some after receiving threats from criminal gangs who want to pick over the property that gets left behind. But in truth almost everyone wants to leave — even those who, like the Flores family, have a roof, food and water. Desperate crowds besiege Tacloban’s “airport” — and it deserves the quote marks, for it’s nothing more than a postapocalyptic simulacrum of what it was. It opened for commercial flights on Monday, but good luck trying to get a ticket. Many people don’t even bother. Instead, they throng a nearby gate, beseeching soldiers to let them onto one of the C-130 planes, bound for the sanctuaries of Manila or Cebu. The atmosphere is dire.”
Read more: Supertyphoon Haiyan: Escaping Tacloban | TIME.com http://world.time.com/2013/11/14/typhoon-haiyan-getting-the-hell-out-of-ground-zero/#ixzz2lM3KIqFK
Cha says
Rene,
The articles above support your theory that: 1. CPA passengers were main beneficiary of the “humanitarian flights” available on the day of Ms. Wong’s escape., 2. that Ms. Wong dislodged other people who could afford tickets as well (and not the poor who were after the military planes) by beating them to the cue, 3. that luck indeed plays a role in escape stories like hers, it’s a matter of being in the right place at the right time sometimes.
As for a possible movie deal in the future, we’ll just have to wait on that. :)
Johnny Lin says
Cha
do you and Rene even remember or understand what you read or write.
Wong said that CP humanitarian flight was free, she used the word GRATIS. now you are saying that CP sold tickets and those holding CO tickets, meaning those holding cancelled flights. How could Wong and her niece hold CP cancelled flight from Tacloban when she came from Manila and she took Air 21 to Tacloban.
Read again Raissa blog, First Humanitarian Flight and GRATIS clearly stated
Lies covered with lies will not prosper
He he he
Cha says
Goodness gracious! Can you just leave me be? I already said I am not interested in what you have to say on this issue. Why does it bother you so much that I do not see it the same way as you? And just so you know that’s a rhetorical question. No need to answer.
Johnny Lin says
I’m not convincing you. I’m only exposing blatant lies based on what is written in the blog. the author said , “absolutely no charge first humanitarian flight” and you are telling lies that she bought her plane tickets
This is Raissa blog so people who tell lies should be exposed or else she would be seen as condoning comments filled with falsehood and that is not good for reputation and integrity.
Cha says
Now I’m the one peddling lies! You are really getting desperate.
For the nth time, go find someone who cares what you think. Stop stalking me. Have some self-respect.
Johnny Lin says
Now I’m stalking when you were the first one who initiated sarcastic comments on my post. You are going to deny this too, ain’t it?
Lies beget lies
Stay out of the kitchen if the heat is too much
He he he
Cha says
So we are all liars and intellectually inept for disagreeing with you.
You can keep on deluding yourself into thinking that you are winning the argument by poisoning the well, attacking our character, integrity and intellectual abilities as the untenability of your position becomes even clearer to everyone except you. But the tragedy in this all for you is that you have only really succeeded in exposing your own flaws. Everytime you’ve thrown mud in our direction, you have only made the view clearer for us to see into you.
So for the last time, I don’t care at all what you think. Even much less what you think of me.
crichton_prime says
This is Raissa blog and people who have iodine deficiency should be treated first before they can comment.
Johnny Lin says
I am donating my iodine to Raissa blog to attract more people like you. Everyone counts including cretins as long as they don’t cross the line
He he he
crichton_prime says
@ Johnny Lin: How can you donate iodine when you’re the iodine-deficient guy here, and fyi, the main cause of cretinism is iodine deficiency. The joke is on you Johnny Lin.
Johnny Lin says
Rene
You are rationalizing contrary to facts you posted.. Your own post 104 says that Wong saw the affluent because they arrived ahead of them meaning these affluent were in line waiting for tickets and Wong noticed them while she was in the airplane or she passed by them while going to the airplane. Nothing in the post of Wong said they were in line except the night before that she used her connections thru phone calls and the next day told relatives to secure two vehicles. ms Wong claimed that she helped also elderly, sick and poorly disabled to get in the plane but if she was in line how could she do it?
That’s why I told you to do the math beginning with passenger capacity of plane.
If she were in line and you said now only the affected people were given priority on that flight, how was she and the niece able to get on the plane since they came from Manila unless she told lies.
Lies covered by lies will be discovered from their own lips.
Very simple common sense and I am deducing truth from what were posted in this thread.
Rene-Ipil says
[email protected]
I am sure many CPA passengers were already holders of ticket several days before Yolanda hit Tacloban. On that day of Ms. Wong’s escape, maybe some people were just trying to secure tickets for boarding later on. I just don’t know for a fact how Ms. Wong got her boarding pass or ticket. I can only guess. In my narration of facts above, @120, only items 1 and 5 are based on Ms. Wong’s letter. The seven other items substantially came from other sources. The only fact I know insofar as the writings of Ms. Wong is concerned is that I posted them here. The alleged facts therein are Ms. Wong’s, not mine. So, I don’t have to rationalize facts not in my own allegation. And it is a fact that Ms. Wong and company had to line up before they could board the plane. I am sure also that those behind Ms. Wong had to line up also to bring themselves into the plane. Maybe others were not so lucky to beat the cut off number and were left behind. Lastly, I refer you to my post above in reply to Cha to get over this discussion on the character and motives of Ms. Wong. Let us move on to more important subjects.
Johnny Lin says
Rene
Please read my first sentence, “facts you posted”. I did not say your own facts.
We are here to interpret what Wong posted on her fb and posted as blog by Raissa.
Some praised her, others condemn her including me.
From the start#69, I said I did not want to spoil the party because her narrative was not only unbelievable but detrimental to those who needed help most.
She admitted clear and in plain language that her flights to and from Tacloban were humanitarian and free. Why even speculate in the first humanitarian flight tickets were sold. So, if tickets were sold, Wong was lying, making her saga untruthful, if not doubtful.
Analyzing her letter, one would focus on the humanitarian flights to find out the Truth if those suffering people deserved what they were due. Remember, the premise started with rescuing people without explained serious illness. That is why after reading the blog once, I knew that both flights were free of charge and I knew she used the word “gratis” The moment I read your #120 post, I immediately wrote my response that the flight was gratis. There are key words that are not forgotten in analyzing letters or documents for future reference.
If you have this in mind, facts, as you said from other sources, are irrelevant, because we are talking about Wong, her narration of facts according to her, no more, no less. If her words deviated from the facts one discovers, then Wong was weaving a fantasy tale. After analyzing all the facts she wrote, that is the time to take side.
“Take side with the brain, not the heart”
crichton_prime says
Johnny Lin…I reiterate….There are lots of errors in medicine…do you even know the ratio between idiopathic cases and treatable cases? In the darkness of your evil forsaken mind did you not realize why doctors ask you to sign waivers before they operate (e.g. doing surgery on an unserviceable cerebrum like yours). Of course you don’t know because you are a cretin, right?
doc_bert says
bloggers and trolls alike, one key question. if your were Ms. Wong who have family members in Leyte in such a situation and you have the resources and connections to go in and get out with them, what would you have done? People, Ms. Wong is not and should not be on trial as if she is a Napoles. If you don’t believe her, then don’t. But attacking her persona because she was able to do what you in your wildest imagination cannot does not make you a better person but reeks of hypocrisy. Read Heidelberg Principle – one cannot describe anything without describing him or her self warts and all.
The issues are whether the conditions in Samar and Leyte as reported are correct and, if so, what can be done about these to address their impact on the survivors, in particular, and the national psyche in general.
Johnny Lin says
Doc Bert
Hope you really swore under Hippocrates
If you read all the facts apparently written by her and her family posted in this thread, they knew all along everyone was alright and according to Wong herself, she gathered her relatives from 2 houses, not from towing the lines for relief foods, shelter and clothing.
Compassionate thing to do was bring some food for them from Manila and bring back only the one injured and children to Manila, not the entire 14 people so there will be more spared spaces on the plane for the sickly, pregnant women and elderly and children needing immediate care.
Remember, she was not sure from the get go that she would have transport back to Manila. she could have come for the rest after a week because they were still healthy and strong. Anyway she found out she had strong connections. She abused her connections making them unwilling accomplices trampling the needs of those with greater sufferings. Selfish interest followed by publicity were on play from the start to prove she had powerful connections.
If you have experience in emergency room, there is what you call triage, so those who are cared for first are those with more life threatening situation. This scenario was not different, that is why humans are known as intelligent animal species with feelings.
Believers of Heidelberg principle are admirers of Hitler, aside from a failed balloon. Stick with Hippocrates oath.
He he he
Johnny Lin says
Furthermore Doc Bert
You know why she should be condemned:
One of those plane seats she greedily grabbed thru connections could have been given to a more sickly person, somebody with broken bones or pregnant woman who could have benefitted from immediate medical care.
Or have you heard of the story of a 3 day old baby who died due to lack of hospital equipment which happened after Wong and relatives flied out. One of the hospital personnel could have heard the humanitarian flight and suggested to fly the baby out but due to lack of powerful connections and late information, they were told there was no more seat available in the plane.
One typhoon victim suffering again as victim of a selfish greedy person is one too many.
What made her more despicable was that she gloated on Facebook with pictures of her shady accomplishment.
Mary says
I agree with you Johnny. I learned of the guy who died of sepsis from an infected foot (or leg) injury…. had he been flown to a decent hospital using those mercy flight, his life could have been saved. How my heart bled for him and his poor wife who tried manually to provide oxygen to her husband, alas, he died even after the doctor operated on him due to lack of blood for transfusion …as you correctly conclude – one typhoon victim suffering again as victim of a selfish greedy person is one too many…
doc_bert says
yes, i did took the hippocratic oath back in 1983 and the key phrase of which is “do no harm”. and the doctors who do harm “unintentionally” are those who are arrogant.
now, Heidelberg Principle is a principle based on physical chemistry and has nothing to do with Hitler. look it up in google. to put it simply, the normal range of vision of humans is roughly 120 degrees. now, a complete circle is 360 degrees. for example, if you look a a mug of coffee with your right hand. you can only describe that side of the mug that you can see. to describe what is on the other side, you need to turn the mug.
another way to expand broadness of vision is to hold the mug between yourself and a mirror. in such manner, you see the side facing you and the side facing the mirror. also, you also see yourself in the mirror. that, sir, is the essence of the Heidelberg Principle.
Johnny Lin says
Do you understand “do no harm”
one injured typhoon victim to be victimized again by a greedy selfish person is one too many during times of calamities.
There were more injured people waiting for transport. Wong by grabbing seats for healthy and strong relatives of her HARMED those people with either broken bones, pregnant or sickly elderly that could have been transported for immediate medical care. Or it could have saved that 3 day old baby who died due to lack of hospital equipment. Who knows anyone of these people learned and needed early transport but were told there was no more spare seat because they have been grabbed by well connected people like Wong. Those poor sick people never had a chance due to lack of powerful connection like Wong. how many got worst with their illness like catching infection from broken bones because they were displaced by healthy persons on that plane?
One count is too many, if you know what this means on compassionate healing/treatment principle, where your Heidelberg does not apply because it was designed for Hitler’s admirers
He he he
Johnny Lin says
Doc Bert
By the way
“You said: those doctors who do harm unintentionally are arrogant”
What a waste of talent being a doctor. This is the fact
Those who do harm even how unintentional, are incompetent and negligent physicians. There is no room for error in medicine.
“One injured person inflicted by a physician is one too many”
doc_bert says
looks like the suggestion to look up Heidelberg Principle was not looked up in wikipedia by those fixated on the argument such that the logic bomb in the argument was not noticed and stepped upon with impunity. guess who now appear(s) in the blog to be the victim of arrogance?
crichton_prime says
There are lots of errors in medicine…do you even know the ratio between idiopathic cases and treatable cases? In the darkness of your evil forsaken mind did you not realize why doctors ask you to sign waivers before they operate (e.g. doing surgery on an unserviceable cerebrum like yours). Of course you don’t know because you are a cretin, right?
Johnny Lin says
Crichton prime
That’s why they are incompetent and sued for malpractice except in the Philippines like you are advocating.
It’s not surprising with tone of advocacy, corruption, abusive and being a thief is ingrained in the body and soul
He he he
crichton_prime says
If I were Miss Wong, I will do exactly the same thing, if I were Johnny Lin, I will go around talking about the Hippocrates Oath, or what’s the compassionate thing to do, etc., etc., cause I won’t have time to grandstand, or deal with my conscience or whatever in front of the strongest typhoon to ever hit earth, all I have is the basic instinct that ‘I have the resources, I will go save the people close to me’. Even God has his ‘Chosen people’, He is all powerful but He chose to save only His chosen ones.
Johnny Lin says
Everyone has a choice, ability how to think and worry about their fallen brothers, but not everyone has moral fibers running deep in the fibers and veins
Stick with marvel comics, really appropriate with Krichter and prime.
crichton_prime says
Moral fibres…….running deep in the fibers and veins……man I was right all along….you are manic-depressive….obsessive-compulsive. bipolar-disordered, sociopath, beyond reform creteneic blob disguised as a human being, how the hell did you get to gate crash this site!!
Johnny Lin says
Cricket
Who else. Gate crashing was specialty of Wong, your selfish relative. She is the poster woman of name dropping to grab headlines.
Bakla man daw at mahinhin mahirap linlangin
Mabuti mga bakla Hindi peke na kagaya ng kamaganak mong Geraldine
He he he.
crichton_prime says
@ Johnny Lin: I may have poor command of the English language, but the degree at which you obfuscate common grammatical rules is awe-inspiring.
Stick w/ marvel comics…oh really!!!! For the first time, in all of your uneventful musings you have amused me dickhead!!
crichton_prime says
She did not find out she had strong connections, she knew she had connections that’s why she went there. she did not abuse connections, she re-claimed what some people owed here.
In triage, someone always breaks the rules, like when the president who rules the land always gets first class treatment when his sickness was only iodine deficeincy, you get what I mean?
Johnny Lin says
She knew she had connections that is why she went there. She trampled the ability of the more sickly victims and poor people to receive immediate medical care without powerful connections. This is Wong
You sound like a relative of Wong defending her action. DNA connection.
People who knew they have political connections so they go into action, falsify documents to steal money, deprived the poor. Napoles anyone!
looks similar, different modus.
He he he
crichton_prime says
The ‘Hippocratic Oath’ looks like you fell in love with the word and looks like you’re trying to own It like the hell you can.It applies only to people who have real intelligence…and I mean real intelligence and it doesn’t apply to you,
.
doc_bert says
I agree with some of the points crichton_prime raised. But then again, it takes a lot of self-control to disabuse self-abused minds who fall in love with their tag lines. Like some people who write commentaries and statements without checking the facts and circumstances.
There is a lot of difference between Hippocratic Oath and Hypocritic Oath. Heidelberg Principle and Heidelberg Zeppelin. Of looking at the mirror to find who’s talking. Sorry for the guy who got banned from this blog and sorrier for those who suffered the noxious methane-filled airheads belching in cyber forum.
HighFive says
Wondering if the high winds that typhoon Haiyan is pushing on the ocean’s surface was slowed down by the coral reefs at Spratly & Paracels before it hit Vietnam as there are no reports of giant waves that hit Vietnam’s coast. Typhoon Haiyan’s decrease in speed makes me think that coral reefs in the sea or coral reefs on the sea floor may serve as shield to protect the coastal shores water from overflowing into the land.
I hope the people studying about the weather conduct a study on how corals play an important role in preventing the sea water from entering the land so that preservation of corals will be taken seriously by governments of the world.
crichton_prime says
Low five!!
Doddsman says
Always blaming to anybody, why not go and do what you can helped…
drill down says
criticism that keeps the govt honest and on its toes itself is help because it improves the quality of the govt.
drill down says
praising the govt when it’s not justified, on the other hand, is not help because it does nothing to improve the quality of the govt and may actually degrade it.
andrew lim says
ARE THERE EFFORTS TO SABOTAGE AID EFFORTS DELIBERATELY?
Oplan Hatid was conceived by private citizens to ferry arriving refugees from Tacloban to their destinations in Metro Manila and elsewhere after arriving in Villamor Air Base. It was a very good idea, very Good Samaritan and one of its organizers, James Deakin (a motoring journalist) went on a media blitz to call for more volunteers.
It lasted a few days, then govt authorities decided to transfer these operations to Camp Aguinaldo since the volume of the incoming refugees and the burgeoning operations (volunteers for Oplan Hatid were allowed to go inside Villamor) was affecting the operations of the air force inside the base. The DSWD also decided to transfer its repacking to Camp Aguinaldo, presumably for larger space.
The reaction of the organizers? Drama. Look at the Facebook posts of Junep Ocampo and James Deakin. They cited turf war between govt agencies. Or the heartlessness of the DSWD.
“The turf war has led to confusing and arbitrary changes in rules and policies, making it difficult for volunteers and those who want to volunteer to help the survivors of typhoon Yolanda. Puro sarili lang nila ang iniisip nila,” – Cel Ocampo, wife of Junep Ocampo, one of the organizers. Ocampo ended his post with: “May God have mercy on our country.”
(Phil Star Nov 21, 2013, 1238pm)
The real reason for the transfer? AFP spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Ramon Zagala said the congestion was starting to interrupt the operations in the military airport based in Pasay City. (Inquirer Nov 21, 2013, 4;23pm)
Until I remembered the that one of the organizers of Oplan Hatid was Junep Ocampo, who tried to organize that EDSA anti-pork rally which people shied away from because of reports that it was being organized by politicians and had different goals aside from pork barrel abolition.
Are they trying to find every fault and crack in the delivery of services of govt, then shout to the world their unfounded drama?
Is this the strategy of helping then criticizing? Or is it helping then sabotaging?
Alan says
That point about Ocampo is a good insight, worth looking into
showstopper says
tanamo mo duwag…lol…matapang lang sa online ahaha kpg nagkasalubong tayo, babangasin ko lalo mukha mo, mas dadapa yang ilong mo.kabaligtaran ni Honesto, sayo kpag nagsisinungaling, padapa ang ngyayari s ilong ahaha
Alan says
Wow, ang bagsik ni totoy. Sabihin mo lang kung saan mo gustong magkita. Pero teka, nakalimutan ko, duwag ka nga pala. Fake name, bogus account, IP spoofer, walang litrato. Siguro tinataguan mo mga magulang mo ano? Malamang andyan ka lang sa cybercafe, nagaabang ng manananakawan ng gamit. Eh paano kita makikilala kung anonymous coward ka?
Ganito na lang. Isuot mo na lang yung palda mong polka dot
kore says
OMG! you’re acting like a juvenile hanging out on the streets, with no parents to supervise you, teach you manners. just like a regular bully……shame, shame, shame….
kore says
my comment is for mr. showstopper, not for you alan.
Alan says
I know kore, thanks. For everybody’s information, the entity known as showstopper has been on Twitter (account showstopper_29) the past week pornographically cursing Raissa like the true coward that his parents raised him to be. Read the tweets to find out how sadly deficient and limited his upbringing was
showstopper says
lol ang linis mo naman Boy Dapa.isama mo n rin yung punggok mong asawa. nsa CyberCafe ako?lol ni wala nga ako makitang i-cafe dito sa SoCal.Wow kayo lng b pwede mag ‘name calling”?basahin mo nga mga comment mo Boy Dapa. Ano akala mo sa sarili mo Diyos?Laging tama?Masyado naman bilib mo sa sarili mo… Nakatapat ka ng sing-hambog mo at ayaw din patalo.cge, kain lang ako hapunan. Abangan ko kung ano yung susunod mong kayabangan.
Alan says
Kaya pala naman ang bilis mong manghamon, wala ka naman palang balak magpakita. Basta kung pupunta ka dito suotin mo yung palda mong polka dot ha?
doc_bert says
wouldn’t Fort Bonifacio be better than Camp Aguinlado if transport by aircraft? if by watercraft, at Folk Arts Center which is near the ports and HQ-PN? If they think of accessibility to volunteers and workspace, these are the places to go particularly if to coordinate closely with the USN Battle Group with the USS Essex Chinook helicopter carrier stationed off Leyte Gulf.
So the concern of the anti-pork people of the Medusa’s head of trapo politics appears well-founded considering the volume of traffic along EDSA and the C-6 section from Libis to Fort Bonifacio to Villamor Air Base. Congestion they speak of?
This is no time for GO-NGO-Business Sector bickering. Now let’s see how Malacanan put what the Public-Private Partnership it has been bandying about in action. The key word is logistics like Fedex hub and spokes network not political and bureaucratic positioning and jockeying.
Would it not be better if the AFP focus their attention on sending their Military Engineers and SeaBees to the area to clear landing zones and access roads, dig up wells for fresh water, restore power for signals? How about sending part of the the Medical Corp and Nurses Corp to address the possibility of epidemic given the litters of dead people and animals, debris and waste that can be serve as contagion points?
oemor330ci says
After all this years, our government is still in denial. No matter how we chop or slice it, our government is broken and it needs fixing and it has to start from the top. Anderson Cooper’s coverage, even though some people perceived it as insensitive and inaccurate, sends a message around the world how incompetent our government is and the world is watching. This is a good thing.
moonie says
incompetent government can be improved, can still go up and gather strength. there’s room for improvement and to make better.
I dont like those govenments that pretend to be competent and yet spied on their neighbors and gather info, putting foreign heads of state under secret electronic surveillance.
doc_bert says
p.s. i would like to request the Commander in Chief to order the flying of our flag at half mast until the dead are buried properly, the wounded in body and mind received medical attention, and the missing found and returned to their families.
and, if it is possible for at least one of the two remaining elders to call out for yesterday’s youth to pray to mother ignacia at mount samat – not for national defense but for civil defense to help out those in region 8 – and thus let the rainbow come out over the gray clouded skies over Samar and Leyte.
doc_bert says
before this, i read the blog of Ms. Knauv that I find as a clinical peace of her mind for which she got flak for what she said. by clinical, i say objective and saying it as it is from the point of view of operations management. i could not help but wonder that the emotional open letter of Ms. Wong also got the flak for saying what she went through.
reel back a bit to the reportage of ex-Cong. Ted Failon. have you ever seen that rather cold anchorperson lost his British stiff upper lip type of reportage when reporting on what happened and what is happening in Tacloban. by stiff upper lip, i say that objectivity like Spock complete with that trademark raising of eyebrow on the the inanity of the confusion of thought, conversations and actions happening around him. that is how Ms. Knauv felt over the downed communications and logistics network.
but then again, Ted Failon is also from that area. he’s got relatives there. he’s worried about them but he has his job to do. and he got emotional in his reportage to the point of asking for the army to step in to stop the looting and the taking advantage of the weak by the stronger survivors. that is what Ms. Wong went though.
guys, it is easy to find blame. it is easy to criticize. Ted Failon went there. Ms. Wong went there. Ms Knauv was not able to go there. have you asked why they went there and why Ms. Knauv did not go there? and have you asked yourself what you are doing to help those in need of help and those doing what they can to help those in need?
for those who have not been to samar and leyte to see the poverty, it is easy to say things from the comfort of the airconditioned room tapping on your desktop or notebook. but, may i ask, which is easier to one’s conscience … to boost the moral of the victims and samaritans by asking for pictures of the physical and psychological damage as well as what are being done to address these – or – to castigate whoever and whatever just to justify the feeling of guilt for letting things to happen, of guilt for not reaching out to help or for help to those in need.
those out there to help are doing in a triage situation. mistakes are likely to be made given the scarcity of resources, need for immediate action, and communication-logistic network failure. as for those setting up political taglines, this i have to say: let us see how you go beyond talk and press releases to actually helping your countrymen in need of healing both of body and livelihood. you can’t get votes from the dead but from the living unless you rig the hocus-picos machine to count obituaries as ballots.
Antonio Falcon says
Why do you guys insist on giving Noynoy Aquino a free pass? Are you too yellow to see through this guy? Or do you just hate the Romualdezes/Marcoses more to acknowledge that this president was never the right person for the job right from the start?
The funny thing is that most of these same people have no problem blaming Binay, Roxas, Korina Sanchez and just about everyone except the one person that in Peque Gallaga’s words, continues to play politics with people’s lives.
Noynoy is being blamed because he is the president. The buck stops with him. It’s part of his job description to get flak when he is not perceived to do his job well in times like this. And many believe he isn’t.
It’s been almost four years. If you’re still entertaining thoughts that BS Aquino is some kind of savior or transformative figure for this country, then God help us for the remainder of his term.
raissa says
First of all, your premise is wrong.
These guys are not giving him a free pass.
Second of all – are you a Gibo lover?
Your phrase – this president was never the right person for the job right from the start – gives you away.
Antonio Falcon says
Yes, I voted for Gibo, Raissa. And so what if I did? He probably won’t do a better job in handling this crisis than Aquino ever did. But he’s not the president right now so that conjecture is irrelevant.
Everyone who adopts the now oft-repeated line, ‘Don’t criticize, just help’ is consciously or subconsciously giving Noynoy (I couldn’t even get myself to call him PNoy) a free pass. Everyone who echoes a similar sentiment as this Geraldine Wong is giving BS Aquino a free pass. Everyone who points a finger blaming the Romualdezes or the local governments for this calamity is giving this president a free pass.
The Marcoses are history, Raissa. It’s been almost 30 years since Marcos has been ousted as president. Cory and her successors had the full resources of their government and they couldn’t nail the surviving Marcoses, couldn’t send them to jail. They couldn’t get the job done and I doubt if Noynoy can either. He can’t even get his government’s act right in this tragedy.
You want to play the blame game? Blame the ones in power, on the national scale.
raissa says
I was just guessing you voted for Gibo.
Because you sounded like all the other people who voted for him. That’s all.
If you stay around here long enough, you will notice that commenters here in cyber Plaza Miranda are of different minds when it comes to PNoy.
As for the Marcoses being history, they are not.
The reason the marcoses were not nailed was that Ferdinand Marcos pleaded he was too ill to stand trial in New York and then he died. If you are a lawyer, you would know that criminal cases can hardly prosper without the principal being indicted and convicted.
The Marcos family still owes a HUGE APOLOGY to the Filipino people for what they did.
Justice has not been fulfilled
showstopper says
ito logic ni Raissa: “Martial Law” victim=responsible si Marcos sa lahat. Mendiola Massacre=Alfredo Lim kasi xa head ng mga pulis that time.She always find a way to deflect or shield Cory Aquino. yan ang Yellow Blooded-Yellow Army tlga, certified. tapos sa Yolanda Crisis, isa sa mga unang hinanap ni Raissa aside from Romualdez(mayor) eh c Imelda Marcos. parang walang alam sa current events or latest news, nsa hospital c Imelda.saka 80++ y/o n matandang babae, gusto yata on-site agad makikita nya na tumutulong sa mga victims.
walang patawad, d man lang palipasin yung trahedya,sa kagustuhan mapasama sa mata ng readers or followers nya mga Marcos family. Propagandist ka hindi journalist
raissa says
LOL.
Alan says
Tama! di ba dapat patawarin ang mga hayop ng pumatay ng libo-libong Pilipino,pinahirapan ang milyon-milyon mamamayan nagnakaw ng 10 billion dollars, sinira ang ekonomiya, nilason ang political system — WENO? wala yun! biruin mo, yun lang ginawa, ayaw pang patawarin. Di ba pareng showstopper? tama ba engot?
showstopper says
una sa lahat,hindi kita Pare lol. and nakaharap ka yata sa salamin at nasabihan mo ng “engot” ang sarili mo. lol
Alan says
That’s the best you can do? no wonder you’re a Marcos loyalist. You have the IQ absence for it
Antonio Falcon says
Wow! You sound like you’re talking from first-hand experience, Alan. Tell me, have you and Raissa actually spent a single hour in jail during martial law or are you just like your good friend, Conrado De Quiros? Just among those armchair Marcos critics who just base their declarations on what they read from third party sources?
Incidentally, the anti-Marcos crusade you continue to engage in is becoming a lonelier battle every day for you. Every year, millions who enter the voting age don’t even care about the Marcoses anymore. And for good reason, they no longer affect our lives, the present administration does.
Besides, Marcos has been dead for almost 30 years. Really, the only thing you’re achieving by kicking a dead horse is to bring it back to life.
showstopper says
halos lahat ng ayaw or nagsasabing wala magandang dinulot ang Martial Law, eh mga aktibista gaya ng mga madalas mag welga sa kamaynilaan ngayun.ginawang trabaho yung pagiging istorbo sa lansangan.dpat pala lahat ng pinoy during martial law era except syempre sa kampi k marcos, eh kasama or dumagdag dun s almost 10K Martial Law victims na nanalo sa kaso kasi walang magandang dinulot ang martial law so lahat ng pinoy that time eh biktima, lahat dpat my compensation. ewan ko lang kung c Raissa and AnoAlanMo eh “biktima” rin tlga during Martial Law era or naging malaking balakid sa buhay nila yun lol
Alan says
Well, if one thing we achieve by “kicking a dead horse” is to irritate the hell out of suck up loyalists like you, I’d say it’s worth it, Mister Marcos Falcon
showstopper says
AnoAlanMo mas mukhang iritable ka nga kesa k @falcon lol
Alan says
I’m so worried. HAHAHAHAHA
kore says
imelda could have sent her people distributing food/water and we will know because the plastic bags will have her face printed on it just like all the other politicians. with all the stolen money in trillions of dollars, this can be done in a flick of her fingers….in coma or half-dead in the hospital…. i feel sorrier to the typhoon victims than her because i am sure she’s under a warm blanket in a comfortable room with gourmet food to eat and medications to keep her condition in check……
Antonio Falcon says
“Well, if one thing we achieve by “kicking a dead horse” is to irritate the hell out of suck up loyalists like you, I’d say it’s worth it, Mister Marcos Falcon”
You know what’s worth it? The Marcoses getting elected to public office again and again because anal retentive critics like you won’t leave them alone.
Alan says
We don’t doubt it, thanks to mealymouthed apologists such as Antonio and Falcon. Don’t worry we’ll still be here making fun of them by pointing out their inconveniently gruesome past, and their even more gruesome followers
crichton_prime says
, it is estimated that Marcos alone stole at least $5 billion from the Filipino treasury……..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Marcos (Marcos legacy)
macspeed says
stealers thingking is just as thick as a thin thread he he he kaparehas ni napoles, when FM stole those money, his cpu was so thin that the logic was gone…when reasoning was gone, so was the faith in God…
when one dies, he/she cannot bring a centavo in the next level he he he wala mabibilhan ng kendi duon o kahit hopia he he he
kore says
marcos has a bank account offshore with a deposit of 500Billion U.S. DOLLARS BACK IN 1983. WITH A 44 EXCHANGE RATE PER 1 usd =
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
you do the math. TRILLIONS….!!! isang bank account lang yun, remember !!!!!
Antonio Falcon says
Gibo is non-confrontational and more conciliatory towards just about everyone, the Marcoses probably included. He ran on a platform that prioritizes economy over everything else. He’s all about moving forward, and not about living in the past. We voted for him because we believe he was a unifying figure and would make a great president.
Noynoy ran on an anti-corruption platform that essentially prioritizes vendetta disguised as justice. The fact that he continues to wear that stupid yellow ribbon pin on his chest instead of the Philippine flag demonstrate how much of a divisive figure he really is.
Alan says
I certainly remember Teodoro’s speech at the Intercon where he said it was useless to run after big tax evaders and that the focus may as well be on taxing the poor indirectly. That your idea of a unifying figure?
I also remember how, during Ondoy, the Department of Defense (which Teodoro headed) admitted it had the grand total of TWO rubber boats for rescue operation. That must be what you mean by moving forward
Then there’s the inconvenient fact that Teodoro admitted that he spent his career as a lawyer defending the ill-gotten gains of Danding Cojuangco and Lucio Tan. That must be what you mean by “good governance”
Well he was certainly a unifying figure — he united the electorate in rejecting him haha. How many percent of the vote did he get again? please don’t cry
showstopper says
Gago pala talaga itong si AnoAlanMo…. kagaya ni PNoy n my saltik sa pag-iisip… between Gibo & sayo, AnoAlanMo, i’m sure mas maraming naitulong si Gibo sa ibang tao kesa sayo. lol
raissa says
YOu are no longer contributing anything valuable to the conversation.
You’re just trolling.
This is a warning before I ban you.
showstopper says
Ms. Raissa trolling!?!? FYI sino ba unang sinabihan ng “engot” ? mababasa mo na naman siguro. saka yung mga sagot ni “ALAN” n asawa mo yata xa, sa comment ko ang mga trolling tapos gumanti lang ako at ginaya the way xa mag troll sa mga comments ko, “no longer contributing anything valuable…” Wow galit ka sa mga Marcoses dahil s mga injustices pero parang ganun narin ginagawa mo.
raissa says
Troll.
Alan says
Psst showstopper, I have a job, a real one. Ikaw, do you even have a real identity? Mukang singaw ka lang. Singaw na nagmamahal kay Bangkay Makoy mwah mwah. Baka naman you’re the alter ego of Mister Falcon? put the two of you together and you get a halfwift. A Marcos loving, Gibo drooling halfwit
macspeed says
@falcon
vendetta my ass, i dont think you understand this word. Since Ninoy and Galman were murdered, until now no court, newpaper or magazine that showed who the mastermind was.
Filipinos are not dumb including you, the soldiers were the killers who shot Ninoy and Galman, who was the general og those murderers? and who was the boss of that general???
7th great grand children will have that subtle impact, maybe less, but still painfull to those innocent future marcoses…
it is not painfull if you will stop re-living that incident, it is gone, the mastermind was dead, no need to make waves to alter what?
Aquino Family deep inside their heart has that feeling of sadness the way Ninoy was murdered…so stop bullshitting this cyber plaza by reasoning out FM was far better than any of the Pres…
It is very hard to live behind the shadow of FM, he was gone, live a new life and get harmonize with mother earth is more better than harmonizing with politics…
Magaling pa naman grammars mo, bakit di mo gamitin sa tamang paraan he he he
kore says
the marcoses? A-P-O-L-O-G-I-Z-E ???? only people with high moral character understand the word…
mention the word to imelda, bongbong, imee etc. and they will ask you how many billions it is when converted to philippine pesos.
andrew lim says
@ Mr Falcon,
If you will indulge me, can you specifically outline for us where your indignation takes you – what exactly is your goal and what you hope to accomplish with it?
Let’s assume for sake of discussion you extract whatever it is you want – Pnoy getting the full blame, etc. Then what?
kore says
4 years in power and you’re expecting everything will be honky dory? it might work for a small business, but for a whole country rampant with graft and corruption amongst the senators and congresspeople who are criminals to the bone, a president needs much more than 4 years, my friend…..so much more……..
use your brain and think intelligently…..not wishy-washy……
don’t blame P’noy. blame the corrupt government officials……they are the root of all the mess our country is in.
crichton_prime says
…..the now oft-repeated line…..blah blah blah…everyone… blah blah blah blah….free pass.. ypu relating Aquino to some free pass….
you epitomize nothingness… cause you worked for money for so long you have principles no more,,,,asshole!!!
showstopper says
Raissa is a certified Marcos/Romualdez hater.so biased tlga opinyon nyann
raissa says
I don’t HATE the Marcoses.
I HATE what they did to the country.
I HATE how they think it’s alright for them to strut around and display their wealth and think they have been forgiven.
showstopper says
strut around and display their wealth?saka hindi nman pwedeng pilitin mo yung mga tao n gumaya sa paniniwala mo at magalit prin s mga marcoses.ipagpalagay natin my kasalanan c Ferdinand marcos s mga pinoy,ang kasalanan b ng ama ay kasalanan rin ng mga anak?
kore says
Ang mga anak ay equally guilty dahil kung mayroon silang high moralilty, isasauli nila ang lahat ng ninakaw ng magulang nila. what is happening is they are nagpapasarap sa buhay gamit ang mga ninakaw na pera ng magulang. may isip na sila para itama ang mali.
Tomas Gomez III says
Right on!…..Raissa. Marcos will for all eternity remain a moral issue. Evidently, the misguided many (still) who tenaciously cling to their adulation of Marcos are entitled to their zealotry. Unfortunately, such display of misguided faith is also evidence of questionable moral values.
showstopper says
wow…questionable moral values?just because hindi against ang mga ibang tao s marcoses, meron n agad silang questionable moral values?ganun pala yun, kpg yung tao iba ang opinyon or paniniwala, questionable n moral values.masyado ka naman manghusga
Alan says
Tama! sapagkat si showstopper na anonymous entity sa Internet ay pinaka supreme being who knows everything, di ba?
showstopper says
iligo mo lang yan Mr. Ano Alan mo?lol
Alan says
So, what’s your first name, show, or stopper? Ah yes, you’re just another anonymous marcos loving troll, right?
showstopper says
hanap ka ng kausap mo AnoAlanMo. lol
Alan says
Aww, you miss Marcos don’t you? Kiss kiss da Apo Bangkay?
macspeed says
@show stopper
suppose ikaw ang anak ni napoles, or FM, you will just ignore media and live as normal as you can, you will tell yourself not guilty di naman ako yun he he he well that is correct, sin of parents are not your sins, however, spending the looted money will be an equal sin that shall be used for judgment here and the hereafter he he he
kore says
to showstopper,
i think i know who you are. your real name is irene marcos, di ba?
its about time na i-marcha mo ang ina mo at mga kapatid sa opis op d president of d pilipins para isauli ang lahat ng ninakaw ng ina at ama at mga kapatid mo sa kaban ng bayan. its the right time to du it, hija. bi da gud goil en du it rayt naw. God bless you if you do it now…..mahiya na kayo, mga kapalmuks.
Antonio Falcon says
It’s not true that they are forgiven and it’s not true that they did not suffer. They had their share of setbacks and suffering.
Unlike Ninoy, Marcos was not even allowed to come home when his mother died. He eventually died away from his country, most likely in a lot of pain.
Much of the so-called Marcos wealth has been recovered, many immediately after the PCGG sequestered everything that has been suspiciously associated with them and their relatives/cronies. There are millions in escrow at PNB. There are those who former PCGG Chairman David Castro has been reported to have looted away with.
If that is not enough, if they had not suffered any jail time, if they had better lawyers who did a better job of defending them in the legal arena compared to the Phil government lawyers, if they are back in public office, then that is no longer their fault. Again, blame it on the inability and incompetence of their successors not only to nail them but also to make them irrelevant to people.
When you hear people say, ‘mabuti pa nung panahon ni Marcos’ ( and you still hear that a lot especially in the provinces), that speaks volumes about their successors who failed to do any better.
So Raissa, sa Aquinos ka magalit, huwag sa Marcoses.
raissa says
You mistake suffering with justice.
The phrase -‘mabuti pa nung panahon ni Marcos’ ( and you still hear that a lot especially in the provinces) – speaks volumes about how the Marcos dictatorship controlled media so much so that all the extra-judicial executions, all the atrocities in the countryside, all the arrests – were not reported in the media. And therefore the people were not made aware of it.
The marcos propganda machine was phenomenal in scope.
So your sentence is illogical.
Antonio Falcon says
For a lot of people, poetic justice has been served the minute Marcos was overthrown. You’ll be surprised that many more even considered the matter a closed book when he died.
The only thing the decreasing legal cases against the Marcoses achieved is cost a lot of taxpayers money used in legal fees for cases that mostly ended up being dismissed in the courts. Even if it did, it probably ended up in the pockets of unscrupulous PCGG officials. If there’s anything anyone (especially Noynoy) should apologize for, it’s for Cory Aquino’s creation of that single evil government agency that is the PCGG.
If Imelda is truly ill at this time, then that’s the law of karma catching up with her. Should she apologize for her role in Martial Law? Perhaps she should. But even if she doesn’t, that is something that she has to answer to her creator when the time comes.
But Bongbong, Imee and Irene? They had nothing to do with their father’s decisions during that time. And what will that say about them as children if they will publicly acknowledge any of their father’s alleged wrongdoing? It’s just not in the nature of children or Filipinos for that matter to turn their back on their own parents.
raissa says
Bongbong, Imee and Irene – are still trying with all their might to get their hands on the ill-gotten wealth.
To this day.
And Bongbong had a hand in trying to withdraw the Swiss money soon after 1986 Edsa. Look for my article on that somewhere in this blog.
andrew lim says
“And what will that say about them as children if they will publicly acknowledge any of their father’s alleged wrongdoing?”
This is amoral familism, where crime becomes a family enterprise and it develops a code of its own. Where “honor thy father and mother” becomes an excuse for the criminal activities of the father and mother.
This is dangerous stuff, I do not know what religion or philosophy endorses this. “Thou shalt not steal and thou shalt not kill ” is not extinguished by “honor thy father and mother”!
The Japanese guy who gave some money for aid to Tacloban had a father who served as a soldier here in WW2. He barely knew his father who died in combat. Yet among other reasons, he gave the money as a sort of apology for all that his father may have hurt here while in uniform.
He’s Japanese but I think that is more human and consistent with Christianity than Mr Falcon’s view.
Evil is evil, and if your parents committed it, you cannot condone it.
Diablo says
We always have something to say about sitting presidents and that has been going on for decades. Marcos for all the good that he has done is still somewhat worshiped by his loyalist simply because his Ilokano. 20 years is a long time, naturally if any sitting president is given that much time say PNoy he’ll render FM’s insignificant. Plus FM did it with an iron grip on the PH with his Martial Law.
Bong-Bong Marcos is now part of the PDAF scam, so I guess he started what his father did during his time and that is to take more what he already has.
Going back to the topic, I read it and believe it to be a true account of things. Sad though the large 5 meters high water really brought everything down.
macspeed says
@agent44 falcon
You have mentioned the Creator, one has to answer when questioned during the appointed time he he he
those who uses illigal money will be in the same level as the original looter.
suppose you are my son, i rob 1 million $US he he he then i gave it to due to my limited time to live, i dont need to question you, you will use some and keep some, spend wisely, though you knew, it is bad money…
well no scape on judgment day, one can never lie in front of the Creator…
kore says
if bongbong, imee and irene don’t want to be involved in their father’s (and mother’s) crime, give back all the money stolen by their parents
to the Philippine government. return up to the last cent, plus interests.
that’s the only way you will exonerate yourselves.
raissa says
True.
showstopper says
ok hindi aware ang mga tao sa totoong kaganapan nun martial law kasi hndi reported sa media. napatalsik ang mga marcoses, naupo c Cory,nasa kanya ang powers pra gumawa ng paraan at ipaalam sa mga taong walang alam sa tunay n pangyayari during martial law/marcos regime,nagawa ba ng Aquino admin ito?sinulit b nila yung pagkakataon na meron sila na ipamulat sa mga tao ang katotohanan gaya ng sabi mo ms. raissa?im sure gumawa sila ng hakbang pra gawin yun, pero bakit hanggang ngayun marami prin ang nagsasabi na “buti pa nun martial law”?bakit buhay prin ang political career ng mga marcoses?nasa Aquino admin lahat ng makinarya at resources after EDSA1, pero kulang prin kasi hindi lahat ng tao nakaranas ng kalupitan nun martial law.hindi lahat galit s marcoses kaya wala nagawa ang Aquino admin, khit hawak nila gobyerno hindi sapat pra pasamain ang mga marcoses sa lahat tao at paniwalain na ganun ang madilim at tinagong kaganapan nun martial law.anjan kayong mga yellow army, pra magsulat at magcompile ng martial law abuses pra malaman ng taong bayan,hindi parin kayo sapat para makumbinsi ang mga pinoy n masama nga talaga at madilim ang martial law rule ni Makoy. ganun lang yun, tanggapin mo n lng na hindi mo pede ipilit sa lahat na kung ano ang pananaw at paniniwala mo, ganun din dpat sila.
Alan says
See, a real Marcos loyalist nga. Hey showstopper, you wouldn’t happen to have any sources for all those claims you make would you? baka kasi tinuruan ka ng “research” sa high school.
showstopper says
AnoALANMo yan lang kaya mo? #trollfail lol
Alan says
Somewhere in the Philippines a village is missing its idiot. We have found him
macspeed says
@showstopper
wala ka namang pinipili ng pamumulitika, pati ba naman dito di oras ng botohan panay ingay mo na, tama na yan, tumulong ka na lang sa mga nangangailanagn…baka sumukat ka pa o pagpalaing ng Allah…
showstopper says
@macspeed – wala kang pakialam.
Alan says
Looks like somebody’s about to be flushed down the toilet. Sino kamo? Hints:
(1) Name starts with “S” and ends with “r”;
(2) loves Marcos very very very very very very very much mwah mwah.
kore says
ganun din ang dapat mong gawin. accept people’s view opposed to ur own. may personal/specific reasons ang mga tao kung bakit sila galit kay makoy. huwag mong ipagpilitan ang pagtatanggol mo sa isang taong maraming nagawang atrocities during his regime. kung baga, huwag mong ipagtaggol si satanas. ganun lang yun.
Alan says
Boy, this Falcon is really making my heart bleed. Stop it oh stop it, the poor suffering Marcoses! where are the violins? Next shall we wipe their teary crocodilian eyes for them? or maybe they can wipe it with the billions of dollars they stole? the same way they wiped their asses with the bill of rights and the constitution?
kore says
can you imagine a USD500Billion deposited in one account? One foreign bank? A marcos controlled account? Multiply that by 45 peso/US dollar conversion will equal to&&&&&&&&&&& teka, ikaw na nga ang mag-compute. nahihilo ako sa dami ng zeros. nakakabobo sa dami….
andrew lim says
@ Mr Falcon
I get the impression you are eager to extract accountability for incompetence, but not plunder or gross human rights violations.
And inability to get justice extinguishes the crime?
If I use your line of thinking, then if Noynoy cannot be held accountable for incompetence in handling the Yolanda crisis, then that is the fault of your group since you failed to nail him and make him irrelevant.
Antonio Falcon says
I don’t know if you have any knowledge of law, Mr Lim. There are statutes of limitations or periods of prescription as to how long a lawsuit can be pursued. Not sure which one applies to the Marcos civil or criminal lawsuits but to answer your question, the inability to get justice especially after a lengthy period of time does extinguish the crime.
Oh, as for plunder especially related to the pork barrel scandal, Noynoy should also be blamed for that. Keep in mind that even when Aquino was Senator, Sen. Panfilo Lacson has been batting for the abolition of PDAF. Aquino was not receptive to it even back then. When he became president, Noynoy demonstrated unwillingness to abolish the PDAF. He could have been prevented the scandal if he had the political will. Now look at where we are now, no thanks to him.
What else? One year after he was ousted as Chief Justice, Noynoy’s student government has yet to formally charged with plunder. The best that they could do? And whatever happened to those tax evasion charges against him? Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
And gross human rights violations? You might want to check on Cory Aquino’s record on this area (which not a few have declared to be even worse than Marcos). While the Ampatuan massacre did not happen on Noynoy’s watch, the fact that justice has yet to be served after four years…well, that in a nutshell is Noynoy Aquino’s human rights record for you.
Alan says
It’s amazing how the Gibo-loving Falcon’s hate has blinded him so much that he minimizes the colossal and epic damage done by the Marcoses on the one hand while doing his best to boost the alleged crimes of this administration on the other. Quite a contortion act, most amusing.
“Statute of limitations”? criminal cases are ongoing against the Marcoses even as we speak, so what statute are you speaking of, the ones in your one-sided mind?
andrew lim says
Finally, we get you to reveal your revisionist agenda. No need to debate your points, it’s useless. Everything should be blamed on Aquino, and the Marcoses did nothing wrong.
Fellow CPMers, this is what a Marcos revisionist sounds like.
Alan says
I wouldn’t call him a “revisionist”, that word still has has some kind of academic integrity and cachet. Instead call him a “denier” — putting him in the cellar with the types of pseudo historians Irving and Faurisson and Zundel, who deny that Hitler and the Nazis EVER EVER killed any Jews. Falcon Marcos lover boy here denies the poor poor, super sexy Marcoses EVER EVER did any harm to the country.
moonie says
many would like to be like the marcoses and suffer in luxury. marcos dying in pain? I dont agree with that. he has all the money in the world to pump himself up with fentanyl, morphine, oxycontin and all others potent pain killers, kaya hanggang ngayon his body is still pickled. very well preserved yata and hindi basta-bastang ma-decompose. looks like imelda is going to have the same fate. she’ll be pickled as well and preserved. mr and mrs pickled, side to side. no dust to dust for them. bury them in the ground and the poor worms will get drug overdose, ha, ha, ha. better keep them above ground.
Antonio Falcon says
Oh, I’m not denying or revising anything. I’m not going to dispute everything you guys say about the Marcoses. They did this, they did that. Fine. There is no point in revising or denying history.
But see, that’s exactly what it is–history. Past tense. Over and done with.
Moving forward, all the atrocities attributed to the Marcoses are still happening: the human rights violations, the insurgents, the separatists, the plunder, the corruption–all of them stronger than ever.
Speaking of human rights, you might want to check out the latest update of the Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism on the Ampatuan case under Noynoy 4 years later.
Better yet, check out Noynoy’s human rights record as documented by Human Rights Asia and Amnesty International, among others. I’ll let you Google them para maghanap naman kayo. Let’s see how you deny and revise that particular piece of recent history.
As for you, Alan, running out of valid arguments? Resorting to name calling? That’s a new low even for you. Real classy, dude.
Alan says
“History is past tense”. Spoken like a true apologist for criminals. Falcon’s problem is he’s spent too much time on schoolyards preying on todllers and bullying grade school kids to make himself feel superior. When he finds people who bite back he gets all upset and such and starts running around screaming shrilly, waving his hands.
Here are the “achievements” of the Douchetator Marcos that Falcon desperately wants everyone to forget about. kesyo history lang daw:
(1) Murdered at least 3,500 Filipinos
(2) Tortured and illegally detained around 100,000 Filipinos
(3) Stole US$10 billion
(4) Destroyed institutions such as the legislative and the judiciary
(5) Corrupted the civil service and the armed forces
(6) Doubled the poverty rate
(7) Shared out the economy with cronies and relatives
(8) Eradicated people’s trust in government
But wait! kalimutan na lang daw natin yon, sapagkat history lang daw yon. Tsk tsk tsk, what a sorry specimen of humanity you are, Mister Falcon, and I suspect I’m being generous bracketing you with the species. Go back to the GaRaPals page where you undoubtedly came from and where the village idiots presumably acclaim you as a genius. All you’ll find here is a world of hurt for you
showstopper says
@Falcon – ugali nilang mag-asawa yan, kpg naubusan ng valid arguments,mag start ng magyabang tpos kpg sumagot ka,babaligtarin ka.hypocrite pareho.
Alan says
Showstopper let me write in English, seeing as how you claim you’re in SoCal, therefore so you must know something of the language, OK? no remedial TOEFL prep, right?
And the bases of your statement is…your terrific research? your well-placed connections? Your astute uncanny perception? Your mom? You have a mom right?
kore says
“history is past tense” you said. but if we do not learn from that past, it may come back as a surprise, as history has a habit of repeating itself.
we must not forget about the past, but keep it alive, so we be aware, lest it creeps up again… so we must warn our children of Marcos and his
people….they are the plague to stay far away from…..
macspeed says
@falcon
the mistakes FM did will be there till the seventh great grand children. the impact will be less and less, however minute, the future relative will somehow feel the pain, if that person is righteous, no effect whatsoever, but if that person is a perfectionist liar, then, the pain will be great he he he
kore says
hindi justified na i-blame ang successors ng marcos administration sa mga hindi nagampanang pag-aayos ng gobyerno natin. first of all, deep in the hole ang kaban ng bayan dahil nilimas ni makoy hanggang sa huling centavo ang pera ng bayan. tapos ay puro marcos copycats ang mga sumunod kay cory.
dapat talaga ang pasimuno ng krimen ang pagbuntunan ng sisi. pero mga bakal ang mga mukha. mga ayaw i-give up ang mga ninakaw at nagmamalinis pa dahil si fm daw ang gumawa at hindi silang asawa lang at mga anak. kung ayaw nilang madamay sa sisi, isauli lang naman nila ang lahat ng ninakaw ng ina at ama nila. tapos ang usapan. tapos ang sisihan. hahangaan pa sila ng buong bansa at pati na ibang bansa dahil sa ipinakita nilang moral values nila. di ba tama ito, mr. falcon at sa lahat ng marcos sympathizers????????
Antonio Falcon says
‘A world of hurt” hahaha!
The way I see it, you, Raissa and the dwindling number of Marcos critics who are increasingly preaching to the choir with litanies and stats that no one really cares about anymore are the ones that are really hurting.
You must be hurting every time you see the Marcoses beat one civil and criminal case after another. How many were those cases after EDSA? And how many remaining are they now?
You must be hurting every time a member of the Marcos and Romualdez clan win one election after another. After 1986, who would have thought that a Marcos would become senator again someday? But because people like you refuse to consign him and his family to oblivion, they’re still around instead of living in exile somewhere in Hawaii. All you guys did was resurrect their political career and boost their political stock.
And you must be hurting every time you see once vocal Marcos critics like Joker Arroyo, Rene Saguisag, Butz Aquino and Teddy Boy Locsin become less vocal about them and go soft on them now. Locsin has become even more complimentary towards the Marcoses as of late. Even Binay is more conciliatory towards the Marcoses, smart politician that he is.
Alan says
Yeah, we’re hurt that the Marcoses were forced to cough up HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS they claim they never had. MWAHAHAHA. Were those dollars going to pay for your elementary school education? Innocent daw sila but they keep asking for a settlement. A settlement for what? Di criminal nga
Mary says
Thank you Raissa, and Alan too, for your unwavering stand on this issue. when I see Bongbong Marcos and Bong Revilla being lionized in Leyte when they distributed relief goods (which probably came from their loot) my stomach heaves and revolts. Our poor countrymen, victims as they are, could not distinguish evil from good. They need rescuing with true facts and information, and with relief goods of course….
Alan says
Mary, almost as revolting as seeing the unpunished brigands and murderers is seeing their lickspittle supporters such as the pseudo intellectual Antonio Falcon who wants to convince us that the atrocities are all in the past and we should forget all these horrid crimes. I wonder if he’s paid to think that way. I wonder if he thinks
mary says
Wonder no more cause he doesn’t
kore says
antonio falcon and all those marcos supporters not inly have their hearts missing when they were created in the McCoy lab, they were also intellectually degenerated. they were created that way, to just listen and obey…listen and obey….listen and obey……and perceive the world with goo-goo eyes.
absolutely, supercalifragillistically inept in totality. these people are devoid of human feelings and intelligence. but they are a very persistent lot. Remember their brain-function words? listen and obey….listen and obey….
andrew lim says
who issues the certification, you?
showstopper says
?
andrew lim says
you said Raissa is a certified so and so, so I was wondering who issued the certification
showstopper says
is that a joke Andrew?lol
andrew lim says
of course, thank goodness you got it
Kamison says
@ Antonio Falcon, more please.
Paki-dagdagan mo naman ng rekado, puro sabaw. I need some meat to go with my rice.
Dalas-dalasan mo naman dito. Your personal opinion counts, too.
Antonio Falcon says
Salamat, Kamison, hehe!
moonie says
kamison, they have eaten all the meat and leave only the sabaw. be concerned about the rice as staple food. bong marcos is planning to propose a bill that will stop restos from serving more rice to the eating public. if bong marcos has his way, lahat tayo ay hihigpitang kumain ng rice. halos walang karne, kulang pa ng rice.
kore says
baka naman ang proposed bill ay exclucive for the marcos clan. baka naman gustong maglinis ng conscience nila. check if maybe i’m right….Haaaaaak
haaaak, HELP!. nacho-choke ako sa sinabi ko………
macspeed says
heyy, m**r f**r
did you ever think that since you were born, you are nothing but shit!!!
ask yourself what have you got…your ball…what else??? And you are not happy about it,
you wished, you have never been born at all, you’re a USELESS creation…and trying to
be usefull by assisting the political losers…nayyy sorry dude as you are…
macspeed says
@falcon
no president nor any human nor priest nor you can counter act mother nature…
You’re act be is so desperate that it seems you lost someone in those calamities? Well, i cant blame you, but, look, put yourself in PNOY’s shoes and view if you can do better….
This is not campaigning time, you know what i mean, you cant damage a polical shield by attributing mother nature calamities. You need someone like napoles to cause some damages he he he he to a simple man like PNOY…
Antonio Falcon says
You’re probably correct, macspeed. If and when Napoles finally speaks up, you might get the shock of your life when she points the finger not on the three senators but to Noynoy himself. Keep in mind Noynoy’s name was mysteriously not included in the COA report on PDAF and he has never expressed willingness to abolish the pork barrel. And he’s not a simple man? In case you’re not aware, he collects luxury cars. Also, his infamous speech justifiying the existence of DAP should give you a clue as well on his mindset regarding disboursements.
kore says
hindi naman dapat i-abolish ang pork barrel. dapat lang gamitin sa pag-i-improve ng living conditions ng lahat ng mamamayan ng pilipinas, hindi para ibulsa ng mga senador at kongresista at samantalahin ng mga crooked minded cronies. Palagay ko naman, si P’noy, ginagamit naman niya sa tama ang kanyang pbarrel allowance. i hope matapos na ang usaping pbarrel at maibalik sa coffers ang mga ninakaw at mapreso ang mga proven guilty. With God’s blessings to the filipino people….
Antonio Falcon says
You’re probably correct, macspeed. If and when Napoles finally speaks up, you might get the shock of your life when she points the finger not on the three senators but to Noynoy himself. Keep in mind Noynoy’s name was mysteriously not included in the COA report on PDAF and he has never expressed willingness to abolish the pork barrel. And he’s not a simple man? In case you’re not aware, he collects luxury cars. Also, his infamous speech justifiying the existence of DAP should give you a clue as well on his mindset regarding disbursements.
crichton_prime says
I believe you have severe iodine deficiency, so have you heard about he word ‘cretin’?…..that’s you!
crichton_prime says
http://realpolitiker.weebly.com/1/post/2013/08/ferdinand-marcos-the-worlds-greatest-thief.html#sthash.Ufaak3JC.dpbs
Joemar Lang-ayan Mabutas says
Sometimes,in order for others to be mobilize is to criticize them or unintentional report.That is what the international correspondents of CNN did.They speaks or report the the true nature of what there eyes saw.And from that,our government immediately did some action.But,we have to understands also that there are hindrances in everything that we do.Though,criticizing,blaming are what we heard from each in everyone,that is not a solution for it,it can only slow or demoralize the spirit of action.
Donations from different nations are coming in either cash or in-kinds.And this donations are getting bigger and bigger,and so,I appeal to all Citizens that we must watch or ensure that this good deeds may go to all the victims of Yoland and not to the pockets of govt officials,as what Ms. Wong said. I envy her,coz she does as she could to help her relatives out of the city.And the way she pictured the aftermath of the typhoon.Even if you haven’t seen the real one,you can view it the way she narrate of what she saw when she looks for her relatives.
I a Filipino citizen,working here in Kuwait,though physically we cannot help but emotionally and spiritually,we can by praying those victims.But many thanks to all people of different nations for extending there to the victims.God is not sleeping and that He saw of what you did.May God Bless to all of you!
moonie says
you give too much credit to cnn. with our without them, help will come. people’s hearts and goodwill are not dependent on cnn.
Johnny Lin says
I give credit to this woman as an excellent saleswoman, she does sell educational toys.
She is tailor made to her current job from a dental profession:
good looking, many acquaintances with affluent people and powerful personalities, glib tongue and persuasive. Her description of what happened in Tacloban had been reported by season reporters, yet she might have expressed it more melo-dramatic mesmerizing many readers, including the owner of this blog. After all she is a successful sales lady.
With that credentials, she could probably sell Luneta for condo development to unsuspecting investors. She could make a fool of well meaning people.
Regretfully, achieving her personal selfish interest she trampled many most needy suffering victims in Tacloban during times of crisis when swift rescue they needed badly. They are the people I was crying for. The latest postings of Rene apparently written by her confirmed the charade.
Her means to be successful in Tacloban was deplorable. Hate to spoil the party.
Like what Walter Cronkite would say or possibly Anderson is mumbling now: I say what it is.
I also like Robin Hood principle, but hate the method.
“Means does not justify the end”
guest says
=)
JosephIvo says
We will have to wait very long before the one true and unbiased story will be written with all the facts and all the motive, by a noble and knowledgeable author. Can we accept in the meantime that all information is fractional, biased and laced with inaccuracies? But the sum of it all gives a decent picture of what happened. At least good enough to start thinking what could be improved.
If we spent some of our blaming energy in listing areas for improvement, some in thinking about steps to approach perfection. How to predict and communicate better, how to prevent better, how to plan, organize, test mitigation actions better …. upto how to report better about fatalities and survivors. (Where is JoeAm, he can formulate this all so much better.)
Ivy Ipil says
It would be interesting to read the approach, lists, plans and recommendations of Mr. Johnny Lim, Mr. Falcon and all the bloggers criticizing the government. What would you do if you’re the president of the Philipines?
kore says
hay, naku, wag naman pong mangyari sa lifetime ko at lifetime ng mga anak ko na tung dalawang tu ang maging president……talun na lang aku sa lake…..wat, another makoy kopikat? shoot me na lang kaya….
Gin says
Actually, not only anderson cooper but all US network reporters and even BBC are saying the same thing about the slow response of the government and that there are already progress now but it should have been there two days after the typhoon hit Tacloban. Maybe they are used to a swift action so I can understand their observation.
I can also understand the Philippine government’s difficulty because this is a catastrophe of epic proportion.
But one thing I will never understand is given the magnitude of the disaster one lady was able to find her relatives and let them all out of the place in a matter of hours. This I cannot wrap my head around with.
What I know before is still what I know now, it is hard to be poor in the Philippines!
moonie says
‘slow response of the government’ has been byword by bbc reporters. they said the same thing when london was hit by rioters, government was slow to react daw, slow to mobilize and cordon off the rioters and prevent further damage to properties. when london bombers went on bombing spree, ganon din ang sinabi ng mga bbc reporters, government slow to responce again. one australian got hit by that bomb, nakawheelchair siya ngayon. when yolanda hit, ganon din and sinabi ng bbc reporters, government slow to react na naman.
drill down says
right, it’s better to live in north korea because they shoot people who tries to keep the govt honest and on its toes.
moonie says
so, go and live in north korea.
drill down says
lol. it fits you better.
moonie says
you are more suited.
drill down says
lol
kore says
when calamity like typhoon yolanda strikes, people expect to see help to arrive faster than a speeding bullet. its because we humans do not want to see our fellow human being in peril, suffering, and dying. We have to understand that people on the scene is in a much more difficult situation being witnesses with their own eyes and cannot do anything to help. they can panic, too, just like any of us. you might say they are reporters of the news and they should act as professionals. When you see people being hurt and dying in front of you, you became just human, with feelings and compassion towards the victims. so lets not condemn those reporters. they’re in a place where desperation takes over common sense.
Rene-Ipil says
Eight years ago Ms. Wong got acquainted with a co-mother in a nursery school. Now, this co-mother testifies that Ms. Wong has really been gutsy, outspoken, exuberant and big hearted. Here is her testimony.
“A week after Super-typhoon Yolanda devastated Eastern Visayas, people all over the world are still talking about it. The people directly affected by it are still largely suffering from its devastation.
“In the midst of all this, I just want to share this uplifting story that is full of courage and filial piety. This woman’s story is about how she pulled herself out of the comfort and safety of Manila to rescue stranded relatives in her hometown, Tacloban.
“Hers is a story that is meant to be shared for it is driven by personal courage that goes beyond duty. But, hers is also a request… a request for people to stop criticizing the government because it is amplifying the problem.
“I have known Gigi Wong since our daughters started nursery eight years ago. I’ve always known her to be gutsy, outspoken, and full of exuberance. Even then, she has always been big-hearted, always opening up her home for playdates between both our daughters.
“A few days after the typhoon made landfall, her FB wall was full of impassioned pleas about any information about the whereabouts of her relatives in Tacloban. We exchanged a few PM’s as my husband also has relatives in Tacloban. I shared with her how some of our family members went to Tacloban to retrieve trapped family members also. The next message I got from her, I found out that she hitched a plane ride to Tacloban.”
yeheywater says
Believe ako sa iyo Rene…kampi tayo.
Jay N. Ramos says
When all is said and done… it still does not change the fact that, to many people, Anderson simply went overboard, and was tactless.
moonie says
reporters sometimes do that, go overboard to sell stories, be headliner, grab attention, get the highest rating until the next event comes along. if they see a one in a million chance to make quick buck, they’ll go for the jugular. they might never get the same chance coming their way again. not all reporters adhere to ethics of good reporting.
kore says
i think given the location as third world, many foreign correspondents were shocked when they first laid eyes on the devastation. its very different scenario in europe and north america. they saw people: the elderly, children, all skinny and malnourished in their eyes, the dirty surroundings/scattered debris/garbage……their first reaction is to feed them because that’s what we all looked like to them…wet and hungry and dirty..
they can’t help but show PANIC in their reporting of the news as they saw it. they became shocked with disbelief. they did not know that we, as filipinos, are used to calamities/typhoons/hurricanes/ that we get several times a year. That is why Korina
was surprised at anderson cooper’s reporting. Korina is used to seeing our people in that predicament. foreign correspondents doesn’t understand that a lot of people and children still living way below human standards. people in the west call that a crime on humanity. In Korina’s eyes, its an accepted everyday way of life, look at what the elites are doing with the PDAF. Plunder here, plunder there, plunder everywhere. Who takes care of the regular people’s basic needs? Korina doesn’t care. all her people care about is how to plunder more…..
voelly says
Whoever is telling the truth is not an issue anymore. What is important is in times like this where everybody is suppose to be holding hands to extend assistance to all the typhoon victims, let’s all lend our arms for their determination and speedy recovery from the disaster. It might be that korina is right because most of the government officials were there and experting every effort to assist and korina’s version is that the government officials are visible on the scene, on the contrary what anderson saw was different and maybe he doesn’t know who these officials are. My take is, both of them are right in their observations so I think thee should never be an issue here.
yeheywater says
agree