Analysis by Raïssa Robles
There are now reports of a possible team up of Vice President Jejomar Binay with Governor-actress Vilma Santos in 2016. Or Binay with a prominent businessman as his running mate.
This is probably the start of a season where we will see various strange combinations floated about.
In this context, let me let me throw in a possible combination: that Aquino could run for vice president. And I don’t mean Kris, as some are suggesting.
But first, let me explain why I’m doing this. When I was in Tokyo recently, a senior editor of a Japanese newspaper told me the Philippines was about to enter “a period of instability” because in 2016, President Benigno Aquino III would be stepping down from office and be replaced by who knows what.
Earlier, I was told the same concern by a prominent American businessman in Manila who spoke to me on condition of anonymity. The businessman wondered who would replace Aquino who, he noted, could not run again.
Hmm. It seems both men believe that Aquino lends political stability to the system.
To both the businessman and the Japanese editor my reply was the same: Of course he can run again.
PNoy (as he is popularly called) can run for Vice-President, I said.
My reply was met with skepticism. And so I had to explain how this would effectively change the current political landscape that had only Vice-President Jejomar Binay and Local Governments Secretary Mar Roxas as the main presidential contenders.
Before I go on, I would like to stress that I am neither endorsing nor advocating PNoy’s running again. I am simply analyzing and pointing out the possibilities as a political commentator.
Let’s look at two important aspects of the idea:
- First, the constitutionality of such a move.
- Second, the implications of such a move on Philippine politics.
Politics is like entertainment in that it shares some characteristics with the world of movies and entertainment. Political strategists play around with combinations and see what team-ups could produce a box office hit, in this case, electoral victories.
President Aquino is barred by the Philippine Constitution only from running for President, but not from running for Vice-President or any other political office. Given his name recall nationwide and his track record, he is probably a shoe-in if he runs for vice-president.
But why would his party even consider fielding him for the vice-presidency — a spare tire position? They might consider any or all of the following points.
First, it is very likely that VP Binay will run for President in 2016. And Binay could win. If VP Binay and PNoy win – in this case, we would have a Bi-Noy scenario instead of the current Noy-Bi one – then VP Binay’s behavior might be affected by his knowledge of who his stand-by successor is.
Second, PNoy could campaign for vice-president by telling voters – ‘look, vote for the presidential candidate I endorse and for me because I’m his seal of good housekeeping. I am not going to meddle or anything. I will just be there to make sure he walks the straight and narrow.’
Presuming Aquino endorses Mar Roxas, will that be enough to make Mar Roxas win? Frankly, I don’t know at this point because there are other issues swirling around Roxas which he has not addressed.
Will PNoy look at 2016 the way President Fidel Ramos looked at 1998? If you recall, Ramos fielded House Speaker Jose de Venecia out of a sense of loyalty, gratitude and friendship even though many voters clearly did not like De Venecia.
Third, what if PNoy and the Liberal Party were to pick someone other than Roxas? That would make things truly interesting.
Then there is this one other scenario to consider, remote but possible: PNoy teams up with someone who will promise to step down so PNoy can continue being President.
Are these far-fetched? Not in our world of politics where a president is ousted, then convicted, then pardoned, then allowed to run again, then defeated, then runs for mayor and wins.
The last two years of a president’s term are usually called the lame duck years. But just a hint – or threat – of running for the VP post could erase that perception for PNoy.
So when people tell me they are afraid of what would happen in 2016, my reply is – you have to be open to the possibilities. What will happen will simply surprise you.
Rene-Ipil says
This is now my theory.
Mag-kakutsaba si Cudia at Costales. Dapat pareho sila parusahan o tanggalin mula sa PMA. Nakiusap si Cudia kay Costales para tingnan ang grades nya. Pumayag si Costales at inutusan (instructed, not advised) daw si Cudia na wait ka lang. Pero sinagad ni Cudia at Costales hanggang 1500H. Late si Cudia sa formation, accounting at next class at 1500H. Syempre tatakbo pa si Cudia from one room to another in a big three story building. Kahit pa kadikit ang next classroom ay late pa rin si Cudia.
Ngayon nagkutsaba si Cudia at Costales. Inutusan daw si Cudia na wait lang. Pero may regulatory limit ito na hanggang si Cudia ay hindi ma-late sa next class. Kanginong responsibility ito? Kay Costales at Cudia dahil under military regulation si Cudia to attend the next class on time. At any time during his meeting with Costales for his grades Cudia could respectfully leave Costales who did not have any option but allow Cudia to leave. Otherwise, tanggal si Costales sa trabaho. Tanong: nag-attempt ba si Costales na i-release si Cudia o si Cudia na lumisan before 1500H? Kaya sa military regulation kailangan may relo bawat kadete. Kung hindi demerits na naman. Kaya sa tingin ko nagkutsaba si Cudia at Costales to violate the regulation.
The honor code violation is another story to which Cudia is responsible as a cadet. Costales is not a cadet. In fact she is a civilian professor in PMA.
Victin Luz says
@Sir Rene ,,sangayon ako sa theory mo,,maaring nagkasala, magakasabwat ang dalawa BUT DUE to the opposite and conplicting theory of the parties involved including the proceduce taken as well as the weighing of EVIDENCES presented , it is safe to say the HC has no expertise to decide on that matter or matters that is why DUE PROCESS was not afforded to CUDIA…It was not within their AMBIT ( Honor Committe ) alone abymore to decide the case and CUDIA must have been represented by a person knowledgeable of at least the procedure of an administrative proceedings… kahit man lang sana taga loob ng PMA ang nag representbsa kanya para may DUE PROCESS lahat if ever Cudia will be found out na LYING nga sya….tingnan mo atty ha… LIE sa PMA when a unanimous is acquired by the HC… 1 dissenting wala ng lying si CUDIA , so anung ginawa PRESSURED nila si LARGO ( may affidavit iyan ha ) ..late is late bakit hindi but when a committe will decide a case of LYING,,, and so that such theory of yours na may sabwatan mga ang nagyari,,, CUDIA must have been represented by a person who can object a leading question’s and other legal matters . DUE PROCESS [email protected] and EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE diba…the GRAVITY of the case , sila sila lang …. Kung kayo ngang mga lawyers at kami na non-lawyers we have different interpretation and theories SILA PA KAYA na HC hindi papanig sa LIED or TRUTH?
JosephIvo says
Isn’t the discussion “what’s more important in the army, honor and loyalty or justice”? Do we want an army where officers asking questions, or do they follow orders blindly. Do you kill people because of individual believe that you protect the nation or do you kill because you are ordered to? In what direction do you shoot during a rub-out? The corrupt colonel giving the orders or the ambushed convoy?
In the first case you have to stress justice, in the second honor is more important. What Cudia did was not “honorable” and certainly not loyal, the group is right, an individual has to accept that. What the PMA did was not just, no due process and the punishment not in relation to the alleged offence.
In the old days or in a weak state honor was/is essential, blind obedience essential. In modern army imbedded in a society with a developed justice system, sophisticated weaponry and a flat flexible structure, there is nothing wrong with thinking officers.
baycas says
November 14, 2013
Delinquency Report Explanation:
Fact: His class was dismissed with ample time for the 5th period class. Most of his classmates arrived on time for the next class.
Fact: Most of his classmates came directly from 4th period class but they arrived on time for the 5th period class.
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December 19, 2013
Request for Reconsideration of Meted Punishment:
Fact: Protocol dictates that classes are dismissed ahead of time to give way for formation, marching, and accounting. Most of his classmates were on time for the 5th period class.
Fact: Most of his classmates came immediately from 4th period class but they arrived on time for the 5th period class. While there was no intention of being late, he was, in fact, late.
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January 7, 2014
Honor Report:
Fcuk: On either fence, what later happened are ‘unfortunate’ events.
Victin Luz says
@Baycas ,,he he ,,,hindi po tayo abogado o Judge ..BUT …it was very CLEAR as the SKY that all of the CUDIAs reasons you had posted were ALL TRUE and CORRECT and was JUSTIFIED and the reasonableness of ALL was because of the INSTRUCTION of Dr. Cortales for Cudia and etc. Cadets to WAIT for HER……the CRUCIAL WORD …INSTRUCTION ….
AGAIN: with such an instruction, Cudia and the etc.cadet’s can say ” our class was dismissed a little bit late ( for the 5 of them ). OUR class means not all of the class .. WHY @Sir Baycas …….with the word ” late ” In comparisson with your assessmet of FACTs ” most of his classmates arrived ON TIME…. …so very clear quoting and using your conclusion ” OUR CLASS MEANs “= only those who were late….why were they late ? because of the CRUCIAL WORD ….INSTRUCTION…
” I came directly from 4th period class ” @sir Baycas assessment after their 4th period class ,most came on time……again- Cudia’s defense …the INSTRUCTION was valid.. And @sir….CUDIA before the 5th period , comes the 4th period class…and there was no 3&1/2 period class….IRELLEVANT sentence/composition but to be safe same defense by CUDIA.
” I strongly beleive that i am not in control of the circumstances because our 4th period class ended 15:00H and oir 5th period class begins at 15:00H. ……[email protected] assessment……PROTOCOL dictates that classes are dismissed ahead of time to give way to formation,marching, roll-call. Most of his classmates were on time on their 5th period class………Again OUR CLASS= means for Cudia and etc. Cadets ,REASON for being late ….INSTRUCTION by Dr. Cortales valid….PROTOCOL as i borrowed @baycas wording , means Correct Conduct and Procedures and if you dont follow procedures it DOESNT MEAN YOU ARE ALREADY LYING….so….PROTOCOL is not telling the TRUTH…
” immediately after 4th period class I went to my next class without intention of being late ,Sir… “. Baycas said = Most of his classmates came immediately after their 4th period class but they arrived on time on their 5th period class. While their was no intention of coming late, he came late……..defense overall…INSTRUCTION of Dr. cortales valid….I WENT meaning others went ahead of him…tumpak si @baycas but ” because of such INSTRUCTION,, my being late WAS NOT INTENTIONAL ( iyan ang ibig sabihin nyan @sir.. )NO LYING again @sir baycas…he he
” Lying that is giving statement that pervert the truth in his written appeal , staing that his 4th period class ended at 15:00H that made him late on his succeding class…@ BAYCAS on either fence , because of the INSTRUCTION the TRUTH on CUDIAs justification wre not LIES….for him and etc, cadets class ENDED at 15:00H because of the INSTRUCTION of DR. cortales to wait……I CAN NOT SEE THE LIE’s here ALL are JUSTIFIED …..late is late bit the defense of CUDIA were TELLING THE TRUTH not a LIE.
sykes says
@baycas
kung ako ang teacher ni Cudia dun sa sumunod na klase after Dr. Costales, at yan ang binigay nyang linya na “the class was dismissed a bit late” kung tinanong ko sya kung ba’t sya late sa klase ko, malamang ako ang marereport dahil mababatukan ko sya…hehehe
o baka magkaroon kami ng debate kung yung mga kaklase nya na kanina pa dumating at sitting pretty na eh totoo bang mga tao o mga ilusyon lang….lol
moonie says
they should check cudia’s cellphone too. he might have been texting and sending messages and doing selfies, and so, lost track of time, ha, ha.
baycas says
@sykes, malalagot ka talaga kay Prof. Berong.
Sana classmate mo rin si @Victin Luz kasi tama daw at TRUTHFUL ang palusot ni Cudia (explanation statements at Comment No. 103)…
‘Kagulo siguro ang klase…
Victin Luz says
@baycas…. hindi palusut iyon …Certified and authenticated ( IKAW PA MGA ang GUMAMIT ng AUTHENTICATED na saliat ) by Dr. costales he he he…..tingnan nati kung sino ang babatukan ng JUDGE….he he he….
baycas says
I am talking of Cudia’s words…Comment No. 103.
Victin Luz says
@baycas … no offence ha ..I ,@ victin luz was defending Cudia and [email protected] against Cudia….the beauty here in our exchanges of comments we are all HOLDING FACTs on CUDIAs CASE….tayo naman dito diba IMHO lang ang sa atin…..ang mga binitawan mung mga salita kagaya ng AUTHENTIC, PROTOCOL and etc , the lawyer of CUDIAs for sure will POUNCE on those terms , i could say an ERROR on your part in order to proved Cudias innocent of lying…. wag na nating isali ang DUE PROCESS dahil kahit bali baliktadin mo ang defense mo dito…. DUE PROCESS was not afforded to CUDIA…..i agree with your meaning literally of the word ” OUR CLASS ” plural as you said ,,,wala na sanang problema kung singular ang ginamit ninya,,,,BUT @sir Baycas ,,you know for sure ,because you are not only smart and an intellegent person that DURING an ACTUAL COURT TRIALs….Cudias lawyer so as the Court will CONCENTRATE on the ” INTENTION ” of Cudia in making that statement ” OUR CLASS … with malice ba, with mistake ba, with an excusable negligent ba on the part of CUDIA when he said that ” OUR CLASS ” …..INTENT now ang importante na HAHANAPIN ng KORTE …….And because of that AUTHENTICATED/CERTICATION of Dr. Cortales ,,,, the intention of CUDIA of ” our class ” means not all were a little bit late and can prove also that there was two dismissal of the class .Those majority of the class who were not late on their next class and Cudias group of 5…. Nanonood kasi ako sa court battles dahil katabi lang ang court ang school namin… madami at napakaraming objections iyan to a leading questions ..sa direct, re direct, cross questionings,,,pero at the end of the day…those who have a VALID DOCUMENTs and properly presented/offered in the court will benefit an affirmative decisions…alam mo ito @sir baycas..he he ….pabalikbalik lang ang tanung ng abogado ni Cudia at ang sagot ni Cudia sa AUTHENTICITY of the Certication of Dr. Cortales. Lalayo sya dyan di pwedi syang madisgrasya he he….
Victin Luz says
That authenticated certification issued by Dr. Cortales will negate every doubtful statement given by cadet Cudia , be stated in plural or singular .UPON reaching the Court of Law and properly presented and offered as an evidence , the Court will give more WEIGHT to that evidence/documents in relation to the statements of Cudia, statement of witnesses against Cudia on arriving to a NOT LYING decision. INTENT sir @Baycas ….he he….walang batuk sa ulo iyan he he
sykes says
@victin but what about the authenticity of the content of the documents? hahaba ang proceedings dyan at kikita ang lawyers, well, PAO ang kay Cudia kaya quits na lang…hehe…baka mag backtrack pa si Dr. Costales and she ends up throwing Cudia under the bus :)
sykes says
when it comes to INTENT @victin simple lang ang diskarte dyan ng prosecution. rhetorical question na ganito– “kung kayo si Cudia at tinanong ka ng next class teacher kung ba’t ka na-late, sasabihin mo ba sa kanya na ‘mam/sir, the previous class was dismissed a bit late?'”
syempre pag involved sa scene of the crime aka ang teacher sa sunod na class, di lulusot ang excuse na yan. magkakaroon lang ng chance na makalusot kung ang tactical officer eh na-accept at face value ang excuse ni Cudia kasi wala naman sya dun at naging lenient sya when it comes to enforcing school rules and regulations :)
Victin Luz says
It was never an illusion @sykes…he he ….it was the TRUE incident and was certified by Dr. Costales….AUTHENTICATED pa mga ang ginamit ni @baycas na salita e he he basahin ninyo…. Their class were a little bit late because of the INSTRUCTION of Dr. costales to wait for her…… Basta si Cudia ,,,hindi na sya LALAYO o BIBITAW sa instruction of Dr. Costales ….His lawyer will POUNCE on that instruction given and due process he he abswelto iyan …The one lying are the HC members not he…. Magtanung kayo sa Lawyer ninyo he he……
sykes says
@victin madali lang yan. kunin yung side nang teacher after Costales’ class and then get an English language expert plus a psychologist to determine whether Cudia really possess the mental aptitude to know what the words “the class” really mean. lalo lang hahaba ang kwento nito…hehe
pero mas ok pa rin yung original kong plano na batukan na lang si Cudia sabay turo sa background ng madramang eksena na to at sabi na “niloloko mo ba ko ha? anong tingin mo sa mga kaklase mo? guni-guni lang natin pareho?” :)
David says
Fact: All Mr. Cudia had to say was short & simple, just say “Sir Traffic”, and everyone could had identified with that…. You are excused, case closed.
baycas says
[NEWS]
Cudia lied. So says the SC…
baycas says
@Rene and @leona, as I said in Comment No. 99, I used this failed “Cudia Written Appeal”:
http://www.rappler.com/nation/51485-copy-written-appeal-of-cadet-jeff-cudia
because we can safely say it is firsthand information coming from Cudia himself. There are pertinent accounts and explanations in the document that were already given to authorities like the italicized or quoted statements in November 2013 and December 2013 portions of the written appeal.
Further justifications were done and they appear in normal fonts and not indented. These were new explanations.
As to Dr. Costales’s signature below what Cudia wrote…it is authentic, however, an attached certification was created by Dr. Costales in her own words. There were inaccuracies in her account, like the number of cadets who lingered with her and the fact that she couldn’t really recall the exact time when the whole class was dismissed.
(Please don’t get confused here because Cudia considered the five of them who were late as a “class” even to the point of creating two dismissals: one for the whole class and another for the 5-membered “class”. I say this because Maj. Hindang got confused, after talking with Dr. Costales on the phone, to the extreme level that he filed the Honor Report!)
Victin Luz says
Whatever inconsistincies you had notice ,,, 100% DR. COSTALES was CONSISTENT that she INSTRUCTED , CUDIA and the other cadets to wait for her….. the defense of CUDIA for being late in their next class was that ” Dr. Costales instructed them (5) to wait for her .” SHE never contested such CRUCIAL sentence that really/can proved CUDIA was not lying on her 2nd Certication …And such letter/certification were not considered by the Honor Committe…..The HC can say Late is Late , but with that certication with INSTRUCTION , they can not say now that Cudias justification was a LIE..
Misleading was your explanation with regards to the authenticity of Dr. Costales , signature and the 2nd Certification she had submitted…. A PRO FORMA letter @sir Baycas once your signature is genuine and as you said it was AUNTHENTIC…..means you concurred/affirmed all the words as stated ( its legal meaning ) int he PRO FORMA…meaning you had adopted the words on that letter as if you are the one who composed it…it becomes in your own words already @baycas….
@Baycas ,,,CORTALES signature and the 2nd certification although there were some discrepancies,,it will be a very strong EVIDENCE for CUDIA that he did not LIE…
The only way for the court to conclude that CUDIA lied is only when DR. CORTALES will impeached her two signatures and that SHE NEVER GAVE SUCH an INSTRUCTION TO WAIT HER…… Hmmm kahit di tayo abogado @sir baycas…ang linaw pa sa BUWAN….
AUTHINTICITY……
baycas says
Check the LIE Maj. Hindang reported and please read Comment No. 103.
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Didn’t I just say the affirmation was authentic? Read again my Comment No. 102.
As to the discrepancy with the certification, she couldn’t recall the exact dismissal time: was it really 1500H? See here:
And since the entire class made it to the 5th period class on time at 1500H, Dr. Costales dismissed the group of cadets in OR432 class earlier than 1500H.
But wait, wait, wait, Cudia explained in the failed Written Appeal that the five of them who were late were “a class” and that their business with the professor is regarded by him as “a class” so there was, in effect, a second dismissal. This time probably it was at 1500H for this Cudia et al virtual “class.”
Si Maj. Hindang ay nawindang! By his account, the real class (as in the class with the majority of cadets present) was dismissed earlier than 1500H contrary to Cudia’s account.
baycas says
Ibang klase…
Classic!
baycas says
Wala sana ang lahat nang ito kung first person SINGULAR lang ang ginamit ni Cudia sa pinakauna niyang paliwanag…doon pa lang sa Delinquency Report.
Ang siste…ito pang iba rito ay sinisisi pa ang propesor na kagalang-galang na PhD.
Ibang klase talaga!
baycas says
O kaya kung talagang gusto niya ng “OUR“, ganito sana…
Maliwanag na ba, Major? O major problem pa, ha?
Victin Luz says
Ha ha ha @baycas naman …. Granting he can not remember the exact time of her dismissal of the MAIN CLASS , the FACT, FACT was,,, because of her instruction to wait ,,,the dismissal of the Cudia and etc. Cadets CAME on a LATER TIME….he he ….Dr. Cortales never impeached his ” MAGIC SARAP ” of CUDIA ….that that that….INSTRUCTION… That exact for Dr. Cortales 14:45 ….14:46…..or 14:47 and for Cudias dismissal 15:00H only….IT WAS CERTIFIED and NEVER ALSO IMPEACHED by the lady Doctor…..from CUDIA with love ,,i love you Doctor , i love you instruction..your 2nd certicafication was for them not for me….
DR. COSTALES was refferring to the DISMISSAL of many or majority of the cadtes who were not late on their 5th class @Baycas ..
Victin Luz says
@BAYCAS…..SHE CAN NOT REMEMBER the specific time …
It can be ask with the OTHER MEMBERSof the CLASS…..
All questions are for the MEMBER of the CLASS who were not LATE….he he he he …. Ano @sir Baycas…..
14:45h ba , 14: 47h ba….ano akala mo kay DR. CORTALES….ampaw giving a 2nd certification on which she cannot protect her 1st signature @sir Baycas…..
baycas says
http://raissarobles.com/2014/03/03/president-aquino-can-run-in-2016-without-amending-the-constitution/comment-page-3/#comment-133935
leona says
My guess [only] is that Ms. Costales’ No. 2 explanation is…she is intentionally omitting important points…hiding something…she did make a ‘record’ but not the specific time of dismissal, a crucial point for Cadet Cudia.
What do others say to that? She passes the ‘BUCK’ by saying “maybe it can be verified with other members of the class I was handling on that said date.”
I find this a clever way of evading the crucial fact. I see it…IT’S THERE between the spaces of the words stated! hahaha
Victin Luz says
Ito pa @BAYCAS………..as explained [email protected], one of the strongest defense of CUDIA was that DUE PROCESS/EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE…to be considered you are LYING at any PMA HC decision on cases ,you must collect a ” UNANINOUS VOTE ” , but always through DUE PROCESS .
@leona….if i will stand as the lawyer of Cudia , i will POUNCE everything on DUE PROCESS as you said he he beginning from the defects on the procedural system of the PMA Honor Code , especially Cudias right to have at least a person knowledgeable of administrative proceedings and LAWs that should have defended him from the start…
Victin Luz says
You quoted ” on her own words ” …leading answer , you are insinuating her 1st signature was taken through mistake , accident and other legal words….. In order to prove in your behalf that CUDIA LIED if DR. CORTALES LIED also….. Hindi naman siguro ampaw ang utak ni Dra… @baycas he he …. May mgs direct , re direct questions nyan… May mga objections pa…. He he …
baycas says
“Affirmation” ang unang pinirmahan niya and “certification” ang attachment. Those are facts.
I didn’t accuse Dr. Costales of lying.
Marumi lang isip mo kasi, if you don’t mind me saying. I even got irritated and perhaps ‘defending’ Dr. Costales because someone here (and others outside the blogosphere) is lately (pronounced ‘letlet‘) blaming her for Cudia’s tardiness. That’s unfair for the instructor.
The lie was alleged by the major, his tactical officer, and I’m inclined to believe him based on the fallacy of generalization that Cudia made when he regarded the five of them who were late as a “CLASS who were dismissed a (little) bit late”. We are just talking here of the time up to the Honor Report was filed (the reason for my Comment No. 103 which was based on Cudia’s Written Appeal).
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Fast forward to later events…
The “reasonable person” standard was later on used against Cudia by his peers and I didn’t know before and I only learned it now from your Comment No. 103.1 that you also actually believed “they” are “a class.” But, then again, you cannot be an expert witness for Cudia because you are not a cadet.
Victin Luz says
Ano pala ang purpose mo in writing ” cortales wrote on his own words ” and the 1st signature attached by Costales ? You even used the word AUTHENTIC…..you are DIFFERENTIATING her 1st signature and the 2nd signature @baycas…… FOUL iyan ….objection will be granted kasi leading sentences iyang ginawa for a Judge that pinirmahan lang ni Dr. Costales ang unang papers dahil sa MISTAKE , FRAUD , Negligence and etc…. An can be concluded that Dr. costales LIED thus , the defense of CUDIA can be impeached already…. He he,,,,,@sir Baycas….basahin mu nga grammar construction mo kasi……hindi marumi ang isip ko…..i had analyze carefully your comments posted…. Intindihin mung maige kasi…..WHY do used then” IN HER OWN WORDs ?
leona says
Thanks @baycas…I am not yet sure I am confused based on what I ‘get from your good linking’ of reported facts…
Good to hear you say “Maj. Hindang got confused’ …there is no ‘battle taking place yet for him and he gets confused’…Cadet Cudia’s surprise Maj. Hindang ‘filed the Honor Report.’
Thanks again.
baycas says
But the battle was won already…siyempre baka may last round pa…
Well, anyway, the standard I believe prevailed is this (just to reiterate what I said yesterday at #99)…
Peer review…a jury of his peers.
Sino sa mga kadete ang mag-aakalang silang limang nahuli ay isang “class na na-dismiss ng a (little) bit late…to be exact, at 1500H?”
‘Yung apat na kasama niya, o ilan doon, hindi ganoon ang pag-aakala…
Kailangan niyang kumuha ng EXPERT WITNESS niya na pareho niyang utak…
leona says
Hahaha…no offense. ‘Inviolable Honor Code’ standard may be likened [or the tenor is ‘must be likened] to any professional standard that a profession sets for its own members…
… not the Physicians Code? Lawyers’ Code? Engineers’ Code? Etc.
…’like-mindedness’ …meaning ‘same brain-thinking’?
…’one member thought and acted differently from the rest, then he was not able to meet the standard’ …in short, all Cadets must ‘think with and in ONE BRAIN’…is that it? So, inviolable is it? …I am not believing this!
Why conduct ‘a hearing’ then if that’s how inviolable the Code of Honor? A ‘hearing’ simply means …there will be ‘two-sides’ opposing each side. Abolish ‘the HEARING’ and just impose the result…punishment or what.
Thanks @baycas.
baycas says
Uulitin ko na lang galing sa #99.3…
baycas says
“Inviolable” – kasi ‘di naman mababali ang “Thou shalt not…”
‘Yung pagpapatupad, the processes in the Honor System, ang nababago. ‘Di ba nga nariyan na ‘yan at inamin naman ni PNoy through Gazmin na mayroon na dapat baguhin. Maaaring makaluma na ang mga proseso lalo na sa karapatang-pantao.
leona says
@baycas…Yep!…may last round pa…we await then.
leona says
@bacyas…If or when FOI bill passes into law…maybe we can get a copy of CSAFP decision if there will be already one…hopefully. Not anymore privileged or secret at that.
baycas says
I’m not inclined to wait for the panel that the CSAFP formed.
The battle is at the SC. I’m curious how the magistrates will regard a peer review (Honor Code ‘trial’).
Is the “reasonable person” standard applicable? [e.g., Similarly situated as Cudia with a chance of pulling down his grades because of demerits and punishments, will a reasonable cadet also lie (make palusot) that “the class was dismissed late” or just simply say “I was instructed by my instructor to wait for my grade which I requested from her?”]
Btw, here’s the petition…
http://totocausing.blogspot.com/2014/03/revelation-our-petition-to-sc-for-cudia.html
leona says
@baycas…thanks for the link of Atty. Bertini Causing’s petition.
leona says
The ‘certification’ of Maria Monica C. Costales, Ph.D. on Par. 1 (d) says:
“That the statements of the three (3) cadets [referring to Cadets Narciso, Arcangel and CUDIA] are all the same and consistent, thus I honor that as true.” Assume this as FACT One.
Further in the ‘certification’ she says on Par. 2: “As to the aspect of dismissing late, I could not really account for the specific time that I dismissed the class.” Assume this as FACT Two.
Since, both assumptions above are certified by Ms. Costales, these FACTS are true as assumed.
But nowwhere did Ms. Costales state any fact or certify any fact that she did dismissed the Class on time. If she did where is it in the ‘certification?’ None. But the 3 Cadets all made ‘the same and consistent statements’ that Ms. Costales honor as true…that the Class was not dismissed on time…but seconds or minutes later after the allowed time.
I do not consider myself as ‘supporter’ for Cadet Cudia. It is his contentions that I am supporting…the truth and the untruth he is facing…under COURAGE [ ability to control fear when facing danger (Oxford English Dictionary) ].
Is the Code of Honor at the PMA Academy that so rigid for all Cadets including Cadet Cudia’s appeal ‘in the name of clarity, fairness and truth’ [Document dtd 7 Jan. 7, 2014 Honor Report, quoting Major Hindang, PAF, definition of ‘Lying’] as originator.
’45 seconds to 1 minute and 30 seconds’ – after ‘1500H end of Class was because [acc to Cadet Cudia’s statement] “waited for her [Ms. Costales] “that made me to decide to write * a little bit late* in my explanation’
Cadet Cudia said “Truly, the class ENDED 1500H but due to official purpose (instruction by Ms. Costales to wait) and the conflict in academic schedule 9to which I am not in control of the circumstances’ etc.’
Is that explanation not a reason? What do we call that then? A reason that is unreasonable? Empty? No value? Useless? I guess or believe not.
When there is that circumstance of “to wait” after 1500H by order of Ms. Costales in her Class, are cadets validly/legally considered “late” for the next Class because of that ‘waiting?”
I say no. It cannot. And it should not. The four named cadets were not ‘late’ in the sense that arriving at the next Class ‘for no reason or reasonable reason’ was not present. There was a very good reason for that and that good reason does not make arriving at the next Class as ‘late.’
[If PMA Code of Honor say otherwise, I do not know what Code it is actually practicing!]
I am and never was in that Academy but I and others can see what things are right and not right.
Since Ms. Costales’ acts of ‘delay’ incurred the four cadets’ a ‘late’ arrival, who is to blame? The four cadets? I say again …No.
Ms. Costales in her written statement said – “I agree and consider that because Cadet CUDIA is under my instruction to wait, and the other cadets still have business with me, it is reasonable enough for him to say that “Our class was dismissed a bit late (dealing with the matter of seconds or a minute particularly 35 seconds to 1 minute and 30 seconds).”
Ms. Costales uses the word “reasonable enough” whether Cadet Cudia adopted to copy this or not, Ms. Costales’ use of the words is correct. But why disregard Cadet Cudia’s explanation with these ‘reasonable enough’ by the Code of Honor Panel of the PMA?
I say Cadet Cudia’s case has merit. It has enough reasonable reasons. The doubt of his alleged ‘lying’ is unclear and is in his favor as so clear. His recommendation for dismissal is not clear on the facts.
To be rigid on that code of honor policy under these set of facts, is unconscionable, unfair, erroneous and outright violating due process and equal protection of the law.
The truth and only the truth will set one free …the ability to control fear when facing the danger of dismissal. That is what COURAGE means.
That is INTEGRITY and LOYALTY. Each has a meaning. A thought. A course of action. These words are not empty! Cadets are expected to know this not by memorizing alone but the grasping of their meanings.
Not only the field of battle but also in time of peace these words have the same meanings. PMA should consider a Cadet’s beliefs in those words, how it is understood by each cadet and his/her actions based thereon. Each cadet as his/her personality, consciousness, actuations, etc.
To adopt the notion that ‘all cadets’ must be absolutely the same with every other cadet towards those words: INTEGRITY, COURAGE and LOYALTY…I do not have that belief.
That is not reason. I call it unreasonable. Cadet Cudia’s actions are and were in accordance with that motto of the PMA Academy. Until clear valid facts contra-wise to his are shown, his case stands tall without tarnishing the Academy.
Rene-Ipil says
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Leona posted what Cudia said ““Truly, the class ENDED 1500H.” If Cudia really said that, he was MISTAKEN, if not LYING, because the next class started at 1500H. Ending the previous class and the following class at the same time or even a minute or two apart is impossible to happen.
As I said before the class marcher had to form the class into a squad after walking out of the classroom and line up in the hallway at one arm length from each other. This took about 4 minutes. Then the cadets would be ordered to count off. Since some cadets are missing, the class marcher had to inquire who and why. This took about 5 minutes. After being told that the missing cadets were having a meeting with Ms. Costales, the class waited for a while until it was time to march or proceed to the next classroom to avoid being late or to beat the 1500H deadline. This took maybe another 5 minutes.
So that even if we compress all those activities into less than ten minutes, it was physically impossible to believe that Ms. Costales class ended at 1500H. Either Cudia was mistaken or lying.
leona says
Sorry, I disagree with your ‘details’ on 2nd paragraph as not according to the statements of Cdt. Cudia and Ms. Costales. It goes awry at that. Thanks for saying ‘mistaken’ or Cdt Cudia is lying.
If the Code of Honor Panel did see ‘mistaken’ or ‘lying'[as you find it] it preferred the latter discarding ‘mistaken’ without reasonable explanation.
In that case, a doubt is hanging on the accusatory acts of Cadet Cudia. We know where it would lead to…in favor of Cadet Cudia.
Rene-Ipil says
What do you mean? I merely copied the pertinent portion of your post VERBATIM.
Rene-Ipil says
Please disregard the above. My mistake.
Rene-Ipil says
Could you or anybody else point out what is wrong with the second paragraph? Can anyone tell if what I wrote happened did not happen?
leona says
@Rene…
“the class marcher had to form the class into a squad after walking out of the classroom and line up in the hallway at one arm length from each other. ” Not in the statements of Cadet Cudia nor of Ms. Costales.
“Then the cadets would be ordered to count off. Since some cadets are missing, the class marcher had to inquire who and why.” Same reply/answer.
“After being told that the missing cadets were having a meeting with Ms. Costales, the class waited for a while until it was time to march or proceed to the next classroom to avoid being late or to beat the 1500H deadline. ”
Same answer.
“If Cudia really said that, he was MISTAKEN, if not LYING, because the next class started at 1500H.” At 1st Paragraph. I will add this…something ‘new’ on the idea of ‘mistaken’ by Cadet Cudia as you say.
What I discussed here did not include those quoted portions on your 2nd paragraph. So, I said “I disagree with your details on 2nd paragraph as not according to the statements of Cdt. Cudia and Ms. Costales’ etc. from the LINK provided by @baycas which I accessed and quoted some of it here etc.
As far as the link of @baycas is given, I believe no such of your 2nd paragraph details I did see happen…they could have happened, but I did not see it in the link given. You could be right that the ‘details’ [you gave] could have happened. And I am mistaken.
Who could tell us that the ‘details’ did really happen or not. Not me.
Where did you get this accurate ‘detail’ – – –
…”the class marcher had to form the class into a squad after walking out of the classroom and line up in the hallway at one arm length from each other’?
Same question…”Then the cadets would be ordered to count off’?
Same question…”Since some cadets are missing, the class marcher had to inquire who and why’?
Same question…”After being told that the missing cadets were having a meeting with Ms. Costales’?
and to continue …”the class waited for a while until it was time to march or proceed to the next classroom to a void being late or beat the 1500H deadline’?
I can make some guesses…But where did you get these ‘details’ described on your 2nd paragraph?
Rene-Ipil says
I have a reliable source. I suggest that you confirm or belie my statements by asking someone who had undergone the same ritual. The cadet’s life is strictly regimented that their activities are manualized. Of course the best witness would be the cadets involved themselves. You are correct that Cudia never mentioned such details because he was not at the formation, accounting and march off for obvious reason. He was absent in those preliminary classroom activities. But Cudia talked as if such activities did not happen or could not happen. Cudia said that the class ended at 1500H. Impossible!!
Don’t take my word. Just ask somebody who had been there or had experienced a cadet’s life.
Rene-Ipil says
I posted my reply but is missing without a trace.
Among other statements:
I said I have a reliable source.
Just ask somebody who had been there or had experienced a cadet’s life.
baycas says
http://rangercabunzky.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-cadet-honor-code-my-personal.html
letlet says
Dr. Costales should be held responsible for the lateness of Cudia as she is very aware of the rules on the lateness for the next class. She should not ask the cadets to wait. She should have told the cadets to go to their next class immediately to avoid being late. Cudia should be absolved.
leona says
@Rene…I cannot agree ‘to ask’ somebody about ‘a cadet’s life’ at the PMA…there – I will confuse myself to get diverted from Cadet Cudia’s case etc.
@baycas’ link to rangercabunzky, after reading it, is ‘based only on the ranger’s “own story” and not on Cadet’s Cudia. Maybe many of that story’s details did happen but not what happened to Cadet Cudia, Ms. Costales, Maj. Hindaang atbpa on this matter at issue.
Mr. Ranger’s story is about what ‘he heard’ ON April 1, 1990…today is March 2014, or on Nov. 2013, that’s about 23 years ago. Honestly, I am sure it’s factual events as the same on November 2013 or now. Thanks to Rangercabunsky just the same.
Ranger’s said “Bawal to release the certification’ of Ms. Costales to the public. Is it that? Is it not a ‘public document’ issued by a professor connected with a gov’t Institution…PMA supported by taxes/money from the people? Bawal? With the forthcoming FOI bill, still ‘Bawal’?
Any case at the Honor Code hearing is ‘privileged information’? Secret? Why keep it a secret? Fate of cadets are at issue…retention or dismissal. Is that it?
How does the public gets to know whether there is ‘honor’ in the System if proceedings are privileged or secret? Shall it be the rule to accept that it is so always? Is knowing what takes place there tarnishing the PMA? I do not think so.
In short, PMA is a forbidden kingdom. Halley-luy-a!
Thanks for allowing me to know this CPMers.
leona says
@letlet…you have a very steady the same good opinion.
Cadet Cudia got his undue punishment. Ms. Costales maybe got away from it.
Rene-Ipil says
Leona, I also wrote in my missing post that of course Cudia would not know personally what transpired between 1445H and 1500H because he was absent during the class formation, accounting and marching. So Cudia’s account during those 15 minutes would not be based, similar to mine, on personal observation insofar as my second paragraph is concerned.
Victin Luz says
In defense of cadet CUDIA to all the LATES POSTING of @sir BAYCAS……….
OBEDIENCE to a wrong procedure’s in the PMA HONOR CODE is a WRONG PATH to follow….CUDIA’s case will straightened the PMA CODE of HONOR un- righteous path….
REASONABLENESS ……is not telling aLIE …the same ….UNREASONABLENESS is not also telling a lie……….CUDIA was telling the TRUTH ,nobody can contest that….NON- OBEDIENCE is not also telling a lie…
My defense @Mr. Baycas………Galileo’s theory that the SUN does not REVOLVED around the EARTH but it was the EARTH REVOLVING around the SUN…..THE .ROMAN CATHOLICs and their MINIONs all over the world for so many decades and centuries before and after Galileos theory came out ,,,DOES NOT BELIEVE HIM…. HE was tried , incarcerrated , placed under house arrest , and EVEN DECLARED as an AGNOSTIC PERSON by the VATICAN,,,, there was no OFFICIAL ACCEPTANCE for many centuries whre in fact HE WAS THEN TELLING the TRUTH…Galileo died without FORGIVENESS from Vatican nor the TRUTHFULNESS of his THEORY which was validated by HISTORY ( TIME ) …..GALILEO was offered of so many things , promises of WEALTH and POWER , by withdrawing his THEORY ,, because it was then a DIRECT ATTACKED to the ROMAN CATHOLICs in ROME and all over the WORLD and the WORSE according to historians/catholis it was a DIRECT ATTACKED on the BIBLE ( to GOD ….ang panakot nila kay Galileo ) ..
GALILEO NEVER LIED….HE DIS-OBEYED the ROMAN CATHOLIC….he insist on the TRUTH….
JUST LIKE CUDIA why OBEY when you KNOW it was WRONG……
Victin Luz says
To what VALUE’s the PMA HONOR COMMITEE HAD? sir @ BAYCAS ,,,by telling a lie ? Or by manipulating the TRUTH to become a LIE?
Wag na tayong lumabas sa kaso ni CUDIA dahil kung lumabas tayo kay CUDIA , wala akong value na makita sa mga taga PMA………
SILENT ..SILENCE…. Ano po sir @Baycas….educate us please…thanks
Victin Luz says
COLOR of LIES…NADA….every reasons made by CUDIA why HE WAS LATE are affirmed by DR. COSTALES………SO CUDIA did not ever LIED ….IF late is late , we all agree but in the END,,, CUDIA was LATE but never LIED….
INTEGRITY, COURAGE , LOYALTY so as OBEDIENCE,,, can not be acquired BY an ASCENDING to the WRONG DECISION/PROCEDURE of the PMA HONOR COMMITTE which was wrong..
LABAN…LABAN…LABAN …CUDIA…. God and Justice are always be with you…
baycas says
1/5
BEING REASONABLE
A reasonable leader (and manager!) like PNoy won’t burn bridges.
He learned firsthand first the ‘mentalities’ of the CRAB and the Cudias then decided (The decision to let CSAFP to re-investigate without prejudice to Cudia’s fate as a graduating cadet is already publicly known.).
He didn’t tarnish the image of an institution upholding the Honor Code but will eventually (hopefully!) improve the prevailing Honor System in the future.
It was a welcome relief for me and I find the decision coming from a reasonable person.
baycas says
2/5
REASONABLE REASONING
The word “reasonable” in relation to Aldrin Jeff P. Cudia appeared in this Raissa Robles’ web page for three (3) times yesterday as of 10:41am…and they all came from @Victin Luz, a staunch Cudia supporter. I like that.
However, I would like to refer anyone reading this comment of mine to the document “Written Appeal” made by Cudia on January 24, 2014:
http://www.rappler.com/nation/51485-copy-written-appeal-of-cadet-jeff-cudia
With ‘he said, she said’ so-called facts abundant everywhere, I believe it is safe to use the failed written appeal of Cudia as a firsthand information.
Cudia also supplied the word “reasonable” there on its fifth and last page purportedly indicating that his professor agreed and certified the veracity of Cudia’s typewritten words. Dr. Costales, the professor, eventually signed on the blank space which Cudia provided. In addition, the reasonable professor likewise issued a certification separate from what Cudia wrote.
Victin Luz says
@sir baycas…UN – ACCEPTED APPEAL by CUDIA by the HC abundant of FACTS and TRUTH…….and in the court of law the written appeal as AGREED and CERTIFIED by Dr. Cortales speak for itself as our lawyers said ,it will be the BEST EVIDENCE that CUDIA did not LIE when he was late…… NO LYING…padin …kahit paikotikotin nyo pa @sir Baycas …NO LYING si CUDIA…
moonie says
to satisfy his critics, cudio should put himself under lie detector test. show to all and sundry he is not deceptive and not been deceptive. but 1st, he should give blood sample for lab testing, make sure he has no illegal substances in his blood stream that may interfere with test result.
leona says
A lie detector machine can be manipulated by an expert as it is not accurate as expected…reason why courts do not accept results from that machine.
moonie says
there are grids ranging from 1 to 10. anything under 5 is deceptive.
there will be not one, but two questions asked. if cudia persistently scored below 5 to both questions, then it says something about him. like the blood pressure machine (sphygnomanometer) a lie detector machine is calibrated to standard. and why would the expert manipulate the machine and destroy his status and credibility among his peers – just for cudia?
if cudia is telling the truth, he has nothing to fear from the lie detector machine. it will be his friend. and right now, he needs a good friend.
moonie says
and if cudia got positive test results, scoring 6 in one question, 7 on the other, that could mean he was truthful. he can then show the test results to the whole nation, telling one and all he has been truthful all along and got tangible proof for it, his stance greatly enhanced by the results. many of his critics would shut up then.
baycas says
3/5
Reasonable, reasonable…
The Honor Code is unbreakable and the Honor System, while there may be flaws as admitted by PNoy through Gazmin, is simply being implemented (Read: indoctrinated) within the PMA in the hope that like-minded people will be able to follow such Code to the letter and successfully weed out the offenders of the Code.
By what standard must be exacted in being able to ascertain the obedience or disobedience to the Code?
Reasonably, it is the standard by which any PMA cadet is subjected to that will determine the offense or non-offense to the Honor Code. The cadets themselves set the standard according to the Code that was passed on from generation to generation.
The processes included in the Honor System may have evolved through time possibly with a pendulum-type of change from absoluteness to leniency and vice-versa. I believe the systematic process now is absolute (meaning: no color of lies) with a harsh punishment (meaning: without gradation — an all-or-nothing principle).
The inviolable Honor Code standard may be likened to any professional standard that a profession sets for its own members. The professional standard requires that a member must think and act in a manner that another REASONABLE member who was faced with similar particular set of circumstances would think and act. Here, the ‘like-mindedness’ among peers is very important. If one member thought and acted differently from the rest, then he was not able to meet the standard.
A perfect example is the fact that most of the classmates of Cudia were able to come on time to the next class as it is their DUTY while five of them, including Cudia, were late. A reasonable cadet who arrived on time may be an expert witness that the class was effectively dismissed in time for the next class. The tardiness was the reason for the delinquency report.
baycas says
4/5
Another example, but this time in the negative sense, is the unreasonable claims of Cudia to regard the five members of his class, including him, to be a “class” of its own and “coming directly from the 4th period class”. Cudia explained…
The claim that the five of them were a “class” of its own is unreasonable and untenable because not all of them have business with the professor Dr. Costales. There were only three (3) of them who requested something from their professor.
What raced into Cudia’s mind when he was explaining his delinquency to even consider the five of them being “a class”?
With the real class having been dismissed ahead of the five delinquent cadet, Cudia could not have come from the 4th period class as he averred in his explanation.
Moreover, since Cudia is not part of “the class” of many or even “a class” of five cadets during “the (little) bit of time” that he was unaccounted for in the next class (5th period), he was practically doing a personal business with his instructor unmindful of the duty to be with the majority of his class. Though, of course, while one could argue that there was an instruction to officially stay “a (little) bit of time” thereby making the “circumstances uncontrollable for him”, Cudia had all the time in the world to “control the circumstances” of reasonably explaining the delinquency report of his 2-minute tardiness.
The standard by which a reasonable cadet in a similar situation as Cudia during that fateful day is that that cadet will justify such tardiness in the FIRST PERSON like the one proffered by his peers…
He did not have to resort to making the five of them be regarded as a “class” because the first person point of view will reasonably show he is responsible (accountable) enough as dictated by professionalism. Again, he has “control of the circumstances” in order to come up with a better choice of words that any cadet like him who will readily, squarely, forthrightly reason in the first person and REASONABLY will NOT drag a whole class and SAVE all the trouble for his instructor…who is lately being blamed for his tardiness.
raissa says
sorry about that.
baycas says
Thanks.
baycas says
5/5
REASONABLE NATIONAL INTEREST
How is it now that this whole “Cudia Affair” became a national interest?
It is of national interest because the gate of Fort General Gregorio del Pilar speaks of Courage, Integrity, and Loyalty to those who will enter it and commands Courage, Integrity, and Loyalty upon those who exit it after being molded for four years by such core values.
Forming a PMAer frame of mind is glaring in this latest national debate.
Each PMAer must be influenced to possess the ideals that the Academy has promised.
Courage. If only this cadet we are talking about had the courage to clear himself directly (in first person viewpoint) and faced adversity even to the point of risking his academic rank, even to the point of risking his prestigious life in the honor roll…
Integrity. If only this cadet had the strength and moral uprightness to uphold the Honor Code rather than trample it down…
Loyalty. If only this cadet had been faithful and supportive of his soon-to-be alma mater which the country had nurtured since time immemorial and NOT drag the country and ironically allowed the nation to defend him…
Then all this discussion would not have been possible. AJP Cudia through his sister was instrumental in making this a national interest.
All the more I must support the PMA with its Honor Code and it’s three-pronged ideals. No amount of ligots and garcias, and possibly cudias, will bring it down because a lot of PMAers are good…only a handful are rotten because they had forgotten how PMA had taught them, what PMA had promised them, and why PMA had molded them.
I salute the fallen heroes from PMA and this essay is dedicated to them as well as the throng who is presently living with time-honored PMA values and traditions.
Victin Luz says
I also salute the PMAers for they should have not FALLEN , if time – unhonored PMA value’s and tradition’s was corrected sooner…..and never again will PMA make TRUTH became a LIE and a LIE became the TRUTH….
PMA should not follow the footstep of the Roman Catholics very late acceptance of the TRUTHFULNESS on GALILEOs theory ….. PMAs HONOR CODE defectiveness shall be corrected immediately so that courage, integrity, loyalty and HONESTY among the cadets 1st can be attained…
baycas says
(Note: The No. 4/5 is still in limbo.)
baycas says
Correction:
Should “first person singular” in all instances above…also appearing in the ‘spam-foldered’ Section No. 4/5 of my comment.
I failed to put the term “singular”.
baycas says
I will attempt to re-post the missing Section 4/5 of my comment is not yet released from the spam folder…
Piecemeal, here it is…
baycas says
4/5
Another example, but this time in the negative sense, is the unreasonable claims of Cudia to regard the five members of his class, including him, to be a “class” of its own and “coming directly from the 4th period class”. Cudia explained…
leona says
Cadet Cudia’s alleged ‘lie’ was not on whether it was ‘the Class” or ‘other cadets’ that were alluded to…a very minor point.
What was the main point was the alleged ‘lie’ that ‘he made’ re “his” coming ‘late’ to the next Class and his explanation mainly involving “himself” at that. He gave his explanation why he used the word “Class”…actually there was no need for that.
His written appeal, though not well done, but the message on it is clear…the thoughts and reasons as explained. I don’t blame him for some inaccuracies of his ‘terms’ he used. As I believe, it is a minor discrepancy or an inaccurate use. We disagree that you believe it is otherwise.
baycas says
He struggled explaining the “Our class” because the five of them do not constitute the “class.” He made a mistake…had a hard time justifying the mistake.
Check pages 1 and 2 of his “Written Appeal.”
Anyway…
Section 4/5 is already uploaded at Comment No. 99.3. Thanks, @raissa.
baycas says
4/5 is up at 99.3…
baycas says
Ok, no can do. 1st piece pa lang di na na-publish…
I will need to ask help from @raissa…
@raissa, please un-spam the Section 4/5 of my Comment No. 99.
TIA.
baycas says
[NEWS]
Cudia lied. So says the SC…
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/442036/news/nation/dismissed-pma-cadet-cudia-fails-to-get-sc-relief
leona says
PNoy say let us end ‘medyo critters’… mediocrity culture daw!
Sino mga ito? Mga public servants na kawatans.
leona says
From PDI news Former Gen. Dizon says “xxx said that Cudia’s attempts to take his case to the civil courts of the Philippines could further alienate him from his peers and the PMA.
“He will most likely be ostracized by the entire PMA Alumni including his peers and superiors on active military duty,” Dizon said. “Even a ‘man of steel’ could not last in this environment of rejection.”
Maybe Cadet Cudia is a ‘man of law and steel!”
Now, the news at TV reports is he brought today his case to the Supreme Court and the respondents are required to file their comments.
Which will prevail: the law or the Code of Honor at PMA?
Rene-Ipil says
The link:
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/587561/retired-general-to-cudia-join-afp-reserves
moonie says
rene-ipil, I dont think cudia is cut out to be reservist. he is allergic to discipline.
leona says
Hahaha…’cut out’ like a dress-cutter or tailor…cutting the pieces as patterns…if it doesn’t fit you must convict…and not acquit!
‘Obey First Before You Complain’ …that’s why there was such a thing as the Maliwalu Massacre in Tarlac years ago!
‘Shoot the Chinese Illegal Fishermen [I agree!] ‘
‘Don’t Shoot That Hostage Taker’ [at the Luneta Incident] Until I Say So’ [they had the change when the hostage taker brought himself out to the door of that Bus]
‘Throw Smoke Grenade Into the BPI Bank In Cubao, Q.C. Then Rush Inside’ [cops without Gas Masks did rush and came out coughing] Following ‘Obey First…’
‘Collar and Arrest Ted Failon’s Relatives’ …following ‘Obey First Before You Complain.
‘Pick Up and Kidnap That Reporter Burgos Guy. Hide Him Forever’….following ‘Obey First…’
‘Arrest All Those People At That Town In Rizal Province For They Are All NPA Suspects’ …again Obey First Before You Complain
‘Hide This Fugitive General’ for some … Obeying First before Asking Question…ditto
‘Give Gen. Garcia All That Money’ …Yes Sir!
…hehehe…
‘Let’s Go …Do A Coup de ‘Tat’….officers and men obeys…
Cut Out…ehe? Disciplined? No Sir! Undisciplined. Code of Honor? Nyet! Nada.
leona says
Link http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/587561/retired-general-to-cudia-join-afp-reserves
Victin Luz says
A CRISS-CROSSED minded General….That was General DIZON….even without the case of CUDIA,,, many PMAers already disliked their own classmates…. during EDSA ,,during those Coupt deta,,, during their tour of duty,,,,,BASIC characteristics of an individual, when you opposed a system , almost all against the oppositionist… HOW could you alienate the TRUTH ? How could you alienate a cadet telling the TRUTH ? …if ever CUDIA will be ostracized by PMA alumni (wihich is unbelievable ) ,HISTORY will tell , CUDIA walked on the RIGHTEOUS PATH…….
CUDIA will be like GALILEO ,,,Galileo by telling the TRUTH ,HE was alienated by the ROMAN CATHOLIC ( pope and below almost all ) and their minion’s for more than 100 years for telling the TRUTH that the SUN does not revolved around the EARTH but it was the mother EARTH revolving around the SUN……..Galileo was incarcinated placed under house arrest for decades and even declared as an AGNOSTIC PERSON…… A harsh penalty by the Roman Catholic during Galileos TIME…. …HE STAND FIRM on his studies and beliefs and HE already died when HE was proven RIGHT……….
THE TREATH of Gen. Dizon means CUDIAs CASE was a direct attack on the WRONGNESS on PMA HONOR CODE procedures…..
laban CUDIA ,,JUSTICE is always with the person who tell the TRUTH……..
leona says
Here is the contents of Sen. Rene Espina’s article re Cadet Cudia:
“The Cudia affair
by Former Senator Atty. Rene Espina
March 17, 2014
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This is a case where PMA Cadet 1CL (First Class) Aldrin Jeff Cudia was allegedly summarily tried and convicted of breaking the honor code which states that: “A Cadet does not lie, cheat, steal, nor tolerate those who do.” The case is now on appeal with the PMA Cadet Review and Appeals Board (CRAB).
Here are some brief facts on the case: 1) Appellant Cudia was issued a delinquency report dated 19 Nov 2003 with the offense of “late for two minutes in his Eng 412 class 14-15:00H-16:00H Nov 2013.” The appellant previously gave his explanation: “Our class was dismissed a little bit late and I came directly from the fourth period class etc…” He further explained that his teacher Dr. Monica Costales instructed him and four other cadet classmates to wait for her so that she can give them their grades. Apellant waited for Dr. Costales and appellant used the words “class” and “dismissed.” Apellant waited for around 45 seconds to 1 minute 30 seconds, that is why he used the phrase a little bit late in his explanation.
On December 19, appellant was given 11 demerits and 13 touring hours. He obeyed the instruction but believing that he did not commit any violation, he approached their Tactical Officer Major Hindang, PAF, to seek clarification. To make a long story short, Major Hindang, told Cudia that the basis of the demerit was his conversation with Doctor Costales. Cudia’s written explanation on his request for the reconsideration of his demerit states: “Sir I strongly believe that I am not in control of the circumstances, our 4th period class ended 1500H and our 5th period class, which is ENG412, started 1500H also. Immediately after 4th period class, I went to my next class without any intention of being late Sir.”
On the basis of the written explanation, an Honor Report (charge) was made by Major Hindang, quote: “Lying that is giving a statement that perverts the truth in his written appeal, stating that his 4th period class ended at 1500H that made him late in the succeeding class.” An Honor Committee was formed consisting of nine first-class cadets and a hearing was conducted. Cadet Cudia pleaded not guilty. After the hearing, the Committee announced that there must be a unanimous decision to arrive at a guilty verdict. The Honor Code itself provides that “(a) unanimous vote (9 votes) of guilty decides that a cadet is found guilty of violating the Honor Code.” Presiding Officer (1CL Salvacion) announced the results of the voting: 8 for conviction and 1 vote was for acquittal.
However after the announcement was made, the Honor Committee Chairman 1CL Mogol ordered the voting members to go to a secret room. After their discussion, the verdict became a unanimous vote of guilty. 1CL Cadet Largo was the one who voted for acquittal.
Relevant to the change in the voting, there is an affidavit of Commander Phl Navy (GSC) Junjie B. Tabuada, Head, Department of Naval Warfare, of which portions are quoted verbatim regarding his meeting with 1CL Cadet Largo: “When he was about to leave I called him, “Lags, halika muna ditto,” and he approached me and I let him sit down in the chair in front of my table. I told and asked him, “Talagang nadali si Cudia ah…ano ba ang nangyari? Mag-tagalog or Mag-Bisaya ka?” He replied, “Talagang not guilty ang vote ko sa kanya sir,” and I asked him, “Oh, bakit naging guilty? Di ba pag may isang nag not guilty, abswelto na?” He replied “Chinamber ako sir, bale pinapa-justify kung bakit not guilty vote ko, at na-pressure din ako sir kaya binago ko, sir.” So, I told him, “Sayang sya, matalino at mabait pa naman,” and he replied, “Oo nga sir.” After that conversation, I let him go.”
I understand that the affidavit is with the Commission on Human Rights Baguio Office. In fairness, the media has reported that 1CL Cadet Largo has denied the said allegations in an affidavit also at that Office.
On my part there is only one truth: – Who of the two is violating the Honor Code? I leave that to my readers.
There is also a certification by Dr. Maria Monica Costales which we quote verbatim: “I agree and consider that because Cadet Cudia is under my instruction to wait, and the other cadets still have business with me, it is reasonable enough for him to say that “Our class was dismissed a bit late” (dealing with matter of seconds or a minute, particularly 45 seconds, to 1 minute and 30 seconds). And with concern to OR432 class, I can say it ended on time (1500H). Sgd. MCostales w/attached certification.”
Of course there is the principle of due process of law and that the penalty must be commensurate to the alleged infraction or crime as stated in the various Supreme Court decisions. I commend the Public Attorney’s Office headed by Atty Persida V. Rueda Acosta, Henry M. Francisco, OIC Regional Public Atty. and Atty Daisy G. Padolina Limos, Public Atty. II for taking the cudgels for Cadet Cudia. I hope truth, fairness, and justice will prevail.
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Portion from that states: “He replied “Chinamber ako sir, bale pinapa-justify kung bakit not guilty vote ko, at na-pressure din ako sir kaya binago ko, sir.” This is Cadet Largo.
“Chinamber ako” simply means “I was secreted into a ‘chamber’ another room maybe for very secret illegal pressuring etc.
The President must have read this article or other sources on this. He ordered a ‘review’ a delayed action to save the fate of Cadet Cudia.
Maybe for lack of material time to catch up with the forthcoming graduation ceremony…PNoy did not want to make haste to waste the honor of the Honor System at the PMA. So CSAFP
ordered to review.
Cadet Cudia’s embarrassing situation resulted. Besmirched reputation as a good Cadet. Long sleepless nights. Lost honor at that. A damaged cadet. A damaged person. The injury has been done. How can this be rectified…soon? Maybe a little long long while.
If this Cudia incident took place November 2013, why the matter was not sooner reviewed before the graduation rites by the Office of the President, Cadet Cudia’s may have proven his innocence earlier and be able to march with the others. Who delayed this review for the OP?
CSAFP? PMA Cmdnt? Who? WHO?
Are there more relevant facts to this aside from this article of Sen. Espina?
leona says
Btw…if or when ‘pressure’ was applied on Cadet Largo to change his vote for acquittal into a vote for guilty…that is like jury tampering! The verdict is null and void.
Who applied that pressure on Cdt. Largo surely must be someone…an upper class cadet or cadets or an a regular AFP officer… officers.
Next important question is the review and investigation that may result to some guilty personalities at the PMA, and will it be a good one with the true and lawful result?
Last question: Whose reputation will be prevailing – PMA, AFP or Cadet Cudia’s?
sykes says
as a civilian, i assumed na “chamber” meant ikukulong sa kwarto ang cadet at sasabihan na ” pag di mo binago ang boto mo, di ka lalabas dyan” :)
yun pala all nine honor code committee members will be in a room where they will be given a chance to explain and defend their vote. which is right. at least dito malalaman ng lahat kung bakit ganyan ang boto mo. magmumukha kang engot pag sinabi mo na not guilty ang vote mo kasi kaibigan/kamag-anak/kasintahan/ kababayan mo yung subject ng botohan. o simpleng naaawa ka lang dahil sa tingin mo matalino at mabait kahit na klaro namang may kasalanan din yung tao.
ngayon maraming nagrereklamo about the 8-1 na naging 9-0 vote. of course may pressure yan just like any jury deliberations. nasa sole dissenting voter kung gaano katatag ang paninindigan at paniniwala nya na walang kasalanan si cudia. remember, grave ang punishment pag honor code, masusubukan ang tibay ng loob at prinsipyo mo sa ganung sitwasyon.
did the cadet changed his vote simply because he succumbed to pressure or did he initially vote not guilty out of sympathy and not merits of the case? yan ang mga tanong na apparently sinagot na mismo ni Cadet Lags.
pero kung sa supreme court yan or any civilian voting process where majority rules, tanggal pa rin si cudia sa 8-1 voting result. pasalamat pa ang mga honor code violators sa PMA kasi sa isang dissenting vote lang it will negate the will of the majority.
leona says
@sykes…the rule is unanimous…means all vote for a verdict…when voting was 8-1 with 1 for acquittal…no unanimity. This voting was in favor of Cdt Cudia…innocent!
…after officially releasing that verdict of acquittal, that is the only time the members of the code committee can be made to explain the reasons for their votes but not before.
Indeed the members were inside a pressuring chamber!
It is grossly and highly irregular to ask the code cmmttee members the reasons for their votes while their verdict is kept and not released. Ano klaseng ‘jury’ [as it is like that] system is PMA adopting? Kangaroo system? Jumping/Jumping voting?
Mali! A dishonorable code committee is existing at the PMA then. Erroneous mechanism so highly at that.
leona says
Like in law [USA style] from the facts if these are what took place…a mistrial of the case of Cadet Cudia happened. But a mistrial in real law requires charging anew the respondent cadet.
Since a review was ordered by PNoy on the CSAFP, set aside the erroneous verdict of guilty due to tampering on Cadet Largo and uphold the first voting as the correct and valid verdict….INNOCENT/not guilty.
leona says
Link http://www.mb.com.ph/the-cudia-affair/
Victin Luz says
May galit o nainggit kay CUDIA @leona ..pweding ka klase nya na gustong mahila sya pababa sa number 2 ranking or Officer at the PMA na pag nagreklamo sya sa mga demerits nya ay mas mallalaang parusa nyang aabutin…he he at iyan nga expulsion at kahihiyaan ng familya nila… Pero ang pagkakamali ang sino mang nagplano nito ay lumabas na NAKAKAHIYA ANG PMA .
Victin Luz says
@leona …si Major Hindang he he palagay ko namumuro na sya he he
letlet says
The root cause of this debacle on Cudia affair was Dr. Costales Why did she ask the five cadets to wait for her to show their grades when all the while she is very much aware that 1, 2, 3, minutes late to the next class has corresponding punishments. What was her ulterior motive for making them wait as her actions spoke of intentionally done. Was there another cadet whom she wanted to be salutatorian and not Cudia. Cudia should be absolved of lying, and Dr Costales should be investigated instead and be punished.
There could be also some sort of jealousy among the members of HC, not wanting Cudia to be salutatorian. The pressure on Cadet Lagos to change his verdict into guilty is not acceptable as this was a violation of his right. For his chinamber is also violation of his right. HC has committed serious mistake.
Cudia should be absolved.
Victin Luz says
Alam mo @letlet…CHED rules and regulation ata ang BELL RINGINGs 1st bell, 2nd bell and 3rd bell or Final BELL at kung minsan 2nd BELL palang ay final bell na iyan sa ibang school….and the final bell will be the start of the next immediate class….PMA was also under CHED for sure,,,so DR. COSTALES in an emergency situation or as the INSTRUCTOR DEEM NEEDED can HOLD her class ( whole or some of them ) up to 15:00H…kaya lang since PMA mga ay strict dyan sa LATE is LATE ( w/demerits if late ka ) School rules matbe na maybe to dissmiss your class on the 1st BELL….
If only we can hear the statement of that INSTRUCTOR of the immediate class after DR. COSTALES on what time did he/she really started classes.. SINO sa kanila ang nagsumbung kay Maj. HINDANG o kaya automatic ba sa mga cadet na mag report sila kay HINDANG pag may late? Or ang instructor ba dapat ang mag official report to HINDANG… THEN whoever made the report dapat malaman sana natin kung ” WHAT was the PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP nya kay CUDIA..
Si Maj. Hindang ba being their tactical officer alone , can declare such penalty of demerits and tour hrs. with FINALITY na hindi na nya pinasulat si CUDIA and threw Cudias protest to the HC ? Kung may power kasi sya “” baka nagalit sya na nagreklamo si CUDIA sa penalty nya … so lalong nagalit si HINDANG at instead of 11 demerits and 13 touring hrs..lang ..EXPELLED na mga …. WHO among them now brilliantly planned to/for the Honor Committee to EXTRACT ( had extracted ) a decision that CUDIA LIED ( unanimous vote against Cudia ).. KASI kahit anong gawin nating analysis , in relation sa mga Certication ni DR. Cortales ( SHE has all the rights to hold her class until 15:00 ) CUDIA tell the TRUTH and the most that the HC can do sana is INCREASE the demerits and touring hrs.. ( kasi the HC and whoever can not contest Dr. Cortales LIED …jesus christ bahala ka kung late ka dyan but I can hold you until the end my official Class Schedule… and in fact hindi nya naman siguro ginagawa ni Dr. Cortales open iyon …) pinalabas talaga nilang LYING si CUDIA in order that NEXT TIME ( addrees to all cadets sa PMA ) pag may demerits kayo MALI or TAMA , dont ARGUE or wag kang magrereklamo kahit kanino diba @letlet…
sino ngayon ang LYING at nasira hindi lang naman si CUDIA kundi pati ang PMA and of course they know kung sinu man ang may pakana sa mga ito ( nagplano ) may KARMA o naghihintay ang mga Officers ng AFP or PNP or NAVY na kamaganak o kakampi ni CUdia… he he ingat din sila…
Victin Luz says
Correction @letlet …nobody can proved that Dr. Cortales lied especially with her certified statement .
leona says
No proof on that even from Cadet Cudia…someone ‘does not like him’ or is ‘envious’ of him.
What I believe is that the Code of Honor application in his case is misplaced. Maybe they took it against him so seriously for challenging the whole System rather than expecting him to obey and swallow it Hook Line & Sinker [so to say].
A Code of ..”On or” without the “H.”
Victin Luz says
Grammar Composition and interpretation … I sugest CPMers read the article of atty Rene Espina in the Manila Bulettin today March 8, 2014…CUDIA did not LIE …… an instruction by Dr. Costales for the 5 of them to wait for her so that she can give them their grades…for them ( 5 cadtes ) CRYSTAL CLEAR they were not yet DISMISSED….. their earlier class ends 15:00H ,,,if ever DR. COSTALES habits to dismissed the whole class say few minutes before 15;00H ,,officially their class ends 15:00H ,,, So Dr. Costales has every right by instructing them to wait and Cudia as a student he has also right to wait until:1500H ….. For the next immediate subject their Instructor cannot enforce that his or het class can be at the classroom at 15:00H all at the same TIME…any latter class must adjust 2-5 minutes will be reasonable…then the next class will also adjust and so on and so forth…. KLARONG KLARO they really wanted Cudia not to be the salutaturian or 3rd honorable mention ,,, hinanapan ng BUTAS at resulta expelled pa….KAWAWANG CUDIA…. Mag NPA kanalang General ka agad..
CUDIA never lied nor violated PMAs HONOR CODE…. If ever those cadets who recommended and approved for their ( 5 cadets ) demerits and touring , and LARGO were the one who VIOLATED the BULUK ” HONOR PMA CODE “..
Victin Luz says
Sa PMA pala kahit oras pa ng klase ng ( it ends at 15:00H ) isang Instructor at mag utus na maghintay kayo at sinunud mo naman at na late ka ng 2 minutes sa susunud na klase mo at pag explain nin ka ay dapat ay MAGSINUNGALING KA….. At ganito ang sasabihin mo …I was late for 2 minutes because i forced my instructor to released our grade…penalty mo ay DEMERITS and TOURISTA ka pa he he ( tatakabo ka ) ……. at pag sinabi mo ang katotohanan ,,,,EXPELLED KA sa PMA…..
O KAYA TUMAHIMIK KANALANG at tanggapin mo ang mga DEMERITs ,,para matupad lang ang bakuktot na HONOR CODE nila…. Kaya pala very HONEST ang karamihan ng mga graduate ng PMA….. MURDER dahil sa HONOR CODE nila , hinding hindi nila magagawa …maka dyos sila …ang galing ng KANILANG HONOR CODE…. hinahangaan sa buung MUNDO…. He he mga PMAer,,, sa tinagal tagal na ginawa ang MILITARY 5th STOREY blng. Ea MEISCHIEF REEFs noong panahon ni RAMOS pa at hindi pa handang lumusub ang sundalo ng TSINA sa atin sa lugar na iyon,,,DAHIL sa HONOR CODE ninyo , ang ginawa nyo ay isadsad ang buluk nating BARKO…BAKIT…hindi man lang kayo nagpatayo ng kahit KUBETA doon sa AYUNGIN SHOAL. na parehas na nasa 220 miles EEZ ng Pilipinas…. ang dami ninyong pinabaon sa mga General ninyo nagpakamatay ang isa sa inyo…ngayong lang kayo magdadala ng construction materials sa AYUNGIN. SHOAL ,, tatadtarin kayo ng bala ang mga intsik at ngayon dapat ay ilabas nyo ang HONOR CODE ng PMA ninyo…
moonie says
victin, your statement at 95 “kawawang cudia . . . mag NPA ka na lang general ka kaagad.” I think you’re being too optimistic. what if NPA dont want cudia and will reject him as well? like any organizaton, NPA have their own code of honor.
sykes says
victin, may bell na tumutunog dun to indicate that the class has ended. hindi arbitrary at nasa teacher ang desisyun kung tapos na ang klase o hindi. rason ni cudia na dismiss sila ng late, kung totoo yan, dapat buong klase eh na late for the next class. pero lima lang sa kanila ang na-late dahil lumapit sila sa teacher nila to inquire about their grades. sa lima, si cudia lang ang ibinaling ang buong sisi sa teacher. hindi nya inamin na may kasalanan din sya kung bakit sya na late. dun sya nagsinungaling.
dapat mas istrikto ang standards para sa kanila dahil pag pinalusot mo ang ganyang pagiging late o pagsisinungaling aba mahirap na kung dalhin yan mga ugali sa mga conflict areas. buhay ang nakasalalay ng mga kapwa sundalo at mga sibilyan sa linya ng kanilang trabaho. dapat mas strict ang enforcement ng rules sa kanila dahil pag hindi baka mas maraming potential ligot o garcia ang makalusot sa PMA.
moonie says
sykes, now that we know cudia did not graduate, I hope he has learned his lessons.
if he is such a good man, no longer a child under 18yrs and subject to his own caprices and whims, he will not be without a job for long. maybe the moment he left the premise of PMA and goes home, he’ll get himself numerous job offers with employers lining before his doorstep, eager to offer him jobs that pay good money. he might even get straight to the top too, be made immediately director of sekyu firms. maybe even become a peacekeeper guarding the world’s troubled spots.
Victin Luz says
@sykes…Read between the lines..and you can conclude CUDIA was not lying..He was only telling the TRUTH..only that , since the HC are not lawyers and HAD RAW experiences in life, arrived in a wrong conclusIon…The HCbecame parochial on their decision…..CLEARLY it was certified by Dr. Cortales that her class ended 15:00H ,,but earlier on her affidavit, she said CUDIA can consider that she dismissed the class a little bit late because she gave that instruction to wait……
” ENDED the CLASS ” in relation to ” DISMISSED the CLASS a little bit late ” was of DIFFERENT MOMENT ( time ) …… Dr. Costales had ENDED the class at 15:00H but she did not yet dismissed the class …but @sykes in your analysis the bell rang so the CLASS ENDED and at the same time dismissed the whole class BUT not for the 5 cadets ,,if ever HER instruction to wait RECALLED the earlier dismissal of the 5 cadets…Where is LYING on CUDIA ?
@moonie…. CUDIA did not march on their graduation rites but to tell us CUDIA did not GRADUATE parang mali ata ang interpretation mo sa mga nangyayari… palagay ko wala pang FINALITY ang lahat…review all the facst [email protected]
Victin Luz says
Wag na nating talakayin ang HONOR CODE nila…dahil it was CLEAR than in order to be CONVICTED of LYING ( you LIED ) unanimous vote is needed …very clear HC did not acquired that UNANIMOUS VOTE….
FACTs was the HC wanted CUDIA to lie and disregards his demerits and touring hours… BASTA IYAN ang DECISION NAMIN IYAN NA IYAN …. IMMATURITY on the PART of whoever among the members of the HC pressured LARGO to changed his vote as well as LARGO…
Victin Luz says
@sykes … I will give you some computations to enlighten you that the HC decided against CUDIA not in accordance to PMAs cadet HONOR CODE ” PRIDE lang ang pinairal nila.
1.) 2 minutes late = 11 demerits and 13 touring hrs..
2.) 1 minute late = 5.5 demerits and 6.5 touring hrs.
3.) 1 second late = 0.0912 demerits and 0.11 touring hr.
PMA cadets must be precise/alert oh their movements because a FRACTION of a SECOND in a real BATTLE …nakalabit na ang gatilyo ng baril , pumutuk na at pwede kanang matamaan at mamatay …so as NEVER LIE .. diba…ngayon..
When did the instructor of the 2nd or immediate subject conducted his class? We can not argue on this TIME because 2 minutes late si CUDIA diba so naturally 15:00H nagsimula na sya sa klase nya…… HOW FAR is the classroom of Dr. Costales from their next CLASS ,,,kahit malapit lang HE/SHE cannot start or impossible to start the class with ALL of CUDIAs classmate ( except them ..5 cadets late nga sila ) seated and inside the classroom already….. SUKATIN NATIN ang PINTUAN nila sa PMA ,,,kahit 30 lang sila sa class nila ..HINDI SILA PWEDING MAGSABAYSABAY na PUMASOK sa PINTUAN and into the classroom…..so some must be late also if this will be one THEORY…..
2nd THEORY …most like this happened… The instructor waited for all of them to be seated and inside the classroom….WHEN DID HE REALLY START the CLASS THEN? nakpaghintay sya kung ganoon ng ilang segundo or minuto , bakit naman 2 minutes ang computation nila? DAPAT hindi sya naghintay ,,, kahit nasa pintuan pa ang iba naglecture na sya at ang nasa pintuan pa at ang nasa labas pa ng pintuan ( even so near the door ) punish with demerits na din…. FRACTION of a SECOND…LYING …pwedi ka nang mabaril at mapatay ng kalaban…
Rene-Ipil says
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Actually the bell rang at 1445H that signaled the time for dismissal. The cadets had 15 minutes to submit papers, get out of the class room, join class accounting and formation, and march or proceed and enter the next classroom at 1500H.
So as not to be late in the next class, the cadets must complete all the above acts plus extra activities, if any. This brings us back to the issue of whether Cudia had a valid excuse for being late. If none, did he tell the truth of the matter? Was there due process in ferreting the truth out? If yes, was the punishment fair? If no due process or in doubt, a reinvestigation would be in order which PNoy exactly did.
Victin Luz says
[email protected]…15:00H so Dr, Cortales has every right to order instruct the 5 of them to wait until 15:00H ( officila end of her class was 15:00H ) ( we are talking here of the 5 cadets ) …With regards to the 5 they were dismised a little bit late than the usual dismissal time of 14:45H by Dr. Cortales as certified by HER…WHERE then was CUDIA LYING in his statement?
Victin Luz says
Another one SHE certified that her class ended at 15:00H ,,,to what was this TIME she was talking about, no question to the 5 cadets…isn’t it @sir….SO VERY CLEAR THEY ( 5 cadets ) were dismissed a little bit late..Cudia was noy lying,,, HC wanted CUDIA to lie….to accept the demerits which is wrong @SIR..
Victin Luz says
WHO LIED THEN it was DR. CORTALES?
If ever that statement of CUDIA was not acceptanle to the HC ( dahil ang akala nila ay tama sila ) the original penalty of late must have STAYED and demerits and tour hrs only…..LYING malayo …ang linaw @ sir RENE labanan ng ranking ang nagyari , kahit hindi nila sabihin lahat sa atin… CLASS ranking in fighting ang nangyari..
Victin Luz says
GANITO @SIR RENE..if the excuse of CUDIA is not VALID to the next INSTRUCTOR and his other classmates and the HONOR COMMITTEE ,,,WELL , NOBODY CAN CONTEST that CUDIA NEVER LIED…..
ang pinag uusapan natin dito ay LYING diba… Ang LINAW CUDIA NEVER LIED… authinticated lahat ang evidence ni CUDIA samantalang ang HC pride lang nila ang umiral @sir….maling ineyrpretasyon and can not be supported by any evidence ( dito sa particular case sir ha )
Victin Luz says
Ano ang dapat palang statement ni CUDIA? hindi naman pweding sabihin nya na sadyang nagpaiwan sila kahit ayaw ni DR. CORTALES kasi hinintay pa namin ang grade namin sa kanya kaya na LATE AKO/kami……ito ang ang siguradong PAGSISINUNGALING.
Victin Luz says
Ito pa @sir RENE ha… Please ananlyze carefully….i quote …
DR. COSTALES said …..And with concern to OR 432 class ,I can say it ended on time ( 15:00 ) . SGD MCOSTALES w/attached certification…
CLEAR again the class ended at 15:00H but dismissed the class earlier but not to the 5 cadets…THEY were dismissed a little bit late than the usual time of DR. Costales time of dissmissal of 14:45 …. SAAN ang LYING dito ni CUDIA?
If ever that demerits and tour hrs STAYED because late is late ,,but to CONCLUDE CUDIA was LYING…. This is the REAL LIE….sila ang nagsisinungaling.
Victin Luz says
SAD to SAY,,,the Honor Committee contoverted everything without REASONABLE BASIS in arriving that CUDIA LIED,,,, They were the one lying and it is safe to say,those graduating members of Honor Committee should have not been allowed to garaduate the other day….
Well it is only in the Philippines…… Kung kadete palang sila ay nagsisnungaling na …..so expect the principal witness of the Barameda Case dis apperance under the hand of Generals or officers who graduated from PMA, molded with Honor Code they had during their cadets days will never re surface and the FAULT is.. the NATURE …nawala e malinis kami he he…only in the Philippines…..
Pinay710 says
@sir victin luz, ang galing galing mo maganalayze at magpaliwanag, detalyado, malinaw kahit sa tulad ko na mabagal na sumunod sa pagdedetalye mo maliwanag sa sikat ng araw. Dami ko natutunan sa inyong lahat. Para akong bumabalik sa law 101 hanggang law 105 hehehhe
Pagnagka kaso ako puede ba kitang kunin bilang abogafo ko? Pero pro bono ( isa ito sa natutunan ko legal na termino) libre wala bayad dahil sigurado ko HINDI KO KAYA ANG FEE MO.hehehe
Rene-Ipil says
Victin, ang gusto kong linawin lamang ay yung dismissal time. Pag ring ng 1445H ay dismissed na ang class. I think walang rights si Dr. Costales na abalahn ang mga kadete. Next class starts at 1500H at mayroon pang dapat gawin ang mga kadete bago 1500H. Di tulad sa civilian schools na paglabas ng classroom ay deretso sa kabilang classroom. Kaya ang diskusyon ay dapat akma dito.
Hindi maaaring mangyari na the class ended at 1500H. Puwera na lang kung si Dr. Costales ay binigyan ng special permit ng Dean of Academic Program na idismiss na late ang class. Costales’ class ended at 1445H and the next class started at 1500H. Impossible na mag start yung next class nang 1500H kung si Costales ay dinismiss ang class nya nang 1500H din. Hindi puede na i-short cut yung mga seremonyas like formation, accounting and marching. Napakaimportante ang accounting ng mga kadete kasi maaaring may nag-aAWOL na kadete or namatay sa hazing or napunta sa hospital. Kaya meron 15 minutes allowance.
Siguro dapat tanungin si Costales kung bakit nya sinabi na the class ended on time at 1500H kasi taliwas ito sa regulation and practice.
Victin Luz says
AGRE sir @rene…kung walang karapatan si Dr. Cortales na abalahin ang next class that will begin also on 15:00H ,,,it is safe to say KUNG MALI o TAMA ang ginawa ni Cortales ,,100% CUDIA did tell the TRUTH, it was Dr. Cortales late dissmissal of the 5 cadets whenshe instructed them to wait…. SAAN ang LYING doon @Sir Rene…..Telling the TRUTH ba is LYING ?
Ito pa @sir ha…i quoted again……
” I agree and consider that because Cadet Cudia is under my instruction to wait , and the other cadets still have business with me , it is REASONABLE enough for him to say that ” Our Class was dismissed a bit late ”
Dr. Cortales word ” REASONABLE ENOUGH ” shows that it was not the fault of CUDIA for being late on his immediate class…CORTALES in short ,reminded the PMA HC that CUDIA’s LATE in class was not hos fault ,,NAURALLY CUDIA did not LIE…
If on the opinion/conclusion of the Honorable Committee CUDIA statement ” Our class was dismissed a little bit late and i came directly from the fourth period class …..and further explained that Dr. Monica Costales instructed him and 4 other cadet classmates to wait for her so that she can give them their grades ……wag tayong lalayo sa 15:00H official end of the class schedule ha…. Because LATE is LATE doon sa HONOR CODE nila so hindi nila tinaggap na REASONABLE ang defense ni CUDIA …..PERO [email protected] …. hindi pagsisinungaling ang sinabi ni CUDIA ….they HC arrived to wrong conclusion ( CUDIA LIED ) o pinabigat nila ang kasalanan ni CUDIA na LYING para matanggal sa PMA….UNREASONABLE sa HC at LYING…….dapat UNREASONABLE or UNACCEPTABLE sa HC but NO LYING by CUDIA….. Demerits more tour hrs more…. Pinagkaisahan sya ,,,sa CADET RANKING muna nagtapos sa EXPELLED….MALI …..ang nagsisinungaling ay ang HC..
Victin Luz says
@PNAY 710…hindi ako lawyer he he Civil Engineer ako po, retired government employee but now for an extra income Teaching engineering subject in a Local College here in our place he he…thanks ha he he naawa lang ako sa BATA… In fighting iyan sa ranking ranking nila noong graduation for sure…. Parang fraternity napagkaisahan sya at ginamit mga ang buluk na systema HONOR CODE ng PMA..he he..
Rene-Ipil says
Victin, sa ayaw man o gusto ni Costales ay tapos na ang class at 1445H. Kaya kung totoo na sinabi ni Costales na tinapos nya yung klase at 1500H, ito ay isang LIE. Kung ginamit ni Cudia ang LIE na ito wittingly or unwittingly, ay malalaman sa isang fair investigation. Ang tanong: Fair ba yung investigation at trial sa honor committee? ABANGAN!!! So, wait ka lang.
Victin Luz says
[email protected] Rene , let us wait nalang talaga po…thanks
sykes says
same difference victin. bottomline yung ibang kaklase nila pumasok on time for the next class. 2.45pm ang first bell to indicate the class ended. 3pm ang next class. so may 15mins of “free time” sila. BAWAL ma-late sa class yan ang rule sa PMA. cudia is capable of making his own decision. pwede namang sabihin nya sa teacher na “ma’am, sori po pero ma-la-late na ako for my next class kaya next time ko na lang po kukunin ang grades ko” . he did not do that. and the thing is, the other cadets admitted they were partly to blame for being late. si cudia ang bukod tanging ibinuntong ang buong sisi sa teacher na parang wala syang choice but to follow her order even though it would go against the PMA rule of never being late for class.
he was late so he was punished with touring and demerits pero prinotest nya yun kahit totoong na late sya at sinisi nya ang teacher nya para makalusot. now, i don’t want that kind of soldier defending the country who will lay all the blame on someone else even though obvious naman na may kasalanan din sya.
isa pa, it was cudia and the other cadets who approached the teacher but the way cudia’s sister told it, it was the teacher who started the whole interaction.
Final Cut says
WOULDA, SHOULDA, CUDIA….
baycas says
The Honor Cud, yah?
leona says
@Victin…
… are you saying Cadet Cudia was framed up? Who then led this and with whom was this done?
… will the proof be acquired? …or pooff?
Victin Luz says
CPMers…….kasama na daw si ex senator Angara sa PDAF – NAPOLES scam ..a ghost PROJECT also…..sana ilabas na lahat ng COA ang audit Findings nila …marami pa siguro ang kasama dyan sa mga Senador at Congressman..
Kalahari says
Jinggoy said selective justice is no justice at all.
The COA, as mandated by the Constitution to audit and examine all accounts of the government – and if they discovered some irregularities such as in its bombshell August 16, 2013 special audit report on PDAF, is duty-bound to enlist the assistance of the solicitor general, etc. to institute legal proceedings to recover all expenditures found to be irregular, excessive, unnecessary, extravagant, or UNCONSCIONABLE uses of government funds and properties.
The COA has all the documentary evidence on billions of PDAF allocations by the 180 plus legislators who knowingly endorsed its implementation to faked NGOs, and therefore ghost projects, but only a handful of prominent opposition senators and representatives, etc, have been charged by the DOJ. Why rely on whistle blowers with accompanying tv exposure when the documentary evidence may be sufficient enough to prove one’s guilt.
The COA and not the DOJ should lead in instituting legal proceedings to recover what have been lost by the government from the unconscionable legislators pursuant to Sec. 133 of PD 1445 (Auditing Code of the Phils), be they from the opposition or administration legislators. The Lady Justice seems not to be fully blindfolded.
Victin Luz says
Actuallly once a CSB ( cash settlement balance )was issued to an employee’s concerned , you’ve got 90 days to settle such defficiency.. ..Maybe a COA examiners in this blog might educate us how many motion of extension of time to settle a CSB or what will be the period of extension to settle CSB.. And when will evidences at their hands RIPE for FILING to the Court or Ombudsman or Prosecutors Office….Our lawyers in this BLOG will also educate us with your concern….. BAKIT nga BA KAILANGAN DALHIN pa sa SENADO bago mag FILE sa KORTE…. SIRs.. @ atty Rene @ atty LEONA….. kahit maiksi lang po na explanation ,,,please share to us naman…
leona says
I am surprised too to read that ‘it has to be brought to the Senate’ before filing. There is no law requiring it.
@Victin…COA can file the case(s) it either directly with the Ombudsman, a safer course as the DOJ must be subjected to politics etc. in its actions.
But it seems, COA as an independent agency is not that independent if it courses it’s findings etc. with DOJ, a delay and duplication of work is rather incurred. COA has its legal dept., so their lawyers assuming that they can work on their own the investigations and gathering of proofs, go directly to the Ombudsman Office for proper preliminary investigations.
This is as short as I can state it.
Victin Luz says
Kung ganoon pala , even the local COA can file a case against the Mayor, Governor and etc… Re assignment for every COA auditor dapat to other Provinces to avoid conspiracy kung ganoon, bihira kasi ang local COA especiaallly sa mga malalayong municipalities and provinces na kinakasuhan nila ang kanilang local ooficilas … Kung mayroon man pinapatay ang mga COA na nagsusumbung ,like in ABRA and ILOCOS SUR…
leona says
@Victin…you could be right.
Many should not be surprised of what I blogged that filing directly with the Ombudsman can be done…
…why the late Atty. Frank Chavez was filing directly with the Ombudsman vs culprits! Other private parties did do this action too!
So? What’s stopping COA from going directly to the Ombudsman Office? It’s a bigger and more ‘capable’ well-equipped body that anybody else in the private sector.
Slanted politics?
jorge bernas says
@ Victin Luz,
Tama ka Victin Luz, Ano naman laban nang local COA personnel sa mayor, gobernor etc. dahil sa totoo lang ay ginagawa lang yata silang utos utosan? Ang dating chief justice nga noon ginawa lang taga Payong ni Imelda at Tingnan natin nangyari noon ang daming namatay na taga COA personnel detailed sa LGU Offices?
vander anievas says
sa palagay ko, sa Pnas, buhay ang lady justice.
may piring nga pero nakakarinig.
dinig ang bulong…
leona says
@vander…maybe ‘re-cast’ that statue of lady justice …with big bulging eyes, holding a fly-swat and a bag of money instead! It appears that’s how ‘justice’ is unjusticiously happening. A symbol of shame.
Kalahari says
The once fearsome watchdog of government funds is gone – and seems to be too politicized earning a new tag – the lapdog of the administration – doing whatever the master dictates.
leona says
@kala…let’s hope what ‘seems’ does not prove to be true in the days to come!
…fearsome, fearout or fearIN Watchdog! No sacred culprits…beefy ’em up thru the grinder!
vander anievas says
hahaha. baka kandila na rin yang Lady Justice na [email protected] leona. lol…
jorge bernas says
@ Victin LUz,
Tama ka, Kasama na mga kaalyado ni Pnoy sa inakusahan tungkol sa PDAF Scam at kahit noon pa man at dahil dito ay nagresign na nga sa Buerau of Custom chief Ruffy Biazon kaya ang iba diyan huwag naman kapit TUKO sa puwesto, At ngayon ay wala nang idadahilan mga inakusahan na sini single out kayo dahil Opposition kayo kaya Tanda, Pogi at Sexy…Harapin ninyo kaso ninyo at huwag lumihis sa tunay na tanong?
Martial Bonifacio says
Cudia not allowed to join PMA graduation march
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/586129/cudia-not-allowed-to-join-pma-graduation-march
“It would have been a cordial meeting if not for Cudia’s sister who kept on interjecting while the President spoke to the ex-cadet. “I’m not talking to you,” an irritated Mr. Aquino told Anavee in Filipino, the source said.”
It all started when a selfish cadet was so grade conscious that led him to be late to his next class. Then her sister used social media to gain sympathy for his brothers selfish action. Now his case reached the President, DND Secretary and Chief of Staff of AFP to review his case.
Their attention could have been used for other more important matters like internal and external territorial defense, remmeber 03/16/2014 the Philippines will attempt to send again civilian ships to deliver food and water to our brave soldiers in Ayungin shoal and the recent NPA attacks in Mindanao (police station and AFP detachment).
Yet Cadet Cudia’s selfishness took over and needs the Presidents attention against the needs of the soldiers in Ayungin. This is one of the reasons why i cannot wrap my head around why Cadet Cudia get so much attention and support. He could have easily get his grades later after all his class is finished. He could have graduated if he never made a excuse unlike his 2 other mistah’s who were also late.
Her sister asked for attention, it was given, then she asked for the Presidents attention then she got it and now she squandered it.
Victin Luz says
@martiial ,,,It can not be countenance why compare Cudia’s case to the external defense of Ayungin Shoal neither the attack of PNP AFP in Mindanao by NPA… Tell us first the history of that Ayungin Shoal’s anchored delapidated Navy Ship and WHY was it done… HE was not selfish in asking the intercision of PNOY , all he want’s is a DUE PROCESS and PNOY gave it to HIM whereas it should be given by the Honor Committe and the PMA AFP first…
Martial Bonifacio says
BRP Sierra Madre was intentionally ran aground in Ayungin to protect it from being occupied by the Chinese like in Mischief Reef.
What i was trying to say is that “dagdag pa yung pansariling problema ni Cadet Cudia” sa iisipin ng Pangulo. Kaya ko ikinumpara yung 7 AFP sundalo na nasa Ayungin Shoal at problema ni Cadet Cudia ay upang magbigay ng isang halimbawa kung saan yung maliit na bagay ay nabibigyan ng napakalaking attention ng media na kailangan pang umabot sa Pangulo at SC.
Pansinin mo na lang lahat ng major media ni walang balita kung nakapag deliver ba ng food and water sa mga sundalo sa Ayungin yung civilian ships kahapon.
Didn’t the Honor Committee, PMA, AFP gave Cadet Cudia his due process? He was found guilty then he appealed the decision of the HC. He did not like the decision so they filed a case with PAO and step up the ante that reached the President’s desk plus the pending Supreme Court decision even though it is already moot.
Why i use the term selfish? Read my reply (ironically) to you at 69.1.1 napakaganda ng explanation ni Sir Cabunzky sa kanyang blog para sa mga hindi pumasok sa PMA o sa mga katulad ko na ordinaryong sibilyan.
Also “Cudia set to leave PMA grounds” -Rappler
baycas says
Selfish motives over national interest…
Tumpak!
CDT 1CL Cudia used his own time, together with 3 or so others, rather than perform his duty to march to the next class on time. Majority of his classmates reported on time. Majority of his classmates who stayed using their own time admitted their faults.
Isang natatanging kadete ang nagpapapalusot at kung sinu-sino ang sinasangkalan sa pansariling kapakanan. To top it all, nagpasaklolo pa sa ‘social media’ at ibig gawing ‘Padrino’ si PNoy…
Victin Luz says
During the appeal , they were waiting of the evidence to be presented by CUDIA , wherein one ( 1 ) of the member of the HC who voted for conviction was only pressured ,,,,instead CUDIA asked for an EXTENSION of TIME to present the same …..instead the HC did not grant the extention and proceeded and garnered a unanimous vote and the conviction……Saan a due process doon @Martial…. MOTIONs of many kinds are our basic rights and that was embodiied in our Constitution …..
basahin mo ang report ni NIKKO ….
” the system might need to be updated as times have changed ” PNOY said
” during our time there was no IHR LAW then………….. And a reforms in the honor system “”. GAZMIN said.
” this spirit gives the cadets integrity to do the right thing even though no one is looking , as well as to develop them to become TRUSTWORTHY LEADERS ” by NIKKO/ LT. COL. Ramon Zagala…” DEVELOP……crazy tell it to the MARINEs not US…
DEVELOP……….are they grduates of PMA develop to be…..? % percentage wise how many of them were developed?
From PNOY as wriitten by NIKKO………
” The system might need to be updated as times have changed ” PNOY said
” during our time there is no
Victin Luz says
Kasangkapan ang PMA AFP kaya umabot kay PNOY….had they given CUDIA an affordable time to present evidence and argue his case ( DUE PROCESS ) ,, then after that time , convicted CUDIA….PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS should have been afforded to CUDIA…. Inapora nila ang pagbibigay ng sentensya noon na malayo pa naman ang graduation @martial…. mayroong BIAS sa nangyari…
Victin Luz says
asking for a DUE PROCESS is not SELFISHNESS It is our paramount rghts under our Constitution….
Victin Luz says
that HONOR CODE system of the PMA might be UNCONSTITUTIONAL…. remember EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE is not also selective ( military or civilian school ) .
Lahat naman ng SCHOOLs ay dapat EXPELLED a student who are find out to be cheating by means of LYING ( Like CUDIA’s )BUT …after DUE PROCESS @martial… PMA’s HONOR SYSTEM can not be an excemption to the said DUE PROCESS and EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE of our CCC…
Martial Bonifacio says
I doubt that his case will change direction though since he violated the same due process he was asking for by telling it to her sister (non-PMAer). Sister goes out in public through social media and use the sympathy card.
If he only appealed discreetly without telling her sister then it would not have been blown out of proportion. Now even the institution is being attacked, ridiculed through social media due to some bad rotten apples that have graduated in PMA to compare Cudia’s case as a small matter/issue meted with a heavy handed punishment of expulsion.
If Cudia was to be reinstated in PMA, what does it mean to his 2 fellow cadets that were also late due to being grade conscious with cudia? That the explanation they gave is a lie? That they were not given the same due process as him?
You can compare Cudia’s case to another PMA of siklab diwa class of 2014 though she took a different path. The 1st female class goat dean’s lister was supposed to graduate 28th place according to news but due to demerits she was pulled all the way down to 222nd or last place.She never made excuses and just accepted the punishment & demerits. ( Source: This time, PMA goat is a female -Inquirer )
Also kanino ba nanggaling ang impormasyon na dapat Salutatorian si cadet Cudia? Diba ang impormasyong ito ay nanggaling sa kapatid niya na si Anavee?
Victin Luz says
@martial…ang pagtakbo nya sa kanyang kapatid ng HELP ME ay hindi violation ng DUE PROCESS ,,,kaya nga ginawa nya iyon ay for that EARLY rendetion of decision by the PMAs Honor Committe , without granting an extension of time Cudias was asking to present an evidence that one member of the Committee was only pressured to convict him….MOTION of EXTENSION of time that was not granted ..iyan ang VIOLATION of DUE PROCESs and the EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE sa ating COnstitition….. wala na syang mapuntahan and for CUDIA such penalty rendered FINAL by PMA witouht DUE PROCESS ..kaya tumakbo na sya sa kanyang kapatid…..kung hindi nya ginawa iyon di sana hondi IBINIGAY ni PNOY sa kanya that DUE PROCESS….. Ibinigay na ni PNOY diba that EXTENSION of TIME ( DUE PROCESS na iyon ) ….na ito ay pewde namang sanang ibigay ng PMA AFP kung ginusto nila noon bago nakarating sa PANGULO..
Ngayon at nabigyan na sya ng DUE PROCESS ( extension of time ) to cotrovert thAT HC , PMA decision,,,,if proven that the unanimous votes garnered prior to conviction ay walang PRESSURE sa mga members ng HC ,,,ay dapat ay taggapin na ni CUDIA at palagay ko tatanggapin nya ito DAHIL sa ang ninanais nyang DUE PROCESS ( extension of time ) ay naibigay na PNOY sa kanya…
Iyan sinasabi mo na isang KADETE ni tinaggap ang kanyang kaparosahan ay sa kanyang pananaw DAHIL she was able to GRADUATE ,,she concluded that there was NO DUE PROCESS violated on her rights….WRONG COMPARIDON ang situation nilang dalawa @martial kung DUE PROCESS ang pinaguusapan …kung parehas sana sila nanghingi ng EXTENSION of TIME ang isa ay binigyan ang isa ay hindi bago nag decide ang HC,,, favorable o hindi …DUE PROCESS is not afforded to the one who was not given such extension…
IBINIGAY ni PNOY @Martial….
Victin Luz says
For the 2 cadets who accepted their faith and was able to graduate because they did not lie,, of course ,, CUDIs reinstatement at PMA or none reinstatement the two cadet NEVER TOLD a LIE ..given iyan…their explanation were not LIES @martial….kaya lang mga uulitin ko sa iyo para maintindihan mo ha…in relation sa sinabi ni PNOY at GAZMIN trhu NIKKO …he he ikaw ang nag post nito..
” the system might need to be updated as times have change ” PNOY said.
” during our time there wad no IHR LAW ………reforms in the honor system ” GAZMIN said
PNOY and GAZMIN were both reffering to the PMA cadets HONOR SYSTEM……what was inside the Honor Sytem @martial ….Lying is cheating but to prove a cadet was lying a UNANINOUS VOTE must be taken to all of the HC….. but nowhere in that CODE kahit hindi nila ipakita sa atin ang laman @martial…nowhere in our system/CONSTITUTION that along the way in garnerring that unanimous vote , we can VIOLATE DUE PROCESS and EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE in any investigation…… otherwise any violation will make an ORDER INVALID or VOID…basic iyan ,sa Democratic/Republican form of Government @martial………..
You have to be afforded every possible means and reasonable TIME to present evidence and contorvert charges against you….hindi pweding sabihin nila na ganyan kami sa [email protected]…otherwise UNCONSTITUTIONAL ang Honor Code nila…
Aywan ko parang narinig ko ito kay atty @LEONA …. FRUITs of POISONOUS TREE will invalidate a verdict rendered……
[email protected] ,,can we consider this as a FRUIT of POISONOUS TREE….if due process will not be afforded to an accused in any hearing?
leona says
If there is a granted investigation on Cadet’s Cudia’s case, then the presumption [under the law or Honor Code System] is he is still presumed innocent…right?
So, why was he not allowed to graduate without prejudice to his commissionship being recalled if later and finally found to have been proven as guilty for the offense. As I mentioned earlier here below, the punishement is ahead of the investigation…the cart/carromata is ahead of the horse/carabao.
Baliktad na ang Honor System on this…how the authorities are grappling with the situation at hand…appears so novel in the errors resulting.
Cadet Cudia…with the President’s order to AFP to investigate, the cadet should have been allowed to march for graduation….without prejudice etc.
Victin Luz says
I agree @Leona…dapat pina graduate na, wiyhout prejudice….. CHED must rationalize the curriculum of the PMA …Qualifications of their instructors must also be the same with regular universities and colleges of the Government…..I understand instructor’s at PMA can teach even without their Masteral Degree or minimum years of experience in teaching…
leona says
@Victin…No…is my answer…fruit of a poisonous tree principle is on another evidential matter…
…not directly always to denial of due process’ in Cadet Cudia’s case.
…if proof, for example, was done to by force, intimidation or threats on Cadet Cudia’s admission of ‘lying’ or securing his written admission to that effect without a search warrant or his consent, that proof is inadmissible for being fruit of a poisonous tree doctrine. Any evidence secured by authorities etc. against an accused or respondent must be legal evidence for admissibility purposes [in a court of law or otherwise] to run counter to this last part, surely will tantamount to [now] a denial of due process of law. That is my humble answer to your question. Hope I got the right query you asked.
Victin Luz says
Thanks @leona.. Naku ang dami natiing natotonan dito sa Blog… worth to be being here CPMErss… after sharing views with each other and UNITED together in a one rightful VIEW for a RIGHTFUL candiadate next 2016 x multiplied 10 or more to our friends,, it will tell the difference ….so lets go now with DUTERTE for president kaya? He he
drill down says
are you also in favor of allowing, for example, the senators accused of pdaf plunder to continue as senators until the day they are convicted?
Victin Luz says
@drilldown,,, UNITED to a RIGHTFUL CANDIDATE for PRESIDENT and VICE P…… even if ( PDAF scam members ) they escape prosecution and conviction ….they are not already a RIGHTEOUS CANDIDATE …. then they can not be our RIGHTFUL CANDIDATE…..madami naman sila na pagpipilian @drilldown….of course SUBTRACTION tayo diba….LENI,GRACE, CAYETANOs, ROXAS, ESCUDERO, GIBO TEODORO,DUTERTE, GEN. CACDAC , CARPIO-MORALES, GORDON, TRILLANES, BAM AQUINO, AQUINO SISTERs, PANGILINAN, sino pa, maglagay kapa @drilldown,,,tapos uuliratin natin ,kalkalin natin mga o kung may mga BAHO…then subtract diba
Victin Luz says
Sa continuance ng kanilang termino sa pagiging senador until convicted @drilldown…dapat lang DUE PROCESS, unitl proven guilty kasi ,,MAKAKAPAL ng MUKHA nila at LALONG LALO na sa mga SENADOREs na KASAMA at magaling magtago sa ngayon he he…. Un-Official lifestyle check lang naman sa kanila it can be proven na may UNEPLAINED WEALTH SILA do scratch na sila sa pagpipilian natin @ drilldown..at kahit na sana sa RE ELECTION,,out nasila sa RADAR natin he he diba.
leona says
Right you are @Victin…yes, like similarizing or comparing ‘iron’ and ‘wood.’ No commonality.
Victin Luz says
@LEONA ,,, if one of the PMA honor commitee admitted that he/she was pressured to render guilty verdict ba ,,is this considered FRUITS of POISONOUS TREE in arriving to an unanimous votes by the HC if ever?
leona says
Again…No is my answer. The matter of pressure on one of the panel of jurors to go for a guilty verdict here…is not evidence related to Cadet Cudia’s ‘lying’…
…that ‘pressure’ is different…but the same result follows…the verdict arrived at is null and void. To insists on that erroneous verdict of guilty by the PMA Board is now surely a denial of due process of law.
Due process of law is a very expansive and comprehensive principle…can cover ultimately to any set or sets of varying acts or events, etc. that violates the law…acceptable fairness and fair play in human judgments etc.
kalakala says
in my honest understanding, he was forced to the wall (alone). he knew/knows the truth what transpired. lalong pinalakas noong when it came to his knowledge about the 8-1 then 9-0 vote. while facing the wall alone he fought back by STANDING ON HIS PRINCIPLE. to fight for the right. this pave the way to…. ” the system might need to be updated as times have changed ” PNOY said ” during our time there was no IHR LAW then………….. And a reforms in the honor system “. GAZMIN said.
IMO, this issue turned out na dapat i tama tungo sa “DAANG MATUWID”.
i need to clarify this: so cudia will comply what the the Pres. told him as a civilian ba, kasi hindi naman sya naka graduate, against military persons ba?
leona says
History will show that in the trial of some of the Japanese Military Generals for crimes of murders etc., the members of the panel/judges were military officers…who knew that the final approving authority was Gen. Douglas MacArthur…would any of them render a verdict of not guilty?
…had any of them dared, assignment would have been in the Artic or Antartica regions, marching the seals and penguins at that!
leona says
@Kalakala…when the President ‘told’ Cdt Cudia to comply in re to his problem etc., that is a message, clear message that he is still a graduating Cadet and not ‘as a civilian.’ His case is not yet finished in short.
Many people did not ‘graduate’ but still one way or the other, fully finished the course even without getting ‘that Diploma’ instrument/paper from the learning Institution. I hope the Dept. Education [and Civil Service rules] are still giving this special privilege to some students etc.
Joe America says
@Victin, I appreciate that you are waging the good fight. It seems to me that the punishment does not fit the crime, and I believe honor ought to have a sense of proportion, and humanity – or compassion- to it. Especially if the situation is not “life and death”. I believe that is what the Human Rights Commission Chairwoman is arguing. Furthermore, school is for teaching and building careers, not destroying them. I find this particular honor process to be hard and spiteful and improperly housed in a school.
leona says
I agree @Joe. Many in the public also say the punishment is too excessive and harsh.
Irony is that after these cadets are graduates, and go to actual service for the country, the defects and horrors blinded the Honor Code. When this is the result, it only means the Honor System is not working at all. It will work with machine-cadets and not on living persons – as cadets. A false belief of that System I say. Until now the enforcers of the System do not get it…Rabusa, Ligot, Reyes, atbpa…
No general PMA grad has yet to get enrolled at the Muntinlupa Prison…I do not recall any. Death may over take them maybe instead.
Joe America says
Yes, and it is clear that many military graduates left their honor on the school steps on the way out of the graduation ceremony. So what’s with the capital punishment of a young man’s education? I think most agree, actually, except the military purists. I was in the military for almost three years and I learned it is not very pure.
leona says
@Joe…makes remember a bad experience in the military…our S4..in-charge of the ‘Mess-our-meals’ was milking the mess-money….graduating us reservists into veges losing all our teeth!
…that officer was a PMAer for all that…fond of going to the Sabungan…cockfights. Finally, after proven of his thievery…was relieved of duty.
It happens all the times…anywhere. But the point is putting the Code of Honor [specially now] extremely up there on the pedestal like it is a pure clean spirit from heaven when it is not.
Let’s hope something good be done to reform it…or abolish the whole thing as it does not work 100%. Do something 99.999% catching them when lying instead after the graduation.
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Joe America says
Sorry about your teeth. :) I agree with the need for reform.
Victin Luz says
SIRs @JOE,@[email protected]…..PLEASE read the Manila BULLETIN TODAY – March 8, 2014…..by..former Senator RENE ESPINA….. Hindi nagsinungaling ang CUDIA….napagisahan at napaginitan lang sya…… ” our class was dismissed ” for those against CUDIA more especially to the Chairman of HC…the whole class was their interpretation,,,,but for those in favor of Cudias acquittal and was even collaborated by Dr. Costales their instructor in Nglish in an affidavit ….Cudia/they/us can say part of the class was dismissed…..4 o 5 ang pinaiwan nya e….an instruction by Dr. Costales were official and related to the subject.
The first votation was 8 lied vs 1 not lying ….but Largo was placed in a chamber / pressured and that was it unaninmous vote…..hmmm…. gusto nila lang ilaglag si CUDIA….. Basahin nyong maige CPMers..
Victin Luz says
KAWAWANG CUDIA…he he BULUK na systema ng PMA kaya pala pag graduate nila from shoplifting to PLUNDER to kidnapping into DRUGs …BULUK …and i should say tama ang ginawa ni CORPUZ noon ramsack nya ang armory nila at naging NPA……anong klaseng CODE of HONOR iyan if ypu FORCED somebody to VOTE for Conviction in order to have a UNANIMOUS VOTE to EXPELL CUDIA……
Wag kanang bumalik Cudia..pumasok kana lang sa NPA kagaya ng General sa Bacolod na pinag initan ng politiko dahil sa palaisdaan ….mag NPA kanalang IHO….. GUNG GUNG pala talaga ang mga graduate ng PMA…. palakasan pala…
Victin Luz says
That HONOR SYSTEM was not PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED….
Rene-Ipil says
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Maybe the PMA can follow the system in the West Point in applying commensurate punishment to cadets for honor code violation. At West Point the Honor Code is linient to cadets in their first two years than than the cadets in their last two years. But what about a recidivist who is reported thrice in a year for honor code violation?
The PMA commandant of cadets confirmed to Winnie Monsod in “Bawal ang Pasaway” that Cudia was reported thrice for honor code violation in his fourth year. The first was dismissed outright during the preliminary investigation stage. The second reported violation reached the trial stage in the honor committee but Cudia was exonerated. The third report of violation finally got him. Arnold Clavio said in DZBB that the other violation of Cudia tried by the honor committee involved “cheating.” In local lingo “namumuro na si Cudia” before the third reported violation.
I am not sure if such situation hastened his conviction for violation of the honor code. In my book that should not affect his latest case unless he was considered already as “notoriously undesirable.” Such term was coined by Marcos at the onset of martial law to get rid of government employees who were repeatedly charged but somehow managed to get of the hook for one reason or another. The Filipino people applauded Marcos for such move. But that was at the earliest stage of martial law.
Rene-Ipil says
Correction: it’s “off the hook.”
Joe America says
Because he was exonerated on the first two incidents, they should not be a part of the recent case. They are irrelevant. So he was dismissed for one honor code violation under a forced unanimous consent. Crazy. He’s a kid, still learning. This is a school? It’s more like an asylum to me, and they let the inmates . . . the other kids . . . run it.
Lord of the Flies . . . that was on an island, too . . .
Victin Luz says
@joe…read between the line …and you can conclude that CUDIA was not LYING….He was telling the TRUTH only that , since the Honor Committee are not lawyers and HAD RAW experiences in life ,,, arrived in a wrong conclusion….the HC became parochial in their decision…it was certified by Dr. Costales that her class ended 15:00H …and earlier on her affidavit, she said CUDIA can consider that she dismissed the class a little bit late because she gave that instruction to wait…
” ENDED her class ” and ” DISMISSED the class a little bit late ” was of DIFFERENT TIME …your class might have ENDED at 15:00H , but you have not yet dismissed the class or at the same time dismissed the class BUT FOR THE FIVE CADETs ,,,her instruction to wait is a 100% conclussion they were not yet dismissed or the dismissal of the 5 cadets were recalled by her instruction to wait….. Where is LYING then for CUDIA…HE WAS TELLING the TRUTH….napakaisahan ang bata..
Victin Luz says
PNOY is a briliant and righteous person , so i think CUDIA will graduate on the same batch….
Joe America says
I’ve heard of mob frenzy, but I think the Honor Committee had ego frenzy and lost perspective. It is such a petty matter. And there are apparently no adults in the teaching ranks, either.
You may be right about President Aquino. He did the statesman’s job of making no one a loser by kicking it back to the military for review. Now they can change their minds themselves and not become a goat of the President’s decision to let Cudia graduate.
leona says
@Rene…Cudia cannot be ‘a recidivist’ from the facts you gave…:
…the 1st was ‘dismissed’ No offense committed. Innocent.
…2nd was ‘exonerated’. No offense committed. Innocent.
Now, the alleged 3rd should [as you say correctly] should not be concluded by the 1st and 2nd cases…as Cudia is clearly innocent. Under the law…those prior acts which were dismissed and got an exoneration are not to be held against the respondent Cudia.
Code of Honor System is not following civilian law supremacy! It is making a lot of errors and blunders at that. Reform it is the rule these days SIRS!
leona says
When persons are facing difficult situations, it is normal to be apprehensive, interruptive and imprudent. But these are unconscious acts. It is normal for the person, like the President, to say “I am not talking to you!”
Normal but this situation is not normal…’abnormal,’ with the impending fear from beyond – not being able to save or get what is wanted. It’s all moot now since the President gave the family and the Cadet his attention, etc.
Back to the Honor System at the PMA Institution. So many aspects to be looked into.
The news article PDI quotes Sec. Gazmin: the honor system includes the questions:
“Did I intend to deceive?” and “Did I intend to take undue advantage?”
What is wrong with these questions? There’s something not right. If a PMA panel of Jurors are ‘holding’ these questions before an erring Cadet, the questions are already ‘ahead’ to establishing the facts of the acts in issue. In short, it shows the panel of Jurors have already established the facts before what the erring Cadet can say.
Since a panel of Jurors is set up for some hearing, formal or summary, for the purpose, it’s like an ‘investigation,’ ‘ prosecution,’ and ‘conviction,’ all rolled into one stage without the formal separate phases/stages for each. Time to study indeed this System. It shows, my opinion, that due process is not present during all this one rolled-into-one proceeding.
There is obviously a ‘hurried way’ of proceeding in this kind of System. What can a Cadet who erred on something against the Honor System, do to prepare for his defense…PREPARE to defend himself/herself before the panel? Time constraint is too short for such preparation…for an offense that may result in a dismissal from the Academy like Cadet Cudia’s case.
‘You deceived the Honor System’ is the same as asking “Did you intend to deceive?”
‘You took undue advantage” is also the same as “Did I intend to take undue advantage?”
In short, the carromata/cart is ahead of the horse/carabao! [an analogy of things and events]
Lt. Col. Ramon Zagala, in this published news article said: “Basically,” he means the Code of Honor System, “the cadet must possess desirable values on: atmosphere of trust, sincerity and truthfulness.”
To correlate these values in the System’s manner of finding those values for erring Cadets, does it provide enough fair or due process enough time for a defense?
Is there any word or words in the Honor System that says: Every Cadet shall be granted all available defenses that can be mustered by him/her acceptable to norms of Due Process under the law”? I don’t know if there is such in the System.
Never should a Cadet be made to ‘memorize’ a long list of prohibited acts! Maybe this is one reason it does not get into their heads! To ‘memorize’ is parrot-like task without understanding the whole things.
‘Memorizing’ is not ‘teaching.’ For a Cadet to do this memorization without grasping the core of what it is, may not instill and inculcate what is should be for his/her own guidance and protection in the Academy.
Time to study indeed the System for reforms. I am surprised also [if I am right to say this] why graduating from this Academy a Cadet is only with a diploma of B.S – Bachelor of Science…what science? Commerce graduates gets B.S.C. Other courses with diploma status always have. Why is that? Why not B.S.M – Bachelor of Science in Military? DEPED what say?
Time to upgrade a the cadets’ status in the PMA indeed upon graduation. Time to honor also a cadet’s Four (4) Years of schooling, dedication and hard work at people’s expense is due in these times.
For all we know, the System has so many obsolete policies etc. not anymore conducive to proper teaching and military training for them.
In peace and war there is still compassion expected from every individual, more so for officers and soldiers.
Our soldiers live side by side with civilians and there must be no gaps in-between them for a good and peaceful relationship. This can only be accomplished by proper reforms of the PMA Honor Code System.
Victin Luz says
Tama ka @leona…. INDUCEMENT …..that question can be consider as an inducement question na kahit ano ang ISAGOT mo YES or NO…sabit ka LYING always ang interpretation sa iyo… Galing mo PO He he….reform the question your honor he he… Did you intend to deceive?
Kaya mahirap ang BATAS … LAWs has no direct and exact interpretaion /meaning . You have to take so many considerations , reasonable or not , in order to arrive to the most reasonable one.. Not like in MATH and like courses he he…
2 + 2 = 4 it can never be 3.99 or 4.01 ….exact ang answer.
I learned a lot on this BLOG …thank you maam Raissa, @ thaks Martial, @thank [email protected]@thanks Drill [email protected] to all CPMERs ,,to @LEONA……but we must be UNITED on 2016…. We have to select the BEST and winnable candidate….
leona says
You are welcome! Btw…acc to Oliver Wendel Holmes [Jr.] …law is not logic but experience [covering the vast knowledge of all human affairs…I think he meant that.]
leona says
@Victin…inducement is the consequence of being misled…MISLEADING are those questions specially the ‘examples’ quoted from the speaking Sec. of Defense.
It’s like ‘putting incriminatory words’ unto the lips of the poor ignorant Cadet on a phase or proceedings like a hearing conducted with accusations, charges and cooked judgment at hand…dismissal.
From my feeling after reading the news article(s) in this topic, the President realized there is something that needs to be done with the PMA Code of Honor System but he did not want to embarrass PMA and the AFP outright in public…so? Investigate further is a clear message…do this matter correctly and rightly!
Why? Because PNoy’s task is Matuwid na Daan! It includes the military institutions like PMA…since it blew up ….thanks Facebook…thanks to that sister of Cdt. Cudia.
Probably the family of Cdt. Cudia were feeling that he was being excessively canned! Something had to be done even desperately. That is a result when one does not get due process [of law] accordingly. Now, this news is all over the fences!
Rene-Ipil says
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The bachelor of science degree in PMA comprises of the military and the academic programs. A tri-service curriculum is being followed for the military program where a cadet specializes in ground, air or naval warfare. For the academic program, a cadet may specialize or major in civil, marine, electrical, aircraft maintenance, mechanical, or communication engineering. But the specialization is not anymore reflected in the diploma. Of course the transcript of records contains the major subjects. Similar to this are the liberal arts degrees awarded in some civilian universities where the specialization, i.e., economics, humanities, etc. is not reflected in the diploma.
If I make an elaborate diploma for PMA graduates, the diploma would read, for example, Bachelor of Science in Naval Warfare with Specialization in Marine Engineering, or Bachelor Of Science in Air Warfare with Specialization in Aircraft Maintenance Engineering, or Bachelor of Science in Ground Warfare with Specialization in Civil Engineering.. How is that for a change?
http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/iq/53129-pma-curriculum
leona says
@Rene…is the diploma now still only B.S.? If it is and the concerned cadet did specialized in Naval Warfare etc., for a change, as you suggested, why not ‘print’ the whole thing?
Since we know PMA is a prestigious Institution, make it so by printing that diploma more prestigious…and not B.S. only which [to me] is sooooo dull. Can’t they see it…it’s dull!
Put that ‘elaboration’ like you say. Thanks. Yes, that would be a good change for every graduating PMA Cadet.
Victin Luz says
Pweding pwede [email protected]…. Kasi most of the subjects in general engineering lke PHYSICs, CALCULUS,CHEMISTRY and advance MATH were also taken at PMA although in some instances like in ADVANCE MATH at PMA limited ang UNITs offered and earned which was also based on their approved curriculum…. according to former classmate of mine who completed his 2nd year Civil Engineering Course at MAPUA , and continued and graduated at PMA…so in order for them to GRADUATE CIVIL ENNGN. course , they have to take an additional units of ADVANCE MATH ( Strenght of Materials , Theory of Structures and etc. ) mga another less than 2 years of study in Engineering and they will be qualified to take the Board Exam of C.E….. MAGANDA @RENE ang IDEA mo but it should be PROPERLY RATIONALIZE by CHED all the CURRICULUM on every Bachelor of Sciences you had mentioned….. Otherwise bawal ata ang overlapping of Functions sa educational system natin…
Victin Luz says
Parang ganito you had complteed the course of Bachelor of Science in Ground Warfare specialized on Civil Engineering…. A laderized course or a preparatory course to another course and that is Bachelorvof Science in Civil Engineering..a second Profession..the bounderies of the two courses must be properly DEFINED. …..maganda iyan [email protected]
leona says
@Rene…sorry my reply to “how is that for a change” made hours ago was ‘obliterated’… here
Make that ‘elaborate’ diploma and print the elaboration. If that PMA diploma is still only ‘B.S.,’ I call it a ‘diploma-dull’!
Prestigious Institution like the PMA as known by many has a dull diploma indeed!
Many would like a change on that specially PMA graduates.
jorge bernas says
@ Marcial B.,
Honor Code ba kamu, Ano ba mga nangyayari sa mga generals natin na gumawa nang kahihiyan maging sa ibang Bansa at si the late angelo reyes nga ay nagbaril nang sarili dahil hindi na matanggap ang kahihiyan at pang-aaping ginawa sa mga Mamamayan PILIPINO na siya sana niyang dapat silbihan higit kanino pa man…
Sana pinatawad nalang at pina graduate si CfC Cudia para wala nang GULO at tahimik na ang lahat…napakaliit naman nang kasalanan nito kumpara sa ibang mga nagkasala… sino ba sa ating ang hindi nagkakamali? Alin kaya ang matimbang ang magpatawad o magbigay nang kaunting disciplinary action or alisan nang pangarap at ambisyon ang kapatid sa sandatahan? Ano man ang mangyari kay CFC Cudia ay kasalanan nang mga Bro. daw sa PMA? Sana pairalin din ang pagmamahal at malasakit sa kapwa……Kon ang ating kalaban sa patag awayan ( Rebelde, Abusayap, MNLF, BFF, etc.) ay nabigyan natin nang pagkakataon manumbalik sa Gobyerno ay dapat ganoon din gawin lalo na ating kapanalig? Sana huwag nating kalimutan na lahat tayo ay MAGKAKAPATID…
parengtony says
As we speak, the “conversion” scheme of which Col. Rabusa spoke of and which was the forerunner of the pork barrel scam, continues to be widely practiced- perhaps a little more discreetly than before- by many military officers (read PMA graduates).
This type of lying is much more hideous compared to Cudia’s alleged code of honor violation.
Other than Angelo Reyes who took the ultimate punishment upon himself, who else among the past and present violators of the so called PMA Code of Honor has been rendered a punishment more severe than Cudia’s?
As a small businessman, I have had the opportunity to observe from within the system the institution, the tradition that is the PMA. And I have learned to fervently admire so many aspects of it. But this is not one of them.
Kasi parang pang Cadete lamang ang Code of Honor. Parang may mga opisyal na exempted eh.
leona says
I agree @parengtony. Parang pang cadete lamang, subalit pinag hirapan ng APAT NA TAO…
5,000 push ups, 200x jumping, 100x sleepless nights, 10,000 minu-mura [so to say] ng Upper class cadets, isang drum ng PAWIS sa nerbyos at takot, atbpa…swerte hindi na HAZING pa…
…tapos, nag lie siya daw…DISMISSAL ang parusa? Diyos ko! Bakit ganito?
Tama @parentony…when one gets out of that Academy…many committed great and big LIES and got rich superbly! Sinong mga ito? Alam natin!
Yet, ‘they’ cannot be DISMISSED now…kasi tapos na ang Code of Honor for them!
Code of DISHONOR na ngayon for them!
leona says
…with many or some couple of graduates from the PMA Academy getting star-ranks or lower, gotten illegaly RICH etc….
PMA has been tarnished to its bottom! What is there about prolonging to put up that Code of Honor system in the sky? Nada!
Tama si Ma’m Raissa, she says abolished it etc.
leona says
In reality…from there at the bottom…’honor system’ is academically fictionalized! Fiction already! it’s not true ‘at all times.’
During the era of Martial law, how many PMA grads became superbly rich ‘at all times’?
After that era, how many still got rich and richer ‘at all times’? It was ‘money authority, at all times, over the civilian.’
Nyet! Hypocrazy lang lahat itong codigo de dishonorables.
vander anievas says
@leona,
kung alamin kaya natin kung sinu-sino na ang nagmamay-ari ng mga
kabundukan ngayon sa Pnas?
meron pang ultimong lupang kanduli ay pinabakuran at inaring kanya.
ang coastal line ba ay pwedeng sakupin ng isang indibidwal?
dapat sigurong kalkalin ang mga bagay na katulad ng mga pagmamay-ari ng mga lupain at kabundukan…
leona says
‘coastal line’ or beach property belongs to the State and cannot be titled to any individual or etc. But there are many who were able to do so…anomalous. LRA knows this but quiet in some cases. OSG knows this maybe too but no action. Lack of funds/gov’t lawyers.
Dami! Mountains and other lands of the public domain not proclaimed by the State/President for distribution for private titling are property of the State. In Boracay for example, many were able to violate the law but SC declared their titles null and void because there has been no valid proclamation made. The laws are there but no effective enforcement.
A sorry state of a mess.
Martial Bonifacio says
@parengtony & @Leona
Air Force 2nd Lt. Ernalyn Fernando, the class goat of “siklab diwa” class:
Link: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/586176/this-time-pma-goat-is-a-female
http://www.rappler.com/nation/53149-pma-graduation-celebration
In hindsight both her and Cadet Cudia have a similarity. It’s just that the two took different paths. 2nd Lt. Fernando could have also appealed her case/demerits going to the bottom of the list from 28th to 222nd but she did not. For her graduation is more important than grades and position (28th).
Let me take it a little bit further, kung sa simula ay hindi mo na mapagkakatiwalaan si Cadet Cudia dahil sa maliit na bagay, papaano na kapag pumasok na siya sa AFP?
Maaari din nating sabihin na baka gumaya siya kay Rabusa, Ligot, Garcia, Cimatu, Reyes, EU Generals atbp. na pansarili din kapakanan ang unang iniisip hindi po ba?
leona says
@Martial B…the two may have similarities but that does make theirs alike. They had different paths taken, different approaches and different reasons. Thus, not alike.
Hypothetical statement is ‘taking it a bit further’ …’that Cadet Cudia cannot be trusted as soon as he becomes an officer of the AFP’ – while still a cadet he is start ‘lying’?
That is precisely the issue at hand. Has he been correctly and rightly found to have been lying with a judgment in accordance with due process…fair and square, under our law?
If he has been adjudged correctly as guilty…we don’t find him as an officer in the AFP…as he will have been dismissed. Forget the cases of Rabusa, Ligot, Garcia, Cimatu, Reyes, EU generals. These are six (6) different events that obviously will just not parallel in line to the issue(s) of Cadet Cudia. They are not cadets.
If you are a member of the Honor Code panel would you use this
– “Maaari din nating sabihin na baka gumaya siya kay Rabusa, Ligot, Garcia, Cimatu, Reyes, EU Generals atbp. na pansarili din kapakanan ang unang iniisip”
in the proceedings against Cadet Cudia?
Foul yan. You will be cut down by the due process system outright.
filipino_mom says
imho, it speaks volumes when those who came from this institution, supposedly inculcated by this much-vaunted “honor code” that they claim that we, civilians, would never understand, those who become leaders and were leaders in their class from day one, are the very ones who commit grave abuses against those that they should serve. the leaders who should be the ones who are so deeply ingrained with the “honor code” and are even the ones who have led their mistahs in implementing this same code, have violated this with impunity.
what honor code are they talking about, then, when they choose to raise up and place on pedestals the very ones who have raped, murdered and defaced beyond recognition their precious honor code?
leona says
@Mom_filipino…we have so many CODES, hundreds to thousands!….but these cannot all be remembered and followed.
…so close to TRAPOS is the code of dynasties
….code of korruption
…code codes and lots of codes! Kodomi…many!
Victin Luz says
To fellow CPMERs on this Blog…….PNOYs action on what Sir @Baycas had posted bellow comment’s # 89 all….was the DUE PROCESS cadet CUDIAs was asking for…..PNOY did not passed the ball to anybody else…HE ,PNOY was now giving affordable time a last chance to argue his case and present other evidences to support his acquittal IF ANY…..he he ..hindi po tayo LAWYER pero ang sabi nila mahalaga daw ang pagpapatupad ng PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS sa ating lahat na FILIPINO …
At ang natatandaan ko sa mga posting dati dito sa BLOG na ito ay ….MOTION for RECONSIDERATION ,,,MOTION to have an EXTENSION of TIME ,,,to the extent on giving a person especially CUDIAs case which will conclude his FUTURE,,a 2nd or 3rd MOTION for EXTENDION of TIME is paramount RIGHTs under our Constitution… A democratic ,republican Government FOR the PEOPLE, BY the PEOPLE of the PEOPLE…
Kahit pa sabihin nating konswelo di BOBO ang ginawa ni PNOY,,, still THAT PRECIOUS TIME given to CUDIA was the DUE PROCESS he was asking for na hindi ibinigay o takot ibigay ng taga AFP-PMA….di po ba mga SIRs….he he
Victin Luz says
PEOPLE of the PHILIPPINES at large THRU PNOY our duly elected President exercises CIVILIAN AUTHORITY over the MILITARY…he he galing ka [email protected] iyan at naniniwala po ako.
leona says
Thanks for your effort too and our CPMers’ sharing here. Thanks to Raissa most of all. Leadership in gov’t is needed with so little politics when it comes to matuwid na daan to enforce the laws of the land.
We are only starting on that path. Matagal pa maka 50% accomplishment.
2016 pres’l election will be very crucial. We may start all over again on this path or never at all.
God help us if we cannot help ourselves! Mabuhay ‘o Mamatay ang Pilipinas.
baycas says
My comment immediately below #89.1…
Victin Luz says
Sir @BAYCAS…We don’t have to wait for the decision CSAFP to have that DUE PROCESS to CUDIA…..of course a favorable decision is most wanting for cadet CUDIA but a NO or YES or whatever that ORDER maybe ..the EXTENSION of TIME ( submission of formal request and etc, ) granted to CUDIA ay IYON NA IYON ang hindi ibinigay ng taga PMA nor Honor Committe before and REMEMBER people , malayo pa naman ang graduation noong nag decide sila to expell CUDIA without giving HIM that Procedural DUE PROCESS needed to an accused/respondent ……. Had they given that to CUDIA di hindi sana humantong sa Presidente…kahit tinanggal din sya sa PMA po..
TIME is of the ESSENCE,,,,ito talaga ang ginawa ng Honor Committe in rendering to the early the convivtion of CUDIA without DUE PROCESS,,,,ang nasa isip nila baka mga bumaliktad ang isa sa member di wala na silang UNANIMOUS VOTE to arrive in a conviction di po ba…ganoon din si CUDIA , time is of the essence din ang kailangan nya to convince even one to reverse a decision ,, lumaban ang KADETE ,,lintik kayo ang daming nagsisinungaling dito na hindi lang nahuhuli or the Honor Committtee hardness to get an unanimous vote sa iba pang may kaso…. Hayan nagngangakngak na , pumunta sa Presidente natin dahil ayaw mag DECIDE ang mga sinungaling at magnanakaw na mga HENERAL ng HUKBO natin,,,sino ang dapat sisihin ABER? Si CUDIA lang ba ? Di HINDI ?
But i believe whatever the final decision will be , CUDIA will accept,, and my own point of view ,,,He was not allowed to graduate tommorrow , but definitely gragraduate iyan ,,he he …
baycas says
I won’t wait…PNoy probably…you too perhaps…
baycas says
Correction:
I won’t wait…
PNoy probably will wait.
You too perhaps will wait.
vander anievas says
oo naman,
sabi nga ni sir baycas, pnoy shld not dip his finger into that issue.
at ang action niya ay isang patunay ng isang tunay na ama ng bansa na nagmamalasakit sa kanyang mga anak.
due process is all i’m expecting. to be fair and square,
walang tinatago.
kudos pres pnoy. mabuhay po kayo…
raissa says
Personally, I believe PMA shld be shut down and three separate schools for the three armed forces branches be set up.
Tomas Gomez III says
I agree, Raissa. This was recommended by the late Dr. Guy Pauker…..(high level of security clearance US State Department / National Security Agency, a Rand Corporation analyst, and a military modernization scholar, SouthEastAsian expert….and….may have been with the CIA, too) .during the first few months of Tita Cory’s presidency. I believe he wrote a think piece on this. Guy was a very good friend of Ninoy. Guy helped Ninoy into a Harvard fellowship at the Kennedy School of Government.
Tomas Gomez III says
Should read….National Security Council
vander anievas says
i totally agree.
matagal ko nang wish iyang sinabi mo.
simula pa ng panahon ni cory noong walang humpay na inaatake ni grungo et al.
imo, maraming salapi ang nasayang ng bansa sa iba sa kanila.
sobrang unfair para sa mas maraming dukhang kabataan na hindi makapag-aral nang libre at nakokopo ng mga anak ng maimpluwensya lang.
Rene-Ipil says
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Agree. I think there is already a proposal to establish a naval academy similar to Annapolis in US. The present PMA will serve as the academy for the army similar to West Point. We already have our Air Force academy in Lipa. Maybe another academy for the coast guard is necessary.