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by Raïssa Robles
Just as scientists say that nature abhors a vacuum, politics also abhors a power vacuum and hastens to fill it. This is what Philippine National Police Director General Alan Purisi
ma did with tragic results. He exploited gaps in the law to legally and plausibly argue he still had the power to “give advice” in order to green light a covert operation.
Let’s start from the beginning.
When Mar Roxas was appointed Interior and Local Governments Secretary on August 31, 2012 and Alan Purisima was appointed PNP Director General four months later on December 15, 2012, the pairing appeared to be a dream team. Both men had the president’s ear.
Two days after his appointment as national police chief – on December 17, 2012 – Purisima revived the hunt for the Malaysian bomber Marwan, this time in Mamasapano, Maguindanao and called it Oplan Wolverine. It was led by Special Action Forces chief Getulio Napeñas and coordinated with the Armed Forces of the Philippines. It was scuttled.
Napenas would lead five more manhunts up to November 2014. And shortly after the Ombudsman suspended Purisima, Napeñas – still taking directions from Purisima – led a sixth manhunt operation on December 12, 2014. This, too, was aborted at the last minute when the operation was underway.
But perhaps, there was another reason for scuttling this mission: Purisima had failed to obtain a stay order from the Court of Appeals to stop his suspension as PNP chief. Purisima’s lawyer, Kristoffer James Purisima, had sought a court TRO (temporary restraining order) on a technicality. He said Ombudsman Conchita Carpio Morales had erred by sending the suspension order to the DILG Office of Secretary Mar Roxas instead of to the National Police Commission (Napolcom). The 1987 Constitution specifies that this five-member Commission chaired by the DILG Secretary has administrative control over the national police force. In other words, it is this “collegial body” and not Roxas which has administrative control over the police.
The Court of Appeals did not ease the confusion. Instead of junking or granting Purisima’s TRO request it ordered the Ombudsman to explain why it should not grant a TRO to Purisima.
And so the PNP leadership was caught in limbo even if Purisima’s supposed replacement, PNP Deputy Director-General Leonardo Espina, had been named “Officer-in-Charge.” Actually, when the Ombudsman’s suspension order was announced, Espina was already the OIC because Purisima was on official mission abroad. And so Espina’s OIC status was merely extended when Purisima’s suspension order came through.
No less than President Benigno Aquino III issued a warning while he was still in Busan, South Korea that Purisima had to follow the suspension order and if anyone did not follow Espina, “that person gets removed.”
You’d think Aquino’s warning would have settled the matter then and there. Perhaps in another country but not in the Philippines – the land of a thousand lawyers.
Senate President Franklin Drilon separately warned on December 12, 2014 that a mere OIC at the helm of PNP would not do:
“In an organization such as the Philippine National Police where authority and leadership is strictly observed, Purisima’s suspension from his post would turn it into a ‘headless’ body.”
“That situation is what we wanted to prevent, especially in light of the forthcoming hosting of the Philippines of two high-profile events next year which would require a full-time PNP chief to be on top of all security preparations.”
Senator Chiz Escudero also pointed out in a press conference on December 11, 2014 that merely extending Espina’s OIC status and not making him “Acting Chief PNP” could “destabilize” the PNP because “you do not know who is your top boss.”
Escudero enumerated why:
“May limitasyon ang authority ng isang OIC. May limitasyon ang authority ng isang pumalit lang dahil nagbiyahe sa ibang bansa ang head of agency. So, maraming proyekto, maraming gawain, maraming kailangang gawin nab aka hindi magawa dahil hindi maliwanag kung sino ang nasa ulo ng Philippine National Police.”
Escudero elaborated on the problem that would arise especially during intelligence operations:
“Kung suspended pwedeng acting PNP Chief o OIC pero kung OIC sa pangmahabang panahon mas may karapatan at kapangyarihan na rin siya kumpara sa… Acting OIC lamang si General Espina dahil nagbyahe si General Purisima. Iba iyon sa suspendido ka ng anim na buwan. So kung anim na buwan ano? Halimbawa, ang pwede lamang pumirma at gumastos ng intelligence funds, dapat pirmahan ng PNP Chief iyan at hindi pwedeng OIC din lamang. So ano yan walang intelligence operations ang PNP? Hindi naman pwede iyon. So dapat maliwanag iyan at walang duda. Paano kapag ang teorya ng PNP Chief ay hindi siya suspendido? Ang teorya ng DILG Secretary ay na-serve na. Paano kapag nagbigay ng utos si General Purisima, hindi susundin, susundin ba, baka pagalitan? Dapat sana maliwanag ang chain of command.”
When Escudero was asked by reporters whether President Aquino could appoint the OIC or acting PNP Chief, he explained:
“Technically it’s not the President who appoints. It’s the NAPOLCOM. But the NAPOLCOM is chaired by an alter ego of the President in the person of the DILG Secretary. So in a way it is the President but through the DILG Secretary, through the NAPOLCOM.”
When asked to clarify whether like the Armed Forces Chief-of-Staff, a PNP Chief reports directly to the President as his commander-in-chief, Ecudero said:
“Again, through iyon. Through through iyon. Nagrereport lamang diretso iyon pag pinatawag siya at sa kasong ito hindi naman maikakaila na magkaibigan sila ng PNP Chief kahit kami noon.”
Escudero added that even Executive Secretary Paquito Ochoa can only recommend the PNP Chief, acting or permanent.
I am reproducing the pertinent transcript of Escudero’s interview at the end of this piece.
On the same day that Senator Escudero spoke, Mar Roxas formally asked Napolcom to define Espina’s authority as OIC.
Given all these legal opinions, it would seem that over the Christmas holidays the country had two police bosses: Espina and Purisima. It was in this atmosphere of legal confusion that Purisima and Napenas met President Aquino twice to discuss a new manhunt for Marwan called Oplan Exodus – on December 19 and January 9.
But isn’t the Ombusdman’s suspension enough, you would probably ask.
The problem is that in the Philippines even if a court has already detained or convicted certain public officials, they are still allowed to function. Take the case of former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, former Congressman Romeo Jalosjos and even Senator Antonio Trillanes when he was under military detention. Instead of clarifying things, our laws have created a fog of uncertainty that enables high public officials to continue to function even while under preventive suspension or detention.
In this case, the results were tragic. There was no one, operationally on top of Oplan Exodus, who could deal directly with the military chief when urgent help was needed.
The President had earlier ordered Napenas to “coordinate” with the military but Napenas said he decided to forego prior coordination and took Purisima’s advice to inform the military about the operation when it was underway.
Why DILG Secretary Mar Roxas was also not informed beforehand was obvious. It was Roxas who had implemented Purisima’s suspension order.
As for Espina, operationally he did not have to know about Oplan Exodus because he was a mere OIC.
In fact, on January 13, 2015, Napolcom announced it had issued on January 6 a resolution assigning “delegated authority” to OIC Espina. I once saw a copy of the resolution but I can’t find it anymore online. Napolcom does not have it posted on its website.
“The approval of OIC Espina’s delegated authority is necessary in order to achieve, efficient, effective and responsive operations of the PNP, thereby avoiding undue delay in the performance of the day-to-day activities of the police organization.”
The Napolcom press release added:
“As PNP OIC, PDDG Espina is authorized to approve/confirm various transactions, as follows: contracts involving procurement of services/resources by the PNP; approval of disbursements/payments of the PNP’s legitimate/regular financial transactions; authorization for the release of funds from the Agency Reserved Fund FY 2014; obligate funds from Trust Receipt; sign and counter-sign checks; and approve payroll and disbursement vouchers.
Additionally, OIC Espina has the authority to exercise disciplinary authority as Chief, PNP; designate appropriate OICs for the various PNP offices/units; appoint PNP Non-Uniformed Personnel SG 24 and below; sign documents concerning payments of retirement benefits of personnel with pending administrative cases but who have complied with the requirements under pertinent laws and circulars; enter into or renew agreements concerning regular transactions of the PNP; and issue firearms licenses and permits pursuant to the Comprehensive Firearms and Ammunition Regulation Act.”
Nowhere did the press release give Espina “delegated authority” over special covert ops like Oplan Exodus.
Espina did not complain, at least not publicly. He had his hands full with the papal visit, the Black Nazarene procession and the APEC Senior Officials Meeting, all taking place in January.
To this day, the Court of Appeals has not junked Purisima’s TRO. Instead, last Monday February 9, the Court ordered the Ombudsman to “show cause” why Purisima’s motion should be rejected.
Espina continues to be a mere OIC even though Purisima has resigned from the post.
Is President Aquino fully to blame for this confused set-up?
As Escudero pointed out last December,
“Technically it’s not the President who appoints. It’s the NAPOLCOM. But the NAPOLCOM is chaired by an alter ego of the President in the person of the DILG Secretary. So in a way it is the President but through the DILG Secretary, through the NAPOLCOM.”
Under the present set-up, the Napolcom submits names from which the President chooses the PNP-DG. In short, it’s similar to the Judicial Bar Council for high court appointees.
What the President could have done was to force or persuade Purisima to resign. But he was loath to do that because he owed him too much. As Aquino said:
“From then, until today, Alan and I have gone through so much; he was with me in opposing powerful vested interests who were capable of threatening our lives. In the days when I was part of the opposition, even though it was detrimental to his career to be close to me, Alan did not leave my side.”
Is the President liable for the failure to extract the SAF commandos on time and for continuing to meet with Purisima even while the latter was suspended by the Ombudsman? Legally, this may be hard to prove because of the government set-up. Republic Act No. 6975 – approved on December 13, 1990 during the administration of Corazon Aquino and amended by RA 8551 at the twilight of President Fidel Ramos’ administration – had removed Napolcom from the Office of the President and placed it within the DILG umbrella.
Thus, there is no chain–of-command to speak of similar to the military where the AFP chief can go directly to the President, his commander-in-chief, totally bypassing the Department of National Defense Secretary.
Morally, it’s another thing altogether. President Aquino himself acknowledged on February 6, 2015:
“As President and Commander-in-Chief, I am fully responsible for any result—any triumph, any suffering, and any tragedy—that may result from our desire for lasting peace and security.
I am the father of this country and 44 of my children were killed. They can no longer be brought back. This tragedy happened during my term, and I will carry this to the end of my days. They were my responsibility, together with the rest of the forces of the SAF involved in this operation, as well as those who rescued them, and whose lives were likewise put in danger.”
In addition, although the DILG Secretary chairs Napolcom, he cannot decide alone on police matters. Only the five-member “collegial” body can.
I don’t think the suspension of a PNP chief was anticipated by both laws since Purisima is the first-ever PNP chief to be ordered suspended for graft. Perhaps an amendment can lift this dangerous ambiguity particularly when it comes to special ops.
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Here is the official transcript of Sen. Escudero’s Dec 11, 2014 press briefing:
QUESTION: (inaudible)
Wala pa kaming data for 2014, kasi yung 2013… kakaiba e. So, nagkulang talaga. Saka pitong bilyon lang yung calamity fund don. Dinoble namin pero kung titingnan mo ang debastasyon ng Yolanda… kulang na kulang yon, so kung hindi mala-Yolanda ang tatama sa atin, dapat sapat na yon. For 2014, tingin ko ni hindi sila nag-augment ng NDRRMC fund. Sapat yung 14 billion baka nga sobra pa.
Sir, si PNP Chief Purisima failed to get a TRO from the Court of Appeals, indication ba iyon na malakas yung basis ng preventive suspension na inimpose sa kanya ng Office of the Ombudsman.
Actually, malakas man o mahina, Korte na ang bahala dun pero kung maliwanag, siguro hindi malakas o mahina, maliwanag ba o hindi? Hindi maliwanag sa Korte dahil humihingi pa sila ng Komentaryo sa Ombudsman pero problema ng Korte yun. Kung mag-grant sila TRO, mananatili siya, kung hindi siya mag-grant ng TRO, hindi siya pwedeng manatili. Hindi na dapat siguro pinagdedebatehan iyan. Bakit kailangan pang magdebate sa dyaryo dapat ipatupad na lang yung kautusan.
Sir, may basis ba si Purisima na kwinestiyon niya ng una yung karapatan ni DILG Sec. Roxas na mag-implement nung suspension.
Kada-abogado may kanya-kanyang opinion kung paano at ano dapat siyempre ang papabor sa kliyente niyapero sana huwag silang magdebate sa publiko. Bahagi sila ng iisang organisasyon. Sana kung anuman desisyon, kung anuman yung posisyon ay iisa lamang para hindi naapektuhan yung Departamento at para hindi naapektuhan yung institusyon, para hind naman naguguluhan yung organisasyon. Kahapon, may heneral kaming bisita galing sa PNP. Pati siya aabangan niya daw yung mga mangyayari kung sino. Hindi pwedeng ganun. Dapat down the line alam nila sino ba ang Chief PNP, siya ba ay suspendido o hindi. Kapag siya ay suspendido, sino ang papalit? Kapag naka-TRO siya, siya pa rin ba? Dapat lahat iyan maliwanag para yung chain of command maliwanag din. Hindi pwedeng may duda. Hindi pwedeng may alinlangan at hindi maganda na pinagdedebatehan sa publiko.
Pwede ba yun makadestabilize sa PNP as an institution?
Well, definitely dahil hindi mo alam sinong pinakabossing mo. Hindi lang bossing. PNP Chief lang ang pwedeng pumirma sa ilang vouchers at mga papeles. May limitasyon ang authority ng isang OIC. May limitasyon ang authority ng isang pumalit lang dahil nagbiyahe sa ibang bansa ang head of agency. So, maraming proyekto, maraming gawain, maraming kailangang gawin nab aka hindi magawa dahil hindi maliwanag kung sino ang nasa ulo ng Philippine National Police.
So hindi dapat simpleng OIC. Dapat dito acting PNP Chief?
Kung suspended pwedeng acting PNP Chief o OIC pero kung OIC sa pangmahabang panahon mas may karapatan at kapangyarihan na rin siya kumpara sa… Acting OIC lamang si General Espina dahil nagbyahe si General Purisima. Iba iyon sa suspendido ka ng anim na buwan. So kung anim na buwan ano? Halimbawa, ang pwede lamang pumirma at gumastos ng intelligence funds, dapat pirmahan ng PNP Chief iyan at hindi pwedeng OIC din lamang. So ano yan walang intelligence operations ang PNP? Hindi naman pwede iyon. So dapat maliwanag iyan at walang duda. Paano kapag ang teorya ng PNP Chief ay hindi siya suspendido? Ang teorya ng DILG Secretary ay na-serve na. Paano kapag nagbigay ng utos si General Purisima, hindi susundin, susundin ba, baka pagalitan? Dapat sana maliwanag ang chain of command.
Sa pag-appoint ng OIC…, is everything clear?
I think at least during the period of preventive suspension, yes. Ang Senado nga sumunod e. Tatlo sa mga kasamahan namin sa Senado ang preventively suspended. Hindi naman kami nagdalawang isip e. As soon as naging final ang order pinatupad agad namin. Natapos na nga ang ninety days e. So kung mas matataas na opisyal na halal pa sumusunod at buma-bow sa decision ng korte. Siguro naman ang mga appointed lamang din ay sumunod rin at galangin ang desisyon ng korte. Kahit na mali pa iyon ha. Kahit na sang-ayon pa sila o hindi. Iyon ang desisyon e.
The president could appoint the ___.
Technically it’s not the President who appoints. It’s the NAPOLCOM. But the NAPOLCOM is chaired by an alter ego of the President in the person of the DILG Secretary. So in a way it is the President but through the DILG Secretary, through the NAPOLCOM.
Pero hindi ba ang PNP Chief ay direktang nagrereport sa commander in chief, sa Pangulo, so dapat si PNoy ang…
Again, through iyon. Through through iyon. Nagrereport lamang diretso iyon pag pinatawag siya at sa kasong ito hindi naman maikakaila na magkaibigan sila ng PNP Chief kahit kami noon.
Kung hindi nya nga fina-follow ang Secretary ng DILG, so it’s PNoy na.
Hindi pa naman niya hindi sinusunod e. hindi lang siya sang-ayon sa teorya pero ang gusto ko nga malaman kasi sabi kahapon ni General Barrios na hanggang kahapon daw ang pagiging OIC ni General Espina. Ang tanong ko, anong mangyayari bukas? Today? Hindi ko alam kung inextend. Ngayon kung inextend hindi mo naman pwedeng sabihin na dine-defy ni General Purisima. Bakit nagbibigay ba siya ng order? Baka naman hindi lang siya sumasangayon pero nandoon siya sa bahay. Iba iyong hindi ka sumasangayon, papasok ka sa opisina, pipirma ka at magbibigay ka ng kaliwa’t kanang utos. Iba iyon. Iba iyon sa hindi ako sangayon.
Kasi ang concern ng marami ay meron tayong preparations para sa Papal visit so andaming dapat ayusin sa peace and order and then may ganitong problema sa leadership ng PNP.
Sangayon ako kaya nga dapat maliwanag iyan at walang duda kung sino at ano ang kung ganito ang mangyayari, sino ang papalit. At kung wala naman ito, siya ba talaga o hindi? Dapat maliwanag iyon at walang duda roon. At kung magdedebate man sila at hindi man sila sasangayon sa posisyon ng bawat isa, sana sa loob na lang ng kwarto, wag sa media at wag sa publiko.
Si ES po ba may say diyan bilang head ng presidential… ?
Hindi. Wala. Makakapagrekomenda siguro pero ang kapangyarihan ng opisina niya ay walang papel na gagampanan sa pagpili ng PNP Chief, acting man o permanente.
May nagsasabi na nagging basehan ng suspension ni Purisima ay ang pumirma daw doon ay si dating PNP Chief Nick Bartolome. Parang nag-implement lang siya so the same baa ng weight kung palpak ang pinirmahang kontrata na inimplement mo the same lang ang liability mo?
Malamang kasi sinimulan man ang bidding procedure noong panahon ng dating PNP Chief, malamang ang pumirma ng kontrata ay siya na e. so saklaw pa rin iyon doon.
So siya na ang mananagot doon?
Dahil siya ang pumirma ng kontrata. Kung disadvantageous man iyon.
Di ba to unburden the president, resign or..
Antagal na niyan. Ginawa niya na sana noon pa. Kayo naman, huwag na nating… Magpapasko pa. Huwag na nating asahan siguro iyon.
Ano ang dapat i-appoint acting o ___?
Acting kasi suspended lang naman e. unless tatanggalin na siya. Suspended lang naman e.
So ano ba yung difference?
Kasi may period na eh. Ito kasi nag-travel lang siya e so pansamantala lang talaga, parang si Executive secretary Ochoa ‘pag nagbibiyahe ang pangulo, limitado ang kapangyarihan niya. Iba ang sitwasyon ‘pag suspendido na talaga.
Hindi ba easier kung sisibakin na lang ng president para unburdened siya?
Maraming mas madaling bagay sa mundo pero minsan yung mas madaling bagay hindi maganda ang kinalalabasan. Minsan yung masakit, mahirap at mabigat, iyon ang mas dapat ginagawa. Desisyon ni Pangulong Aquino.
Kapag po Acting PNP Chief, meron ba siyang same power.. kung meron na set na period?
Ide-designate niya dapat ang powers niya doon. Hindi ba naging issue na rin iyan kay Acting Secretary Garin, kung puwede ba siyang magtanggal, kasi nagtatanggal na siya eh. Kinuwestiyon sa korte iyon di ba kasi dapat naka-specify iyon, the power to hire, fire, transfer and designate. Usually pag may pumapalit lang pag nagbiyahe, hindi kasama ang kapangyarihang iyon.
Sir, hihintayin nyo po ba muna na may ma-designate muna ang powers bago i-approve ang supplemental budget?
Hindi naman, concerned lang ako kung sino ang gagawin nilang… Siguro naman by Tuesday next week, maliwanag na iyan. Alangan namang umabot pa ng isang lingo itong isyung ito. Ddapat naman siguro by Tuesday next week, maliwanag na, naresolbahan na kung sino ba talaga. Tinanong ko lang iyan kahapon dahil nanghihingi sila ng 2.8 billion pesos, siguro naman dapat lang na malaman namin kung sino ba ang pagbibigyan namin nito. Sabi nila organisasyon, oo, pero ni hindi alam ng organisasyon kung sino ang ulo nila. Dapat kilala nila.
Paano pag hindi parin malinawan….?
Sana hindi na and I hope this can be resolved either by the President or the Secretary or by the courts by that time and I am confident that it will be resolved by that time.
raissa says
I am sorry, “FYI” –
I cannot allow my site to be used for propaganda.
You want to post a comment here using only the Manila Times as your source, when you already have the Senate hearings as the primary source.
Your narrative of the events are confusing.
Pls try again.
Ancient Mariner says
Raissa, I seem to detect a trend toward stifling the use of the English language in your blog, led notably by our narcissistic friend Parekoy.
Seems a bit like a takeover bid with a view to excluding foo..reigners.
Oh well. C’est la vie
Parekoy says
Not really!
When I made my piece in Tagalog, I would like to show that we are targeting even the C, D, and E classes. for some of them are not well verse in English. Kailangan sa wikang siguradong maiintindihan para mas epektibo.
It is sometimes easier to express our sentiments in english but I prefer mixing my comments. It is your choice, you can use English exclusively if you are comfortable with it.
Narcissistic? Whoa! I am to mature for that kind of pettiness! :)
Takeover what? Nobody takes over this blog! It is our collective blog! Sometimes I am active, sometimes I am not! Sometimes others have more to share, while sometimes I have none. It just that I find some free time and decided to spend it here since it is worthy of my time and efforts! I know how to balance my time, I have time for my family, I earn a living decently, I am socially active, I have my volunteering activities, and time here to serve our nation!
Excluding foreigners? Legally they should not meddle!
But as I said, I have given him a pass for he has some skin in the game fathering Filipino kids! But the main issue is the doctrine that I believe is the spirit of CPM, No Sacred Cows! and Our Nation’s Interest i Paramount! If Joeam is trying to steer us in his choice of not criticizing Aquino, I can’t give him a pass, for the integrity of this blog is at stake!
Joeam can do whatever he wants in his blog and his captured audience care less if Joeam is acting like an extension of Aquino’s Propaganda Machine, then he has every right, but here in our CPM, whenever he tries to influence us on that doctrine, I am the first one to raise his convoluted stance towards personalities, it violates what our blog represents!
Even most of the times our interests and Aquino’s interests are similar but when time comes in search for truth our interests clash, then we have to assert what we are here for as citizens.
I hope you understand the nuance and that nuance is very important for that il be our guiding light and plenty of our citizens will follow our non-partisanship! Everybody is game no sacred cows!
Ancient Mariner says
JoeAm is not meddling merely stating his point of view and contributing to Raissa’s blog.
He, no more than you, can change the course of Philippine politics via the blog.
He has every right to state his opinion on the blog and it is not your right to act as blog policeman. Your words above are leaning towards racist which is sad.
Most of the time I enjoy your contributions but when you turn on the vitriol and start boasting of your sexual prowess I lose interest.
Any one who chooses to brag obout the size of his “butoh” on a public blog is nothing short of in love with himself. Maturity does not come into it, Defensor-Santiago, presumably mature, is a narcissist extraordinaire.
Parekoy says
I respect your opinion!
You see it as not meddling, I see it differently. We can agree to disagree.
I’m no racist! I am just reminding everybody that Foreigners are not supposed to meddle in politics not their own. It is unethical and even illegal as defined by other countries. Try doing that in Saudi Arabia, in China, in Malaysia, in Singapore, and other Western Countries that you declared that you are a Foreigner and yet keep meddling, or I use your word stating your opinion, and tell us what happens.
Blog Policeman- I’m am no policeman in this blog but a concerned Netizen who cares in keeping the integrity of this blog. If you find something that you think concerns you that may affect our blog, I believe you would do the same.
Thank you for enjoying my contributions and of course I am aware that when I spewed my vitriol not everybody will like it. but you know what, as I said before, I don’t give a damn because being liked is the least of my goals. My goal is to agitate, to provoke and make us think!
My “butoh” is no longer than yours! It is a literary spice to give us something to laugh about. I believe you did not get the memo that it was satire. :) Please don’t get intimidated by my ‘butoh’, we are a race known of short dicks, so if your is longer, then lucky you!
I did not know that you are prude, but it is okay your mom did the right thing to in your upbringing!
I like what you did, you just criticized me and it is healthy exchange. No sacred cows, even us!
Cheers!
Sarah says
Headline on Rappler: “Hundreds flee Maguindanao villages due to fighting.”
Notably absent is the widespread outrage on behalf of those displaced by fighting. Hmmmm. Bakit kaya?
Parekoy says
Sarah,
Nakakaawa ang mga civilians…sila ang palaging casualties of war…kawawa ang mga bata na dapat sana nasa eskewela at may natutunan, mga magulang na sana nagtratrabaho para kumita ng pera, pero dahil sa gulo sila ang unang nagugulo!
Nasaan kaya ang gobyerno natin o di kaya ang mga leader ng MILF, ano ang kanilang ginagawang tulong sa mga kapatid nating nadisplaced?
Bakit walang outrage? Dahil di naipapakita ang katayuan ng ating mga kababayan sa Maguindanao at ang iba naman ay ang tingin sa mga kababayang muslim eh mga sympathizers ng MILF o ng BIFF.
Dapat nandon ang red cross or red crescent para matulingan ang mga nadisplaced o di kaya magpakitang gilas si Dinky Soliman dahil yun naman talaga ang trabaho nya!
Dinkyyyyyyyyyy! Pakidala sila sa resort, pleaseeeeeeeee!
leona says
We are done with ‘advice’ and ‘advise.’
Let’s go to this –
What does it mean a ‘best effort rescue without endangering reinforcing troops’?
But if no reinforcing troops are sent, is it best efforts? If sent, what does it mean to have ‘best efforts’ that no harm is done to the reinforcing troops?
‘Di ko alam or I can make a thousand guess answers.
leona says
Lin for ‘best efforts’ etc. –
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2015/02/16/1424209/saf-44-grenades-dud
Rene-Ipil says
Please note that the 84th SAF crossed five rivers. Maybe the grenades were not totally protected due to long exposure to water which seeped into the point where the pin is attached.
leona says
Possible it got wet. So, dry the grenades and when dried, try pulling the safety pins again. We’ll know if DUDS or DEADLY. . .
he he he
moonie says
I heard that to waterproof grenades, soldiers resorted to putting them in condoms!
Rene-Ipil says
Best rescue efforts without endangering reinforcement troops.
Ibig sabihin ay walang suicide moves tulad ng ginawa ng SAF. Sukdulang kakayahan, pamamaraan, lakas ng sandata, dunong, tapang, dami ng sundalo at sandata. Paano? Bigay todo ang artillery fire. Mortars, recoilless rifles, cannons, etc. Huwag magtipid sa materyales o bala, gasolina at iba pang gamit.
Gamitin ang pinakamabuting paraan at pinakamahusay na artillery men. Kasi kapag pumasok ang infantry men ay magiging masyadong madugo at mas marami ang mamamatay sa magkabilang panig. White phosphorous pa nga lang ay very effective na. Lalo na kung live ammo.
Hindi yata nasunod ang utos ni PNoy. HEADS MUST ROLL.
I understand that most of the victims in the 84th SAF were killed point-blank between 2 PM to 6 PM of January 25.
leona says
That’s what Normandy D-Day history says: bombardment of the Utah & Omaha beaches for a week but shortened it to only 3 days only. The American troops waded ashore after that.
It was a DISASTER! The German concrete pill-boxes were not taken out. By NOON TIME, about 5,000 casualties already, dead or injured. Same with Saipan and Iwo Jima.
[email protected] is right! Pour it all out! Roll ‘d Barrels! There’s a problem. . . the order is STAND DOWN! Anybody Everybody NOBODY moves! Respect the peace agreement daw.
If I have a commander like that I quit being a SAF die hard or soldier of fortunes cookies. I like BIRD WATCHING na lang.
leona says
Adolf Hitler was a ‘cabo’ or corporal in WW I. But he became Chancellor of Germany. In Military opns etc., he wanted to shine over his top German commanders and overruled them through and through.
Most of his generals were afraid of him. So they allowed him to do all the planning, operations and executions of war plans. Disaster finally followed. History tell Germany lost WW II.
If any general is afraid of his own commander-in-chief and is a YES MAN, disasters will follow for sure in actual military operations.
Parekoy says
Pwede ring….
Best effort kayo, pag narescue Ako ang kukuha ng accolades!
Pag nabulilyaso, kayo ang sasalo…
Parekoy says
I admit, I am a Revolutionary and a Thought Provocateur!
Noong una akong naligaw dito sa CPM, iba ang dating! Napupunuan ni Raissa ang pagkukulang ng mainstream media na talakayin ng masusi ang mga pangyayari sa ating bansa!
Nahikayat ako, at minsan ay addicting pala pag napukaw ang ating damdaming makabayan!
Maraming komentarista dito, iba-iba ang style, galing sa iba-inag antas ng buhay.
Huwag tayong maniniwala na ang demographics o mga tagasubaybay ng CPM natin ay mga A an B class lang. Mali po yan, dahil ang mga tinig po natin ay halo-halo at halata naman sa mga nai-aalay natin ang ating mga napag-daanan ay hindi lang galing sa A and B class o mga nakapag-aral at may kakayahan sa buhay. Halo-halo po tayo dito at ang iba ay nanggaling sa C & D classes din pero naka-ahon gamit ang abilidad at tyaga.
Ang atin pong ibang mga OFWs na ating tagapagtangkilik ay galing sa D class na kumakayod ngayon para umangat sa C at B class. Sila po ang may kapangyarihan na maipamumud ang ating mga gintong ideya na ating namimina dito. Angiba naman po ay mga immigrant na gumada na rin ang buhay at nagpalit nang passport, pero ang puso po ay nasa Pilipinas pa rin.
Ang atin din pong ibang mga tagapagtangkilik ay mga empleyado ng gobyerno, na karamihan ay nasa C class at ang iba ay nasa D class ay sila po ang isa sa mga target ng ating forum:
1-Sila po ang may munting kapangyarihan na maisulong ang mga pagbabago sa kalakaran ng gobyerno.
2-Alam nila po na sila rin ay biktima na kurap na kalakaran, subalit dahil sa kahirapan ay mahina po silang lumangoy salungat sa agos dahil po mahalaga sa kanila ang trabaho at kikitain na ipapakain sa kanilang pamilya.
3-Alam po ng karamihan sa kanila na sa hanay nila ilan lang ang talagang nakikinabang sa kurapsyon at karamihan sa kanila ay latak lang ang nakukuha, at napipilitan lang na kunin ang parte nila dahil sa pangangailangan at pag survive sa kanilang pwesto para di tanggalin sa trabaho. Ang iba naman po ay talagang nilamon na ng sistema at wala ng konsensya sa pagnanakaw.
4-Pero po kung tatanungin natin ang karamihan sa kanila, gusto rin po nilang baguhin ang sistema.
5-Ang pagbabasa po nila sa mga blog ng tulad ng sa atin ay malaking rebelasyon na may iba palang pamamaraan sa pagtulong sa pagbabago.
6-Kagaya na lang po ng maging source ng mga kababalaghan sa kani-kanilang mga opisina! Ang internet po ay laking tulong sa mga tulad nila na naputol na ang pisi sa kalakaran ng mga insitusyon na kabilang sila. pwede po nilang ibahagi ng walang takot ang mga nalalaman nilang mga kabulukan sa kanilang mga opisia samga blogsites na tulad ng ating CPM!
Kaya ko po ito nababanggit ay dahil sila po ang mga taong makakatulong sa ating mga pinag-uusapan, dahil po ang komponent ng aksyon ay nasa kanila. Yung mga ebidensya ng mga katiwalian ay may paraan silang maibahagi ng hindi sila madidiin pero nakakatulong sila sa ating adhikain na i-reporma ang mga sangay ng gobyerno! Sila po ang mga karagdagang sa Mga Bagong Bayani!
Kaya po balikan natin ang nakaraan. Noon pong Corona trial, nalabel po tayo na mga Yellow Army dahil sa akala po ng mga makakontra Aquino ay ang laban po natin ay partisan.
After po ng Corona trial at napatalsik si Corona, at pinagpatuloy natin talakayin ang iba pang isyus kabilang na ang mga palpak sa Aquino Administration, napagtanto ko na parang ang dating nga po natin ay Yellow Army o Noytards ! Bakit po, dahil po parang iwas-na-iwas tayong tuligsain kung may kakulangan si Aquino at kanyang administrasyon. Ako po ay nabahala dahil ang alam ko po karamihan sa atin ay maki-Aquino pero mas mahal po natin ang ating bayan kaysa sa mga personalidad! Para pong pag ang tingin natin kay Aquino ay Santo at hindi Tao, eh para pong ipinapagkanulo po natin ang ating pagkatao at adhikain na mareporma ang gobyerno! Ang menshae ko po ay pwede po nating batikusin kahit na po kakampi natin pag sila po ay nagkakamali!
Bakit po? Dahil po ang atin pong katungkulan bilang mamamayan ay maging fiscalizer at tagapuna ng mga katiwaliang nangyayari sa ating gobyerno at bayan.
Bakit po? Dahil ang atin pong Mainstream Media na tinaguriang 4th State, na ating huling inaasahang taga-pagtanggol, ay matagal na pong natutulog at na-hijacked na po ng mga Big Business na nakikipagsabwatan sa ating mga Kurap na mga Mambabatas, Senador, Ehekutibo, Hidikatura, mga LGUs at iba pa pong sangay ng lipunan para maisakatuparan ang kanilang pagkamal ng salapi at kapangyariang makontrol ang mga importanteng mensahe at kaganapan sa ating bansa!
Kaya po ng mahalata ko sa ating CPM na ang iba sa atin at may nakikisawsaw pa pong banyaga na mag- impluensya kung papano ang ating doktrina sa pag-tuligsa sa ating mga Public Servants, eh pinili po nilang ipagsaksakan sa kaisipan natin na mas maigi hwag natin ikritiko si Aquino dahil po baka magbenipisyo ang kanyang mga Kalaban sa Pulitika at baka mailukluk si Binay! Hinugot ko po sa aking pag-iisip at kalooban kung ito po bang ang tamang stratehiya ang santuhin si Aquino dahil po sa wala po tayong tiwala sa collevtive wisdom ng ating mamamayan na ipaglaban ang ating karapatang maglahad ng ating mga opinyon at kriticismo sa ating mga Pinuno sa gobyerno at iba pang makapangyarihang tao na ating mga naging kakampi sa ibang larangan ng labanan at adhikain tulad ng Tuwid na Daan?
Ang sagot po ng aking konsensya ay mali po na tayo po ay may sinasanto! Dapat po lahat ay pwedeng tuligsain! Mga kalaban ni Aquino, o mga Kakampi ni Aquino, o kahit na si Aquino mismo ay dapat tuligsain kung kinakailangan! At kahit po tayo-tayo ay dapat pong magtuligsaan kung sa tingin po natin ay ang iba po sa atin ay mali ang landas na tinatahak! Ito po ang doktrinang ibinebenta ko dahil ito po ay pang matagalan! Pagkatapos po ni Aquino, meron na naman pong papalit na sa una ay pwede nating kakampi at pag naglaon eh pwede ring di na ang interes ng bayan ang prayoridad kundi ang pansarili at ng kanyang pamilya, o iba pang masamang gawain na kawawa o dehado ang kapakanan ng ating bayan! Mas nararapat na sa una pa lang alam ng karamihang bisita ng CPM o mga taga-komento na kung ano ang collective strategy natin para tayo ay mas epektibo sa mga darating pang laban. Ang doktrinang binebenta ko ay pangkalahatan at di partisan kunid kapakan ng ating bayan at iba ay pangalawa lamang!
Nagtataka lang po ako lung bakit ang iba nating mga kababayan na mga matatalino naman at may pinag-aralan eh mas pinipili pa ang idea ng kulang na pansin na dayuhan, na nagdu-dunong dunungan na akala mo eh pinag-daanan ang ating mga sakripisyo sa pagigiging Pilipino, at binebenta pa ang kanyang sarili na mas makabayan pero ni di po naman naging Pilipino kahit isang saglit lang! Nakaka dismaya po dahil pati ba naman sa labanang makabayan eh mas pinipili pa ang paraan at ideya ng kulang sa pansin na banyaga?
Ano ba naman yan pati pala sa larangan ng Patritismo at Reporma eh kailangan pa natig umasa sa ‘Import’, akala ko limitado lang yan sa PBA? Hindi ko po masisi yung banyaga dahil yun po ang kanyang adhikain na manghikayat ng mga tagasunod sa kanyang ideya, ma-abilidad nga po at ginagamit pa itong blog ni Raissa sa paghihikayat pero ganon po talaga, marunong mang-gamit! Sana naman po magkaron ng sariling Pride ang ating ibang mga matatalinong kababayan na pwede po silang tumayo sa sarili nilang paa na walang alalay ng banyaga. Bakit po? Dahil po sa larangan ng Patriotismo at Nationalismo, eh di po nangangailangan ng matangkad na banyaga po dyan, dahil po Tayo po Mismong mga Pilipino ang may kakayahan na katutubo na dumadaloy sa ating dugo at pag-iisip at di na po natin kailangan ang kaisipan at dugo ng banyaga!
Kaya po ako ay naging Provocateur o Agitator, pero po ang adhikain ay painitin ang inyong mga damdamin at kaisipan na mabuksan sa bagong pag-iisip at pamamaraan sa pagpatupad ng ating adhikain na i-reporma ang ating bansa, simula sa balitaktakan at may katugmang aksyon para sa kapakanan ng ating bayan at hindi ng sinumang personalidad!
Tayo po ay nabansagang Pearl of the Orient Seas! kaya po ang isa sa aking pamamaraan ay kalusin ng konti ang inyong mga kaisipan at damdamin dahil po ito ang paraan para mabuo ang Perlas sa ating mga kabibing nagsisilbing bahay ng ating isip at puso!
Kaya po inuulit ko, ako po ay Revolutionary at Thought Provocateur!
Parekoy
PS
Kahit po ako ay hwag nyo pong santuhin at kung meron akong mgapagkukulang o sa tingin nyo ay may kamalian, eh ipaalam nyo po sa anumang pamamaraan dahil ang isip ko po ay bukas sa kriticismo dahil alam ko po na isang epektibong feedback mechanism yan paramas lalo pa tayong mapalawak ang pang-unawa!
Yung pong blind item na banyaga na nag-dudunung-dunungan eh itago na lang po natin sa pangalan na Tito Joejoe !
duquemarino says
@parekoy, sumakit ang mata ko sa pagbasa, but it is worth it. Ito ang reason kung bakit Cyber Plaza Miranda (CPM) and naging bansag sa forum ng blog site ni Raissa.
Plaza Miranda used to be known as venue for public opinion where people often held debates and protest rallies. Even President Ramon Magsaysay, everytime his government had policy issues, would ask, “Can we defend it in Plaza Miranda?”
Merong nagsabi na ang parliament of the street ay napangibabawan na ng parliament of the social media, kaya naman ang CPM ay isa sa mabisang venue sa palitan ng opinion.
Ako mismo at maraming natututunan dito bagama’t hindi rin sumasang-ayon sa iba. But I respect their opinion as they have respected mine.
duquemarino says
This time, PNoy would be asking, “Can we defend that in Cyber Plaza Miranda?”
Parekoy says
I like that! Kumbaga maging standard kung papasa sa ating masusing pagsusuri!
NHerrera says
@Parekoy
Marami sa sinulat mo ay mahirap bali-iwalahin kasi may laman na tutuo sa sinumang gumagamit ng ulo, mapa A, B, C, D o E man. Yuon lang ang isipan ng tao sa pakiwari ko ay may kaibahan. Yan ang kagandahan ng utak natin. Yan ang kagandahan ng forum na CPM — nakakabasa ng opinyon na nakaka lawig ng isipan at natututo.
Mapupuna mo naman na maraming isinusulat mo dito ay bilib ang marami sa CPM — pero hindi naman lahat. Ako isa doon. Tagahanga mo ako. Hindi naman sa lahat ng bagay. Noon sinulat mo na revolution ang solution, sinabi ko na iba ang pagiisip ko at sinabi ko kung bakit. Iba ang pagiisip natin doon.
Marami pa sana akong sasabihin pero nahihirapan ako sa wika. (Bisaya ako, ang misis ko tagadito sa metro manila kaya natututo narin ng kunti.) Ayukong magenglis. Sa usaping ito maganda ang labas ng wika natin na hindi makuha ng englis.
Salamat sa isinulat mo.
PS
Mayroon lang akong idadagdag. Sa akin opinyon, kung may idadagdag naman ang banyaga na may masasabi hindi naman masama na pakingan. Akoy nagaral sa ibang bansa. Hindi ko sinasamba yong lahat ng ginagawa nila, pero meron naman akong natutunan sa kanila.
Pasensya ka na ang sulat ko sa wika ay kailangang paplantsahin ng maigi para maintidihan.
Salamat uli sa sinulat mo.
NHerrera says
Kung madagdag ko lang ito. Ang ama ng lolo ko sa panig ng nanay ko ay tunay na intsik. Sana naman maintidihan dito sa CPM na hindi maka-intsik ang mga sulat ko dito, kahit may kunting lahi ako. Yuon lang.
moonie says
si presidente aquino nga rin, his ancestry can be traced back to southern china. traced when he first assumed the presidency, 4th, 5th generation yata siya. nabasa ko yan sa abs-cbnnews.com.
kaso lang, aquino is not pro-chinese, his policies more so, kaya the chinese in his family tree currently still living in a village dont want to know anything about him.
arghel says
Maidagdag ko lang po sa inyong mga salaysay… tanggapin po nawa natin na ang karamihan po sa ating mga kababayan ay di nagbabasa at nagsasaliksik kaya po karamihan ng kanilang mga idelohiya at pananaw ay kung ano lang ang narinig nila sa tv o nakita nila sa mga komento sa mga sikat na page ng GMA at Channel 2. kung baga po e nakikisabay lang sa agos na nakakalungkot kung ating pagninilay nilayan. kung baga po napakadali nilang paikutin o i-brainwash.
At ang ating pinakasikat na mga tv stations ay di rin naman nagiging responsable sa kanilang mga tungkulin. Ang pinakamaganda po ay magkaroon tayo ng programa na sana lahat tayo dito sa CPM ay ipaalam sa ating mga CDE classes na kababayan kung ano talaga ang tutuo.
Marami pong salamat!
(Kung si Tito Joejoe naman po ang ating kukutyain, sa tingin ko po mas Pilipino pa nga siya sa iba sa atin.)
Parekoy says
Totoo yun dahil din yan sa kung ano lang ang available na inihahain sa kanila ng mainstream media eh yun lang ang kanilang limitadong pagpilian.
Kaya nga nabanggit ko na mahikayat natin ang mga empleyado sa gobyerno na makiisa sa atin. Isowalat nila ang mga konkretong impormasyon ng mga kurapsyon na kanilang nalalaman sa kanilang mga opisina at siguradong malakimang kanilang kontribusyon sa mga reporma sa gobyerno. Ala-Whistle Blower!
Hindi ko hinihikayat na kutyain ang banyaga, ang hinihingi ko lang ay tanungin muna natin kung tayo ba ay na-brainwash din dahil sa colonial mentality at wala tayong bilib sa sarili? Pero kung may mapapakinabangan bakit hindi.
Parekoy says
NHerrera,
Salamat sa iyong sagot!
Yung patunkol sa banyaga ay isang obserbasyon ko na mukhang hanggang ngayon ay tinitingala pa rin natin ang mga Kano! At ang pinuntirya ko ay ang sobrang pangingilag natin na kontrahin ang mga sinasabi nila kahit na alam nating nanghihimasok at wala na sa hupog ang mga pinagsasabi, ay para bang nahihiya pa tayong pansinin o di kaya sabihan, eh patuloy pa nating kinukunsunti! Dala pa siguro to ng ating pinagdaanan na may colonial mentality.
Ang isang di ko mapalagpas ay ang pagbastos sa ating kababayan na si Laude at ang isa pa ay paghikayat sa ating hwag tuligsain si PNoy at binibili rin naman ng mga kababayan nating mga inaasahan nating may sariling talino pero nagiging parang sunod-sunuran sa banyaga!
At kung titingin tayo sa sarili natin, kailangan ba natin talaga ang banyaga na turuan tayo kung papaano ang pamamaraan sa Patriotismo at Nationalismo? Parang may mali at di maako ng aking pakiramdam…
uprightbike says
May laman at kabuluhan ang mgs sinasabi mo. Bakit nga ba sasantuhin ang isang lider politika gayung sa ating pagtahak sa landas ng pagbabago ay dapat yapakan ang dapat yapakan. At yakapin ang dapat yakapin.
Subalit bahagya akong nabahala sa lundo ng huling bahagi ng iyong panulat.
Kanino ba nakatuun ang diwa ng iyong panulat? Kay Pnoy na hindi dapat santuhin o kay dayuhang TitoJoeJoe.
Gayunpaman, iwinawagayway ko ang aking paghanga sa iyong pagsulat.
Parekoy says
Salamat Duke!
Yapakan ang dapat yapakan, yakapin ang apat yakapin!
Bow ako jan! Tough but fair!
Rene-Ipil says
Sa maiksing pananalita ay huwag nating santuhin si PNoy. Tama si Parekoy. At wala naman akong napansin na sinuman sa CPM na sumasanto kay PNoy. Marami sa CPM, kasama na ako, ay sumusuporta kay PNoy bilang mahusay na pangulo kumpara sa mga nakaraan. Marami rin sa atin ay tutol sa ibang ginawa ni PNoy. Kaya lang ay dinadaan sa pagbibigay ng tamang payo sa halip na batikusin bilang pagbibigay galang sa pangulo. Ngunit magkatulad din ang layunin na ipaalam kay PNoy ang kanyang kamalian.
Si JoeAm naman ay todo suporta rin kay PNoy. Subalit bilang banyaga ay hindi niya maaaring batikusin si PNoy tulad ng ginagawa ng mga Pinoy. Ganun din tayong mga Pinoy kapag nasa ibang bansa. Marami akong napulot na kapaki-pakinabang mula kay JoeAm at Parekoy. At marami rin akong iwinaksi sa mga kaisipan at pananaw na isinulat nila dito sa CPM. Sapagkat may sarili akong kaisipan na marahil ay mas malawak at malalim kaysa kanila ayon sa aking pagsusuri at sariling pananaw. At sa mga sinasabi natin dito sa CPM ay mapapagtanto kung ano mayroong kaalaman, kaisipan at paguugali ang bawat isa sa atin.
Mabuhay at magpatuloy ka, Parekoy.
Parekoy says
Tatlo ang aking mensahe:
1. Hikayatin ang ating mga kababayang empleyado sa gobyerno na maging intrumento sa pagbabago.
2. Walang dapat sasantuhing mga personalidad.
3. Magdalawang isip bago maniwala sa mga sinsabi ng banyaga pagdating sa usaping makabayan, nasyonalismo, at patriyotismo!
Ako rin ay humahanga sa mga kontribusyon mo sa CPM, katulad ng mga ibang walang pagdamot ng iba na maihayag ang kanilang pag-iisip at damamin na nakakatulong sa iba nating mga kababayan na maliwanagan sa usaping pambansa!
Salat at mabuhay ka rin!
arghel says
Sumasang ayon ako sa iyong adhikain Mr. Parekoy and may this create the ripple effect that would transform our great nation. For we now have a revolution, a revolution of the mind. Wag po sanang maiwan ang ating mga kaawa-awang CDE na laging pinagsasamantalahan ng mga ganid at corrupt. Mabuhay po ang ating bayan. Salamat po.
Joe America says
@Rene-Ipil, although you correctly read that my support of President is founded on principle, it is not the principle that, as an American, I cannot criticize the President. It is rather that of a reformed American who used to spend his days in the best “Get Real” tradition criticizing to the left and criticizing to the right. Then a gentleman by the handle of manuelbuencamino spent several months at my blog pounding at my misconceptions with the simple idea that “there is a lot good going on here if you drop your American preconceptions”.
He was right. There is. And now I see it even when Filipinos too easily fall to grousing, or extending from one incident to write an entire picture of someone, and so I knowingly push against that scenario, hoping that more will come to see their nation in a positive light. The Philippines is rising, believe it or not. The sadness is that Filipinos can’t seem to grab hold of the reason why (stability), and instead undermine their own President, and their nation’s rise. President Aquino is a rock of stability and calm and due process (“get the facts, Ramos, then make whatever argument you wish”) while everyone else is headless chickens (credit to Andrew Lim for the characterization).
So, yes, I write from a principled view, that the Philippines is a place to be proud of.
If some have problems with that, well . . . hey . . . what can I say?
arghel says
Thank you Mr. Joe for defending our President and I hope we’ll be able to be proud of him and his achievements. The CDE classes do not know the real accomplishments of this admin for in the President’s refusal to trumpet the gains, all the people knew is he is TAMAD, WALANG ALAM, MABAGAL, NANALO LANG DAHIL SA AMA’T INA.
Joe America says
Yes indeed, arghel. For me, the evidence of his good works and results is so overwhelming, I get dismayed that people can’t seem to balance that against the mistakes he makes. Mistakes any human, unable to see the future or obtain all information, are going to make. This idea of anger toward mistakes . . . as if it were personally offensive to us . . . is sad to see. Are we SURE this is a Catholic nation? I guess I heard the Pope differently.
arghel says
Isn’t his 2nd and 3rd paragraph enough proof that he is more Filipino than most of us?
Parekoy says
Aquino’s opponent are undermining him as I already stated in my other comments, but it does not mean Filipinos will be holding-off our criticisms because of “FEAR of Instability!”. Republicans did that in the US as if they criticized Bush they are unpatriotic! This was peddled by Bush Propagandists and talking heads in FOX news and you might unwittingly adopte that strategy! But here we are criticizing and asking question for the quest of truth, responsibility, accountability, and justice, and no opposition or foreigner can take that away from us!
We also know that if ever Aquino is found guilty thru command responsibility and even gave conlicting orders in the operation which resulted in the death SAF44, then we as citizens will evaluate how the gravity of his failure if any, then that is another subject to be debated on what is the punishment that fits his crime if any! Most likely, we trust our Filipino collective wisdom than yours, Mr. Foreigner! in mattersof our own country! So please don’t treat us like kids!
arghel says
I get your point Mr. Parekoy, but you are comparing our democracy to the US which is the most matured democracy while ours is a fragile one. We have made that mistake in ERAP’s time, of replacing a duly elected President and look at what GLORIA did.
Let us be the voice in the wilderness and let’s give our country a chance to move forward. Let’s not be part of this mob going for the kill.
I know he is not one of us but I can discern when one is truly sincere. It’s just another perspective and we can contradict him anytime we like.
Parekoy says
You already bought Joeam’s offer of FEAR!
Don’t fear my friend, Aquino is well-secured, no coup can oust him!
Trust our collective wisdom, it is alright to ask questions and try find out the truth. Don’t hold back because others like Aquino’s opponents have different intent! Aquino can defend his administration from the destabilizers, but he also has an obligation to provide us with the truth.
If he is found guilty of not sending reinforcements to the fallen SAF 44 then we know that the opposition wants to oust him, but I believe the Filipino People are wise and know the stakes-we will just reprimand him, and he will finish his term!
All that coup-talk, coup plots will fizzle and go dud! Why? Lacking the support of our people, the Generals and High Ranking Officers will just sit tight and not gamble their life for the opportuinistic grabbers.
The danger is when Aquino is fed-up and becomes irrational and declare State of Emergency!
Joeam is only sincere to himself. He is quite successful though in luring some of our supposedly educated netizens, but not me, I can rely on myself, I can rely on my countrymen when it comes to matters of Nationalism and Patriotism, I am proud of our collective ability and in my judgment we don’t need a foreigner to rely on to steer the conversation towards a better Philippines. I find it insulting when we ourselves know our history, experienced the actual sufferrings, and we just bow down to a foreigner to matters that is the heart of reforming our country?
Others might have their own reasons why they feed Joeam’s ego, maybe some of them look-up for foreigners even matters of Nationalism and Patriotism, and if they are smart enough they should know the basics that Foreigners are not welcome to meddle in other country’s politics, and that is universal!
Siguro naman, di na kailangan ang matangkad dito, may sarili naman tayong pag-iisip, may pinag-aralan din, at siguro naman eh panahon na itigil na ang kasisipsip sa mga Kano at dayuhan!
Sincere? If you dig to his past comments from various sites, you can weigh his sincerity through his postings…You know why he was kickout from other blogsites? Arrogance and not accepting his mistakes! He has freedom of speech and I have freedom to rebut him when I think he is already out of line in CPM and putting him in his place and remind him that he is a foreigner and this is not his fight! It is ours and nobody can hijacked it from us!
Huwag mong masamain pero para maintindihan mo, heto ang mga halimbawa:
1. Away mag-asawa ito, tapos bigla na lang makikisawsaw ang isang di kapamilya sa away ng mag-asawa at kung ano-ano ng pinagsasabi para masolve ang away ng mag-asawa, tama ba yun?
2. Problema ng mga Amerkano, tapos nakisawsaw ang isang Pilipino sa usaping political ng Amerkano, ano sa tingin mo ang sasabihin ng mga Amerkano? Heto, “Could you please mind your own business!
3. Problema natin tapos may isang Chinese Blogger na nakikisawsaw sa ating usaping political, ano ang sasabihin ng mga kababayan natin? Ano ang sasabihin mo?
arghel says
I am not buying anybody’s offer. I mentioned Gloria because i was in EDSA DOS not because of Joeam. And I have to live with that decision… a wrong one.
Anyway, I get Raissa’s message loud and clear. Thanks
chit Navarro says
Cyber Pmaza Miranda came about as the name of the group that populates Raissa’s blog, irrespective of race, creed, colour, status. Each is free to write his / het own opinion, tama man ang english o hindi.
CPM is a debate area and ee are here to ecpress our own opinions and not a popularity pagr of who gets the most comment on her/His post. If you are referring to Joe America as the banyaga, I believe ge is not here to “manghikayat sa kanyang adhikain”. If I agree with his viewpoint, its because we may look at an issue on the same wavelength.
As far as I know, no one had detined the target audience of Raissa’s blog. I myself have always advocated that these articles should reavh those wjo are in the market for their votes – para nanan sana mabago ang mga opisyales ng gobyerno natin – hindi artista o singet o ewan.
Parekoy says
Somebody defined the target audience pf Raissa’s blog…guess who?
http://raissarobles.com/2015/02/05/the-lighter-side-of-oplans/comment-page-1/#comment-249188
That is why I am trying to correct ignorance from some foo….reigner…
Joe America says
@ Chit, Some years ago, I was dismayed at the state of blogging in the Philippines. The main socio/political blog was “Filipino Voices”, and one could go there and find every perspective in the book argued by smart people who just came at things differently. Mostly it was respectful, but often not. Then a few people got upset and split off to form their own blogs. Mostly anti-Philippines. Filipino Voices faded. and Raissa’s blog was brought to my attention by writers there who were jealous of her successes. So I started reading but not commenting much. Time went on. I got thrown out of the anti blogs and started doing my own.
It occurred to me that the blogging community would be healthier, and stronger, if bloggers supported one another rather than acted as jealous rivals. So I started participating here with that in mind. Yes, for exposure for my blog, too, but also to offer up original ideas as they struck me here. Because I want Raissa’s site to be popular, active, and a place for good information and good ideas. I also set up a little web site called “The Blog Center” which features updates on about 20 blogs in the Philippines to try to help with the cause – build a vibrant blogging community.
Amongst us, there are dividers, and there are those who unify around good thinking. We are stronger unified than divided, and your expression is one that unifies.
Thanks.
BFD says
Now, that’s a classic retort when you are being vilified constantly, respectful yet firm.
arghel says
We can agree to disagree and not put anybody down. So that this group do not become another “crab bucket.”
chit navarro says
my apologies for all the spelling errors….
his/her instead f his/het
we instead of ee; express instead of ecpress; page instead of pagr
ge instead of he
defined -not detined
should be: = these articles should be read by those who are in the market for their votes – para naman sana mabago ang mga opislayes ng gobyerno natin = hindi artista or singer o ewan.
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i promise not to use my android anymore for paragraphs. one-liners maybe…
jcmqatar says
“Ang sagot po ng aking konsensya ay mali po na tayo po ay may sinasanto! Dapat po lahat ay pwedeng tuligsain! Mga kalaban ni Aquino, o mga Kakampi ni Aquino, o kahit na si Aquino mismo ay dapat tuligsain kung kinakailangan!”
Ako ay Isandaang porsiyento na sang-ayon sa iyo @Parekoy, ang pag-puna sa mga maling gawain ng ibang tao o ni PNoy ay hindi nangangahulugan na galit tayo sa kanila o sa kanya…ang mga maling gawain at ginagawa nila ang ating tinutuligsa at hindi ang kanilang pagkatao.
Alam kong ito ang layunin ni Ma’am Raissa at karamihan sa atin dito. ang mga makatotohanang nakasulat sa site na ito ang aking binabahagi sa ating mga kababayan tuwing nagtatanong sila ng balita. mga isyung may basehan na hindi nila mababasa o mapapanood sa mga nangungunang pahayagan at istasyon ng telebisyon…
raissa says
Mabuhay si Parekoy!
Parekoy says
b>That is the best vote of confidence I need from the blog owner herself!
Thank you Raissa!
yvonne says
Yes, @Parekoy, Raissa has spoken and she is heard. Her words carry a big stick.
:-)
Parekoy says
Great!
I understand that she approves clearly that in our CPM, which she owns,
There are no Sacred Cows Here! Even ourselves! …
That is a clear doctrine that will be a compass for all of us and others who will be joining us in the future!
arghel says
COPY… Loud and clear !
netty says
Ahhaaha, uy PAREKOY, VALENTINE’S DAY IS REALLY 365 days, so makaka iskor ka nyan kay MArekoy kahit di mo sya binigyan ng flower, ikaw ang bibigyan nya ng flowers, for standing up for yourself in the midst of friendly fire. Si MAREkoy namanI am sure is always standing by her man.
No kidding here. About hedonism, what makes us angry , what makes us unhappy gives us the energy and courage to push for change. If you are happy and no one is in opposition with you , you won’t make the effort to be more passionate and patriotic. Likewise with PNOY, if we /the people are too happy/ contented with him as a leader then people, all of us wouldn’t be voicing our malcontent, push for more changes for the whole nation and its people. Happiness is also a condition that encourages laziness, while anger here directed to PNOY, MAMASAPANO ET AL can become a positive episode if both emotions are rightly directed for the better.
vander anievas says
ako ay para sa katotohanan.
kaya nga naririto ako sa CPM.
alam ko namang lahat tayo ay may pagmamahal sa bansa natin.
siguro nasasaatin na ang pagsukat sa antas na iyan ng pagmamahal.
at kung ako rin po ay may maling naisulat at inyo ring punahin, with all my heart, tanggap ko yun.
kaya nga madalas na echo ako ni parekoy.
basa sa kanyang mga katha ang makatotohanang paghahayag…
ako po ay kumikilala rin sa buting iniaambag ng dayuhan dito. lalo na sa kalinangan at teknolohiya.
caliphman says
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/118745/us-behind-oplan-exodus/
Hard to believe Inquirer would publish a ‘top’ story like this unless they had corroboration. But if they did, why not mention it in the article. If this story is true, then the chain of command had the US on top who then ended up sending SAF on a suicide mission. In addition, Napenas committed perjury about US involvement with his lawyer by his side. Is Inquirer now competing with the Standard and Manila Times for best scandal sheet or did an enormous other shoe just drop on the floor?
Joe America says
The Inquirer will publish single sources, unconfirmed, and in top spot if it meets their criteria for publication. The number one criterion is “shock value”. The number two criterion is “ability to generate more juicy conflict”. The 78th criterion is “factually correct”.
sykes says
clearly, in this case, two heads are not better than one :(
NHerrera says
STILL ON MAMASAPANO — ON CONTEXT, BLAME, OR EXONERATION
This is a story that makes sense to me:
http://joeam.com/2015/02/15/mamasapano-who-was-at-fault-and-why/
Joe America says
@NHerrera, I appreciate that you walk your own path. More power to you.
BFD says
Yeah, this blog articles cuts right through so you can understand where every player in Mamasapano were at the time before, during and maybe after the SAF 44 massacre.
Rene-Ipil says
Napeñas said that he did not coordinate with the MILF because he did not trust the rebels and that he was not required to inform them by virtue of existing guidelines. He cited pertinent portion of the Implementing Guidelines on the Joint Communique of 6 May 2002 which reads:
“VI. Mechanics of Implementation
6. Except for operations against high priority targets, a list of which shall be provided by the GPH Panel to the MILF Panel, the AHJAG shall inform the GPH and the MILF CCCH at least 24 hours prior to the conduct of the AFP/PNP operations in order to allow sufficient time for the evacuation of civilians and to avoid armed confrontation between the GPH and MILF forces.”
Napeñas was referring to the document signed by Marvic Leonen of the GPH and Mohagher Iqbal of the MILF on 15 February 2012 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. The said document relates to law enforcement operation (LEO) against criminals in MILF territories.
The government peace panel through General Orense of the Ad Hoc Joint Action Group (AHJAG) contended that coordination with MILF was needed citing surprisingly the same document. Orense explained that while LEO against common criminals requires no less than 24 hours prior coordination, that of high priority target (HPT) requires also prior coordination but in less than 24 hours to allow evacuation of civilians.
My understanding is that the general rule requires prior coordination regarding LEO against all criminals for no less than 24 hours to provide enough time for evacuation of civilians. For HIgh Priority Targets like Marwan, there is no need for a prior coordination even for LESS than 24 hours. It is enough that AHJAG knows that Marwan was a high priority target. It is illogical to conduct prior coordination one hour before the LEO. Moreso in ten minutes or less before the LEO which is not a violation of the rules. How could the civilians evacuate in ten minutes or less?
The definition of a high priority target explains the reason for exempting such person from the general rules.
“High Priority Target- is the classification of a target for law
enforcement operation wherein the apprehension and arrest of a person or
individual who is in the wanted list would seriously degrade the functions of a
criminal or terrorist organization.”
This means that PNoy as Chief Executive and concurrent Chief PNP was right in approving the LEO to get Marwan without prior coordination with the MILF. PNoy did not violate the peace agreement. It was just unfortunate that the Mamasapano battle happened as a consequence of the LEO against Marwan. Death among the SAF and MILF was factored in the OPLAN.
But it was not expected that the army would deny the beleaguered SAF commandos the necessary support. This is despite the directive of the president to provide the necessary support to SAF and the personal requests for support made by Napeñas and Espina. Not to mention the same request from Purisima. The army explained that they would be violating the peace agreement in providing artillery fire early on.
It appears that the explanation of the army does not hold water. Their actuation could not be born by ignorance. The CSAFP and CPNP are both signatories to the Joint AFP/PNP Operational Guidelines for AHJAG on July 13, 2013 which contains the exact provision of the rule stated above. HEADS MUST ROLL.
https://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/254664166?access_key=key-1dgNGUkWl4cySSHwhKFG
sykes says
@rene-ipil
but Deles clarified that in the implementing rules, coordination is still required. even though it said on the agreement it isn’t needed.
yup. their explanations tend to get murky at times. and here i thought they were careful with every step they took in crafting this agreement.
not sure for whose sake though.
moonie says
deles is singing for her supper and insinuating herself in the chain of command. she seemed desperate and wants bbl passed at all cost. leaving its passage for the next president to do is dicey, bbl might be shelved and deles will lose more than face, her hard work unfulfilled.
Rene-Ipil says
Maybe the reason why the legislators accuse Deles of lawyering for MILF.
duquemarino says
Mukhang lumilinaw any involvement ng America as Mamasapano carnage.
phdotnewsdotyahoodotcom
American claiming $5-M Marwan reward
An American working as a “political consultant” in California is demanding that he be given the $5-million informant’s reward for the arrest or capture of Zulkifli bin Hit, alias Marwan.
Marcus Allen Freshman, in the news report, claims he brought along copies of faxed letters, email exchanges with certain US Department functionaries and a photocopy of a document – purportedly with the letterhead of the MILF – as among the evidence for his claim to the Marwan reward money. Apparently, he has told the Philippine Star his story.
Ano kaya ang katotohanan dito? Denial? Confirmation?
David says
I would not take this guy, nor his claim too serious. There are a lot of fraudsters trying to make a quick buck in the states. I think this is the same guy that saw Elvis Presley last week in a Dunkin doughnut shop in Seal Beach, California but could not sell Elvis’s autograph. Perhaps he woke up too early, found there were not enough marshmallows on his Fruit Loop cereal, and devised a scheme to milk the govt for some more money.
leona says
In the US, for what I remember, REWARDS are with ‘conditions,’ like:
1. ‘Information leading to the arrest/capture of _ _ _ _, a reward of $5M.’ or
2. ‘Reward will be given for the capture of arrest of this WANTED _ _ _ person.’ Etc.
The ‘American’ claiming $5-M reward ‘DID NOT ARREST or CAPTURE’ Marwan? [No. 1]
Or did he gave INFORMATION leading to the arrest or capture? [No. 2]
Ask ex-pnp supt. PurrisMama for ‘advice’ so as to be ‘advised’ on this matter.
sykes says
sus. nasobrahan lang ng bath salt yan :)