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Fact-checking Vidal’s retraction

by Raïssa Robles

The breaking news social networking site Twitter is now abuzz with reports that Cebu Archbishop Cardinal Ricardo Vidal has retracted his earlier statement calling for President Benigno Aquino’s resignation.

Miriam Grace Go of Rappler explained that “Vidal wants Aquino held accountable for Mamasapano, but not calling for his resignation.”

Gigi Go then posted on her Facebook page:

To readers who are asking why Cebu Archbishop Vidal is “retreating” from his supposed previous call for President Aquino to resign, and why Rappler’s article was “protecting” Aquino, here’s the story:

Members of the NTC visited the Cebu cardinal last Friday with a prepared, strongly-worded statement, calling for the President to resign. Copies of it and a press release were distributed to Manila journalists beforehand. When Vidal saw the statement he was being asked to read, he had it revised and he omitted the line calling for Aquino’s resignation. He instead just said that the President should be held accountable for the Mamasapano incident.

Rappler reporter Dale Israel was in the room — in Cebu — while all this was going on. He and other Cebu journalists saw how NTC PR people tried to steer the press conference when Vidal didn’t take the group’s hardline position. These Cebu journalists, hindi sila nag-“cover” lang ng press release sa Maynila.

If that is what had happened, how do you now account for the YouTube video posted by ABS-CBNews.com over the weekend. It has Vidal saying out loud:

“Various assemblies convened by the National Transformation Council NTC has strongly advocated that the President should step down.

Recent developments have made this call even more urgent and imperative.”

That very much sounds like a demand from Cardinal Vidal for Aquino to step down.

The same report identified him as the chairman of the National Transformation Council – which he is also denying. If he is not the NTC chair, why then did he read aloud the report?

Please watch the YouTube video below which was pointed out to me by one of my Twitter friends @rejtatel, who is also a long-time member of Cyber Plaza Miranda –

I wonder what had happened to make Cardinal Vidal backtrack.

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Joe America

The knowledge that his church is on a headlong drive to irrelevance by being tied to crooks and malcontents. I’m betting the CBCP political bishops have the same awakening soon, judging from the hostility being directed their way for intruding into the affairs of state so crassly. How quickly these Philippine bishops turned on the message of Saint Francis. I am sure Cardinal Tagle is beside himself with shame.

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February 16, 2015 4:42 pm
Joe America

ahahaha, Pope Francis. well, he knows no one is perfect, and besides, in time . . .

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February 16, 2015 4:43 pm
JBL

Jesuits like Francis

Took the vow of poverty, in addition to chastity and obedience.

They do not get to keep their salaries because of their vow of poverty, but live instead on an allowance from the community.

Cardinals Tagle and Vidal belong to the “Bwusit” Order! LOL

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February 16, 2015 7:57 pm
filipino_mom

the internet will, ultimately, be the death of the church. more and more people learn of their crooked ways, and more and more people are seeing the light and realize that the church has been leading them into the dark for the longest time.

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February 17, 2015 8:27 am
Parekoy
I was awed when I saw the actual Gutenberg Bible at Yale Rare Books Library! It was the key to empowering mankind of availbility of books and took away the power from the ‘Priest’, the learned, and the wealthy from having exclusive access to information! Then Internet came! I was spending money at computer kiosks just to explore the web and saw its great potential of the enormity of info available to mankind and the speed which we can access them! In my limited mind, I saw how the internet could empower ordinary citizens and the changing environment that governments… Read more »
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February 17, 2015 8:50 am
baycas

Aha!

This time, from “coup” to “cuckoo.”

Cycle of blog pists…

:-)

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February 16, 2015 5:17 pm
baycas

That would be “Cycle of the blog posts.”

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February 17, 2015 12:04 am
Kalahari
Assuming Cardinal Vidal did join the voice of many that PNoy should resign due to mamasapano massacre, etc.,I wonder if the millions of catholic faithfuls will be happy for the crooked vp to succeed the incorruptible president and his Daang Matuwid? It has been proven in the past that the voice of the CBCP has been ignored by their flocks unlike the Iglesia ni Manalo whose words are followed to the letter by their congregation. The CBCP should concentrate on the spiritual enlightenment of the diminishing Catholics and stop meddling on the affairs of the state – which many believe… Read more »
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February 16, 2015 5:57 pm
chit navarro

time for Martial Law, part 2?

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February 16, 2015 6:26 pm
JBL

I likey …………………………with (ConCon) change to Parliamentary. Like all the rest of ASEAN

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February 16, 2015 8:12 pm
Gethesame Gardener

Absolutely mockery

Someone should send the youtube video to the Pope and ask why the Pope allows the bishops and cardinals in Philippines to get involved in politics.

Remember what the Pope said : that the church should be like a hospital attending to the sick and the weary.

What is Cardinal Tagle doing ? The Cardinal Tagle should be held liable for what Cardinal Vidal and others like him are doing.If he cannot control his bishops, then he should step down.

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February 16, 2015 6:42 pm
JBL

@ I wonder what had happened to make Cardinal Vidal backtrack.

My educated guess is the Vatican.
Pope Francis belong to the Argentinian Jesuit Order, said to be the rebels of the RCC and allied with the globalist movement. President Benigno S. Aquino III is one of their many Filipino assets in the government.

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February 16, 2015 7:15 pm
jorge bernas

@ JBL,

Maaring tama po kayo pero maaaring hindi dumating ang ipinangakong SUV/PERA kaya bumaliktad/nag retract nang statement o baka nabasa mga comments nang Sambayanan kong paano ito pagsabihan nang kong ano-ano na nakakahiya at nakakadiri o baka ULYANIN NA NGA?

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February 16, 2015 8:03 pm
jorge bernas

Sana kong para sa kabutihan nang lahat ang sasabihin/sinisigaw ni Vidal pero dagdag sa GULO lang ginagawa nito na parang ulyaning matanda…At ano naman kaya Solution ni Vidal kong sakaling magresign si Pnoy?

Ano kaya klasing pinuno nang simbahan itong mga Bishops daw na sumisigaw nang hindi kanais nais, kulang naba kita ninyo o sadyang ginagawa ninyo ito dahil pinahiya kayo noong tumanggap kayo nang SUV/Pera kay GMA. Sana noon pa kayo sumigaw sa time ni GMA dahil yon ang dapat na sigaw…Pero dahil nakinabang kayo ay tameme kayo at bulag sa katutuhanan… Mas gusto ninyo ang mga Magnanakaw at sinungaling…

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February 16, 2015 7:49 pm
duquemarino
Sa tingin ko ginagamit lang ng National Transformation Council si Cardinal Vidal. Vidal just turned 83 and had been in and out of the hospital. Baka naapektuhan na ng gamot ang kaisipan. Pero tingnan nation any bumubuo ng NTC. The Rappler article mentioned the following as present during the gathering: 1. Former senator Francisco Tatad 2. Former national security adviser Norberto Gonzales 3. Former Interior Usec Lito Ruiz Also present at the meeting were: 1. Archbishop Ramon Arguelles of Lipa 2. Bishop Ramon Villena of Bayombong, Nueva Vizcaya 3. Bishop Fernando Capalla of Davao 4. Bishop Filomeno Bactol of Naval… Read more »
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February 16, 2015 8:21 pm
Marmee

Just looking at the “dramatis personae” of this so-called National Transformation Council gives me the shivers.

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February 16, 2015 11:44 pm
Anonymous

Not sure about this, but aren’t some columnists from the Philippine Star (Bobit Avila, Carmen Pedrosa, Federico Pascual, and Jose Sison) also involved in this NTC?

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February 17, 2015 6:52 pm
leona

Some of the cardinals archbishops in the CBCP hierarchy are clearly . . .misseyricordia ! Confused and difficult to deal with. Pityfools.

Catholics and others should ignore them.

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February 16, 2015 8:21 pm
El Bobo de Camino

I agree!

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February 16, 2015 8:42 pm
netty
No, Leona. These arch-biz shops are now affected by the mad cow disease (BSE) after decades of eating beef infected by mad cow disease undetected for years. These men are now suffering from the complications of eating shawarma and shakarma beef steak.Usually they are 65 years old and those affected have nervous, neurological and aggressive behavior. So that explains the behavior,, be wary of them that although they are not infectious by casual contact, anyone close to them would be mind wasting/mentally wasted. That is their sad condition of affairs. Are they still relevant? Only in the PH…. SADLY. Most… Read more »
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February 16, 2015 11:23 pm
filipino_mom

shawarma, @netty? would the bishops even touch those? how about angus and kobe beef? i’m sure that’s what they had. i think they preferred it rare to medium. the better to catch mad cow with.

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February 17, 2015 8:24 am
leona

Yes, you are right again netty@

LET’S CALL THEM NOW HOLEY COWS !

ha ha ha

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February 17, 2015 10:14 pm
Kalahari
Off-topic but relevant: 21 Egyptian Christians beheaded by ISIS in a beach in Libya. Egypt President Sisi vows revenge by sending F-16 jets to bomb ISIS camps, training areas and weapons depot in Libya (CNN today) Jordan promised ‘earth-shaking’ response to ISIS who burned alive a captured Jordanian pilot The western allies are concerned about the reach of the barbarous ISIS in the Middle East, particularly in Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Somalia where they have sizeable followings. Some are afraid that in not-so-distant future, Mindanao could be an ISIS stronghold in Southeast Asia with PNoy vigorously pushing for the passage… Read more »
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February 16, 2015 9:08 pm
BFD

Irrelevant. Next topic please. :-)

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February 16, 2015 10:00 pm
BFD

I mean, Bishop Argue-Less’ video statement

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February 16, 2015 10:02 pm
baycas

Marwan, “Mar-two” (his brother), and Usman (his associate) here in a warrant of arrest:

http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/case_docs/431.pdf

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February 16, 2015 10:15 pm
baycas
Indictment described here: According to the indictment, Zulkifli Abdhir and Rahmat Abdhir communicated with one another between the United States and Philippines, often in code to disguise the nature of their activities, as Zulkifli Abdhir engaged in battles with Philippine troops and evaded capture. Among other things, they discussed items that Zulkifli Abdhir wanted his brother to send him in the Philippines from the United States, including money and accessories for firearms, Insignia two-way radios, backpacks, and knives. According to the indictment, Rahmat Abdhir shipped requested items to his brother in the Philippines using various aliases for the sender and… Read more »
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February 16, 2015 10:23 pm
baycas

@BFD,

You got your wish…

http://raissarobles.com/2015/02/16/marwans-e-mails-show-his-closeness-to-milf-commander-tundok/

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February 17, 2015 12:00 am
yvonne
TIME TO EXPOSE THE CHINESE CONNECTION It is time to expose and to bring front and center the discussions about the Chinese connection to finance terrorist activities in Southern Mindanao to destabilize our government. There have been indications that China has been providing financial support to terrorists in its effort to divert our military attention away from China’s continuing incursions into our territorial waters, and to spread thin our military logistics. Indeed, there has been intelligence reports that Zulkifli Abdhir, aka Marwan, received financial support from China through his Tunisian “facilitator”. And the criminal indictment against Zulkifli Abdhir, issued by… Read more »
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February 16, 2015 10:26 pm
Vhin
China, Malaysia and the US have bigger stakes. Those countries have interests that are important to their national security and future survival. Di natin masisisi kung makialam man ang mga yan directly or indirectly. Those countries will not allow us to become a strong and united country otherwise they can’t get what they want from us. We are on our own ever since. The only way to survive ay magkaisa, which is not a Filipino character but we showed it in 1986 kaya may pag-asa pa. Continue our economic recovery and strengthen it more. PNoy is doing a good job.… Read more »
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February 16, 2015 11:59 pm
Vhin

*magical should be MABAGAL

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February 17, 2015 12:01 am
Parekoy

Eventhough we have some issues with the China (Their Authoritarian Leaders), I still want to greet the Chinese and our Filipino-Chinese Community with a warm,

Gong Xi Fa Cai!

and for the Hongkong People

Gong Hey Fat Choy or Kung hei Fat Choi!

And to our Friends here in CPM who celebrate their Chinese New Year, just say,

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeh…

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Happy Year of the Goat
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PS

Please don’t forget to send me a Tikoy and a Red Envelope, Angpao!

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February 17, 2015 6:05 am
Parekoy
This is a classic case of Disrespectful Meddling!: 1. As much as we appreciate the clergies, being Filipinos, to show their sentiments in our state’s internal affairs, they should respect the Separation of Church and State! as stated in our constitution. 1.1If they want, we they can petition our state and people to revisethe constitution and all Church Revenues shall be subject to taxation! No taxation, no representation! The 1987 Constitution of the Philippines declares: The separation of Church and State shall be inviolable. (Article II, Section 6), and, No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or… Read more »
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February 16, 2015 10:35 pm
baycas
Justice Puno wrote in August 2003: Jefferson was a man of the Enlightenment Era of the eighteenth century, characterized by the rationalism and anticlericalism of that philosophic bent.(234) He has often been regarded as espousing Deism or the rationalistic belief in a natural religion and natural law divorced from its medieval connection with divine law, and instead adhering to a secular belief in a universal harmony.(235) Thus, according to this Jeffersonian view, the Establishment Clause being meant to protect the state from the church, the state’s hostility towards religion allows no interaction between the two.(236) In fact, when Jefferson became… Read more »
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February 16, 2015 11:44 pm
Parekoy

Strict separationist, I am!

The wisdom is eternal!

And I think most of us here see the wisdom of the separation…

What about you, what is your position?

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February 16, 2015 11:50 pm
baycas

It’s his right to freely express his view…

May it be the ‘wisdom’ of a cuckoo…

http://raissarobles.com/2015/02/16/watch-video-of-cebu-archbishop-cardinal-vidal-calling-on-president-aquino-to-step-down/comment-page-1/#comment-253106

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February 17, 2015 12:02 am
Vhin

As one of the head of the Catholic church, Cardinal Vidal should refrain from issuing statements such as this. If it’s about the RH Bill during the height of the debate, then it’s okay since they guard the “morality” of their flock if not their priests. But a direct meddling in political affairs such as asking the president to step down is like reliving the Spanish colonial times. Sana sinabi niya na personal opinion nya lang yan as a citizen and not as head of the church.

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February 17, 2015 12:22 am
Parekoy

Vhin,

I call them Holy Sanctimonious Shits!

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February 17, 2015 12:31 am
Vhin AB

I’m afraid that I have to agree with you, Parekoy.

Yes, heads of religious organizations can always air their opinion but only as citizen. Kung maiiwasan nga ay sana iwasan. Pero huwag naman sanang isama ang church sa pamumulitika. Ang presidente hindi naman sila sinasabihan na magbitiw lalo na ng mainvolve sa pagtanggap ng mga sasakyan at favors from politicians maging sa sexual misconduct.

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February 17, 2015 12:48 am
Parekoy

Ang problema kasi kung sino pa ang mga dapat hwag makialam, tulad ng Simbahan at mga Banyaga, sa usaping politicalng bansa eh sila pa ang maiingay at nag-du-dunong dunongan! Kaya mas lalo pa tayong nagugulo ng mga elementong ito.

Ang problema, alam nila na mali ang kanilang ginagawang pakikialam pero binabalewala nila itong napaka-importanteng rule of law sa meddling in our internal affairs, especially matters political in nature!

Pero, talagang mga selective ang iba sa atin just to push their agenda!

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February 17, 2015 1:00 am
Vhin

Let’s be vigilant. Expose their true objectives. Walang mangyayari sa bansa natin kapag hindi sila nabalanse. Tayo na naman ang kawawa.

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February 17, 2015 1:05 am
Parekoy

Vhin,

Exactly! That is why the quest is always for the truth no matter how we will be disappointed to find out how rotten our system is!

Then when we know the truth, responsibility, accountability, and justice will prevail! A tall order, but we need to try!

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February 17, 2015 5:53 am
jorge bernas
@ Parekoy, Tama po kayo at dapat nga na hindi na sila makialam sa Gobyerno para wala nang Gulo dahil dagdag pagulo lang mga tiwaling cardinals sa ginagawa nilang pagpapagamit sa mga pulitikong mayroong pansariling interest at kasakiman at ngayon ay binabawi nila, puwede ba yon? maging responsably sana mga ito kahit matanda na at medyo ulyanin na… Pero ang palagay ko kaya ganoon ang ginawa nila ay dahil sa malaking pakinabang kong sakali para din sa pansariling KASAKIMAN…Pero nasaan kaya silang mga bishops kong tungkol sa mga Mandarambong at Magnanakaw na senadores at iba pa. tameme/bulag at bingi diba?… Read more »
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February 17, 2015 11:48 am
Parekoy

I like that!

One has the freedom to show his stupidiy in public!

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February 17, 2015 5:55 am
filipino_mom

same here @parekoy!

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February 17, 2015 11:52 am
Parekoy

And once in a while, even Ninez Cacho-Olivarez, who is a knownAquino hater, disagree with the NTC position of ousting Aquino! Even among haters, nuances counts!

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February 17, 2015 12:36 am
LitoBasilio

Is it not the proscription directed to the State (not Church)?

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February 17, 2015 12:19 am
Parekoy

It seems like it but the intent is bothways.

I’m no constitutionalist nor even a lawyer, so I pass this to others who know this important clause of separation of Church and State.

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February 17, 2015 6:54 am
baycas

Tama ka diyan, @LB.

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February 17, 2015 7:59 am
vander anievas

so fo…reigners are reminded by T. jefferson.
pero katulad ng mga kumpadre, sumasawsaw, sumusuway.
ano kayang maganda?
pwede kayang ipaampon sa mababait?

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February 19, 2015 12:52 am
Parekoy

:)

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February 19, 2015 3:51 am
balayang

Must have received one of those large amounts from termite. What kind of car does his TSUPER haul him about, I wonder ? Most of these bishops are for SALE !!!!!

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February 16, 2015 10:46 pm
NHerrera
PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND What I find a curious thing in all these calls for resignation or calls for the President’s accountability with a non-too-subtle hint of resignation is that when these proponents are confronted with the consequence of Binay taking over the Presidency, no one of these proponents has the honesty, decency or guts to say — yes, Binay should take over as the constitution mandates. Instead the answer offered is some variation of — “no, not necessarily” or if my reading is correct, there is the version: “a council will take over the running of the government.” The… Read more »
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February 16, 2015 10:54 pm
Parekoy
Their goal is power grab! These usual suspects have score to settle with Aquino! 1. The Church for passing the RH Bill into law and their past associations with Gloria 2. FVR – a perrenial power player who wanted to be relevant and perform his last hurrah before he leaves this earth! Note that he also has powerful foreigner backers through past relationships. One being when he became Asia Advisor Board Member of Carlyle Group, whose advisers were George H.W. bush and James Baker. 3. Gloria – if you don’t know the reason why her group is anti-Aquino, then you… Read more »
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February 16, 2015 11:36 pm
NHerrera

Thanks for the explicit explanations and suggestions for further readings on the others. The exercise will improve my grey matter too.

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February 16, 2015 11:56 pm
Parekoy

You might try to read past Articles written by Raissa here and there are wealth of info that when you consolidate them together, you will be better equipped with your reasoning and the way you formulate the questions.

I assume that you know how to navigate in Raissa’s Blog to find the archives?

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February 17, 2015 5:50 am
NHerrera

AN ASIDE

Wow, Ms. Raissa Robles, don’t you ever sleep? Your pace is so fast even @leona may not be able to keep pace. (leona, joking only, I know you can.)

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February 17, 2015 5:21 am
raissa

I try to.

But these are interesting, adrenaline-filled times – the ideal environment for reporters like me. :)

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February 17, 2015 6:28 am
alexis

Dapat isumbong kay Pope Francis sa kanyang pamumulitika.

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February 17, 2015 6:31 am
HOLYSTSJOHN

If only the Bishops spend more time reminding their flocks about the Church teachings….baka mabawasan na ang magnanakaw, mamamatay, corrupt, etc..sa Pilipinas

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February 17, 2015 11:34 am
kate
This cardinal who sided with the morally BANKRUPT GLORIA AROYO, should just concentrate to give his opinion where it matters; the corruption and abuse within the Church. [Remarks to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association, September 12 1960]” ― John F. Kennedy “I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute – where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote – where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference – and… Read more »
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February 18, 2015 12:59 am
Parekoy

Amen Kate! Amen!

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February 18, 2015 7:08 am
vander anievas

how ideal is that.
Phl is a big exemption.

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February 19, 2015 12:38 am
vander anievas

nakaklungkot.
ang mga dapat na manguna sa kawan para sa tapat na paninilbihan ay nagpapalabas ng kanilang tunay na kulay.
dr. jose p. rizal. bumalik ka sa iyong lupang hinirang.
masdan mo ang mga dama at mga aso.
nagpipista sa buto ng saf 44….
gusto nilang ihasik ang anay sa buong bansa mo…

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February 19, 2015 8:02 am
Troy
Iisa lang ang tunay na Iglesia na nangangaral at nagpapatupad ng lahat ng utos ng Panginoon. Lahat ayon sa nakasulat sa Biblia, walang dagdag- bawas.walang exemption, kagaya ng pag exempt for fasting ni Cardinal Tagle sa mga chinese Christians sa Archdiocese of manila dahilan sa chinese new year. May disiplina. Ito ay ang Iglesia ng Dios (Members Church of God International) na ngayon ay pinamumunuan ni Bro. Eli Soriano. Ang utos ng Dios, ang Kristiyano ay pasakop sa kapamahalaan ng bayan. Ito ipinangangaral sa lahat ng kasapi. Sa katunayan nga si Bro. Eli nagpahayag ng pagsuporta kay pangulong Aquino. Trending… Read more »
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February 19, 2015 7:50 pm
macspeed

Yes, ADD is the original Christian practice ever since the Christian in Antioch…

Today, many false prophets and false sect has stepped up campaign to interfere with the Government favoring the corrupt, shame on you bad priest, mag hubad na lang kayo ng abito nyo, nakakahiya kayo, nagpari kayo at lumalamon sa perang donasyon ng sekta nyo, naglalakihan mga tyan nyo, daming nagugutom? ANong klase yan pangangaral sa utos ni Kristo yan? Puro panlalabag ginagawa nyo.

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February 21, 2015 12:35 am
jorge bernas

@ macspeed

Tama po kayo sana hindi nalang silang mga PARI at OBISPO sumali dahil nalantad tuloy ang kanilang kasakiman at kabobohan…sana nagdasal nalang sila at nang nakatulong dahil dagdag paGULO ginagawa nila… SAKIM ang labas nila…. nakakawalang ganang mga Tao.

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March 11, 2015 10:40 am
Danny
Do the members of the NTC think that the people are gullible or stupid? They wanted a duly elected President to resign because from the very day he declared that he was running for the presidency and he was elected, they wanted him out of it. They could not wait until the next election in May 2016 so they can get rid of him. The NTC and the Bayanko groups are even prepare to side-step the Constitution on the succession of the executive branch. A columnist of the Philstar was very vocal from day one of the 2010 campaign and… Read more »
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February 20, 2015 9:41 pm
Clear pasig

“Be shepherds with the smell of sheep,” so that people can sense the priest is not just concerned with his own congregation, but is also a fisher of men. Pope Francis

Vidal and some other priest in the country are way far from that, instead they associate themselves to the lifestyle of power and greed.

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March 4, 2015 8:16 am
pau

The much publicized PNoy resign movement of NTC,Cojuangco couple, Pajero Bishops, Leftist groups, Arroyo tuta and biased media personalities didn’t materialize. Twenty thousand ( 20,000) attended the EDSA mass rally, 20,000 ‘ langaw and bangaw ‘. The silent majority knows who are the nationalistic and patriotic citizens not the power grabbers, kulang sa pansin, corrupt politicians, BINAY-aran and has been personalities. Ituloy ang tuwid na daan.

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March 4, 2015 12:56 pm
wpDiscuz