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Dear Congressman Nograles, if you condemn MILF’s Iqbal for using an alias, condemn Senator Jinggoy and Mayor Estrada, too

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By Raïssa Robles

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Critics of the Bangsamoro Basic Law are thinking up all excuses to stop its passage.

The latest one is the funniest.

Congressman Karlo Nograles demanded to know yesterday whether Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) chief negotiator Mohagher Iqbal has been using an alias in his passport. Nograles even warned that the use of aliases is in violation of two laws, one of which bars anyone from using pseudonyms in official documents.

If Congressman Nograles persists in pursuing this argument, then he should also question whether Senator Jinggoy Estrada signs official Senate resolutions, committee reports and proposed laws under a false name. Senator Jinggoy’s real name is José Pimentel Ejército, Jr. But he uses “Jinggoy” – his nickname and screen name – on official documents. Has he legally changed his name or merely registered this with the Comelec for campaign purposes?

See the sample of Sen. Jinggoy’s signature below:

Or take the case of Jinggoy’s father, former president Erap Estrada, who uses the name “Joseph Ejercito Estrada” and signs official documents using that monicker. His real name is Jose Marcelo Ejercito.

The violation is worse in his case because his false name is engraved on the paper money issued during his presidency. A stranger looking at his signature on our legal tender would probably conclude that Erap’s father’s surname was Estrada:

 

What I’m trying to say is this. Find something more serious and more relevant to charge Iqbal with.

Rebellion perhaps.

But Iqbal has never denied that the MILF, to which he belongs, is a rebel movement.

However, if Nograles is going to pursue this line of questioning he should also question the father and son tandem of Jinggoy and Erap.

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Congressman Nograles’ line of questioning made me curious to see how he thinks. What kind of laws he has proposed.

It turns out that the first law he proposed as lawmaker is the Right of Reply to any person accused of committing or even intending to commit any crime , “or are criticized by innuendo, suggestion or rumor for any lapse in behavior in public or private life shall have the right to reply to charges or criticisms published or printed” including on websites such as this one.

Under his bill, publication of the reply does not protect the publisher, editor-in-chief or owner from any lawsuit that may be filed for publishing “erroneous news”. The bill does not however provide for an independent body to determine whether the news was really erroneous. Nor does it fine any person who was the source of that “erroneous news”.

Even without waiting for his Reight of Reply to be passed I am inviting Cong. Karlo to reply to this piece.

You can read his proposed Right of Reply bill below:

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Another Karlo Nograles bill will in effect justify extra-judicial killings in “areas of conflict or combat zones.” Hmmm.

At first I thought it was a pro-human rights bill until I read Section 5. It states in a contorted way that any public officer, person in authority or agent of a person in authority can no longer be accused of administrative negligence “if there is an increase in the number of extrajudicial killing or salvaging in his area of responsibility” once his area has been “declared by the government as areas of conflict or combat zones.”

You can read his entire proposed bill below:

Comments

  1. IQBAL’S ID IS INDEED IMMATERIAL IF HE COULD BE INSTRUMENTAL IN BRINGING PEACE

    This range of arguments meant vs BBL seemed vent
    to destroy whatever gains peace approach had gain,hindi Ako magugulat kung next issue against BBL Is wrong spelling Ang ” bangsa “.

    Let’s give peace a chance.and not allow misuari and binay grâce Poe étal to derail a lasting solution to a problem made worse by senator marcos’ dad.

  2. To settle the issue about the real name of Mohagher Iqbal let’s find out the name indicated in the following documents pertaining to him:

    Certificate of birth
    Marriage contract/s
    Voter’s registration
    Income tax return
    Tax identification number
    School records
    Passport
    Firearms license
    Permit to carry firearm outside residence
    Community tax certificate
    Certificate of title on real property
    Real property tax declaration
    Senior citizen card
    Barangay clearance
    Police clearance
    NBI clearance
    Airline passenger manifest
    Passenger ship manifest
    SSS/GSIS membership
    Business permit

    I encourage everyone to complete the above list. I am sure I missed a lot. Can we expect issuance of a death certificate for Iqbal or whatever name he has in the future?

    • The Philippine Government has a dossier of high value targets, most wanted, leaders of the rebel movements like the NPA, MNLF, and MILF.

      Part yan ng strategy to keep off balance MILF as well as Ferrer and Deles.

      Though I don’t agree with such tactics, the objective is to delay the passing of BBL until honestly scrutinized and take out the provisions against our constitution and unfairly shortchanged our government.

      Sharia is a bit contentious. Anti-women and anti-gay.

      In the cloak of Parliamentary Government, Bangsamoro is actually aTheocracy which I am against!

      • Muslim MIndanao [which is not really ‘all’ Muslim] is likened to a part or limb of the human body. . . somewhat sick or not healthy. But it’s not yet gangrene for aputating it.

        But some, like MILF etc. says to the Republic – ‘Replace the bone part with steel.’ Then it still does not work.

        Finally, MILF etc., says ‘Aputate it.’ By doing aputation, it is cut. It weirdly grows as separate and becomes a part of Malaysia. Happy Malaysia! For one thing, no more Sabah claim also.

        Malaysia keep Mindanao forever away from the Philippine Republic.

        • In Article II of BBL, the Bangsamoro people are defined as the original inhabitants of Mindanao, Sulu and Palawan at the time of colonization (not clearly defined) and their descendants.

          This shows what they think of all other Filipinos and what territory they really are striving for.

          If in an Oriental Bazaar – or palengke sa Pilipinas for that matter – hindi mo alam ang gusto mo, talagang lalamangan ka, dapat palengkera ang nagnegotiate hindi mga Propesora na malayo sa tunay na buhay at naniniwala sa lahat ng sulsol sa kanila ni Iqbal.

    • Good lord. The administratively detailed Philippines, a red tape, paper-mongering, detail minded nation. May I suggest just one number branded on the forehead and toss the documents? Or writs, or buttock, I don’t care. Just Lord save me from going into government offices to comply with the runarounds . . .

      • Yes Joe, that is something I will recommend to the Bureau of Immigration via old DFA contacts.

        Have all “aliens” (hate that word are you Alf?) branded like cows before permanent residency.

        The solution is simple, just have one ID number (is the postal ID something like that, don’t know) and everything else stored in databases that have that single number as a common primary key, sounds totalitarian to some (well I am Mr. Hitler anyway so I don’t care) but I just call it efficient and sensible.

  3. Raissa, i dont think it is correct to compare the Estradas with Iqbal. Until such time as we know the real name of Iqbal and that it is being used on his travel documents we shuold remain suspicious of his credibility.
    This is an issue of national importance which puts the goverments credibility on the line. Did they not know he was not using his real name? Do they know his real name? In this matter on national security i find the whole situation pathetic
    Having been unable to trace the movements of Iqbal in and out of the Philippines what will these bright sparks now do?
    Although the Estradas usef psuedonyms we, at all times, knew who they really were and what they had been getting up to all of their lives.
    What do we know about Iqbal that can be verified?
    At the moment I would not trust him as far as i could throw Jinggoy Estrada.

      • Think about it. It is not just an alias it is a false identity.
        What do we know about the person using the name Igbal? Nothing. How can the Philipino Nation put its trust in such a person? Pnoy would take more care over establishing the bona fides of a person wishing to marry his sister than he appears to have taken over establishing the true identity of Igbal.
        Not only is this unknown quantity, “igbal”, signing documents illegally, he is taking the oath during BRC hearings using a ficticious identity.
        In my opinion he is a master conman.

    • It struck me as I was replying to rosario below that Iqbal also does not trust you, or anyone from the central government. And that is what this BBL is about. How to restore broken trust, both directions.

      • They should clearly call the Central Government the Republic of the Philippines in the entire BBL. Or are they keeping it so generic so the CG can be the Federation of Malaysia in the future? I am for a clearer committment that they want to stay part of the Republic of the Philippines.

        I have a lot of experience in dealing with Muslims over here, one can get along well if one remembers the rules of the Oriental Bazaar. Know what you want, ask for more than you will get, be tough and clear but smile all the time like they do – ask Israel if you want to know more.

      • I think the ball is squarely in Igbal’s court. How can we trust someone who has many other secret identities. Lets stop the soft soaping, (quit using “alias” and call it “other identity”) and then ask ourselves what does he get up to when using these other identities?
        To start the “trust ball” rolling let Igbal come clean, let him tell us who he is, with documentary proof. And, reveal his other identities to reassure us that he is not, for instance, a member of other rebel organisations.
        If we know nothing about him how can we trust him?

  4. A rebel has to do what he/she needs to do.

    Having foreign passport is a craft for avoiding detection of enemies pursuing you.

    A rebel is expected to defy the laws of the government he / she is fighting against.

    So it is immaterial and waste of effort for aspersion of Iqbal’s allegiance on Malaysia. Though I am more concerned with Malaysia’s powergame of using Iqbal and MILF to further Malaysian interest. Malaysia should never be involved in the negotiations of Bangsamoro, their supposed neutrality is a sham and needs to be exposed.

    • Though not related, an interesting fact.

      Hitler was an Austrian and they migrated to Germany when he was. 3. Became a citizen of Brunswick in 1932 and a Chancellor of Germany in 1933. He became a german Citizen in 1934 and immediately became the Fuhrer (Leader) of Germany.

      —-

      Not aspersing that she is related to Hitler but some trivial observations Germanic in nature,

      Another interesting thing is that Raissa has an umlaut in her i, maybe she has German heritage?

      —-

      It seems a fad for me noticing German related words…it seems strange and I don’t know why…

      —-

      :)

      • danke parekoy, now i know the term on top of raissa’s name. as of this moment just enjoy munching MERCY, one of the german best chocolates!

        • Hallo Kalakala!

          If somebody with Hitler tendencies ascends to the throne, he might have the jejemon name of

          jëjöm̈är Bïn̈äy

          Wir sprechen uns später,
          Pärëköy

        • sicher, parekoy, . aber ich muss mein Kind für zahnärztliche Kontrolle ersten zu bringen. bis später

        • The new salute of the AFP when the Binay becomes the pesident:

          Heil Mary Jesus and Joseph!

          and the Catholic Church affirms,

          Amen!

        • MANILA – Should the Supreme Court (SC) issue a temporary restraining order (TRO) to stop all proceedings before the Court of Appeals (CA) involving the preventive suspension of Makati Mayor Jejomar Erwin “Junjun” Binay, including the appellate court’s halt order on the implementation of the suspension order?

          Did the appellate court undermine the “constitutionally guaranteed” independence of the Office of the Ombudsman when it handed down the 60-day TRO?

          The high court enumerated the following questions and points which shall cover the scope of the hearing:

          – Whether or not the CA committed grave abuse of discretion amounting to lack or excess of jurisdiction when it issued the TRO, dated March 16, considering the constitutionally guaranteed independence of the Ombudsman and a prohibition, under Section 14 of the Ombudsman Act, on the issuance of any restraining or injunctive order by courts, other than the SC, on any decision or findings of the Ombudsman.

          – Whether or not the Ombudsman, as an impeachable officer, can be subject of contempt proceedings before the CA.

          – Whether or not the Ombudsman petition for certiorari under Rule 65 of the Rules of Court raises errors or judgment and not errors of jurisdiction as provided for in the said rule.

          – Whether or not Section 14 of the Ombudsman Act defeats the power of the SC and the CA to exercise original jurisdiction over petitions for certiorari and prohibition against acts of the Ombudsman.

          – Whether or not Section 14 of the Ombudsman Act bars the SC and CA, in the exercise of original jurisdiction over petitions for certiorari and prohibition, from determining any grave abuse of discretion on the part of the Ombudsman in the issuance of preventive suspension orders, including the latter’s appreciation of the strength of evidence against public servants under investigation, the duration of the suspension, and the applicability of defenses on the part of the public servants during the investigation stage.

          – Whether or not Section 14 of the Ombudsman Act completely removes the SC and/or the CA’s power to issue injunctive writs over investigations conducted by the Ombudsman.

          – Whether or not the Ombudsman’s determination that a preventive suspension of a public servant in an administrative disciplinary case is “timely, proper and necessary,” a finding of fact, or of law, or both.

          – Whether or not the above-described determination by the Ombudsman is conclusive on the courts, such that any contrary view from the courts will only “delay and interfere” with an ongoing investigation.

          – Whether or not the CA should be allowed to first address challenges to a preventive suspension order, on grounds of errors of jurisdiction, issued by the Ombudsman before such challenges are raised before the SC.

          – Whether the nature (certiorari and prohibition) of the petition of the Ombudsman is the most appropriate remedy to challenge the contempt proceedings before the CA.

          – Whether the SC should issue the TRO sought by the Ombudsman against the CA.

          The high court directed the parties to submit, not later than 12:00 noon on April 13, Monday, their respective position papers addressing the said issues.

        • IMO the issues would revolve on the following:

          On question of law, i.e., authority of OMB to preventively suspend or to dismiss – the SC and ONLY the SC could hear any appeal on decisions or application for remedy, i.e., TRO, PI, SQAO, etc.

          On question of facts, i.e., whether the offense committed or subject matter is within or outside jurisdiction of the OMB, – the CA and SC could hear the petition for injunctive relief on the basis of the allegations in the complaint and supporting evidence. If the offense or subject matter is outside the jurisdiction of the OMB, then there is grave abuse of discretion amounting to lack of jurisdiction.

          “Section 14. Restrictions. — No writ of injunction shall be issued by any court to delay an investigation being conducted by the Ombudsman under this Act, unless there is a prima facie evidence that the subject matter of the investigation is outside the jurisdiction of the Office of the Ombudsman.

          “No court shall hear any appeal or application for remedy against the decision or findings of the Ombudsman, except the Supreme Court, on pure question of law.”

          On merits of the case, i.e., whether the decision to suspend or dismiss the offender is meritorious based on evidence presented and HEARD in the OMB – the CA could hear the appeal by petition for review. See Section 27 as modified by Fabian vs. Desierto, G.R. No. 129742, September 16, 1998.

          “Section 27. Effectivity and Finality of Decisions. — (1) All provisionary orders of the Office of the Ombudsman are immediately effective and executory.
          X x x x . . .
          In all administrative disciplinary cases, orders, directives, or decisions of the Office of the Ombudsman may be appealed to the Supreme Court by filing a petition for certiorari within ten (10) days from receipt of the written notice of the order, directive or decision or denial of the motion for reconsideration in accordance with Rule 45 of the Rules of Court.”

      • Your “Fuhrer” needs an umlaut over the “u”. An umlaut was a shorthand form used by medieval monks to indicate an “e” (hence, spelled out it would be “Fuehrer”). An umlaut is used by many languages, not just German.

        • I was using ipad and hard to copy the real u with umlaut. But just wanted to ask if Raissa has any German heritage since she is using umlaut.

          :)

        • As I said, if you can’t use an umlaut, just add an “e” after the affected character – Fuehrer, Goering.

          I wonder why you think her name would indicate German heritage. I believe it came from Russian literature. I understand it’s also an Arabic word

        • Gorbachev’s wife is Raissa Gorbacheva.

          Führerschein BTW is the German word for driver’s license.

          I have one, so am I licensed to drive or licensed to be a new Führer? :-)

        • Press on a vowel for a longer time and voíla…you can select marks over the vowel for the needed instruction on pronunciation.

          It may also work on the symbol ñ or Ñ.

          It works on iOS and Android.

    • i’ve always wondered kung sino yung tinamaan ng magaling ang pumayag na gawing facilitator ang malaysia when obvious naman na di sila neutral sa issue na to?

    • Name or different names.

      What did Sen. Ninoy Aquino used in his passport upon arrival at the tarmac? – . . . Andres Bonifacio !

      But did Sen. Ninoy cut off his loyalty and love to/for the Republic?

      • Compare Mr. Iqbal’s . . . he did cut off his loyalty as he admitted.

        What about our Filipino revolutionaries, did any of them have different names during the revolution?

        Did any of them cut off their loyalty to their BAYAN FILIPINAS? Obviously it was the reverse. . . they loved more the country for that. That is the measure of using a different name or names.

        Maybe in the case of Mr. Iqbal, he’s more than to that. . . another republic.

        • @leona,
          you have a point.
          applying @leona’s scrutiny: “Obviously it was the reverse. . . they loved more the country for that. That is the measure of using a different name or names.”
          and if, if and only if, my imagination just stir my confused mind, iqbal is a malaysian, then that shall be a measure of his more love of his country(i am not implying he’s not pinoy).
          sabi ng demand text ng smart” disregard if your bill was already paid”.
          same as my foolish perusal, disregard if it sounds nanceense…hehehe..

  5. But Raissa my dear … using aliases is either a blessing or a disguise … unfortunately, most second generation trapos make use of their father’s nom deguerre to maximize name recall … thus enhancing the biblical prophecy of “the sins of the fathers shall visit up t the third and fourth generations … just look at the Revillas of Cavite and the Estradas …

  6. from Reuben Abante
    During yesterday’s forum on BBL at Capitol Baptist Church, I posted the following question to Chairman Mohagher Iqbal:
    “I look at you as a Filipino. But can you categorically say before this audience that your allegiance is to the Republic of the Philippines and not to Malaysia?”

    Upon careful scrutiny of the audio recording of the forum, please be informed of Chairman Iqbal’s verbatim reply —

    “To Malaysia, I don’t owe any allegiance to Malaysia. But to the Philippines, I am still a rebel, technically, I am still a rebel. I want the conflict to be settled. Unless and until the conflict is settled through the BBL and implemented, then I cannot pay full allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines. Because we are still in a conflict. Nandyan pa din ang conflict. Hindi lang nagkaroon ng gyera kasi may Ceasefire tayo, and then nag-usap tayo. Mayroon tayong napirmahan na mga agreements. And then yung agreement nagbigay nung drafting of the Bangsamo Basic Law. Yan ang solution…pag naimplement yan, then I will pay 100% allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines. But until now, I cannot give 100% allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines kasi hindi pa natapos ang problema. We are revolutionary. We are rebel. So when I pay 100% allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines, hindi na ako rebelde, hindi ba?”

    I therefore STAND CORRECTED AND I APOLOGIZE TO CHAIRMAN MOHAGHER IQBAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR LAPSE. It’s good that we have the recording. I am herewith attaching the portion of the audio recording.”

    My question? To whom then your 100% allegiance belong?
    Does it belong to MILF only? or does it belong to the Pilipino muslims only? or does it belong to the Pilipino people, muslims and christians and other minorities?

    • He has agreed to the BBL, which is not a religious document, but an agreement for governance that contains specific provisions addressing human rights (including religious freedom) and participation by other indigenous communities. Will friction arise? For sure. Are the mechanisms in place to resolve them? I think reasonably so, yes.

      • that may be, but he also does not want the bbl to be watered-down although it has already been pointed out by a bunch of people how unconstitutional some of its provisions are. and then those utterances of him that if bbl is watered-down, it will not be accepted by the milf, war will happen damn ceasefire to that effect. and today he said something that if the milf personnel will be brought to justice or rather if cases will be filed against some of the milf that was party in the mamasapano debacle, milf will again invoke ceasefire or no more ceasefire if my hearing was correct.
        i mean… what??? is the phil govt being bambozzled, it’s like there’s a machine gun on the head.. do this or else! ano siya – duterte?, binay? i am the vp!!! everything are lies, politically motivated! and why,? for crying out loud malaysia is in it? why was their report first passed to the malaysian govt instead of the phil govt? what gives? how much? from whom? sabah cannot even be redeemed by the sultanate. malaysia is a rent-seeker in sabah! worse, the govt. did not even help the sabah to reclaim sabah.
        i know that my english is not that good but i hope you get my drift.
        the binays needs to be in jail!!!!! MATAGAL na akong nanggagalaiting masyado sa mga hinayupak biNAY anays na yan! please if they cannot be in jail, let the milf show support the govt, killl the b anays! sa lungga ng mga binay nyo dalhin at paputukin mga armas nyo!

        • not bamboozled. , forced is the the correct word! not bamboozled kasi it wasn’t a surprise. forced or pressured! the correct term.

        • Great care has gone into the constitutionality of the document, so we’d have to look at the specific challenges to know what the critics don’t think passes muster.

          Iqbal has said they will accept changes if the material thrust of material self-governance remains. Let’s flip the table. You don’t trust the MILF. What if trust is a two-way street? What if the MILF and indigenous groups have huge mistrust of the Philippine government for a litany of past neglect and abuses. Then the document is not about trying to dominate the Philippine government. It is about assuring that those abuses stop. The only people they trust is themselves.

          Really, they are just the flip side of your mistrust.

          Maybe we should call this a “trust document” rather than a peace document.

        • I wonder if the MILF really represent even the Muslims in Bangsamoro.

          How many of them are just afraid to say no to a ruthless armed grouping.

          What I don’t like is giving power straight to MILF – they could be the new abusers and totally neglect their own people while their leaders make themselves richer. Something seen often in Arab countries. But also in the Philippines – former slaves can become the new tyrants.

        • i am for mindanao peace.
          i am for all the filipinos there.
          i am for the BBL.
          i want progress in all of the inclusive regions who embrace peace and BBL.
          so, if we want to give the MILF this BBL,
          there must be an assurance that it wont copy a misuari in ARMM…

        • Restoring trust is a very hard balance to achieve after so much discord.

          Still the Philippine Government must not neglect its own interests. I wrote about possibilities to restrain the BBL a little in that direction so that we do not wake up in Lebanon one day.

        • Yes, I agree that the existing agreement should work to eliminate the opportunity for conflict, like that expansion provision that is absolutely a snake in the grass. And others you identified, too.

        • Besides it is also an old con man trick to make people sign stuff based on “we don’t trust you so we need you to sign this and that”. Weak people – and weak governments – fall for that.

        • I have an even better idea. The MILF should prove their loyalty to the Philippines by fighting the Chinese on Panatag Shoal. Atone for the blood of the SAF 44 by shedding their own a little.

          They happen to be good warriors. They want autonomy. We need help over there. Tit for tat. Bazaar.

    • Mr. Iqbal says: ‘To Malaysia, I don’t owe any allegiance to Malaysia. But to the Philippines’

      Then, Mr. Iqbal says: ‘ But until now, I cannot give 100% allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines kasi hindi pa natapos ang problema. We are revolutionary.’

      Now, Mr. Iqbal: Which is which?

      Allegiance or no allegiance? Regardless if you consider yourself as a rebel or whatever, you admitted in public you do not have allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines. It is not 100%.

      Allegiance is not fragmented like 90% 85% or 75%. It is 100% or nothing.

      Clever Mr. Iqbal. But just the same, you slipped your tongue! You are not now and ever will be a True Filipino!

      • The belief or philosophy of Mr. Iqbal is not only he wants to eat the CAKE but he wants also the WHOLE BAKERY of it!

        Clever but revealingly untruthful to even oneself. . . not anymore to the Republic.

      • @leona

        I still believe that Iqbal double speaks. He speaks eloquently, but his action speaks louder than his words. Just like Hasim Salamat, his and the MILF’s agenda is secession.

        How do you interpret his “we will not accept a watered-down BBL”?

        Now that the BBL is being subjected to scrutiny and many legal minds find some provisions unconstitutional, if ever the BBL is passed by congress with amendments that are contrary to their (Iqbal’s) version of BBL what will ha and the MILF do?

        • Q.E.D. – ‘ “I refuse to prove that I exist,” says God, “for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.”

          ‘ “But,” say Man, “the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.”

          ‘ “Oh dear,” says God, “I hadn’t thought of that” and promply vanishes in a puff of logic.” — Douglas Adams, from “A Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” ‘

          As it’s meaning: ‘It literally translates as “which was to be demonstrated” [ quod erat demonstradum,

          – as well stated by [email protected] – “ but his action speaks louder than his words. ”

          R.A.I = reductio ad impossibilem. It is a particular kind of the more general form of argument known as reductio ad absurdum.

          I like to say to Mr. Iqbal: Your two statements in question as admitted in public, is absurd.

          Clever but definitely absurd. Meaning: wildly unreasonable, illogical, or inappropriate.

          :-)

          . . . and is a formal way of ending a mathematical, logical or physical proof. It’s purpose is to alert the reader that the immediately previous statement, which naturally was arrived at by an unbroken chain of logic, was the original statement that we were trying to prove.’

          ‘unbroken chain of logic’ the immediately previous statement [of Mr. Iqbal] as ‘admitted’ in public, is logical and unbroken? I then asked, and I ask again . . .

          -Mr. Iqbal: which is which of the two statements is true?

          One answer is that given by [email protected] – “ therefore his allegiance is to the revolution…

        • My guess as to what Mr. Iqbal will do is: Maybe he’ll advise MILF to swallow his contradicting statements as to his allegiance as hard rough rock or to go to war.

          Either of the two is always WILD.

          :-)

  7. Nograles should have made a follow up question if Iqbal was issued or holding a Malaysian passport. If Iqbal denies and Nograles can prove he was issued or holding Malaysian passport the he (Iqbal) can be charged of perjury. The burden of proof is on Nograles.

    • I believe the question was asked and Iqbal said he only had a Philippine passport. This all reminds me of the Obama “born in Kenya” firefight launched by political opponents.

  8. https://www.facebook.com/pages/No-to-Binay-and-No-to-Bobong-marcos-in-2016-Presidential-Election/1491041267795965

    https://www.facebook.com/reuben.abante
    Reuben Abante
    “To everyone in Facebook who responded to my Status Post yesterday regarding the reply of Chairman Mohagher Iqbal to my question:

    During yesterday’s forum on BBL at Capitol Baptist Church, I posted the following question to Chairman Mohagher Iqbal:
    “I look at you as a Filipino. But can you categorically say before this audience that your allegiance is to the Republic of the Philippines and not to Malaysia?”
    Upon careful scrutiny of the audio recording of the forum, please be informed of Chairman Iqbal’s verbatim reply —

    “To Malaysia, I don’t owe any allegiance to Malaysia. But to the Philippines, I am still a rebel, technically, I am still a rebel. I want the conflict to be settled. Unless and until the conflict is settled through the BBL and implemented, then I cannot pay full allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines. Because we are still in a conflict. Nandyan pa din ang conflict. Hindi lang nagkaroon ng gyera kasi may Ceasefire tayo, and then nag-usap tayo. Mayroon tayong napirmahan na mga agreements. And then yung agreement nagbigay nung drafting of the Bangsamo Basic Law. Yan ang solution…pag naimplement yan, then I will pay 100% allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines. But until now, I cannot give 100% allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines kasi hindi pa natapos ang problema. We are revolutionary. We are rebel. So when I pay 100% allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines, hindi na ako rebelde, hindi ba?”

    I therefore STAND CORRECTED AND I APOLOGIZE TO CHAIRMAN MOHAGHER IQBAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR LAPSE. It’s good that we have the recording. I am herewith attaching the portion of the audio recording.

    However, I still have MANY QUESTIONS regarding the BBL which I want answered and clarified.”

    My Question? Can you not have allegiance to the Philippines when you are a rebel?
    paki ispleka po ng tanong ko dahil mismong ako nalilito.

  9. ms raissa I salute u for doing a good journalism sa bansa natin, alam ko na hinde ka kayang bayaran ng sino man, sana marami pang mga media at reporters ang maging katulad mo ms raissa.

  10. mas matindi itong husband and wife tandem: senate and congress tandem

    11 alyas nina Bong, Lani hinagip sa freeze order

    • from abante dated 08 aprpil 2015: Base sa motion na i­hinain ng government prosecutor sa Sandiganbayan First Division, mayroon umanong pitong alyas si Sen. Revilla habang may apat umanong pangalan naman ang kanyang asawang si Cong. Revilla.

  11. not only father and son tandem in using alias, husband and wife too. not only in congress, in senate too.

    11 alyas nina Bong, Lani hinagip sa freeze order

    Nais habulin ng prosekusyon ang mga ari-arian na nakapangalan sa mga alyas umano ni Sen. Ramon ‘Bong’ Revilla Jr. at asawa nito na si Cavite 2nd District Representative Lani Mercado-­Revilla na isama sa freeze order ng mga assets.

    Base sa motion na i­hinain ng government prosecutor sa Sandiganbayan First Division, mayroon umanong pitong alyas si Sen. Revilla habang may apat umanong pangalan naman ang kanyang asawang si Cong. Revilla.

    Sa writ of attachment na inisyu ng Korte noong February 6 tanging sa pangalang “Ramon Bong Revilla Jr.”ang sakop ng freeze order sa assets ng senador na naha­harap sa kasong plunder kaugnay ng pagkakasangkot umano sa pork barrel scam ni Janet Lim-Napoles.

    Natuklasan ng go­vernment prosecutors na bukod sa nakarehistrong pangalan ng senador, gumagamit din ito ng pa­ngalang “Ramon Revilla Jr.”, “Bong”, “Jose Marie M. Bautista”, “Jose Marie Mortel Bautista”, “Ramon ‘Bong’ Bautista Jr.”, “Ramon ‘Bong’ Bautista” at “Jose Marie Bautista”.

    Samantala, ang asawa nito ay gumagamit naman ng mga alyas na “Jesusa Victoria Bautista”, “Jesusa Victoria H. Bautista” at “Lani Mercado Revilla” habang noong 2009 ay nagpalit din umano ito ng pangalang “Lani Hernandez Mercado” mula sa da­ting “Jesusa Victoria”, “Jesusa Garcia Hernandez”.

  12. Karlo Nograles should realize that his fellow congressmen use aliases, too:

    1. Neri Colmenares – “Pink Panda”
    2. Toby Tiangco – ” Nattering nabob of Navotas”
    3. Manny Pacquiao – “never late, because never present”
    4. Kimi Cojuangco – Nuclear dumbshell

    LOL Joke only.

  13. I think the use of fake names should be a right granted to all, like free speech, as most of us have bad deeds to hide from or threats to avoid, not to mention publicity to acquire if it will make us rich enough. That’s why Facebook dropped its “authentic user only” policy. For example, George Sand was a woman writer named Amantine-Lucile_Aurore Dupin and famous American pro-Philippine independence writer Mark Twain was Samual Clemens. The reality is there is no reality but the time delimited one we concoct for ourselves at any given instant. Besides, it keeps NSA and Mossad guessing and its fun making names up. For the many of us who are corrupt, it allows us to sign documents and deny it afterward. Like Ejercito, Sr. can’t be held responsible for anything Manila does because he used the Estrada name. Many people don’t know it, but Jejomar’s real name is Groucho Marx. He’s actually a very funny guy.

    • Thank goodness for the no-authentic-name-requirement policy of Raissa. Can you imagine if authentic name is required and someone finds out that instead of a wrinkled, dry old man I pretend to be, I am really a tall, dark, handsome man? Raissa will be besieged with request for my email. As a consequence, she will surely cut me off at CPM, pronto.

      No, I am not joking; this is a serious matter. I do not joke about my authentic self, ever.

  14. Haha! Ouch!

    Now that we’re in the topic of father and son, how is Karlo related to former House Speaker Prospero?

    “Karlo” itself does sound like a ward of Kuya Germs. What’s his real name? Does he sign his bills the same way?

  15. Doble Kara . . . wag IBOTO… sabi ni PNOY. –

    ‘MANILA, Philippines – Huwag iboto ang mga ‘doble kara’ na nagkukunwa­ring kakampi para lamang manalo sa halalan’.

    Ito ang pakiusap kahapon ni Pangulong Benigno Aquino III sa mga botante sa nalalapit na 2016 presidential elections sa naging mensahe nito sa inagurasyon ng tulay ng Lulutan sa Iligan City, Isabela.

    “Kayo ang magpapatuloy ng pagbabago. Tiwala akong hindi kayo magpapabola sa mga nagpiprisintang kakampi natin pero plano namang doble kara,” wika pa ng Pangulo.

    Magugunita na hindi ito ang unang pagkakataon na hinikayat ng Pangulo ang taumbayan na huwag magpapadala sa bola ng mga pulitikong nagkukunwaring kakampi niya.

    Aniya, nasa kamay ng mga botante ang kinabukasan ng sinimulan niyang reporma sa pamahalaan kaya dapat maging maingat ang mga ito sa pagpili ng kanilang iboboto sa 2016 elections.

    “Tiwala akong maru­nong lumingon ang Filipino sa nakaraan, nang hindi na maulit pa ang mga kamalian noon,” dagdag pa ni P-Noy.

    Pang-Masa ( Article MRec ), pagematch: 1, sectionmatch: 1
    Ipinagmalaki naman ni Pangulong Aquino sa kanyang mensahe kahapon ang mga ongoing infrastructure projects ng kanyang administrasyon na hindi lamang sa ‘salita’ kundi nagawa ng kanyang gobyerno para sa kabutihan ng bansa.’

    What is doble kara?
    Si Mr. Iqbal, doble kara ba sa gamit ng pangalan niya sa passaporte?

    Si Sen. Jinggoy Estrada ganoon din?

    Kung karamote, dapat ba iboto sa halalan? Sa GAMBLING, yun ‘two OLD COINS’ of 1950s, ito ba ang doble kara?

    Si VP Binay ba ang tinutokoy ni PNoy na doble kara? Yun anak nya ganoon din?

    Kung wari kakampi para manalo sa halalan – ang DOBLE KARA – paliwanag ni PNOY.

    Alam kaya ni Cong. Karlo Nograles ano ang DOBLE KARA sa gamit ng ‘pangalan’? Hindi siguro kakampi si Cong. Nograles sa BBL.

    Ang buhay ng mamayan, Karamote o karamouche ! ?