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By Raïssa Robles
President Benigno Aquino has categorically stated that he will not drop the Philippine claim to Sabah, contrary to what critics of his centerpiece legislation on Muslim autonomy – the Bangsamoro Basic Law – are saying.
During my recent wide-ranging interview with him that lasted over two hours in Malacanang Palace, I asked President Aquino directly whether he was going to drop Sabah.
“No,” he said.
When I asked him if Malaysia had offered a quid pro quo – Kuala Lumpur’s support of the Philippine claim in the West Philippine Sea in exchange for Manila’s dropping of the Sabah claim – President Aquino also replied “No.”
I am posting at the end a video clip from the entire interview that has to do with the Sabah issue. I had to cut away a small portion of it because he placed that off the record.
This morning when I attended the forum on the BBL which presented the Filipino public opinion on the matter, I decided to share what Aquino had told me during my lengthy interview with him for South China Morning Post (HK). This was after I realized that much of the animosity of the people of Sulu and Tawi-Tawi – as well as a lot of Netizens on Facebook – toward the BBL stemmed from the Sabah issue.
They believe that in exchange for Malaysia’s brokering the peace deal between the government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, President Aquino would express his gratitude by dropping the Sabah claim.
During the forum this morning at the University of the Philippines, Dr. Carmen Abubakar, former dean of the University of the Philippines Institute of Islamic Studies asked MILF chief negotiator Mohagher Iqbal – who was also present – why “from day one” Sabah was not included in the discussions.
Iqbal replied that Sabah “is a foreign affairs issue”, meaning it was beyond the powers granted by the BBL.
For the first time, though, Iqbal spoke lengthily about the Sabah issue. Whenever I had asked him about it, he had always dodged the question. Today, he said for the first time that “personally” and “perhaps it reflects the position of the MILF, the Sabah claim will not be dropped. However, pursuing the Sabah claim would need two aspects – whether the claim would involve a sovereignty claim or a proprietary claim.”
And for the first time in the 18 years I have been covering the MILF peace talks and interviewing Iqbal as a source, he categorically said: “Organizationally, we would not agree to the dropping of the Sabah claim. Whoever drops the Sabah claim, magkakaroon ng (will suffer from) karma.”
But he reiterated that “the issue is whether to proceed on the sovereignty or proprietary claim. That will be be the decision of the Philippine government and the Sultanate (of Sulu).”
Please note that Iqbal was referring to whether Sabah is being claimed as part of Philippine territory or as a piece of property in Malaysian territory that is owned by the Sultanate of Sulu.
Personally, I feel it is unfair to demand that the BBL should contain a section on the Sabah issue when neither the 1996 peace deal of Moro National Liberation Front Nur Misuari nor the 1976 Tripoli Agreement, which Misuari also signed, made no mention of Sabah.
Misuari would have been in the proper position to raise the Sabah issue since his ancestor was the commander of the military force sent by the Sultanate of Sulu to come to the aid of his relative, the Sultan of Brunei. In gratitude for helping stamp out a rebellion, the Sultan of Brunei gave Sabah as a gift to the Sultanate of Sulu.
Because of this, I happen to believe that Sabah is part of the ancestral homeland of the people of Sulu and Tawi-Tawi. But the issue can be resolved in a peaceful and just manner. And it is to Malaysia’s interest to resolve it in that manner. As well as to ensure that the BBL uplifts the lives of all Moros of all ethnic groups.
In any case, after Iqbal spoke, Almarim Tillah, the former Tawi-Tawi governor and ex-Senator Santanina Rasul’s brother – whom I have also interviewed as a source – again stood up and underscored the need to discuss Sabah as an issue now, in connection with the passage of the BBL law.
Tillah questioned the use of Malaysia as the broker of the peace talks when Malaysia “is a party in interest” because of Sabah.
After I shared what Pres. Aquino had told me, Tillah spoke up again saying, “he (Aquino) has never made a statement (on Sabah) categorically….I have not heard our president (speak on the issue).”
So why – of all people – did the President tell me his stand on Sabah?
Only because I had asked him about it.
After I had asked him about Sabah, Aquino turned to an aide to ask what other activities he had that afternoon.
It was a broad hint for me to wind up the interview. But I did not take the hint. :)
You can listen to the video and read the transcript of the interview:
Interview with President Benigno Aquino III on the Sabah issue:
Raissa Robles: Sir, sources have told me it was Malaysia which first offered a quid pro quo. But if the Philippines drops the claim to Sabah, Kuala Lumpur would back the Philippine claim in the West Philippine Sea. Is this true?
PRESIDENT AQUINO: No.
Raissa Robles: It’s not?
PRESIDENT AQUINO: If you look at the note verbale, it doesn’t even mention anything about Sabah. At saka ‘di ba, parang…Sorry…[Ito na naman ‘yung my smile that gets me into trouble.]
Raissa Robles: [laughs] Okay.
PRESIDENT AQUINO: Iyong giving up Sabah does not that open such a big can of worms in this country. Remember even my mother was attacked na, ‘are you giving up Sabah?’ et cetera, et cetera.
Raissa Robles: Yes.
PRESIDENT AQUINO: And what do we get in return? Another country helped us…You know, the other version of that it helped us in the UN (United Nations). So if Malaysia pulls its weight, it can convince all the other member countries in the UN to support our claim in the South China Sea or even within ASEAN. They are hosts for…They can support resolves the issues in the South China Sea and I gave up Sabah, and I open myself up to such a juicy item for all of the media to pounce on? To anybody who has entertained this idea that that was possible, that really smack so much of your rationality.
Raissa Robles: How is your attitude to Sabah, then?
PRESIDENT AQUINO: Leila (de Lima), SOJ (Secretary of Justice), did a study and perhaps one of the biggest issues there is the right of self-determination, which is I understand part of the UN Charter, okay.
It’s supposed to trump everything whether historical fact et cetera. At the end of the day, the people who are living there and if they are asked, ‘Will they say, they want to join us or they want to join Malaysia?’ There was supposed to have been a vote done —
Raissa Robles: 1960 —
PRESIDENT AQUINO: Whatever year it was.
Raissa Robles: 1960s under Foreign Secretary Emmanuel Pelaez. But he condemned that and he said that cannons were being brought all over the place to –
PRESIDENT AQUINO: Then that will be redone again. And we are having that understanding.
Raissa Robles: But are you going to openly tackle the Sabah question in your term or you prefer not to
PRESIDENT AQUINO: After I’m presented with a very good case, then baka pwedeng… [Sandali ha, off the record lang muna]
Raissa Robles: But you are not going to drop Sabah?
PRESIDENT AQUINO: No.
Raissa Robles: Okay, that’s a no.
PRESIDENT AQUINO: Pero ano it goes back to that enshrined right of self-determination. They will have to be asked where they want to go. And I am told that previously there had already been a plebiscite done to which they said they wanted to join the Malayan Federation.
Raissa Robles: But Pelaez said…Actually Pelaez gave me some papers, e during that time because I was covering him —
PRESIDENT AQUINO: Parang ngayon ‘di ba, parang some of our citizens in Basulta in Basilan, Sulu and Tawi-Tawi used the Ringgit to purchase their basic necessities from Sabah as opposed to Zamboanga. Do we really want to open that can of worms?
Raissa Robles: Actually, sir, I have a lot to say about Sabah but this is not the right time…Okay —
Neo Canjeca says
would like to post some thoughts again if . . .
Neo Canjeca says
ain’t that nice to be back at RR’s Plaza Miranda.
NHerrera says
WHAT ARE THE ODDS?
Rappler.com — Should Binay resign from Cabinet? ‘Up to him’ – Palace (9:42 PM, May 16, 2015)
In a business forum on Friday, Binay said the Philippines has enough good policies but lacks implementation because of the quality of its leaders. He also chipped away at the image of economic resurgence portrayed by the Aquino administration.
Setting aside the weak-kneed treatment of the President of this man who has criticized the Administration of which he a Cabinet member many times, the above quoted criticism being only the latest one, we may …
ASK THE ODDS THAT BINAY RESIGNS:
– In June, shortly after the President’s endorsement of of the Admin Coalition Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates (which endorsement for the Presidency he and his family has been dreaming of getting but which will most likely be denied him);
– In October, when candidates file for Certificates of Candidacy;
– “Never,” meaning even after the May 2016 election, considering that the current President’s term is up to end June 2016.
From the wife and children, we cannot expect any measure of delicadeza or sanity; but is it too much to ask “true” relatives and friends to advise him for some measure of HIYA?
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
Hiya, ano iyon? Is what he might answer – or at least think deep inside.
NHerrera says
:-)
Kalahari says
Leftists break silence, come out swinging at Binay
Even the militant group that kept silent as vp binay was pummeled in a corruption scandal last year is now speaking up.
Bayan came out swinging at binay on Saturday saying the information reported by the AMLC “indicates corruption of such scandalous proportion.”
“This cannot be dismissed by general denials or attribution to a demolition job by the vp’s enemies. At the very least, being public officials, the binays have an obligation to show the true figures of their wealth and explain how they acquired this,” Bayan spokesperson Teddy Casino said. (PDI 5/17/15)
For the first time, I fully agree with the leftists.
Kalahari says
AMLC: We won’t be used for political persecution
The Anti-Money Laundering Council yesterday stressed that the cases it files against individuals or groups are “products of investigations as mandated by law.”
The AMLC issued the statement following a freeze order by the CA on bank accounts of vp binay, his family and some associates.
“The AMLC has been doing its job quietly and without fanfare. It will never allow itself to be used as a tool for political persecution or harassment, or as an instrument to hamper competition in trade and commerce. It is not, and will never be, beholden to anyone but the Filipino people.” It said in a statement.
People alleged to be involved in money laundering activities have questioned the AMLC, but the agency said it “will continue to discharge it’s legal mandate without fear or favor. Any and all issues concerning a pending case should be raised by the parties before the proper court.” (Philstar 5/16)
sykes says
ok. not a tool.
but still a TOOL (someone in AMLC is) for giving some media pipol what is supposed to be confidential info.
is the report public document na o di pa?
NHerrera says
These guys are intelligent. Akala ko pa-dadamahin muna si Binay bago babanatan, as is their usual style. But the stench of the smell is such that it will be an embarrassment if not a squeak comes from them. If the winner is X, it will be X they will aim their fire after some short period of honeymoon.
Besides Casino seems to have a better balance of his politics than, say, Colmenares, and that other young kiddo, Reyes. We have not heard from that other — Juana Change, have we?
Vhin AB says
Well, if you will just compare Casino against Colmenares and Juana Change then most probably he has more balance than the other two. But their ideology is just the same.
Sa tagal na ng mga isyu against Binay ay ngayon lang nagsalita. Sa Chinese incursion halos nakakabingi ang katahimikan nila considering that they all have comments sa kahit maliliit na issues.
NHerrera says
Agree.
vander says
wah na siyang ma-change.
namaga.
di na maibuka ang bibig.
one time big time din ang peg. hehehe…
caliphman says
I am so underwhelmed by this controversy of trading our claim over Sabah for Malaysia’s support in our dispute over China over several contested reefs. Clearly, someone at dfa had the insane idea that giving up a queen for a pawn was great strategy. No one least of all Pinoy is going to subscribe to such a ludicruously lopsided plan, let alone owning up to authoring or approving it. The only real question that remains is finding out who in dfa was responsible for this inexcusible gaffe and arranging for that person ot persons to seek an alternative career.
raissa says
Ftom what my sources yold me, the offer came rrom malaydia, not our dfa.
The dfa redponse yo ,slasia’sofferveas – wewill study it. No harm in doing thst unless it bringsbout a plan of action snd undertskes implementation tjat in effevt would drop sabah claim?
caliphman says
Thats an entirely different version as that put forward by the Verafiles people. Baycas posted a link earlier to a tordesillas blog article which claims it was dfa initiated and points the finger at Pinoy. Of course that site would also be expected to blame the recent megaquakes in Nepal on Pinoy as well. But someone really should get the facts and story straight on what actually happened between the dfa and their Malaysian counterparts, no?
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
In diplomatic language, we will study it means the same as “tignan natin” in Filipino.
Or maybe, may bigote. Those who don’t get the nuances of diplomatic language misinterpret.
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
http://wordinthewind.weebly.com/word-in-the-wind/the-diplomatic-language
There is a reason why the warrior Napoleon had a love-hate relationship toward the great diplomat Talleyrand.
Tungkol naman sa DFA, I have the impression that some of them make unauthorized comments to outsiders they should not make. Like the late Ambassador Tony Modena once told me (former chain-smoking, hard-drinking, bastos-talking journalist who was anything but diplomatic many times) ang Pilipino minsan masyadong madaldal kahit nasa puwesto na hindi siya dapat magsalita masyado. We have examples in the Palace people who twittered about “walang guwapo dito” about Vietnam, or the DFA person who twittered the official position of the Philippine re Bentham Rise to Joe America even if Joe is not an accredited journalist or a member of the foreign diplomatic corps – US State Department would not make such mistakes, much less the classic diplomats of UK Foreign Office.
caliphman says
Thats all nice and good..but your point is?
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
Two points:
1) we will study it means practically nothing, just like OK…
2) we do not know how much basis the Tordesillas article actually has.
To add one thing: if I were to decide, I would make the price for dropping Sabah HIGH: Malaysia would have to, in return, promise (in writing, as in treaty) not to accept any territories that belong to the Philippines (Bangsamoro for example) as states.
Dealing with Muslims who have an bazaari mentality, magpakapalengkero tayo.
caliphman says
Tordesillas with all her biases, I would take seriously as like Raissa, she has her own inside contacts and networks. She certainly has more integrity than Tiglao or Tatad or Roque. Whether the dfa or malaysia initiated the discussions, the fact remains the paper trail left the appearance of the Philippines seeming to offer a quid pro quo on its Sabah claim and left the president vunerable. It was altogether unnecessary and the responsibility for which belongs to the dfa.
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
Yep, fully agree. It was what I meant when I wrote that it seems some people in the Philippine government don’t know when they should be quiet or not.
And when to put up a united front instead of talking in all directions and making it difficult for the leadership. The Philippines too often seems like a loose bundle of sticks. Unlike the tied together bundle of sticks Bulgarian Khan Kubrat asked his sons to break more than a thousand years ago which they could not break – leading to the national motto “unity makes strength” which is still on the Bulgarian coat of arms to this day – like E Pluribus Unum for the USA.
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
From the 7th century: Съединението прави силата – Unity makes strength.
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
Or, closer to home, the Indonesian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhinneka_Tunggal_Ika – Unity in Diversity.
Without unity the Philippines has no chance in the long run.
vander says
[email protected] ireneo,
“like a loose bundle of sticks”
yes we are.
that is in aid of grandstanding and posturing, not limited to credit-grabbing.
we are also loose cannons!
can’t avoid talking when shutting the mouth is the best option….
Pinay710 says
Noong panahon ng GUIAPO PLAZA MIRANDA ang mga gumaganap noon ay mga taong parang kulang sa kakgandahang asal dahil kahit PERSONALan ang kanilang itinatapon sa kapwa.
NGUNIT dito sa RAISSA CPM kaibang kaiba. TALAGANG TALAGA PO NAMANG HANGGANG HANGA KAMING MAG AAMIGA sa mga KNIGHTS na sina SIRS baycas, rene ipil, parekoy, vander, nherrera, at iton bandang huli si sir ireneo. At sa mga KNIGHTINGALES na sina MADAMS(?)yvonne, leona, cha, chit ay hindi maitatanggi na mga EDUKADO, MARARANGAL AT MAY PAKUNDANGAN SA DAMDAMIN NG ISA’T ISA.
HINDI po kami nagsasawa basahin at paglimiin bawat mga salitan nyo ng kuro kuro dahil marami po kaming natututunan at nadikobreng mga kaliwanagan sa mga matag na namin katanungan tungkol sa ating pamahalaan,
MARAMI PONG SALAMAT SA INYONG LAHAT.
vander says
we are all-in in this advocacy for progressive Phl @pinay710.
:)
yvonne says
OFF TOPIC BUT VERY TIMELY
The massive loss of lives in the Kentex sandal factory in Valenzuela is inexcusable, preventable, and very unfortunate, if not criminal. To add insult to injury, the victims are (were) poor people who endure low salaries, poor and unsafe working conditions for a very long time.
It seems like we have not learned any lesson from the tragic disco fire in Quezon City that also resulted in a massive loss of lives. If I remembered right, it was only last year that the owners of the disco house were found guilty of criminal negligence and sent to jail – another reminder on how slow the wheel of justice rolls in our country.
The tragedy in Valenzuela would not have happened if our government officials were only doing their jobs. For the life of me, I cannot understand how building inspectors and fire officials could have allowed a building to operate with window bars window that would prevent those inside from escaping in case of a fire.
In the city where I live, window bars are illegal – many years ago they were legal but only if they have quick disconnect feature that would allow for its quick opening from the inside in case of a fire. In businesses, doors and fire exits have to remain unlocked during business hours. Business buildings cannot have more people inside than its allowed occupancy. Hallways must have a certain width of unobstructed passage way free from any clutter. Multiple electrical loose cord connections are not allowed. And welding is not allowed unless a safe perimeter around the area is secured first, and welders must be qualified. I would think that our building and fire codes also provide for many of these safety measures but their implementation have been lax, if not totally ignored.
Vhin AB says
Our building code I guess is enough when it comes to safety precautions but if the inspectors will just ignore it because of bribes then balewala lahat. All of them should go to jail pero malabo pa yan sa sabaw ng pusit. It will take years before a single person gets jailed. Very sad, very unfortunate. With all the media exposures that our DOJ people get sana naman may managot. Dapat may nakakulong na sa kanila ngayon.
raissa says
Dapst
Buti na lang next year sy election year.
NHerrera says
I believe we have earned praises for crafting plans and laws; but generally fail in implementation. We have as culprit the usual suspect which I need not spell out.
leona says
Watching on TV the dialogue between the kins of the victims with the lawyer for Kentex, hindi alam ng kins what to do next.
Kins should sue for civil and criminal cases – KENTEX and it’s owners, officials and the Valenzuela City gov’t and its officials in charge of Safety Code of factories.
Kins should see the PAO office! to help them out.
Kentex was a DEATH TRAP not only a Fire Trap! Why grills and screens on windows of that factory was allowed? To avoid stealing of slippers etc.? It could have placed CCTV CAMERAS instead to check any stealing.
Rene-Ipil says
Binay is a goner. But we must remain vigilant on his moves as well as those of the Marcoses, GMA, Estradas, Enriles, Revillas, etc.
We must focus now on the next president who can preserve and continue the achievements of the Aquino administration, and beyond. We need to elect a competent and honest president in 2016 and 2022 at the least.
Roxas cannot beat Binay, Poe or Duterte in 2016. But I think Binay or Poe will not run as president in the next elections for reasons I already discussed in this blog. In any case I believe that Duterte could easily beat Roxas, Binay or Poe in 2016.
So, I go for the Duterte-Roxas tandem in 2016. Duterte is already 70 years old and suffering from spine injury. Roxas is 55 years old and still young to become president in 2022. Roxas can also takeover as president in the event of incapacity by Duterte. On November 8, 2014 PDI reported:
“DAVAO CITY—Mayor Rodrigo Duterte admitted here that one of the reasons he is not interested in running for President in 2016 was a spinal injury he suffered in a past accident that continues to give him backaches and limits his mobility.”
Even the LP welcomes Duterte as its standard bearer. On April 12, 2015, Durian Post in Davao reported:
“The Liberal Party (LP) has welcomed the possibility of picking Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte as its candidate in the 2016 presidential derby, according to two allies of President Benigno Aquino.”
Mayor Duterte was a PDP-Laban member who switched party and became LP Chairman in Davao City in 2009. Rappler reported on March 18, 2015:
“Duterte became LP chair in Davao City in 2009 after former party head Peter Laviña relinquished the post in favor of the soon to be 70-year-old mayor.
“Duterte was a member of the Partido Demokratiko ng Pilipino-Laban (PDP-Laban) but switched party in 2009 in preparation for the 2010 national elections.”
Parekoy says
You are going for a Killer?
If your preference is a Killer, then Lacson is a better Killer Prresident!
But I am disappointed with your choice, Duterte is no a Presidential material, he is a goon, a criminal, a warlord who happens to habe absolute control of Davao City through intimidation. i will never choose him even he is selling himsekf as Kamay na Bakal for his brand of governance will not move s forward as a nation.
Many are discounting Roxas, but those in the know, even UNA is afraid of Roxas for he is the man to beat in the 2016 Presidential elections. He has the organization, the experience, the integrity, the intelligenve, and most of all, the least evil among contenders. Surveys were biased towards Binay, because Bibay paid for it.
Now that Binay’s misfortunes are unrecoverable and affect his winnability, Binay, Erap, and Enrile’s camp of thieves is propping Pie as an alternative to save their skins.Aquino is courting Poe to be the VP of Roxas to rob UNA of control on Poe and Neutralizes Poe to campaign against LP. Even Poe runs as a President against Binay, Duterte and Roxas, Roxas will most likely win.
As outside pundits not privy to info, some of you have myopia. As an insider, the perspective is different.
You will be amazed how the LP covers everything in the coming elections. If you are in awe of Binay, Poe’s popularity, if you have info of LPs the masterplan, Binay, Poe, and Duterte are just footnotes who are easily taken care of.
Don’t you know that the biggest Mafia in our current government is LP, and they are not letting go otf their lucrative enterprise to theirvfellow thieves, Binay and a local warlord Duterte. Poe is just a pawn and will be used as one by these longtime Mafiosis.
The LP Mafia has chosen their President, and Roxas it is!
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
Makes much sense. LP is “Mafia” in the sense of having the most modern type of party machinery. The other guys have old school “Mafia” ways of doing things while your descriptions of LP sound more like “House of Cards” Filipino style. Still Filipino style but more like the modern political party machineries you have in more “civilized” countries like for example here in Germany. I can sense why Duterte is careful not to move forward, he is a goon but a smart one and knows his personal limits.
Really smart gangsters know where their turf/hood is, where they are effective and where they are not. The rules in Davao are not the same as in Manila. Even if Duterte won, he would not be able to play the system in Manila, he would lose against it. The last provincial warlord type who managed to beat the system in Manila at least spent some time learning how it worked first hand – Ferdinand Marcos.
The only other party that could revitalize itself to become a competition to LP is the old NP, but that apparatus is in total disarray – just my impression from far away. Could possibly become strong again if Trillanes assumes its leadership, but he seems too much of a lone wolf, lacking allies.
Rene-Ipil says
Parekoy
If you have worked with Ping Lacson or Rolly Abadilla before, maybe your claim has substance. If not, huwag mo akong paandaran.
If you have post graduate studies and practical experience in scientific social surveys, maybe your claim has substance. But if you have none, tahimik ka muna.
If you were at least a local political kingpin in your town, city or province, maybe your claim has substance. Otherwise, pick another man.
If you have worked with the best election lawyers in the country, maybe your claim has substance. If not, try to familiarize yourself with election laws, procedures and practices – legal or otherwise.
Incidentally, I am in the same page with Duterte insofar as his scheme on government decentralization is concerned. Don’t blame me if I know more about decentralization and devolution of government powers than an ordinary man in the street.
My advice. So as not to disappoint you further, just comment on my ideas and avoid comments about my personal traits, knowledge, skills or experiences. Are we clear?
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
I find Duterte’s ideas on decentralization very good – it would increase the democratic buy-in across the country. The aspect where I fear that Parekoy may be right is that Duterte may have a hard time going against an established and sophisticated party machinery like that of the LP.
It is very difficult to to do that – never underestimate the tenacity of established power cliques. Meaning not only LP, but also “Imperial Manila” which is what Duterte will finally be up against.
Duterte is smart, even visionary in many ways. But can he beat the system, the key players? Instinctively the stuff Parekoy is writing makes sense to me with the different LP interest groups. Drilon looks like a really smart player to me, much like boxing promoter Don King at his best…
From my far away view and my instincts, it does look like Duterte may have a chance – but he is biding his time and watching for an opening. The guy is streetsmart and knows his game.
He will not enter a fight where he has a less than 50% chance of winning, pakiramdam ko…
Rene-Ipil says
I mentioned already that Duterte belongs to LP like Roxas and Drilon. He is also close to PNoy. In fact he was the first choice of PNoy for DILG position, but Duterte politely rejected PNoy’s offer before. Duterte was also anointed by Cory as vice mayor of Davao City in 1986.
I believe Duterte will run as president ONLY when PNoy and LP endorse him In tandem with Roxas. He is that smart.
Parekoy says
You are really uninformed!
Duterte will never be anointed as LP Presidential Candidate by Aquino!
I am sorry to crush your hope that Duterte will be anointed and even if not and run will never win.
You just cast your lot to a sure loser. Even anointment of Aquino is remote.
Better find another candidate to back lest you will be losing any credibility still left in political punditry…
Rene-Ipil says
You are entitled to your own opinion. And I am entitled to mine. Take it or leave it. Thank you and good day.
Ancient Mariner says
Parekoy, if you drop or change your supercilious style of writing you will win more friends, no enemies and CPMers won’t have to suffer the cat fights your are frequently involved in.
Humility is a virtue.
Parekoy says
If you read what I declared before, my main purpose is to educate and some agitation will make the readers use their dormant brain cells.
Of course my positions will not be liked by everybody and I expect challenges. That is the beginning of deeper understanding since the other side will dig deeper, analyze better, be mindful of their logic and leave the debate a more informed and better analyst. So even he or she or I lose the debate all of us remain as winners.
Those who are losers are the whiners and take the arguments personally and wait for an opening to regain his/imagined lost pride.
I am not humble, I am confident of my opinions. And I repeat, my goal here is to educate our netizens who are just starting to understand how our rotten political system works, the betrayals, the horsetradings, the demolition jobs, the leeches and parasites and the way people and fellow politicians are used to their personal gains.
My first goal was to show the readers that they can make a difference just by flooding the disqus or comment sections of the columists and reportes. Our first trophy was Conrad DeQuiros head for he betrayed his principles for some crumbs from Binay.
Carmen Pedrosa is smart though, she knows the power of the Netizens and she chose to turn-off the comment or feedback section.
Philstar is deluded with comments challenging their columnists. I was even surprised when some netizens spent their time debunking Cacho-Olivares of Tribune.
Before Joeam made a mistake of outright discounting and maligning PD Inquirer and lump the established newspaper as tabloid. He is an ignorant fool when it comes to our political history and dynamics of institutions. PDI as I fairly criticized them that they are still the most reliable source of infor with sometimes a downpour of propaganda but the goods and the bads usually cancels each other.
PDI is in the transformation though for now they are sensitive about their integrity now with vigilant netizens checking them in the speed of light. Their team has still some pride and not yet sold thei soul to do a shameless propaganda. The editorial team is still mindful and they skillfully write their slants in a subtle and with some corroboration. Though their sensationalism is sometimes unwelcome but we should understand that it is a business and they are catering for a diverse group of readers thus the colorful mix of offerings.
I suggest though to PDI and Philstar to not frequently hide from unnamed sources, they could always provide the readers with enough info about the source that the article is not misleading as a concoction of the reporter just to fill their pages.
My next goal is to let the Netizens acquire more analytical skills in a complex sense and they should be able to connect the dots from history, past articles, pronouncements, how to read a concerted blitz, what is diversions (like now BBL is not in the headlines and being railroaded in the house), why they don’t follow up on certain stories (meaning may nabayaran at nabusalan na) and why they don’t relentlessly and vigilantly remind the readers of the past scandals and what is the current status:
1.What happened to Corona’s case?
2. What about the 2000 Containers of Go of Pure Gold which robbed our government billion of pesos in taxes,.
3. Why isit that AMLC not looking into Jiggoy, bong and Enriles account?
4. Why the CEZA still operating normally and a great resource of Enrile’s gravy train?
5. What happened to Gloria’s and Mike Arroyos and their children’s ill-gotten wealt why AMLC is not involve?
6. Why is Alcala and his cohorts are exonerated in their PDAF cases? and a lot more)
7. What happened to PNP chief Purisima
8. Why is it that PNP Chief slot is not yet field as well as COA while Customs
ousterreplacement was done in record speed of light?9. What happened to the investigation of the Judicial funds?
10. Why is it that Napoles hubby is not in jail and her youngest now treated with kid gloves?
My longterm goal is how do Netizens harness the newfound power of the Fifth State? How are we going to spread the truth and exposed the shnanigans and corruptions as well as incomptence of our Public Officials? How are we going to have a viable complaint repository which will be maintained until the matter is close? How are we going to effectively influence our poor to at least understand the basic fundamentals of choosing a better or lesser evil candidate and not trade their precious votes for a measely packet of noodles, sardines and rice and a pack of cigarettes? How do we neutralize the deleterious effect of INC, Jesus is Lord, El Shaddai, and Catholic Church endorsements and the quid pro quo it brings to the table? How do we force the Oligarchs to share their profits and the economic growth inclusive so that our middle class will grow and poverty will be alleviated?
A lot of goals but if the Netizens help each other, we will become a formidable rce to contend with and the establishment of the Fifth State is secure.
If FOI is made into law, then that will leap us to great progress and the landscape of corruption will be changed dramatically. We will have a fresh start and the expectations will be set in a good and monitored. Politicians and Public Officials and other institutions as well as the Oligarchs will be put on notice that a new set of standard is imposed and people are willing to fight for their inherent rights that government should work for the benefit of the greater good and not only catering for the entrenched few and Political Dynasties are no longer welcome.
Meritorcracy is the new order and transparency a must.
I am a dreamer but also a worker. I dream, I set goals, and work hard for meeting those goals. I hope a lot of Netizens share my dreams and the passion to pursue of reaching them!
Parekoy says
Di kita pinapaandran dahil I am just helping you to improve yourself in the political front.
Legal wise maybe meron kang alam but politically, amateur ka pa.
As many here observed, I share relevant insider info. I knew in advancethat Binay will be cornered due to his ill-gotten wealth, for it was planned long before and was decided by the political geniuses in LP that ill-gotten wealth is Binay’s Achilles Heels.
LP got the goods on Binay, NP and PDP are in connivance with them, that is why Trillanes, Cayetano and Pimentel relentlessly staged theunending sagaof Binay’s corruption exposes. LP geniuses planned the releases in a timely order to achiev maximum damage.
I am here for the educatioof our Netizens and don’t paint anybody orany party an angel. They are all crooks, but we have to learn how to compromise and chooes the crooks who we can work with and at least advance our nation’s interest.
Duterte, Binay, and Poe unfortunately are not the answer. LP is for our curent woes.
But make no mistake, LP will be in our crosshairs too in their future corruptions and reviving the current ones, but for now LP is the lesser evil.
Did I comment on your personal traits? If you review my comments, I criticized your lack of political understanding and not of any of your personal traits.
One could be good in one field but a complete ignorant in another, and I hope you concede in this issue.
Vhin AB says
Concede or not, I didn’t see any personal attack which we are trying to avoid here. We are not here to flaunt our educational achievements, connections and other “paandar”. Stick to issues objectively. Bawasan ang pagiging maramdamin o pagkapikon. Let’s hear what your brain is saying and not your emotion. We like to hear your ideas and theories more.
tristanism says
Get over yourself.
otilrac says
Clap..clap…clap..you heard that loud & clear parekoy…..so….study again muna.
Rolly says
Si Roxas lang ang maaaring magpatuloy sa nasimulan ni Noynoy, walang iba…lagyan pa natin ng diin…walang iba!!! Kahit kumuha pa tayo ng imports, tulad ni Washhington, the Roosevelts, at kung sino sino pang magigiting na lider sa daigdig, corrupt na lalabas kapag namahala sa Pinas.
I share the observation of Parekoy in this regard, though I could not relate it as eloquently as he did.
Marmee says
No truer words were spoken re Duterte, Parekoy, I also don’t want him to be president because of his penchant for the killing of even petty criminals.
Parekoy says
Tanungin natin si Duterte kung sinong drug lord ang kanyang na salvage. Wala dahil mga pusher lang ang kaya nyang banggain yung mga taong walang kapangyarihang rumesbak.
NPA eh nagbibigay sya ng forced tax kasi takot sya sa NPA dahil pwede syang patayin ahil yung mga bodyguards nya eh sisiw yun sa mga NPA.
Pano pa kayaang tulad ni Binay na mas marami pa sa kanya ang pera, armas, at private army, eh di sya uubra don, mga Mafiosi lang na malakasang pweng bumangga dahil organized sila from AMLC, DOJ, COA, BIR, PNP, AFP, SC, DILG, media, oligarchy, at iba-iba pang component ng nakauping sindikatong kontrolado ang gobyerno. Si Enrile nga nadale na di kaya ni Macoy na diktador eh nalamat ng LP Mafiosi, si Duterte eh pipitsugin lang yan sa hanay ng mga sindikato sa Maynila. Si Duterte eh parang kanto boy lang yan kumpara sa LP Mafia.
Kaya yung mga nabibilog yung ulo ni Duterte eh mga mahihina sa larangan ng pulitika dahil nakabasa lang ng write-up na propaganda ni Duterte eh kinagat kaagad.
Good to know na you are a thinking person at di padalus-dalos.
Ako nga ang posisyon ko is based on current info pero pag may agong development eh pwedeng kumambyo dahil naiba nanaman ang landscap, but for now LP talaga with Roxas ang kinakatakutan ng oposisyon dahil portektado na si PNoy, tuloy ang selective na Tuwid na Daan, at sa kulungan na tatanda lalo si Enrile, jinggoy, at Bong, at the same time talot ang oposisyon dahil tutuluyan na talaga sila Binay. Kalaboso si Binay, jojo, junjun, at elenita, pag nanalo si Roxas at impeached malversation kay Nancy at Abi at unexplained wealth.
Ganon katindi at bangis ng LP at alam ng LP pag nanalo si Binay eh abswelto si Enrile, Jinggoy, at Bong. Kulong sigurado si Abad, Drilon, Alcala, at si PNoy ay may nakabinbin lang na kaso para neutralize din pero di ikukulong dahil mag-aalsa ang faction ng military dahil excuse yun na abusado si Binay. Installed si Trillanes nyan as President ng Junta.
Speculations but with a very likely possibility ang tawag dyan.
vander says
as i said before, Too-dirte is not presidentiable.
poe is so trapo at her freshness.
of course, yung nagpaparaya ang karapat-dapat.
pwede na, mar po lamang…
NHerrera says
WOW. The election heat and campaign has come early in CPM. Yes, election sparks a-flying.
SERIOUSLY. Not being privy to or having the critical facts to help me make sense of the configuration of this thrilla, I will just observe, sniff around, do more head-work.
BUT ON A PHILOSOPHICAL TONE, I wish to write some notes.
If one knows that one side is employing the most dirty or criminal ways to have its criminal candidate win, would the other side just play the saintly way to do battle? Politics is not for the Saints. That is why the religious whose Kingdom is not of this world should not engage in any part of politics as Arguelles has done — he has grievously stained his religious calling, urged on by that Martial Law politician Tadtad.
The other side even admitting to not being a saint but “less evil” may to my mind employ dirty methods short of being criminal (?) to prevent the criminal candidate from winning.
I cannot admit to either side having no spies on the other side. Not to employ such scheme to my mind (again we are talking here of the domain of politics — and politics most dirty as it still is in the country) is being irresponsible and lacking in basic intelligence and street smart. And who has the bigger resources now, who has the ball now, and who has also hides to protect, to make the list complete? I say this, especially if that side knows that the criminal or evil side has already sustained a mortal or near-mortal wound.
End of my philosophizing.
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
What I think we are all witnessing now is the modernization of Philippine politics – the new school of politicians are exposing the old school’s more obvious, less refined schemes. Similar to what happened in Korea in the mid-90’s – or in Bavaria during the so called Amigo affair in 1993.
Overall such a development decreases the more primitive and dirtier forms of taking advantage of political positions, which is a good thing per se. Only the citizen should never be so naive to believe that there are saints in politics. Anywhere in the world, starting at a certain level there are no virgins.
The political and judicial system with its checks and balances can only be tightened to check abuses, in such a case if less happens, it is like Oscar Wilde’s saying “virtue is often only lack of opportunity”.
NHerrera says
Nice to know your studies show the usual evolution of politics from (ultra) dirty to the more benign kind. Oscar Wilde knew politics.
baycas says
I guess Comment Nos. 10 and 11 both have ‘sparks.’
The former, literal; the latter, adversarial…
Yours, @NHerrera, philosophical.
baycas says
On ‘dirty politics,’ please read the Quote of the Day here posted by mlq3.
NHerrera says
baycas,
I like MLQ3’s quote from Joaquin “Chino” Roces; and I post it below. It is more subtle and delicately written than the rough language I have expressed above.
MLQ3 Quote of the day:
A lot of our people who belong to the best elements will have nothing to do with politics because they believe it is dirty. In other words, they leave politics to those who are not so clean, and then wonder why the government does not run as well as it should; the opposition to have anything to do with it, they say, is that they themselves may get contaminated.
— Joaquin “Chino” Roces
baycas says
To which I then commented:
NHerrera says
Right. Politics — that word is enough, no need to use all the adjectives: dirty, tainted by, etc. It is a redundancy alright. But somehow we humans indulge in redundancy even when are conscious of it (I don’t know the many times I have succumbed). Ah, language … (Confession: got reasonably good grades in science and math related subjects in school, but not so in the communication arts. Still learning here at CPM.)
baycas says
No, NH.
You communicate well.
I don’t know how many times I just read your reflections. Thanks for them.
NHerrera says
:-)
NHerrera says
WHAT ME, WITHDRAW? “I started it. I will finish it,” says VP Binay
Brave words that —
AS AGAINST SEN TRILLANES STATISTICS: THE ODDS
– “If the main Blue Ribbon Committee invites me, I will come”; he didn’t.
– “I will not back out of the debate with Trillanes”; he did.
Odds on backing out from Presidential race — 2 out of 3 or 67%.
THUS the odds per Sen Trillanes data is better than the win of PK in the FOTC.
Hahaha.
Rene-Ipil says
PNoy said that self determination of the Sabah people trumps or outranks all other considerations including historical rights.
I agree. The people of Sabah should be allowed to determine for themselves whether they want to become part of Malaysia or Philippines, or to belong to an independent State together with the Sulu Archipelago. The creation of the Bangsamoro is a step in the right direction that should culminate towards self determination of the Tausugs of Sulu Archipelago and Sabah.
On March 5, 2013, I wrote in this blog:
“The Tausugs from Sulu and Tawi-Tawi were never subjugated by the Spaniards, Americans and “Filipinos”. And they never considered themselves “Filipinos” before and now. But Tausugs and “Filipinos” are brother Malays.
I mean that “Filipinos” (derived from King Felipe or Philips) are those who were the subjects before of the Spaniards and then the Americans and given independence in 1946. Needless to say, Tausugs were always a free people but only collaborated with the “Filipinos” latter for practical reasons. For centuries they have their homeland consisting of the Sulu Archipelago and Sabah or North Borneo. But the British and Malaysians hijacked Sabah from them since half a century before.
So, it is NOW proper and fitting that we, the “Filipinos”, allow them to secede and determine their own destiny through an independent State. Moreover, we should help them as brother Malays in convincing Malaysia to allow the people of Sabah, if they so wished, to join and become citizens of an independent State together with the Tausugs.
Of course there are non-Malays in Sabah as well as in the Sulu Archipelago, and they should be allowed to remain with their property intact and to participate in governance of the New State. I surmise that the current leadership in the localities are qualified to govern the new political entity after an election under the auspices of UN.”
M C says
Indeed, even Abas recognizes the proprietary rights of the Sultanate. But since the Sultanate has ceded all its rights to the Philippine Govt, it behooves this govt to pursue the claim. Since it is a proprietary right, the Owner can obligate those staying there to get out for they are just plain and simple squatters. They have allocated the land for themselves without any permission from the Owner. By the fact that Malaysia is paying rent, they recognize such proprietary right. A plebiscite is never the proper remedy to determine tenants of a property that is owned.
NHerrera says
A PAUSE BUT NOT ONE THAT REFRESHES
Philstar — Phivolcs chief explains timing of feared 7.2 quake (May 16, 2015 – 11:44am)
http://www.philstar.com/nation/2015/05/16/1455406/phivolcs-chief-explains-timing-feared-7.2-quake
Excerpts:
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MANILA, Philippines — The feared magnitude 7.2 earthquake caused by a movement of the West Valley Fault traversing Metro Manila may strike any time based on historical data, the country’s top geoscientist said.
Renato Solidum, director of the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs), said it has been 357 years since the 90-kilometer fault system shifted, reiterating the agency’s warning issued back in 2013.
“Ang kada galaw ng [West Valley Fault] ay 400 to 600 years at ang last niyang gumalaw ay 1658—357 years ago,” he said in an interview Friday over dzMM. “So 357 and 400, magkalapit ‘yan kasi either gumalaw ‘yung fault nang mas maaga or mas later.”
…
Jerry Velasquez, United Nations International Strategy for Disaster Reduction regional coordinator, explained in a Facebook post that the magnitude 7.2 earthquake is “not a prediction over a specified time.”
“Rather it is the estimated largest credible earthquake that can be generated by movement of the Valley Fault System–which runs right through Metro Manila–based on available geological and seismological data,” Velasquez explained.
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duquemarino says
Good to know PNoy’s stand on the issue and a big challenge to the next President and Congress.
I hope he reiterates that in his last SONA.
baycas says
I hope he mentions it too.
NHerrera says
PRESENT VALUE CONCEPT APPLIED TO THE BBL
Inquirer — Enemy of the good (3:49 AM, Saturday, May 16th, 2015)
http://opinion.inquirer.net/84939/enemy-of-the-good
Edilberto C. de Jesus, professor emeritus at the Asian Institute of Management, offers an interesting business perspective to the BBL, particularly the notion of “present value.”
Excerpts:
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To conclude an acceptable agreement when a better deal is available would be a mistake. To reject a good bargain in the hope that something better will come along in the future could also be a mistake—and, possibly, a bigger mistake.
Businessmen place much importance on the concept of “present value”; in simple terms, the “bird in hand better than bird in bush.” One hundred pesos in your pocket now is worth more than P100 provided to you 12 months hence. Cash in hand allows a person to address urgent, perhaps, unpostponable needs or opportunities, say, a medical emergency or a one-time investment offer.
Delay can also be more costly, especially if the rejection of the bargain involves a significant measure of risk. A Tagalog proverb, “Aanhin pa ang damo kung patay na ang kabayo (Of what use is the grass to a horse already dead),” implies that the timely delivery of benefits, the grass, might have kept the horse alive.
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NHerrera says
Edilberto C. de Jesus further adds:
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The peace council has endorsed the draft Bangsamoro Basic Law, as compliant with the Constitution and responsive to the needs of the Bangsamoro region. It has recommended refinements in the bill, but believes that these, while affirming constitutional provisions, do not renege on what government negotiators have offered at the peace talks—because they are consistent with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front’s acceptance of integration into the Republic.
The draft BBL is not a perfect law. Elements of the current BBL draft, or of any BBL law, will remain ambiguous, partly because some provisions will need implementing rules and regulations that the Bangsamoro Assembly will pass.
We do appear to demand perfection, a laudable virtue that has earned compliments for our skills in preparing comprehensive, carefully-constructed plans. We get lower marks on implementation and enforcement. Perhaps, our strength in planning relates to our weakness in execution. Plans and laws admirable for their detail may become difficult to implement when overtaken by unexpected developments, for instance, a storm surge of “Yolanda” intensity.
The drive for perfection is commendable, as long as we remember that only God (or Allah) is perfect. What mere mortals produce must remain imperfect. Legislators impose an impossible task on themselves when they ambition to craft a law that will deliver all potential benefits and avert all potential problems.
Some of the laws promulgated by the Bangsamoro Assembly may prove vulnerable to challenges on constitutional grounds. Happily, our system provides for a Supreme Court that can rule on these issues. To those who questioned the constitutionality of some provisions in the draft Local Government Code, Fr. Joaquin Bernas, SJ, offered a standard reply: “Let the Supreme Court decide.”
We do not need a perfect BBL. Peace advocates (and legislators) must avoid trying to load all of their noble ideas into the law. Better to focus on ensuring that the law is clean of any provisions that are obviously unconstitutional, demonstrably discriminatory, or clearly impractical. What is crucial is the availability of mechanisms that permit Bangsamoro and national institutions to make corrections in the law as needed.
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Irineo B. R. Salazar says
http://joeam.com/2015/03/29/bangsamoro-basic-law-managing-risks/ – the major risks of BBL must not be ignored. Nothing is perfect, but using that as an excuse for major flaws is not the right way.
Unconstitutional is less important than risky for the future, if you ask me – I go by what can happen.
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
Nothing is perfect can be used as an excuse for the vices of Erap, the corruption of Binay etc. – anyway kapag talagang naasar ako I will write another article about BBL, my article as [email protected] was after I read the 122 pages for the first time. Now I see even more issues, major major ones.
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
And may I add, that I will write another article on BBL is not a threat – it is a promise.. :-)
But what I will wait for is what lawmakers make out of it, let them do their job first… Forging peace is a very delicate matter, give too little war continues, give too much it gets even worse.
NHerrera says
Irineo,
We thinking guys all have our individual notions and analyses of opportunities and risk. Thank goodness for the freedom of expression that the citizens at least can avail of — unlike say if one is in China or Russia. I shudder what will happen to the contributors here, myself included, on some commentaries made. Cheers.
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
Yes, thank goodness for that freedom. What worries me a bit is that with stuff like Sharia in the BBL, freedom may be curtailed in that area, effectively making it a dictatorship run by ex-MILF people. But there will be a referendum there anyway.
NHerrera says
Right.
Kalahari says
It’s unlikely but not impossible that the main aim of BBL – which is lasting peace – may remain an elusive dream if the BBL is finally approved courtesy of PNoy.
With a well-armed army roughly equivalent to a military-sized Division – and with a coffers filled to the brim that may run to P100 billions a year, not to include foreign aid from Malaysia and other Islamist countries, the enforcement of Sharia Law, etc among those residing within the BBL territories that include sizeable Christians, the possibility of resistance to established authorities is not far-fetched and may ignite into violence the deep-rooted hatred against the non-believers similar to the 30 Ethiopian Christians slaughtered by the ISIS in a beach in Libya.
Before the executions, a masked militant said: “To the nation of the cross, we’re back again. Muslim blood that was shed under the hands of your religion is not cheap.”(Catholic Herald 4/20/15)
baycas says
Related article:
baycas says
Related blog post to the Vera Files article above that is still awaiting moderation:
http://www.ellentordesillas.com/2015/03/31/dfa-is-misleading-public-in-sabah-for-spratlys-issue/
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
The Sabah claim is basically a bargaining chip and something you only drop for something in return, plus you have to consider the minority rights of Filipinos in that area whenever you deal with that.
Similar to the claim West Germany did not officially drop until 1990 that Germany still consisted of the territories in the borders of 1937 – dropping the claim was the price for reunification.
What has to be handled more carefully is the BBL to avoid secession, renewed armament and uncontrolled expansion within Mindanao: http://filipinogerman.blogsport.eu/the-muslim-regions/
edcelis says
Ms Raissa, Please write an article on Mr. Deny Everything Binay… while the coffee is brewing hot…thanks
caliphman says
Its not a whole article and its not from raissa, but its about a hot Binay topic and on something not yet repirted anywhere else….
So is it just me and no one else that has a clue about the origins of this ALMA instigated freeze of the Binay-related accounts? The Binays blame the LP party, the media are either quiet or have no idea, and in this site rumors have been swirling this is due to the work of Pinoy anti-Binay camp of ministers. Nope, schemers and conspiracies lead to the wrong trail. Its origins hark back to the Senate hearings on the Hacienda Binay sale where none other than SPCMB, the firm where the bumbling lawyers Certeza, Subido and Binay’s daughter are a member of, drew attention of the AMLA because of very large transactions between parties represented by members of the firm. When the AMLA started poking into the firm’s bank accounts without prenotifying these lawyers of the rich and infamous, Certeza went running to the Supreme Court on March 11 asking for a TRO to stop the AMLA and the CA who authorized the latter from examining their firm and clients accounts. As is obvious from recent events, the SC denied the TRO and the CA went on to freeze the accounts where the examination showed suspicious probably criminal activity. So why was most everyone caught surprised by the Binay accounts freeze? Because the OMB suspension order and the CA TRO now before the SC captured the media’s attention.
So if anyone asks, you can say you read it here first! Hehehe
http://mobile.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/03/24/15/sc-wont-rule-yet-binay-law-firm-plea-tro/
http://www.hatawtabloid.com/2015/03/26/p1-6b-nabisto-ba-sa-bank-accounts-ng-law-firm-ni-rep-binay/
NHerrera says
Nice.
baycas says
Related thread started by @Martial Bonifacio:
http://raissarobles.com/2015/03/19/someone-claims-im-on-vice-president-binays-payroll-lol/comment-page-1/#comment-268114
I am sure Ed Celis will be able to contribute more.
Walang ‘pataasan ng ihi’ rito…
Hihihi…
caliphman says
None at all, Baycas. Are you claiming credit too because MB is your doppolganger? Heheh…But the point is noone is connecting the failed TRO petition by SPCMB to stop their bank accounts being rifled thru by AMLA with the freezing of the Binay assets. It got lost in the Mayor Binay suspension brouhahaha. Part of the import of this is when charges by the Ombudsman are filed as a result of this evidence as well is that SPCMB itself may be charged with plunder as their accounts were frozen as well; whether as initiator, collaborator, or facilitator remains to be seen. Same with Tiu, etc..etc. It will make it easier to nail Mayor Binay with criminal charges.
But Martial is right when back in March he was fearing and lamenting that the bulk of his illegal wealth would escape the AMLA’s net. It is shame but his concerns have materialized. But the international AMLA agreement which should cover the overseas banks the funds may have been transferred to and they would cooperate in repatriating the funds. What is required to initiate that process is not clear but some sort of organization like the PCGG should be honchoing it, hopefully with better success.
baycas says
Why would I take credit when you want to take all the credit?
Hats off to you, @caliphman, hats off to you!
caliphman says
Who gets the credit for what is not important as learning some of our judicial processes work without media or public pressure. Is it not ironic that it was the same Eduardo Peralta who issued the court order authorizing AMLA to probe the Binay accounts that also issued the TRO against the OMB order to suspend Mayor Binay? Is that what 25 million pesos in the bank can do? Did not Justice Peralta consider the possibility that AMLA may probe his accounts and bring this receipt to light?
NHerrera says
caliphman, I am taking note of the items about
– international AMLA agreement which should cover the overseas banks the funds may have been transferred to and they would cooperate in repatriating the funds — should our agencies initiate; and
– the same Eduardo Peralta who issued the court order authorizing AMLA to probe the Binay accounts that also issued the TRO against the OMB order to suspend Mayor Binay.
Thanks.
NHerrera says
Kaya pala sila Binay-Certeza binabanatan lahat — Senate, Ombudsman, AMLC, PDI, etc — pero hindi ang CA who authorize the probe on Binay and associates bank accounts. VERY IRONIC INDEED.
Merong kasabihan na “nagka-gulo gulo, naghalo ang balat at ang tinalupan.” With CA itself authorizing an in-house investigation on Sen Trillanes charge of some CA Judges accepting bribes on the Binay suspension order TRO; and the SC hot on the trail of the OMB vs CA case, the plot has really thickened.
Am glad to be in the ring side on this game.
baycas says
@NHerrera,
Maybe that goes to show that Eduardo Peralta Jr. was innocent of the bribery allegation.
Trillanes’s ‘testimony’ put suspicion only on Jose Reyes Jr. and Francisco Acosta…as PDI, and most likely other dailies, chronicled.
All are in the CA 6th Division.
baycas says
@NHerrera,
My earlier comment was ‘akismetted.’ Please wait for it.
Anyway, Trillanes only accused Reyes and Acosta of the CA 6th Div.
NHerrera says
baycas, Ok will wait for that note.
NHerrera says
There are twists and turns in the saga, but gratifying that the Pimentel BR Subcom hearing — which featured the Batangas Hacienda and Tiu in several sessions, and where Certeza and Subido appeared — triggered all these, ending in its present form with the revelation of the 242 bank accounts of Binay and associates. The imaginative lawyer-laced novels pale in comparison to this real-life drama.
Bumbling lawyers Certeza, Subido and A Binay of their law firm indeed! That seems to be the problem of trusting a law firm because a daughter is a partner, when a de Campanilla firm which dad Binay can afford should have been hired. But then again the stench is so bad even the latter firm can not stem the tide.
baycas says
@Rene-Ipil pointed to a Manila Times’ Jomar Canlas March 8, 2015 writeup:
http://raissarobles.com/2015/03/19/someone-claims-im-on-vice-president-binays-payroll-lol/comment-page-1/#comment-268265
baycas says
This is Jomar’s March 8, 2015 article:
http://www.manilatimes.net/ca-orders-probe-of-binays-assets/168062/
NHerrera says
Thanks for this link.
baycas says
Related to the OMB:
The names were kept secret. Pretty sure may galamay din si Binay sa loob…
Nonetheless, for me, OMB vs. Binay beats the FOTC…
caliphman says
I believe thats the panel investigating the criminal aspects of the Binay parking building scandal and whose resolution was prematurely released.Their charge is primarily is not fact finding but establishing probable cause that crimes were committed by the Binays and recommending their indictment. It is unlikely that the AMLA probe was triggered by this panel.
baycas says
Read the heading, sir, “Related to the OMB,” not the AMLC. I was zeroing in on the fight between the OMB and Binay…and to reiterate…I believe it’s far better than the FOTC.
Punongbayan talked about “preliminary investigation” on Binay while Canlas, cited before that, talked about the “AMLC investigation.”
Btw, the report is self-explanatory.
caliphman says
Sorry, sir baycas but I have no idea what your point is and how thats connected with the Binay asset freeze which is how this subthread started. Then again its probably my failing because I have no idea what FOTC is or what its short for Since its not mentioned anywhere in the thread.
baycas says
Thanks for reading me just the same.
caliphman says
And why not?…We do not always agree and we get testy at times but I usually learn something from our discussions :)
NHerrera says
MayPac Fight = Fight of the Century = Flight of the Century (as others including Raissa calls it) = FOTC
yvonne says
Just Google:
Raissa Robles + “Binay law firm”
Raissa Robles + “Binay law firm” + AMLC
Raissa Robles + “Binay law firm” + CA
Or any variants anyone wants to use.
NHerrera says
yvonne, thanks for that tip re use of google.
yvonne says
Try goggling just for fun:
Raissa Robles + NHerrera + Yvonne
NHerrera says
Wow. That many ha? Baka pati ang kaluluwa ko makita sa google search na yan. Hahaha.
yvonne says
Kaya meron ka ng dossier sa internet, part of it reads:
Nherrera (male, 76, retired engineer, married with 2 children, and grandchildren, college days in Phils, graduate studies abroad, not yet a reader of Raissa during Corona’s impeachment, joined CPM in 2nd half of 2014, a professor, married, likes to type on a notepad and cut and paste, likes listening to oldies music and watching animated movies.
LOL!
NHerrera says
Patay kang bata ka, NH. Would have to start thinking if I will stick to listening to oldies music and watching animated movies. Less risky — Certeza may begin to research on me, etc. Shudder. :-)
erwin says
@ NHerrera,
“Patay kang bata ka, NH.”
Hahahaha, si Yvonne pa. Yon mga properties ni Thief Corona nahalugad niya sa USA complete with pictures and related documents……hehehehehe
Hindi pa Lowyer ( yeah lowyer at di lawyer ) yan katulad ng mga Abogagos ni Thief Corona at Nognog….especially yon spokesmen ni Nognog…….di ba?
baycas says
Don’t forget the not so secret slide rule society he just formed recently…chanting:
Slide rules!!!
NHerrera says
erwin, baycas,
Again, shudder. :-)
Yes, Slide Rules!
vander says
hahaha.
i’m having fun.
what if the rules slide?!
yvonne says
Thanks baycas for reminding us about the not so secret slide rule society. Now we really need to go underground with the society and I’m using a new handle Y^n in the group because Certeza might start compiling a list of all the people who bought a slide rule in the last 50 years. Lucky me, I was single at that time with a different name.
LOL!
baycas says
@NH, @vander, and @yvonne (in order of appearance):
Hahaha…
baycas says
Related article:
baycas says
[Misplaced comment. No.4 upstairs already published.]
Carmenrosales says
Mula sa isang nag-comment sa PDI kay
Ngat2:
Buong Maynila ay nawasak sa huling digmaan. Nuong 1950’s, naisip ng mga Ayala (na may minana na lupain sa loob ng bayan ng Macati) na gumawa ng isang bagong komunidad na ‘nandoon lahat’, isa sa pinakaunang konsepto sa buong mundo na kung tawagin ngayon ay ‘mixed-use real estate’ o ‘planned community’. Naka-sona para sa residential, commercial, office, institutional (military: ngayon Fort Bonifacio).
Mula 1950’s hanggang 1960’s, itinayo ang mga komunidad (ngayon: subdivisions) at mangilan-ngilang commercial buildings. Mabilis umunlad ang Makati, itinayo ang Makati Stock Exchange (1963), Makati Med (1969), Pamantasan ng Makati (1972), Makati Science High School (1986), atbp. Simula 60’s hanggang ngayon daan-daa’t sari-saring mga magagandang gusali ang itinayo.
Para iklian ang kuwento, ang lahat ng ganda at husay ng Makati ngayon ay dahil sa grupo ng mga Ayala, hindi kay Binay at sinumang mayor. Nguni’t ang Ayala ay isang kumpanya lang; hindi sila ang pamahalaan. Galing nga ba kay Binay ang mga biyaya na natatanggap ng mga mamamayan ng Makati? Hindi! Nakakagulat ba na ang Makati ay nagbibigay ng benepisyo? Hindi! Lahat ng benepisyong natatanggap ng mga taga-Makati ay galing sa ipinapataw na buwis sa libu-libong mga negosyo sa loob ng Makati CBD. May additional allotment pa galing NG.
Nguni’t walang pagkakaiba iyon sa buong Pilipinas. Bawat pamahalaang lokal ng
mga siyudad, munisipio o probinsiya ng Pilipinas ay nagbibigay ng benepisyo sa kanilang mamamayan, may maliit, may malaki. Trabaho nila iyon eh. Natural lang na mas malaki dapat ang ipinapamahaging benepisyo sa mga taga-Makati dahil mas malaking buwis ang natatanggap ng Makati kung ikukumpara sa karamihan ng mga lugar sa Pilipinas. Samakatuwid, saan nagmumula ang benepisyo na ngayo’y natatanggap ng mga taga-Makati? Sa Makati CBD ng mga Ayala. Hindi sa mga Binay.
Nguni’t gusto ng mga Binay na maniwala ang mga taga-Makati na ang mga benepisyong natatanggap nila ay galing sa mga Binay. Ang sarap nga namang mamigay ng ‘aguinaldong’ hindi sa kanya. Mantakin mo, hindi na nga sa kanya galing, siya pa ang pumopogi sa mga taga-Makati lalo na sa mga mahihirap. Kung nasisiyahan kayo sa mga ‘aguinaldo’ na binibigay ng mga Binay, ang tanong, KAYO BA TALAGA ANG NAKIKINABANG?
October 2014. Bilang ‘aguinaldo’ sa Pasko, nagpa-bid ang Makati government ni Junjun Binay nuong October 16, 2014 para sa “groceries, canned goods,T-shirts and bags”. Ang budget para dito ay P260,000,000. Ikumpara natin ito sa 4 na halimbawa ng mga approved budgets sa 2014 (pinoymoneytalkcom):
………………………………………….
Makati’s ‘Aguinaldo’ (4 pcs) – P260,500,000 (more than a quarter of P1 Billion)
Mindanao Development Authority (buong Mindanao) – P99,000,000
National Anti-Poverty Commission (buong Pilipinas) – P149,000,000
Philippine Sports Commission (PSC) – P182,000,000
Philippine Overseas Employment Administration (POEA) (lahat ng kababayan sa abroad)- P334,000,000
…………………………………………..
Totoo kayang iyan ang presyo ng “groceries, canned goods, T-shirts and bags” para ibigay daw sa mga taga-Makati? Mahirap paniwalaan diba! Sa mga naniniwala masyado sa mga Binay, kung hindi kayo nasisiyahan sa nababasa ninyo dito, huwag sana kayong mainis sa mga nagsusulat ng mga comments; kami lang ay taga-hatid ng balita, nagkataon ang balita ay hindi maganda patungkol sa mga Bitay..este Binay. Maghanap at makipagusap sa mga hindi sumasangayon sa inyo, sa gayo’y makabuo kayo ng mas maayos na pananaw.
M C says
Another Roxas paid hack?
baycas says
Possibly a member of Roxas aid pack.
chit navarro says
another intriguing and controversial issue…
one baby step at a time for our brother Muslims.
That’s why the President really wants the next President is one who shares his aspirations and ideas and love for country. Can we not have another 6 years of him? No matter what the antis say about him..
Parekoy says
Nope! Unless the constitution is changed to let the president could run consecutively in two terms, then it is his right.
Aquino had been given a chance to govern. Nobody is indispensible.
If he is so desperately clamor to serve then he could decide to run as President in 2022.
raissa says
no matter the mamasapano?
chit navarro says
Yes… no matter the Mamasapano…
No one, nobody is assured of tomorrows… more so with soldiers trained for combat. Once soldiers are on the field, their life is already half in the afterlife… that’s par for the course of their chosen profession.
And the consequences after were just too magnified by media friendly to those hostile to PNoy…
Yes, nobody is indispensable but at this time, we need an incoming President with the moral ascendancy as Pres. Aquino to prosecute corrupt officials, especially those who seem untouchable. Otherwise, whatever gains we have now in this administration will just be blown away…
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
I had a longer conversation with a friend, a former French foreign legionary, a man of character and insight – about Mamasapano, China, and the Philippine situation. His take:
1) There may have been some element of treachery and betrayal within ranks from what happened at Mamasapano, but also incompetent military leadership, amateurism not even a municipal volunteer fire brigade in Europe could afford to show, but worst of all lack of national unity.
2) No chance at all against China, they will not even take Catapang’s recent attempts at provocation seriously but just laugh. America is biding its time, one aircraft carrier in the area and they can make the Chinese run back home. China can take anything it wants from the Philippines in passing.
3) What LCPL_X wrote in Joe’s blog about China flooding Southeast Asia with drugs – he laughed and told me that is something they have been doing for twenty years, guys have you woken up to it just now. He thinks also that Veloso is not an innocent victim but part of the organization, albeit low-level.
4) The Philippines is what it is, not because of colonial powers, but due to complacency. He told me you guys fell asleep, got too comfortable. Mamasapano and China were wake-up calls, but I think it is too late. That strong combat veteran had to take a seat after he said that, looking sad.
5) I badgered him a bit later about that – I said it does look like it is 5 to midnight – the German term for almost too late. He said I don’t know, could be midnight already, I am not a prophet. I told him I hope it isn’t midnight already. We bid our goodbyes, we meet very seldomly…
yvonne says
Just subscribing to email notification.
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
This is good. Contrary to what some people think because of President Aquino’s nerdy and mild-mannered exterior, he is not soft and giving in too much. Hindi siya nagpapalamang which is good, especially in the difficult context of politics between Malay dominions which have always been treacherous and thorny.
P.S. Commercial break: tomorrow another installment of my history series is coming out in my blog: Philippine History. Part II – State. Section 1 – Founding Fathers. I would welcome your comments there. :-)
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
Most important bonmot in that article: “Aguinaldo was the first Filipino trapo”… :-)
balayang says
That’s when it all began !!!!
Irineo B. R. Salazar says
exactly! http://filipinogerman.blogsport.eu/philippine-history-part-ii-state-section-1/ :-)