By Raïssa Robles
Instead of getting annoyed at me – which was what happened when I asked President Benigno Aquino in 2011 if it was true he was playing video games during the 2010 Luneta bus hostage crisis – Senator Grace Poe thanked me for publishing US state records on her American citizenship.
Which, by the way came from “Yvonne” and later “Baycas” – both active members of the Cyber Plaza Miranda who congregate on this site.
Thank you, too, @emmcee79 for calling my attention on Twitter about Senator Poe’s direct mention of my name to Senate reporters.
Abante online mentioned Senator Grace Poe’s comments.
Her office also issued a press release which transcribed the “ambush interview.”
This is a portion of the transcript of that ambush interview with Senator Poe that her office officially released:
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GRACE POE AMBUSH INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT
Q: Alam ko nasagot niyo na, pero tungkol sa citizenship ulit. There’s a blog…kay Raissa Robles….
Poe: Oo, sinasabi nga na kinoquote ‘yung aking katapatan. Ako po’y nananatiling tapat. Sa atin pong batas ng dual-citizenship, nakalagay po doon na kailangan mag-renounce ka before public officer. Ako po ay sumumpa doon renouncing–October 2010. Ngayon tungkol dun sa US, nirelease po nila ang aking renunciation 2012. Bakit? Sapagkat sila ay may prosesong napakahaba. Hindi ka basta pupunta sa US embassy para mag-submit…Kailangan doon ang tax return mo doon in the last 5 years, ari-arian mo in the last 5 years. Ang daming dokumento. At isa pa po ang batas lang natin ang babasihan, pwede ko sanang niloko ang ating mga kababayan at nanumpa lang ako sa public officer dito sa pilipinas. Hindi naman nakalagay dun na kailangang pumunta ka sa embassy o sa iba. Ginawa ko po ang nararapat at magmula po noon ang akin pong ginamit ay tourist visa para pumunta sa America. So okay lang po ‘yun. Salamat kay Ms. Robles na inilabas niya ang issue na iyun sapagkat ngayon mas nasasagot ko ng mas malinaw.
Q: So ma’am linawin lang po natin. Kelan niyo sinimulan yung process sa US embassy?
Poe: Sa US Embassy, nagsimula ako ng process, kailangan kong balikan ano, pero parang 2011, kalagitnaan. Bakit? Sapagkat sa batas, complied na ako just by a public officer na Pilipino. Complied na. Pero sabi ko “alam mo hahanapan ako ng butas nito e. Kahit na sabihin nila “if you’re sincere, bakit di ka pumunta ng US embassy?” I did it but before I went there, that’s why it took until the middle part of the year, kinailangan ko munang basahin, nasa internet…Ang laki ng babayaran niyo para mag-renounce, ang dami niyong dokumentong kailangan gawin, hindi ‘to basta basta nagagawa. Kung natatandaan ninyo inappoint ako ni president, magtatapos na ang taon ng 2010, so ang emergency dun ay kailangan ko mag-renounce before a Filipino public officer. ‘Yung sa US Embassy, added bonus na ginawa ko ‘yun pero kinailangan ko ‘yung mga dokumento ipasok talaga lahat.
Q: So it means while you were MTRCB chair, hindi na kayo US citizen?
Poe: And I never used my visa after that and I’m willing to answer it and if they question this in court, ako po ay kumpyansa. Nagsasabi naman po ako ng totoo ukol dito.
UPDATE: @mel found the video of the ambush interview
The citizenship issue is what her political rivals will use against her. It could even reach the Supreme Court.
As my hubby Alan pointed out , “It’s all going to emerge eventually, anyway. The story could emerge late, nasty and twisted for weaponized use by political spin doctors, or it could emerge early, factual and straightforward in this blog as a subject for rational debate and discussion.”
Another thing Alan mentioned to me: in the end Sen. Grace Poe could use the Fernando Poe Jr. solution.
And what is that, I asked him.
Well, he said, when Poe’s citizenship was questioned before the Supreme Court thousands of his supporters massed before the high court. The justices ruled in his favor.
My many thanks to Getty Images for enabling me to embed these highly evocative images.
My reply to Senator Poe: you’re welcome. :)
But one gentle reminder – you still haven’t answered the four questions I put at the end of my story. In case you forgot, here they are:
ONE – What does she intend to do with the pending cases against the Marcoses? And with the fact that the bulk of their ill-gotten and stolen wealth is still hidden abroad? To begin with, does she even (as evidence overwhelmingly shows) think that the Marcoses did stash ill-gotten wealth and should now return the money to the government?
TWO – What is her stand on the South China Sea issue? Will she enter into joint exploration, knowing full well that China will only agree to it if it is done in the context of their sovereignty?
THREE – What is her stand on the criminal cases of Senators Juan Ponce Enrile, Bong Revilla, Jinggoy Estrada and former President Gloria Arroyo? Will the justice department under her watch continue to backstop the pursuit of these cases?
FOUR – What is her stand on any cases that might be filed against President Benigno Aquino once he steps down from office?
Ariel Anthony Tizon
“Article 2 of the said Convention is not applicable to her situation precisely because Article 12 (3) categorically limits Article 2 to those foundlings found after the Convention shall have been in force in the State of the Contracting Party.”
If Article 2 of the 1961 UN Convention is not applicable to Grace Poe, it follows that Article 1 does not apply also to Grace.
Article 1 pertains to a person born in its territory who would otherwise be stateless. Please take note that in Article 1 the person is born in a particular country. How do we know that a foundling is born in a particular country? Article 2 says that a foundling found in the territory of a State shall be considered to have been born within that territory. And that person is born of parents possessing the nationality of that State.” Article 1 should be read in conjunction with Article 2 insofar as foundlings are concerned.
So that a child born by Vietnamese refugees at the South China Sea and found in Philippine shores as foundling shall be considered born in the country. That the child’s parents shall be considered Filipinos. And that the foundling shall be granted Filipino nationality either automatically, by operation of the Philippine constitution and statute, or subsequently, upon application. Granting that the 1961 UN Convention is in force in the Philippines.
We now go to the international custom and practice of recognizing the right of a person to have nationality. Of course a person born of Filipino mother or father is a natural-born Filipino citizen, regardless of such custom. But a foundling has to find refuge in international customary law to have nationality when domestic laws, including the fundamental law or constitution, treaties and conventions do not avail
Has the grant of citizenship to foundlings found in a country been a customary international law? Customary international law is defined by the “Manual on International and Regional instruments Concerning Refugees and Human Rights” as:
“The existing legal rules and practices of states which are so prevalent and generally recognized that they have become the usual norms of civilized states even in cases where those rules are not codified in international treaties or conventions. Customary international law is binding upon all states in their relations with other states. Customary international law can be derived from the general practice of a majority of states, judicial or other legally authoritative decisions, and the opinion of scholars.”
It derives from the general practice of MAJORITY of states. But of course the minority could not impose their custom and practice to the majority. Of the 193 UN members only 65 has either signified or acceded to the 1961 UN Convention which treaty is the ONLY one that specifically deals on foundlings.
Speaking of ‘practice,’
What have been good practices seen in ASEAN countries since 2010?
One of which is creating safeguards against statelessness by accomplishing domestic legal reforms.
ASEAN Member States: ten (10)
Those who made legal reforms…
Baby Rojing comes to mind…
Page 17 of the thesis cited above contains a table of the international agreements relevant to ASEAN Member States. Philippines is the only one that ratified the 1954 U.N. Convention on Statelessness (and started to accede to the 1961 Convention only in 2011). Other member states are not Parties to both conventions.
And yet, six of the ASEAN Member excluding the Philippines provided domestic legislation for foundlings.
Maybe our constitution could be amended to apply the doctrine of jus soli for foundlings found in the Philippines using the ASEAN practice as justification.
But this would lead to a situation where the child of overstaying Chinese couple would be abandoned at the font of Quiapo church to be retrieved soon by a certain Eddie Mi Li Tang, a naturalized Filipino sibling of one of the couple. The foundling named Graciano would be adopted by Eddie and would become a natural-born Filipino citizen. Graciano could win as congressman of Quiapo district of Manila later on.
By a sudden twist of imagination…
Mr. Egay “Red” Sun Da Lo’s ward, Marciano, foundling of the same age as Graciano, became commander-in-chief and dictator in no time.
He decreed the existence of the “9-gazillion-dashed line” annexing the whole Philippines to his adoptive country.
…There goes @leona’s loyalty…
On loyalty: http://raissarobles.com/2015/06/12/senator-grace-poe-thanks-me-for-baring-us-govt-records-that-she-dropped-her-us-citizenship-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-307541
Ariel Anthony A Tizon says
Your points of contention are well taken. And I do appreciate you obviously have read my commentary on this subject..
As to your proposition on the reading together of Articles 1 and 2 of the 1961 Convention ( based on the premise, as in my article), that the concepts therein are already accepted part of international customs and principle.
Actually, it is not only the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness that deals with nationality of foundling contrary to your averment. I even mention it in my commentary. Thus for reference:
Convention on Certain Questions Relating to the Conflict of Nationality Law (Entry into force: 1 July 1937)
Article 14 .A child whose parents are both unknown shall have the nationality of the country of birth. If the child’s parentage is established, its nationality shall be determined by the rules applicable in cases where the parentage is known.
A foundling is, until the contrary is proved, presumed to have been born on the territory of the State in which it was found.
I omitted the application of this provision simply because there had been no issue that Senator Grace Poe was not born in the Jaro, Iloilo, Philippines where she was found or anywhere else but in the Philippines.
Although, however remote the possibility that she may had been born outside the Philippines and was purposely brought into the country just to be left there should be entertained for completeness of the argument. But in the balance of probabilities, you would honestly agree with me that she was most if not 100& born in the Philippines.
Here lies another problem.
Both Article 2 of the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness and Article 14 of Convention on Certain Questions Relating to the Conflict of Nationality Law do not specifically provide WHEN or HOW the nationality of the foundling be reckoned with. Is it from birth, age of majority, or upon application by the proper person?
The answer to this question is the linchpin of the claim Grace Poe is a natural-born citizen of the Philippines, a legal stand I completely support.
Why? Because if sustained by the Supreme Court should a case be filed on this issue, she would be a Filipino from birth AND since she had not done anything to acquire or perfect her Filipino citizenship ( having acquired it from birth under Article 1 of the 1961 Convention that is mandatory because of the use of the word SHALL) she is a natural-born Filipino as defined under the 1973 or 1987 Constitutions.
For purposes of completess, Article 2 and Article 12 (3) of the 1961 Convention are hereunder reproduced, to wit:
A foundling found in the territory of a Contracting State shall, in the absence of proof to the contrary, be considered to have been born within that territory of parents possessing the nationality of that State.
Article 12 (3)
The provisions of Article 2 of this Convention shall apply only to foundlings found in the territory of a Contracting State after the entry into force of the Convention for that State.”
An analytical reading of the aforementioned articles would prove my point exactly.
More telling is the fact that her biological parents are unknown. Do we based our presumption from another presumption? Could we really with certainty know her biological parents are filipino citizens?
On your Vietnamese example. Being born and found are different, I believe. A child born in a ship or boat is granted the nationality of the flag of the boat ( state of registry of the boat ) if the parents are unknown. I f the baby is a foundling found on Phil shores the baby is considered a Phil citizen I submit
In fact, the article by Irene R. Cortez & Rapael Perpetuo M. Lotilla titled, ” Nationality and International Law from the Philippine Perspective” , published in Philippine Law Journal, cited the Secretary of Justice (Opinion of the Secretary of Justice No. 277 Series of 1940) opinion of considering a foundling whose parents were unknown as a national of the Philippines even if the foundling’s features appeared to be of foreign parentage.
Note: this is not a primary source as I havent had the chance to read the opinion in the original.
I know this is not an SC decision but is persuasive and reflective on the conduct of the Philippines in the observance of treaties/conventions of which it is not a party or has not acceded to.
As to your narrative about international customs, I absolutely agree with you. But it does not mean a state cannot avail of the provisions of international conventions or treaties it is not party to on its own discretion. The formal acceptance of a State to treaties/conventions signify its consent to apply the law in case of conflict between states to bind themselves with clear and unequivocal intent ( although a State can make reservations and exceptions) and as a defined measure of its commitment to the avowed higher purpose of harmony and peace between States.
After all, there is such a concept of a State’s unilateral observance and compliance of the terms of a treaty/ convention by consistent domestic practice.
Got to get back to what I was previously doing. Kind regards.
That’s what six (6) ASEAN Member States, excluding the Philippines, did. (See #42.1.2)
Since foundlings are natural-born Philippine citizens then their foundling certificates must have an effect like a certificate of live birth wherein passport application for foundlings would no longer require the Philippine passport of the founder.
As pointed out by @Rene, Philippines is adherent to jus sanguinis principle since 1947…
Ariel Anthony Tizon says
@ baycas @ rene-ipil @raissa
Yes, both of you are absolutely right in respect to the non application of the jus soli principle. However, one of the rules in applying a prior court decision to a pending controversy requires the similarity of facts involved.
Here lies the distinction. Senator Grace Poe is a foundling, unlike the Tan Chong case.
I submit the decision you relied upon has only persuasive effect in the case of SGP because of this glaring fact she is a foundling.
A foundling’s nationality under Philippine law is a very interesting topic, a novelty, if I may say.
As far as I am aware, there is no Supreme Court ruling on this matter that is why we are here discussing this. Personally, I am very fascinated by this ongoing controversy that I always find time to reply to comments addressed to me, and hopefully, we all can learn from each other.
To further our discussion ( I dont really treat this as a debate of sorts). Apparently, there is a Sec of Justice Opinion (series of 1940 ) where the good secretary considered a foundling found in the Philippines as having Philippine nationality EVEN IF THE FEATURES OF THE CHILD POINT OUT TO A FOREIGN PARENTAGE. Take note this is AFTER the 1935 Constitution. SGP ws born in 1968 so the 1935 is the suggested point of consideration.
In his article about SGP’s citizenship Former Chief Justice Panganiban said and I quote,
“However, the framers of the 1935 Constitution explained that expressly providing citizenship rules for foundlings was unnecessary since that could be determined from international law. Note that under the same Charter (and also under the present one), “the Philippines … adopts the generally accepted principles of international law as part of the law of the Nation.”
Read more: http://opinion.inquirer.net/85819/grace-poes-citizenship#ixzz3daoV2RhX
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On this premise, the intent of the framers of the constitution was to rely on international law in ascertaining the nationality of a foundling found in the Philippines.
As far as I am aware, there is no SC decision annulling or discrediting that opinion of the Sec of J rendered in 1940. I have not read the opinion in the original transcript so I am presenting a supposition the 1930 Hague Convention Concerning the Conflict of Nationality laws Article 14 was applied to that foundling although the Philippines was not a party to any convention on statelessness at the time the opinion was delivered.
” Article 14
A child whose parents are both unknown shall have the nationality of the country of birth. If the child’s parentage is established, its nationality shall be determined by the rules applicable in cases where the parentage is known. A foundling is, until the contrary is proved, presumed to have been born on the territory of the State in which it was found. ”
True, the Philippines has never been a party to the Hague Convention but still unilaterally inforced the law if indeed it was the law applied. Anyway, the right to nationality of any person is a universal right and had attained the status of an international custom enforceable in the Phil jurisdiction under the 1935, 1973, and 1987 Constitutions without need of any SPECIFIC enabling or procedural law.
BUT THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM REMAINS- At what instant in a person’s life (ie., a foundling) shall the nationality of the person be granted? At birth? At age of majority? Upon application by the proper person?
1. If granted at birth even without enabling law, then SGP is a natural-born citizen because of the definition in the Constitution as she did not do anything to acquire or perfect her citizenship.
2. If not granted at birth, then what law will apply to determine when the nationality is conferred to the foundling? It can be reasonably argued that SGP is not a natural-born citizen.
To reconcile International Laws and the Constitution, we could say that the attribution of nationality to a foundling under the doctrine of jus soli is an exception ( or a supplement, or a complimentary to that enumerated in the Constitution. Otherwise, a foundling in Philippine jurisdiction would be “stateless”. This situation is repugnant to basic human rights and international law.
The 1935 Constitution is retroactive as it looks at the past and is also forward-looking as it dictates Philippine nationals who will be affected by the same legal instrument:
Sec. 1(1). Carry over of existing Philippine nationals
Sec. 1(2). Natural-born Filipino, foreign parents, conditional in nature, nationality by place of birth: the only exception to nationality by descent (jus soli)
Sec. 1(3). Natural-born Filipino, nationality by descent (jus sanguinis)
Sec. 1(4). Natural-born Filipino, nationality by descent, by choice upon age of majority (jus sanguinis)
Sec. 1(5). Naturalized Filipino
Section 1(2), as applied, made ConCom delegate Caram an exception to the jus sanguinis rule. He was deemed natural-born Filipino despite having foreign parents. The framers specifically etched this fact.
A foundling’s fate in terms of citizenship, due to “rarity” of foundling occurrence, was left to chance and was not clearly defined or identified in the same legal instrument (The 1935 Constitution) as one of the exceptions to the jus sanguinis rule.
Please read also the entire mini-thread here starting from Comment No. 73.5:
Here’s the working link:
Ariel Anthony Tizon says
Point well taken.
Even in the 1890s, Mr. George D. Collins believed in the jus sanguinis principle (casetext.com/case/united-states-v-wong-kim-ark?page=676).
He also believed that foundlings are exceptions to this “nationality by descent” principle…
However, his assertions were inapplicable to the jus soli principle being applied as birth right in determining nationality in the U.S. of A.
SC’s Decision on Poe’s Citizenship
SC will be forced to render a decision and I consider this a political one since this case has a great repercussion on the disqualification of a possible popular Presidential Candidate, Grace Poe.
1. Based on our constitutions, from 1935, 1973 and 1987, there is no definite clause that says a foundling is a natural born citizen, and the court will rule based on the ambiguity of them and find Grace Poe not a natural-born citizen. In our opinion, Grace Poe is a naturalized citizen and not stateless. The SC can only interpret to a certain extent and in this case we suggest that the lawmakers deal with the question of foundlings by making a law explicitly defines their citizenship and their rights and with the intention of protecting the individual as well as the state rights.
2. Based on our constitutions, from 1935, 1973 and 1987, there is no definite clause that says a foundling is a natural born citizen, and the court will rule base on the ambiguity of them and find Grace Poe a natural-born citizen for the logical and compassionate reasons. As we noted that Grace Poe is indeed born here and most likely we like to err in the side of humanity that indeed one of her parents is a Filipino Citizen thus she is a natural-born. Also adopting the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child according to Jus Soli and based on the citizenship of the adopting parents deemed foundlings as natural born.
Others can add some creative jurisprudence and let see how it might go.
Will our own Supreme Court adapt to being striict constructionists to a particular legal philosophy of judicial interpretation that limits or restricts judicial interpretation? (like in the United States)
– which requires a judge to apply the text only as it is written? That ocnce the court has a clear meaning of the text, no further investigation is required? No inferences drawn.
Wikipedia gives this story has “Davy Crockett delivering a speech called “Not Yours To Give”, in which he urged the United States Congress to reject an appropriation for a Naval widow on the grounds that Congress had no Constitutional authority to give charity.”
Or to lead one to logically deduce absurdities, the Doctrine of Absurdities – that commonsense interpretations should be used in such cases, rather than literal reading of a law or of original intent?
Will our courts and the High Court interpret The Constitution contrary to their plain meaning in order to avoid absurd legal conclusions?
Can the Filipino people expect this – “The common sense of man approves the judgment mentioned by Pufendorf [sic. Puffendorf], that the Bolognian law which enacted ‘that whoever drew blood in the streets should be punished with the utmost severity’, did not extend to the surgeon who opened the vein of a person that fell down in the street in a fit?
And – “The same common sense accepts the ruling, cited by Plowden, that the statute of 1st Edward II, which enacts that a prisoner who breaks prison shall be guilty of a felony, does not extend to a prisoner who breaks out when the prison is on fire – ‘for he is not to be hanged because he would not stay to be burnt’?”
A time for common sense in legal philosophy.
Link to the source quoted –
I would have to rescind my offer of VP position, you are an SC material!
You enrich this site with your legal contributions and I look forward for many more to come!
Will always try to be Eveready battery for that!
Thanks for you kind conscience too.
SUCH A PAUSE THAT REFRESHES, LEONINE;
Pardon my taking liberties with your name, oh WISE ONE
Joe America says
Davy Crockett is an American Legend. He killed his first bear when he was three years old. Raccoon skin hat. Died in the Alamo defending American sovereignty. I wonder if Senator Santiago would take up arms on Pagasa. Fess Parker was the actor who played Davy Crockett on the television series. He was on our Board of Directors, tall, decent fellow. He went off to build a winery in Santa Maria, helping to establish that region as a major wine district second to the Napa Valley. It’s close to LA, and makes for a fun wine-tasting trip.
There is no substitute for A Fun Wine-tasting event! I always forget what ‘a party’ was about!
KickaPoo in wine!
i have mentioned much much earlier that GP, imo, is a natural born filipino.
yes, common sense.
most of our actions/deeds/decisions are anchored in “CS”.
though CS is always trumped or abused by our very own legal thinlkers to favor money.
money it is that raped our system.
intensified by greed.
If that common sense will prove to be common after all then candidate Poe will not be judged according to her being natural-born Filipino or not.
For the opponents of candidate Poe will only complain about her residency and American citizenship.*
But there goes certainty…for I hope that the SC will finally place ALL foundlings–past, present, future–in the Philippines their natural-born status as Philippine nationals. The legal presumption will always be presumed until the day the issue is brought to court.
Yes, many questionable decisions comes out senses in conflicts = SC!
How right you are on that.
jorge bernas says
Sana makapag desisyon na ang Supreme Court para matapos na ang usaping ito…kapag pinatagal ibig sabihin ay naghihintay pa nang Kasunduan, je je jeje…
What if a foundling has all the physical features of, say, a pure Caucasian, or Chinese? Natural-born Filipino citizen pa rin?
This is an excerpt from my previous comment (#220.127.116.11)…
So, the Hague Convention spelled out that the “right of the soil” should be enforced for special cases of unknown parentage. [INTERNATIONAL]
I guess it’s no wonder that in 1940, the Secretary of Justice back then had the opinion of conforming to the international directive regardless of ‘conflict’:
Supreme Court review is inevitable…if ever this issue will reach the Supreme Court.
I never expected anything out of the Aquino Administration. I like the Arroyo Admin’s handling of the economy and I really thought someone of his caliber would be like another Estrada. Out of all the candidates I wanted Gibo to win as President and Binay as VP. I like their tv ads. It was very convincing, especially the one where it said ‘ganito kami sa makati sana sa buong pilipinas din’.
As a student it was hard to take that Aquino would win because his popular mother died. After all the son cannot be like the mother. But all in all I like how he brought positivity in our country. The Philippines is spotlighted as the 2nd fastest economy in asia, the tourism business is booming, all time record of FDI inflows(let’s not compare it to the neighbours, we’ve been a laggard for a long time & there is no magic to jumpstart FDI), improving manufacturing sector & a booming stock market.
I also like the fact that he tried to improve our military, PAG-ASA, the tax collection, the airports (still work in progress: dipolog, cebu, manila), the drainage system & failing but still trying to improve customs.
He made very good appointments. Morales, De Lima, Henares, Luistro, Jimenez, Singson, Cesar V. Purisima, Tetangco, Abad. I like them because aside from doing their jobs they don’t put their faces in tv ads. It’s quite refreshing to not see a tourism secretary’s face in every advertisement.
In his campaign, the promises I remembered him saying in rallies is that he is amicable with the RH Law, he does not like the 10 year education system, FOI, no new tax but he would raise the tax revenue by improved collection & jail the big fishes. RH law is passed but I don’t know about the implementation, K-12, NO FOI, only sin tax and a record increase of tax revenue, & big fishes jailed or detained: ex president, senators, congressman, governor, mayor, & top officials of pnp. Kicked out & harassed by the BIR: ex-cj Corona.
There is a lot of things I dislike about the Aquino administration but I like to focus on the good things than the bad.
There is a lot of things I dislike about the Aquino administration but I like to focus on the good things than the bad.
This is true in other blogsite who are propagandists of Aquino but here in CPM, we are brutally honest and we discuss the goods and the bads and leave our readers well-informed and have better bearings when they decide to support or reject the offerings of our charlatan politicians.
Out of all the presidentiable candidates whose names are seen in surveys and get lots of air time I find Grace Poe more winnable.
I find others winnable too but unfortunately the new politics we are espousing here in CPM is not winnability alone but a fair scrutiny o their credentials, their integrity, and the risk and rewards they might bring to the Filipino People. If we concede that winnability is the main criteria, I think we are doomed for Pacquiao will be our soon to be President.
pacman might aim for that.
the man is a believer of his fans and friends.
he will go for it when there is a clamor.
he possesses that basic belief that anyone can do anything if he believes in himself.
and the more it intensified when he started to become a preacher.
imo, he might think he can do a david someday, who knows?
Joe America says
Fortunately, Claire, some here at CPM agree with you, that President Aquino has elevated the Philippines both domestically and internationally. We are able to sort out the good and the bad, see the bigger picture, and judge that it is important to continue this kind of leadership. Being supportive of the President is not a character flaw or wrong-headed even if others are not able to get there.
I’m one of the bloggers to whom Parekoy refers, and my support of the Aquino leadership is not built on some blind following of the yellow crowd, but on the same kind of measurement you have done that sees the good and the bad and the overall progress of the Philippines during Mr. Aquino’s term. I resist the idea that this is reason to be labeled unkindly. Parekoy speaks for himself, not the entire CPM community. It is an outstanding community, with many varied voices, great intelligence, and deep involvement in Philippine affairs.
Vhin AB says
I, for one, always see the good things and positive impact of our leaders especially the president. I supported every president as much as I can because I believe that their office is sacred. I understand that it is very difficult to balance all kinds of major issues and personalities.
But I can also see and weigh the mistakes and wrong decisions of the president. I get upset, too but I don’t want to withdraw my support for every mistake that he/she commits because as I’ve said before that it’s difficult to govern over 100 million people.
In the case of GMA, her long list of cases of graft and corruption almost made me deny that I’m a Filipino. Too much for me to handle. How about Erap? God save the Philippines!
With PNoy, yes he makes mistakes but my biggest consolation is that I know PNoy will not steal even a single cent. That for me is enough to continue supporting him, not blindly though.
Joe America says
The term “blindly following” is rather like the term “indolent Filipino” or the Philippines as a “failed state”, they are easy, disparaging labels attached by those too manipulative, uninformed or lazy to present the complex facts. Well, James Fallows at least, in his article, said what he meant by failed state. But here the terms “yellow” or “blind follower” are meant to disparage people for personal reasons unrelated to the issue.
The issue is, if we seek a strong Philippines, and recognize we have a capable President, why would we weaken him by disparaging him or those who back him? It weakens the Philippines. This does not mean we have to let the President off when he makes what we consider a mistake. It means that we put it in context of his overall uplift of the nation, which is profound.
To be factual, I do not follow the President blindly. I support him, and criticize him from time to time. Below is a record of my blogs about the President. Any reader interested in the truth of JoeAm and other “blind yellow” followers might take it upon themselves to read about JoeAm’s views on term limits for Aquino or his loyalty weakness or his ups and down. My blog can be searched for the term “President Aquino” or “Noynoy Aquino”, or Google the specific articles. You can also do a search on Poe, or Duterte, or Roxas, or Lacson, or Cayetano, or Trillanes, or Nationalista Party (Villar) to see that I do a whole lot of writing to try to discover an enlightened path through the Philippine political forests.
Trust me, when Parekoy does his sly disparaging remarks, he is mainly just dealing with personal issues. The facts are out there. My support of President Aquino is always couched in terms of support for the Philippines, and is not some gaga simplified cheering of a star. I suspect that is true of most “blind yellow” followers.
• WHY PRESIDENT AQUINO IS RIGHT TO PUSH BACK AGAINST THE SUPREME COURT (2014)
• HOW PRESIDENT AQUINO CAN ASSURE A WIN FOR HIS PICK IN 2016 (2014)
• ‘DEAR MR. PRESIDENT, ABOUT THOSE TERM LIMITS . . .” (2014)
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you made my life easier.
as if you directly read my mind.
It’s really more fun in the philippines election time. Before I find political advertisement annoying but now I accept it as one of the ways that can raise our economy, give people temporary jobs & raise tv profits. Out of all the presidentiable candidates whose names are seen in surveys and get lots of air time I find Grace Poe more winnable. Mar Roxas will take a lot of convincing. Duterte seems like he is all talk and I really hate the fact he perpetuates family dynasty in Davao. Binay is a losing force.
Vhin AB says
Family dynasty is a permanent fixture in Philippine politics. In the U.S., you can even find sitting senators for 40 years straight although they are elected based on their accomplishments and voting record about critical issues facing the nation.
I hope that their political ads should concentrate more on their mahor accomplishments and not just showing a smiling face, kissing some babies and/or eating with poor people. It should be about their stand on major issues that our country is facing now and in the future.
Asa ka pa…
He he he indeed!
With Justices Velasco Jr., Peralta, Brion and Jardeleza inhibiting themselves, that leaves 11 to decide. With Junjun Binay’s DENIED petition to inhibit the 3 — Chief Justice Sereno, Justices Carpio and Villarama — that effectively leaves the following 8 Justices to decide, ALONG with the 3:
1. Teresita De Castro
2. Lucas Bersamin
3. Mariano del Castillo
4. Jose Perez
5. Jose Mendoza
6. Bienvenido Reyes
7. Estela Perlas Bernabe
8. Victor Leonen
If only 3 out of the 8 decide against Binay added to the 3 (CJ Sereno, Justice Carpio, Justice Villarama), we have the decision against Binay — 6 to 5.
No wonder Junjun Binay and consequently the Binays are shaking in their shoes.
@baycas, Is my arithmetic OK?
ga-ilusyon na sila baycas….
1. Gutierrez forced to resign.
2. Corona impeached but no closure on his ill-gotten wealth.
3. Gloria jailed but ends up in hospital arrest and now is poised to allowed a better condition in house arrest. She is guilty of cheating FPJ in the elections with the help of Garci. She is also facing plunder charges that is worse than murder for plunder kills thousands and even punishes the unborn for the effects of plunder is like a radioactive bomb that lingers even after the detonation and fallout.
4. Enrile, Jinggoy, Bong, and Napoles accidentally nabbed because of Luy’s whistleblowing and the big fishes of the opposition are convenient sacrifice at the altar of selective Tuwid na Daan. This is halfway victory, for the rest of the administration allies are not subjected to the same urgency of indicting them and those who are charged are with weak cases and could easily be whitewashed or weakened to be acquitted.
5. BBL almost made it but fate is testing Aquino’s persistence if indeed he wanted a worthwhile long lasting solution to Mindanao or just for the sake of being considered as a candidate for Nobel Prize and by appeasing the Malaysians, Americans, and the MiLF endangered the stability of our fragile nation. More than half of our countrymen are opposed to passing the BBL, and a law without the support of the people is self-defeating for it creates more instability and arouse divisiveness, which ironically to end the as the aim of BBL. Better, let the next President handles this hot potato and consider offering it in the plebiscite to ask the permission of the Filipino People.
What the Filipino people support that Aquino should accomplish:
1. Pass his campaign promise FOI bill into law. This is a landmark law and a gateway to real lasting reforms for transparency will minimize blatan corruption and a barrier to those who would like to make a fast buck at the expense of our treasury.
2. Pass Anti-dynasty Bill into law. It is almost thiry years since the 1987 constitution paved the way for our lawmakers to eradicate dynasties for the framers then knew the destabilizing and retrogressing effects of medieval way of governance through mini-fiefdoms and virtual dictatorships, but even wity initial pronouncements of support of Anti-Dynasty Law reality sets in that Aquino flounders on this cancer cure for it does not discriminate against bad and good dynasties, and obviously his Aquino Clan as well as the Cojuangcos are the first ones affected and eventually loosen their grip in thier fiefdoms!
3. Make Marcoses pay for their past sins of human rights abuse and plundering our nation. And adding insult to injury they are back and found their lost power courtesy of Former President Ramos and the passive Erap, Gloria and surprisingly the inaction on the part of Aquino. Aquino chose to prioritize the PDAF thieves rather than to recover Marcos loot and prosecution of his family. He could do both though but he chose to ignore the Marcoses crimes!
I am not diminishing Aquino’s accomplishments but passing FPI and Anti-Dynasty Laws will be the defining moment of his presidency for it will paved way to a better and real Tuwid na Daan! if he sieze this moment and prioritized these bills to become laws then Filipinos are more grateful and he will live forever in our hearts for he is the President who made it happen for better Philippines!
I also posit that FOI and Anti-Dynasty laws will make BBL inutile for those two will eradicate the grip of the warlirds in Mindanao and FOI will serve its constituents to have a transparent accouting of their allocated budgets and minimize corruption, and pave the way to delivery of per specifications infrastructures, inventory of recipients of government social services, effective medicines, and economic programs have a high chance of success in benefitting the communities. When the government is seen working for the people, insurgency declines and opportunistic leaders of rebels are challenged to propose a better alternative from fighting the government who is seen doing its job by the people it is sworn to serve. Injustices are prevened and minimized and takes away the recruitment reasons for joining the insurgency.
These twin powerful laws are the prescriptions to the cancer which our country has been suffering for almost half a century!
Vhin AB says
Add this @Parekoy: Build a Martial Law Museum and put the list of murdered, imprisoned and missing people during our very own Dark Age.
Ala -Holocaust Museum!
The Cambodians have their kiling fields and the enormous numbers of skulls serves as a reminder of never again!
If we have the Martial Law Museum, I doubt the Marcoses has the courage to come back and ran for public seats. Cory missed her opportunity; Ramos never entertained the idea for he was one of the Berdugosof Martial Law; Erap a Marcos Loyalist is happy to welcome back the entire clan of the dictator; Gloria did not even consider it and her entire family would like to topple Maarcos record in plundering our nation and she succeeded for not even a cent is recovered; Aquino disappointed his parents for the opportunity of a powerful president to review and revive tompursue justice and recovery of more loots was ineptly ignored!
So yes, we better ask our Presidentiables about this important symbols of past oppressions in the dar ages of Martial Law!
Vhin AB says
If u visit the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC, they’ll give you a small card with a name, picture and some info of the person who was a victim of Nazi.
We can definitely do that. That has nothing to do with politics anymore because it’s a dark period of our history as a nation that we don’t wanna go through again.
I brought my family there and showed my kids the limitless brutality and evil of men towards their perceive subordinates. It was moving and a life lesson for my kids. We also went to Martin Luther King, Jr Memorial at DC.
We toured the Capitol Building, went to the White House, then off to the Mall, and walked leisurely towards Lincoln Memorial. The following day we went to visit JFK’s tomb at Arlington Cemetery.
in poland as well. they even have memorial posts in every historical place.
philippines will have the same if these presidentiables will start constructing such museums instead of wasting the peoples’ money by vote buying. why i said peoples’ money? the binays -no need to go further, if and only if the queso de bola will run- imho ongpin will be his biggest contributor. ongpin is in hot seat because of boy scout issue, among other
Pressing for the passage of FOI & anti-dynasty bills are like asking the moon to leave the evening sky. Only legislators with unstable minds will fight for their approval and allow the swords of Damocles to hang over their dirty heads. Nevertheless, nothing is wrong with dreaming.
PNoy lost the last chance to put behind bars the mastermind behind the grizzly murder in the tarmac which the people expected him to do – and shows his weakness and indecisiveness to confront the architect of his father’s murder.
Baka makapasa kasi
unstable daw si PNoy diba?
Calling Pedrosa ,nasan na yung psych report?
O ayan may pag-asa na ano Kalahari?
I brought my family there and showed my kids the limitless brutality and evil of men towards their perceived subordinates. It was moving and a life lesson for my kids. We also went to Martin Luther King, Jr Memorial at DC.
We toured the Capitol Building, went to the White House, then off to the Mall, and walked leisurely towards Lincoln Memorial. The following day we went to visit JFK’s tomb at Arlington Cemetery.
DC is one of the best places to visit and appreciates America’s story of democracy.
I’m sure you took them to Smithsonians as well. What I missed was that site in the National Mall where Forrest Gump and Jenny embraced amid the applause of the hippies. he he he.
Yup we have been to Smithsonian and the Art Galleries. Their collections are superb and must be absorbed and enjoyed for the experience is priceless.
Which reminds me that to go into those establishments, they are all free which whenever I went to MET and Museum of Natural History at NYC, it was expensive!
Been to Atlanta too and went to Dr. King’s place as well as the customary visit at CNN and Coca Cola.
Forrest Gump’s and Jenny’s place I like, then in SFrancisco at the Marina, Bubba Gump was a nice place to eat and reminisce Gump’s Bubba!
I do not necessarily agree with you with your take on the Marcoses and Martial Law but I agree with you on the Museum. I wonder why Cory did not have one built. Is there no such a plan with PNoy? As long as data gathering is objective and stripped of politics, it should benefit future historians and everybody trying to review history.
There are supposedly at most 75,000 victims. Let us have their names and circumstances one by one, the crime committed on them detailed. Is there an apprehension they could not identify as many? Rene Saguisag loves to point to the 10,000 so-called human rights violations victims who won their case in Hawaii against the Marcos estate. That one at least is easy. Go to SELDA. They have the list of individual names though SELDA itself might not allow each individual cases reviewed. The Commission responsible for processing reparation claims supposedly has received about 25,000 claimants. All these should be documented and placed in that Museum.
There were also thousands of declassified documents relating to Martial Law that were turned over by the military to the Commission of Human Rights c/o Etta Rosales. Why to Etta Rosales and not to a library, i do not know. But these could form part of the Museum.
Love this idea!
yes to a museum, and if possible, one that includes blown-up photos with their names of Phl great plunderers!
i happened to see one school that exhibits the greatest fraudsters of the world topped by b. madoff.
it will be such a good reminder to each pinoys esp. to our bootantes…
It is Vhin AB we need to thank for he brought this great idea, which is long overdue!
I’m all for the Martial Law museum. Excellent idea! Once the PDAF rulings are out (with guilt verdict of course), it should also have a wing for it, complete with the anatomy of how the plunder was perpetrated.
Let the campaign begin. i am willing to donate.
The fund for the Martial Law and Human Rights Museum should be taken from the recovered ill-gotten wealth of the Marcoses.
Philippine History books should have a great length of discussions on this episode of our history and provide our students a balanced take on the issues and its aftermath about :
5. Overpopulation and RH Law
6. Oligarchy and its grip on our economy and wide gap of distribution of wealth
8. People Power
9. Poitical Dynasty and Patronage Politics
10. Catholic Church Influence
11. INC, El-Shaddai, Jesus is Lord and other ifluential for sale endorsements
12. Internet and Social Media influence in shaping the minds of the Filipinos
13. The detrimental effects of Artistas and Popular Celebrities in running for office
14. Print, TV and Radio Media in their unprofessionalism and lackasaidal efforts of digging for truth is hindering the nations political maturity and wrong priority of focus instead of subjects worth promoting financial education and entrepreneurship.
15. Sabah, our land grabbed from us…How our colonizers shaped our world.
16. Contested reefs in the West Philippine Seas and China Bullying in historical perspective.
17. How to deal with our American Big Brother and a delicate dance with China to maximize our benefits derived from our relationships with them
Vhin AB says
Exactly @Parekoy. I just hope that the Martial Law Museum will happen during our time.
Vhin AB says
Maybe as the name implies ‘Martial Law Museum’, will concentrate in the period from the declaration up to the time that it wad lifted para walang speculations or accusations.
Kung sino man ang mga nakulong, pinatay at mga nawawala dahil sa Martial Law ay dapat maipakita dito. Kabilang syempre ang mga ilang pangyayari that led to it’s declaration and the after it was lifted that is based on record and not just insinuations para hondi mahaluan ng politika.
Correct dapat factual.
But I mentioned the History Book that needs to be revised since there was only a small portion where Martial Law is discussed in the textbooks. This does not help our new generation for they are unaware of our nightmare experience in those dark age of Martial Law.
The proof of this apathy and ignorance is staring us annoyingly: Bobong Marcos is a Senator and now is close to clinching the Presidency or VP, Imee is governor, and Imelda is a Congresswoman! Then the Marcos relatives and the Romualdezes are all over and Political Dynasty be damned!
If the Jews did have the Nazi Hunters why can’t we have our own Marcos and Human Rights Criminal Hunters or I say Vigilantes?
Vhin AB says
I agree about the revisions and corrections of history books. The Dep. Ed. should teach our children about the horrors of the and horrible period in a corect way with photos and videos as well.
A big step in educationg our people is by building a Martial Law museum that will become a legacy of PNoy. Just to make sure that no Filipino shall opress and kill a fellow Filipino…NEVER AGAIN.
ah yes, kudos to vhinAB.
excitement impairs vision. hehehe!
I forgot one his great legacy, the passing of RH Law!
I supported it and so as majority of Filiponos and this castrates the Catholic Church in meddling with our women’s reproductive choice. The effect o this will be seen within the first decade where the population explosion will be a dud. After a generation the economkc and peace and order rewards will be fully felt.
Kudos to Aquino on this, and I thank Claire for reminding us of this great law!
Vhin AB says
To continue PNoy’s legacy about women’s rights. He must also push Divorce Law although I guess there’s not much time.
My wish for the next president is to modernize our military. (NO MORE ‘BULOK’ military hardwares.) To have a credible Air Force, a couple of submarines, a state-of-the-art destroyers and fast patrol boats to guard our shores and country’s integrity. During peace time, it can be used against plunderers.
Divorce Law is in the offing but not a priority. The next President will make it as a bargainig chip if the Catholic Church decided to destabilize his/her admin.
Modernizing the Military is dependent on the FOI Bill for the bidding requirments and specs are well publicized and the moneymakers in the AFP will earn their commissions through creative legal loopoles which is not as delibitating as the current blatant abused of rigging the contracts.
Vhin AB says
Divorce Law should now be a priority. Option yan na panahon na para maging batas. But FOI should remain the top priority of PNoy and will be his legacy.
Who is the worthy Filipino who wants to be the next President who is willing to adapt, use and make it true this Legacy Message?
The Message is all about some simple issues: Corruption. Justice. Public Trust and Honesty. Anti-Dynasty. Freedom of Information. Peace and Order. Poverty. Jobs.
Reading The Message is loud and clear for each one – A true and proud Filipino.
It is some litany of what bad was done in the past. Decades of badness. Evil. A history of government personalities who did things and who failed to do the right things for the country.
Exaggerated and too much unnecessary reconciliation. Sacrficing the goodness that could have been done for the people. Lackadaisical in government leadership and in the Rule of Law.
Let us hope a worthy President will present a clear Message of what are the programs of the next government come May 2016. Shall we continue to be fooled? To be cheated?
To be misinformed? To be led astray? To support and follow the corrupts here and now and for the next Administrations to come? To be passive? To be indifferent? To be of no care?
Thanking Parekoy for what I call this – A Message for presidential and vice presidentiable potentials.
Welcome! You’ll be a great VP someday!
PHILSTAR — UNA: Abad has P581 B for LP campaign fund (June 16, 2015 – 12:00am)
MANILA, Philippines – Budget Secretary Florencio Abad has concealed some P581 billion in the proposed national budget for next year intended for the ruling Liberal Party’s campaign for the 2016 elections, United Nationalist Alliance (UNA) interim president and Navotas City Rep. Tobias Tiangco said yesterday.
– Ingit lang si Binay — even with the unfrozen amounts in his banks, and those of his family and dummies Limlingan, Baloloy and Tiu — hindi aabot ang kanilang pondo kumpara sa pinag-wawagwagan nilang pondo sa kabila;
– free advertisement for those in Binay camp to jump ship — it is greener and there are more goodies on the other side. Hahaha.
– Is this another case of Tiangco putting his shoe in his mouth?
Joe America says
Well, maybe VP Binay can hold hearings and see who shows up. Otherwise, without facts, we can only return to Tiangco his own words. Political attack with no merit whatsoever.
Usually these kinds of claims take legitimate expenses and label them pernicious. I’ll calmly await the details.
If and when Tiangco now prefers to be quiet he must have sewed up his lips with the shoe laces of his shoes!
he he :-)
TIBAY, Gyud ☺
Kaya meron akong ginagawang research tungkol kay Abad para matuwa naman si victinluz.
Vhin AB says
Sige @Yvonne para di ka napapagbintangan hahahaha
@yvonne, naisip mong check upin ang Birth Certificate (NSO) ni VP JJ Binay?
sabi niya eh adopted din daw siya, anyone verified if his biological parents were registered in his Birth Certificate (BC)? O iyong adopted parent(s (halimbawa, Tiyo)?
“E kasi ako, inampon din lang ako ng tiyo ko. Mabuti pa nga si Mareng Grace, gumanda ang buhay n’ya [sa pagkakaampon n’ya]. ‘Yong pagkakaampon sa’kin e ako ang namamalengke, kumukuha ng kaning baboy. [Kaya] hindi si Jojo Binay ang nangdudusta sa mga nang-aapi” – Vice President Jejomar Binay.
Binay was speaking figuratively. Di na kayo nasanay kay Binay. Kung ano ang “in” at the time duon din siya.
Nang panay ang papuri kay Lew Kew Khew ng Singapore, sumingit si Binay at siya raw ang “Lew Kew Khew” ng Makati.
Nang maging “hot” yung usapan sa pagkaampon ni Grace, ampon din daw siya.
Nang maging mainit yung usapan laban sa corruption, lalabanan nya rin daw ang corruption pag naging presidente siya.
Siguro pagmeron magsabi na ang dapat maging presidente ay yung matangkad at maputi, marahil ay sasabihin din ni Binay na matangkad at maputi siya. LOL!
at “kamukha” rin niya ang pope.
basta may credit na maaambos, pop-up agad.
may pop-up item na sikat sa baguio.
pwede kayang siya ang gawing icon?
I think AMLC didn’t find all of Binay’s dummies. Lots of funds still sleeping. May dummies get greedy and abrogate all contracts with Binay.
Do you remember PDAF scandal? What about the DAP one which will really nail the president for its unconstitutionality? Aquino’s popularity was diminished but after a month forgotten.
Do you remember Mamasapano? It is another testament of Aquino’s ineptness in leadership.
Do you remember when a lot of pundits were counting his anointment as a death sentence? What about the results of the surveys which showed his unpopularity because of his booboos, oooopss that is meant for children doing stupid things, rather failure of command in the execution and handling the results which disappointed a lot of people?
A couple of months ago, a lot of politicians are distancing themselves from Aquino for the Mamasapano Debacle. But Aquino has a cat like life. He resurrected after that!
And he was back with vengeance and even stubbornly went ahead with trying to pass the BBL with extreme urgency for he knows that the door of opportunity is closing. RailRoadriguez tried his best. Even BID was tapped for fundraising for to pay off the representathieves to hurdle the committee and some reserve for the rest of the pigs. But at the end of the day, the pigs in the lower house can only do so much for the hyenas at the Senate did not have their share and they are raising the alarm to shake down Aquino to offer them something in return, a larger share than their lowlife porcine relatives. So BBL is for the moment has some troubles and needs repair. One is letting go of the provision of opting in, but the real problem is that LP knows that passing BBL is like wiping half the votes that their bet should get for it is polarizing and the A, B & C demographics are divided in passing the BBL in a rush manner, so the decision for a reasonable pause.
With the major failure Aquino committed, we should expect that any Presidential Candidate would consider him a leper but Politics is indeed the Art of the Possible!
LP did not abandon their President but an outsider Poe who crucified Aquino in the Senate Report is so flattered being considered to in the Administration ticket! Even Binay who is the whipping boy of the administration is still hopeful to be anointed even though he knew his chance is only 0.01 % and for that Binay is the quintessential optimist. Binay can’t hide what he is actually hoping for that his solicitation of Aquino’s support is not limited to being officially declared but without shame declared Aquino can support him covertly, as 2016 NoyBi redux! Escudero knew being anointed as VP in the Administration ticket is as difficult of winning the lottery but he has other plans. He is there as a troublemaker. He would like to sell Poe-Chiz as unbreakable package, which really suits him and Poe, being naïve and inexperienced, is willing to entertain having a partner who is a serial traitor!
Aquino is challenged to choose who among the Presidentiables worth his blessing. He knows what he needs from them and the solicitors know what they are expected to do for the Aquino if ever there will be attempts to resurrect DAP issues and investigate Aquino’s culpability!
Aquino can offer these things:
3. Halo effect for Aquino remains popular for his selective Tuwid na Daan
4. Innoculation from serious lawsuits (If Poe is anointed, she has a better chance hurdling the Citizenship and Residency Issue, otherwise she is most likely disqualified for the same issues.)
5. Assurance that their votes are counted
6. A bonus that votes are bloated, courtesy of Hocus-PCOS
Aquino has a dilemma between choosing Poe or Roxas and the egging of his sisters to support Binay covertly:
Poe is popular but an outsider, inexperienced, mired with legitimate illegitimacy of her citizenship and residency, and questionable loyalty for Poe as President will most likely go to the dark side and free Jinggoy, Bong, Enrile, Gloria and not pursue the cases against the Binays for Eraps tentacles will be all over Poe’s administration.
Roxas on the other hand is a victim of well-planned demolition which started when Escudero betrayed him. From paid manipulated surveys to paid columnists and reporters who are tasked to diminish Roxas in every possible opportunity. Binay knows that he can’t inflict damage in Roxas integrity when it comes to corruption since Roxas is not implicated to any, but he knows that he can attract Roxas in his pretensions of trying to project what he is not his true character, thus the memes of Martilyo, Kargador, Pick-up, and many inane and petty characterization far away from being corrupt! Roxas numbers in manipulated surveys are surely not going to pick-up for the questions are engineered for him to lose. Once Roxas is anointed by Aquino and declared officially his candidacy as President, the field narrows. There will be clarity of the differences, the platforms and vision being offered. Roxas’ not being implicated in any corruption, experience, machinery, his investment in DILG, and the perception that he is the best person to continue the Aquino’s Tuwid na Daan will be stark contrast to against his opponents. Roxas numbers will pick-up a bit just enough to justify if he is declared a winner in a plurality.
Binay on the other hand will be down in the pits and will hold a reasonable amount of votes from his captured Makati well-fed-of-cake constituents and the poor who are not informed in anyway of his corruptions which will be a third half of his original admirers for a third will go for Poe and a third will go for Roxas (Assuming he is the anointed) courtesy of LP Machinery and the DILG projects manna which the local leaders happily received and expected to deliver for Roxas by hook or by crook. Binay will be lucky if he is not yet charge of malversation or worst plunder before or during the campaign period, but it is unavoidable for the master plan of LP will never be viable without that element of serious and believable charges. Now that AMLC has the goods with Baloloy and Limlingan in hiding with Billions of pesos of Binays’ ill-gotten wealth entrusted to them they are lucky if they are still alive. Another thorn in their Game of Thrones, Binay edition, is the possible passing of Anti-dynasty law, which will chop their influence greatly for they have to choose among themselves who to remain in power. There is even a possibility of murder in the family if Abi is not given the place she deserves for she knows that she is the smartest among the three and can’t take it that her stupid sister is reaping the rewards she does not deserve! Binay will be extra-crispy toasted once this election is over and he knows that his best exit strategy is Poe being Aquino’s anointed for Binay has great chance of negotiating with her rather than Roxas who will enjoy hauling the Binays in prison and throwing away the keys to melt it in a foundry!
Aquino’s main intent is to save himself to any troubles once his tenure ends. Tuwid na Daan ‘s continuity is a bonus but if he thinks his anointed candidate will have a great odds to lose then he does not give a damn if Tuwid na Daan continues as long as he saves his ass. But for now that LP explained to him that whoever he chooses will be the winner for all the holes are plug and they have the nuclear option of Hocus-PCOS, there is no way that Aquino’s candidate will lose. In closing, the LP honchos made a very convincing plea:
“Why give the power to someone who is an outsider and you can’t trust while we in our party proven to you through thick and thin that we are with you, we planned and worked vigorously for the continuity of our party’s hold to power in the next six years and possibly another six after that. Please think carefully that what is at stake is your legacy, the continuity of the Tuwid na Daan, the stability of our nation, and the poise economic progress that we are to offer, and you will just offer on a silver platter our hard work to an outsider who has a greater possibility of biting us back?”
A great question indeed!
How could Pnoy trust Poe! She owes Pnoy her political baptism thru her MTRCB appointment and later her ADOPTION in the LP senatorial ticket in 2013. Yet, while being silent on binay mega corruption, crucified Pnoyy in her Mamasapano report even suggesting impeachment. I think even the exchanges between her and the binay camp lately was just for show and scripted. I believe her loyalty is to Erap and cohorts. I don’t trust her at all.
How could Pnoy trust Poe! She owes Pnoy her political baptism thru her MTRCB appointment and later her ADOPTION in the LP senatorial ticket in 2013. Yet, while being silent on binay mega corruption, crucified Pnoyy in her Mamasapano report even suggesting impeachment. I think even the exchanges between her and the binay camp lately was just for show and scripted. Her association with escudero, erap ongpin et al makes her commitment to honest governnance suspect.
Agree with you, Poe is too risky to entrust the presidency.
Did the 20-senator-signatory Mamasapano report ever reach the plenary?
Kawing-kawing ang relasyon ng mga politiko…lantaran man o pailalim.
Ano pa kaya ang pinag-usapan ni Poe at PNoy bukod sa tutorial on “How to evade questions from journos?”
Joe America says
That’s an excellent question. What happened to that political demolition job otherwise called an investigation in aid of legislation.
From Amita Legaspi…
More from: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/505302/news/nation/grace-poe-senate-panel-report-on-mamasapano-clash-won-t-be-tackled-in-plenary
Agree to all except the Hocus-PCOS part. Pres. Noynoy made a promise to Binay that the only help he can do is a clean 2016 election. We all know that the president seldom breaks his words. The LP would sure know that they can’t count on Pres. Noynoy agreeing to rigging the election to make Roxas win, without which Roxas will surely lose. A rigged 2016 election will destroy whatever legacy the president has nurtured in his six years reign as president.
What should the president do? No other option but to go for the sure winner.
Aquino agreed before of rigging the 2013 elections with the unbelievable 60-30-10 pattern accross almost all regions no matter whose bailiwick it is, which benefitted his allies in the Senate and the concession on Nancy and JV joining the pool.
PNoy can promise Binay anything now but PNoy is pragmatic and not lose a sleep for one more engineered election results.
As I mentioned, LP is an evil genius, and UNA are death scared for they know the game and the same personalities of magicians are still hyperactive for both sides are fighting for its survival. This is a winner take all election and LP does no want to lose.
Porky Drilon is scared stiff hat if LP lost, he will be the first to be skewered like a roasted pig and the Filipino Talleyrand is always on top of his game.
Aquino knows that whoever he picks is a sure winner anyway, all he needs to narrow it down is who can he trust of his freedom? Reality is that Poe is too risky to be entrusted with his freedom!
Parekoy wrote: – ‘Poe is popular but an outsider, inexperienced, mired with legitimate illegitimacy of her citizenship and residency’ One of the interesting, if not the MOST, interesting and suspense topic that will be here up to April , 2016!
Poe is now ‘news worthy person.’ National. Her public statements are of general knowledge to almost every Filipino interested. She gave a lot of public statements, such as follows:
1.) “I would rather have that issue than plunder or anything else to defend myself,” said Poe.” [ re – A recent Social Weather Stations (SWS) survey shows Poe nearly neck and neck with Vice President Binay.]
2. ” I didn’t have to go through a special procedure to acquire my citizenship,” Poe said. ” [ re – Natural-born citizens are those who are citizens of the Philippines from birth without having to perform any act to acquire or perfect their Philippine citizenship.]
3. “”Ang sasabihin ba natin, isang foundling, kailangan ba nating limitahan ang pagkakataon nito sa buhay sapagkat hindi natin alam ang tunay na magulang? Para sa akin, siguro tao na ang magdedesisyon nyan,” Poe said.” [ re ‘When that time comes, Poe will be ready’ ]
And the news report quoted Poe that – “Poe said she hopes to find the truth someday, not so she can run for President, but so she can finally put closure to this chapter in her life.”
The truth. What is the truth?
Sen. Poe as having been found as ‘infant was brought to the public hospital.’ What happened there at the hospital? Was a birth certificate form filled up in that hospital for the infant? Where is it, a copy of that?
‘Jaime Cardinal Sin, then Archbishop of Jaro, baptizes baby Grace’ photo and news report.
In Jaro where Baby Grace was found it is a place – “THERE WERE NO SECRETS in Jaro back in the sixties,” long-time resident Marilen Montinola Locsin said of the district in Iloilo which wealthy sugar barons once called home. “Jaro was a place where everybody knew each other. Either we were friends or relatives. Everybody knew what was going on during that time.”
No secrets. Except one secret – “But there is one secret that remains to be told, and the story begins at the Jaro Cathedral before dawn on September 3, 1968.” The secret of Baby Grace [Sen. Poe]
There will still be many questions, great questions, indeed. >b>Sen. Poe will be ready.
Link of some news quotes –
Gaya ni Baby Marciano, mayroon siyang Foundling Certificate.
Nguni’t sa kaniya napalitan na ito…
According to her, following jus soli doctrine, she already acquired Philippine citizenship.
Si Baby Marciano, pag wala pang nag-adopt hanggang sa pagtanda, makakakuha lang ng travel documents kung may Philippine passport ang naka-found sa kaniya…atbp…
The grant of Philippine passport to Baby Marciano is hinged on the passport of the founder and NOT on the foundling certificate ALONE. Paano kung patay na ang founder at walang naiwang sariling passport?
Bakit hindi na lang ituring ang foundling certificate gaya ng sa ordinaryong birth certificate ng isang anak na kilala ang magulang?
Sa adopted, naroon din sa passportdotcomdotph ang requirements. Kay GP kasama ang tatlong nabanggit niya sa interview.
Am I or others made to have that belief that – ” Kaya yung court order pa ang nagsilbing basehan ng birth certificate ko.” – has information that she is a ‘natural-born citizen?’ It looks like her statement is to that effect.
Suspense. In due time it will be known.
Sa step 2 na ba siya naka-acquire ng Philippine citizenship?
Si Baby Marciano (born and found June 7, 2015) na foundling certificate lang ang meron (Step 1), may awtomatiko na bang may Philippine citizenship na?
Step 2 finished after about 6-7 years later as a result of adoption proceedings.
May be contrary to…
Incidentally, in the 1961 U.N. Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness the operative definition of “by operation of law” denotes automaticity like when Baby Andrew, an abandoned child in a hospital, readily got his Japanese nationality at birth (#50 in the previous blog post).
” Ito yun, yung una ay foundling certificate.”
Wala pang Certificate of Foundling (OCRG Form 101) nuong 1968. Exposed child ang tawag nuon sa foundling ngayon. Section 5 of the Civil Registry Law of 1930 deals with registration and certification of birth. It also requires the finder of an exposed child to merely report the matter to the local civil registrar.
“In the case of an exposed child, the person who found the same shall report to the local civil registrar the place, date and hour of finding and other attendant circumstances.”
OCRG AO No. 1, series of 1993 or the IRR of the Civil Registry Law of 1930 provided a NEW rule requiring accomplishment of a Certificate of Foundling to be accomplished by the finder.
“Rule 29. Requirements for Registration of Foundling. No foundling shall be recorded in the civil register unless the following requirements are complied with:
a) certificate of Foundling (OCRG Form No. 101, Revised January 1993) accomplished correctly and completely; (N)”
Si Graciano ay ipinanganak kamakailan lang. Samantalang si Grace Poe ay ipinanganak nuon pang 1968. Kaya tiyak ko na may Certificate of Foundling si Graciano. Subalit hindi ko tiyak kung totoo ang sinabi ni Grace na may Certificate of Foundling siya.
Martial Bonifacio says
‘Lupang Hinirang’, inawit ng PGC sa gitna ng girian sa Batanes
Nagmatigasan ang Philippine Coast Guard at Taiwan Coast Guard matapos ideklara ng Taiwan Coast Guard na teritoryo nila ang ilang bahagi ng Batanes.
Thanks for their courage, Taiwan’s bullying was prevented. Sinong maniniwala na hindi nila alam kung nasaan sila? Much more sophisticated yung ship nila against our Coast Guard, tapos di nila alam na over na sila territory nila.
Buti di kasama ni Philippine Coast Guards si Farinas,…. Palusot para di mapahiya….
yong gizmos ng taiwanese ship are made in china. default niyan 9 dash mile at sinangkop ang batanes.
Grabe naman, nasa Pacific side?
I was teary eyed when I heard them sang “Lupang Hinirang”
Vhin AB says
A case of a weakling being bullied by a more powerful force. Kelan pa tayo matututo na huwag tanggapin ang ganitong klase na pagkapahiya dahil hindi kayang ipagtanggol ang sarili. Bulok na mga kagamitan. Walang puwersa at panay hingi lang ng saklolo sa US at UN.
Kunsabagay, sanay na tayo na sinasakop at pinaglalaruan ng ibang bansa habang ang pinag uusapan ay pulitika at showbiz. Kailan pa tayo maaawa sa sarili at magsimulang magkaisa sa ganitong paulit ulit na panganib?
Anticipating imminent arrest
Jojo forms his Team BEST
They will campaign while detained
Sympathy votes to be obtained
Though persecution they’ll still cry
Their political careers about to die
‘the bag of kickbacks [money] through the car windows.’ says Ruby Tuason St.Wt.
‘“After receiving the money [P1.5 million], I called up Senator Estrada and told him ‘I have money for you.’ I went to see him in his house in Greenhills, San Juan… I gave him the bag of money.’ says Ruby Tuason St.Wt.
‘After that, Tuason said she delivered to Estrada’s house another P4.2 million kickbacks’ says Ruby Tuason St.Wt.
‘she remembered that Estrada earned P19 million in commissions all in all.’ says Ruby Tuason St.Wt.
. . . Natural-born citizen. Not a ‘foundling.’
‘Tuason said she personally went to Estrada’s Senate office and delivered a bag of kickbacks. She said Estrada’s aide from his office helped her carry the bag.’ says Ruby Tuason St.Wt.
borne in the house; borne in the senate office and borne through car windows!
What a natural birth of kickback money!
Another one –
‘former Presidential Commission on Good Government (PCGG) Chairman Camilo Sabio asked the Supreme Court (SC) on Monday to stop the Ombudsman from implementing its order of his perpetual disqualification from public office.’
this is natural-outsbirth!
it’s either a senatong or PCGiGong! What’s happening to our country mga Henerales?
‘“Aalisin ko ang mga sige pa rin sa graft and corruption ngayon pero hindi naman si Pangulo kasama diyan (I will remove officials who are still involved in graft and corruption but the President is not part of that),” Binay said in a press briefing at the Luneta Hotel in Manila.’ VP Binay
Binay said he will not be a vindictive President by getting back at his opponents. Now he says ‘I will remove them except the President.’
Who are they / them? If not his political opponents! Isn’t it that ‘they & them’ are involved in graft and corruptions and that they are his political opponents!
He forgot about it not to get back at them.
Short memory na! Malapit na. Wag na Wag na!
Martial Bonifacio says
The irony when Binay attacks the platform of Pres. Pnoy “Daang Matuwid” napaghahalataan talaga na ang current na Bise-Presidente ay may BALUKTOT na pag-iisip.
VP Binay: I thought there’d be clean politics in Daang Matuwid
off topic ito. i frequently go to jejomar’s facebook to see and learn what he is selling and what his voters are buying. it is impressive to me how the myth lives on that binay “made” makati and that. his voters continue to harbor the fantasy that he can make their place as prosperous as makati. i am reminded that ms raissa herself described binay as a very good manager with the implication (made by her?) that binay’s good management made makati what it is today. i believe that what we need is an honest to goodness article in the style of ms raissa robles demonstrating with actual documents, facts and figures the fallacy of the myth. maganda sana kung pagkatapos ay isalin sa tagalog nung marunong managalog.