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September 6, 2015

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Just my opinion

By Raïssa Robles

The human rights lawyer  and 2016 presidential candidate Jejomar Binay wants Filipinos to “move on” from crying out against the injustice and atrocities committed by the Marcos dictatorship, because he said that, anyway, Marcos is dead.

Now that Marcos is dead, however, Binay wants to honor him by burying his alleged corpse at the Libingan ng mga Bayani.

Not only that, he wants the dictator’s son to be his running mate in 2016.

No member of the Marcos family – three of whom were also government officials during the dictatorship – has apologized for ANYTHING. Not the human rights abuses. Not the plunder. Nothing.

As someone on Facebook said, Anakin has completely gone over to the dark side.

I do believe Binay is setting the predicate for his own alleged misdeeds. He also wants voters to “move on” and erase whatever questions people have regarding his wealth.

Thanks to my fellow journo for this copy of the transcript. And to Luchi Cruz Valdez for asking Binay some tough questions.

We can’t move on until he has personally answered all those questions about his wealth, point by point.

Transcript of Vice President Jejomar C. Binay’s interview with Luchi Cruz Valdez at Reaksyon, dated 3 September 2015 from the Office of the Vice President

ANCHOR: (not recorded)
VP BINAY: My father was a government employee. Nakatikim din naman ako na pinaliliguan ka ng maaligamgam na tubig at pagkatapos mong maligo ay pinupunasan ka ng alkohol tapos nilalagyan ng pulbos. Noong namatay ang nanay ko, natuto ako na mabuhay ng mag-isa. Tumira ako sa kapatid ng tatay ko. Natuto akong gumising ng alas singko nagwawalis, ilalabas yung panabong, nagaalmusal, nangunguha ng kaning baboy, naglalaba, namamlantsa, namamalengke, marunong akong mamlantsa so bahagi ito ng buhay ko kaya alam na alam na diyan sa palengke, alam mo yung panutsa? Masarap iyon sa sago at gulaman. Yung panutsa napakalasa niyan kapag nilalandingan ng langaw iyon. (laughs)

ANCHOR: So doon niyo hinahalintulad ang sarili ninyo?
VP BINAY: Hindi naman. Ang sinasabi ko lang, nasa palengke ang mga tunay na tao. Hindi ba yung mga self righteous, sila lang ang may karapatan sa mundo, yung ganoon ba. Taong-tao ang makikita mo sa palengke.

ANCHOR: Bakit hindi po kayo sumipot sa subcommittee at pangalawa yung ibang mga inaasahang sumipot (Baloloy at Limlingan) ay nagtago?
VP BINAY: Alam mo lagi kong sinasabi, alam ho ninyo ang hindi pagsipot, binabalik ko sa nagtanong. Luchi kung ikaw si Vice President Jojo Binay, ang haharapin mo numero unong nambabastos. THe demeanor is marami ka pang dapat hingin. Pangatlo, guilty ka na. Hindi na yung very purpose of the invitation as a resource person which is tutulungan mo sila sa pagkatha ng batas. Ito, papalabasin na ikaw ay convicted na. Guilty. Nagsimula ito sa over pricing eto ngayon nasa graft and corruption. Ang lalayo na ho nito. Iyong kay Limlingan at baloloy, kung ang kalusugan mo ay katulad noong sa kalusugan ng dalawang iyon, tiyak na tiyak, kung sila man ay nagtatago, hindi ko alam. Kasi kapang sinabi kong sila ay nagtatago, alam ko kung nasaan sila. Basta hindi ko alam kung nasaan sila.

ANCHOR: Hindi niyo po alam kung nasaan sila?
VP BINAY: Sa Diyos at sa tao hindi ko alam

ANCHOR: Did you make an effort to getr in touch with them?
VP BINAY: Unang una na ho, alam ko na yung kalusugan ng mga iyon, baka ganoon din ang gagawin ko. Hindi ko alam kung magtatago pero hindi sisipot. Iba naman kasi ang hindi pagsipot sa nagtatago.

ANCHOR: You have 8 months to go to convince people that you are not guilty. May naiisip po ba kayong stratehiya?
VP BINAY: Noong una pinapalampas lang namin iyon kasi akala namin titigil. Pero ngayon naghabla na kami. Nagfile kami ng criminal case at civil case.

ANCHOR: As a political campaign strategy how will that help?
VP BINAY: Kapag hindi ka nagfile ng case sasabihin kung wala kang kasalanan bakit hindi ka lumalaban? Kita mo iyong hindi pagsipot kasalanan iyon lalo pa’t pinagsisinungalingan at sinisiraan ka anong ginagawa? Maghabla ka. Kaya naman ang sabi namin sa kanya, huwag niyo pilitin diyan sa Senado, dahil trabaho ng hukuman iyang ginagawa ninyo.

ANCHOR: Ang inaabangan po ng mga tao is yung running mate ninyo…
VP BINAY: Nasa selection committee na po. Noong una nasa search committee, tapos na po yung search committee. Nakapagsearch na sila. Kakaunti na lang po yung pinagpipilian na tao, pinipili na po.

ANCHOR: Si Bongbong Marcos ho ang pinakamatunog ngayon at pinapakita daw po nito na kayo ay isang political butterfly.
VP BINAY: Ang minamasama nila kay Bongbong ay siya ay anak ni former president Ferdinand Marcos. Pero si Ferdinand Marcos tapos na po, namatay na po. Iyong ipinaglaban natin ay nagamot na ho natin in a way at nabalik na po noong panahon ni president Cory ang diwa ng demokrasya. Hindi na ho issue.

ANCHOR: Kumpiyansa ho kayo na hindi gagawin ni Bongbong ang ginawa ng ama niya?
VP BINAY: Sabihin na lang natin na ang pinakamagandang assumption is the goodness of the man.

ANCHOR: Siguro po ang presumption ng mga botante ay nandiyan pa rin po si Imelda at si Imee. May takot po kaya na manumbalik ang rehimen na iyan?
VP BINAY: We are 102 million in population. Magiging kasinungalingan o kahipokrituhan ang sabihin sa iyo na mawawalan ng agam-agam lalong lalo na iyong mga naging biktima ng martial law. Pero tapos na iyon. For the first time sasabihin ko sa iyo, 2nd World War hindi ba ang atrocities ng mga hapon abot-abot? Bakit ngayon ok na ang relationship natin sa Japan? Di ba? Tapos na ang yugto na iyon. We have to move on. Ang gusto ko sana ay yung aking pamamahala ay maging unifying at healing administration.

ANCHOR: Senate lineup po ninyo? Marami pong nagsasabi na wala ng gustong pumartido sa inyo?
VP BINAY: Yung mga nagsasabi po niyan ay yung mga naglalabas na ako yung nasa pinakamababa sa survey na ginawa.

ANCHOR: LP? Ano nga po ang reaksiyon ninyo doon sa nangunguna na sa survey si Sec. Mar?
VP BINAY: Sabi nga ni minister Goebbels ng Germany, a lie repeated at the end of the day naniniwala na. Basta ho kami magkakaroon kami ng mga kandidato.

ANCHOR: Yung 12 mabubo po iyan?
VP BINAY: Pipilitin ho natin.

ANCHOR: Sabi niyo po ayaw niyo ng politiko sa gabinete pero nasabi niyo rin po na si Sec. Teves ay magiging parte ng gabinete ninyo. Siya po ay naging pulitiko mismo.
VP BINAY: Ang pagkatao po ni Sec. Teves ay hindi pulitiko.

ANCHOR: So pagkatao po ang pinag-uusapan?
VP BINAY: Although he belongs to a political family, nandiyan ho si Sec. Teves, outstanding, bright at mahusay na cabinet member natapos lang dahil iba na ang administrasyon. Gusto ko ho ang maging cabinet member ko ay katulad ni Secretary Teves may karanasan na, noong mawala sa gobyerno nagpapatuloy din naman po sa gawaing tama, wala ng learning curve. Tuloy-tuloy po ang trabaho. Iyong mga sa malamang na magiging problema, sa malamang din nagawan na ng solusyon.

Anchor: Sir kasi sa panahong ito, ang pakiramdam ng taong bayan, meron pa ba talagang matinong pwedeng italaga? Sa napakaraming posisyon sa Gabinete, isa-isahin na lang po natin halimbawa sa DOTC, isa po iyan sa mga talagang, sabihin na natin medyo kinamumuhian ngayon. Sino po ang nakikita ninyong ia-appoint sa posisyon na iyan? Saan pa ba may controversial?
VP Binay: Agriculture, iyong ang matindi, kasi iyan ang mga pulitiko…

Anchor: Exactly. Sino po ang itatalaga sa mga position na iyan kapag kayo ay naluklok?
VP Binay: Sana maniwala ka ha, hindi ko ho naisip pa kung sinong ilalagay ko sa DOTC, kasi ang napapag-isipan ko na ay iyon bang bahagi ng Communications, dapat tanggalin na iyon. Kailangan Department of Transportation na lang iyon, tapos ilagay na po natin sa ibang departamento iyong Transportation [Communication].

Anchor: Ano po sa tingin ninyo ang pangmatagalang lunas dito sa problema natin sa imprastruktura partikular sa traffic?
VP Binay: Alam mo Luchi, hindi lang sa traffic ha. Sa lahat-lahat ng yugto ng pamamahala, kinakailangan iyong namumuno at namamahala ay mayroong executive ability. Marunong magdala ng tao, marunong sa mga plano, at marunong magpa-implement ng kaniyang plano. Iyong ang kailangan, executive ability. I’d just like to go further. Luma na itong prinsipyo sa public administration -nag-aral ako ng public administration. Dati rati dito sa Pilipinas lalo na, Department of Health, kailangan doctor. Department of Public Works kailangan engineer. Hindi na po iyon ang current public administration policy. Ang kailangan na manager and administrator. Si Sec. Ping de Jesus, hindi engineer yon, but he was a successful secretary of the Department of Public Works. Iyong boss mo dito, si Mr. Pangilinan, nabuhay nila, naging maunlad na muli ang Makati Medical, ang manager doon hindi doctor, ang presidente hindi doctor. So, iyan ang sinasabi ko, marami tayong mapapag-usapang plano, plano, etc. Ang pinaka-importante diyan, iyong magpapa-implement niyan, iyong magpapatupad niyan ay dapat may executive ability. Manager or administrator.

Anchor: Wala na po masyadong oras, pero just to run through, iyong sa pinakamatutunog po na pahayag ninyo partikular sa platform, unang-una na iyong pagsusulong ninyo sa economic cha-cha at pati na sa term limits sa pagli-lift po noon. Maaari niyo po bang ipaliwanag halimbawa ang inyong posisyon doon sa foreign investments na tatanggalin niyo na iyong 60-40 limit? Hindi po ba sabi nga ng marami lalo na ang left-leaning groups anti-nationalist iyon?
VP Binay: Talagang consistent ang line na iyon. Aktibista din ako, ha. Pero sa mga pagkakataong ito, iyang mga restrictions na ganyan, dati-rati nandoon iyan sa Thailand, sinasabi nga ng Thailand isang dahilan kung bakit sila umunlad ay ni-lift nila, they became more liberal doon sa ganyang restrictions. So, mayroon naman tayong mga maituturong tama ang nangyari. Palagay ko, hindi naman mali, dapat nga magkaroon na tayo ng pagbabago sa ating Saligang Batas para maging liberal tayo, at may magi-invest dito sa Pilipinas.

Anchor: Term limits sir, bakit niyo ba sinusulong itong panunumbalik sa 1935 Constitution provision on limits?
VP Binay: Kasi po, sa mga nangyayari sa ating karanasan, medyo matagal po ang anim na taon para doon sa pinapangarap at ginugusto ng taumbayan. Tutal naman, pwede ding magtagal. Ibabalik natin iyong apat na taon kapag maganda, katanggap-tanggap ang ginawa ng pangulo, pwede siyang magpa-reelect ng isang beses pa. So ang kabuuan walong taon. Dahil iyong anim na taon, biro mo rally dito, negotiation dito. Hihintayin mo iyon hanggang anim na taon, hindi magiging productive.

Anchor: Pero ano po ba talaga ang ideal, wala naman kasing ideal diyan, sabi nga nila six years is too long for a bad president, too short for a good president. Eight years naman is too long for a bad one.
VP Binay: Too short in terms na wala na siyang re-election, in that sense. Ito, parang compromise na nga, naiisip-isip ko, 4 years, kapag masama, huwag ihalal. Kapag magaling, ihalal ulit. Magiging walong taon.

Anchor: But is this really that important, moving the nation forward, na isusulong ang mga amendments na iyan? Iyan ba talaga ang kakailanganin ng ating bansa sa puntong ito ng ating kasaysayan? Bakit iyan po ang idinidiin?
VP Binay: Kasi, nakakaranas tayo, nitong mga nakaraang administrasyon, sobrang haba. Bale ba naman, iyong nangyari pa kay President GMA, siyam na taon iyon, 6 plus 3 iyon.

Anchor: But that was extraordinary din naman kasi…
VP Binay: Oh well. Pero, maraming mga naging opposition, basta it stands, why do we have to take the risk, have that experience again of having a president who’s not good for six years?

Anchor: Ano pong priority ninyo sa oras na kayo’y maluklok?
VP Binay: This will be part of the first 100 days. Kasi malawak iyong pinagu-usapan natin, sa ekonomiya, sa social services, sa education, lahat iyon priorities eh. Sa ekonomiya, maipagpatuloy natin ang pagganda ng ating ekonomiya, iyong ating infrastructure needs–maiayos natin ang mga airports, railroads, etc. Sa education, dagdagan pa natin ng budget, at saka itong K-12 -ang konsepto ng K-12 maganda. Kaya lang iyong opposition dito medyo tama rin naman, na mukha yatang padalus-dalos, maraming hindi napaghandaan na ngayon ay lumalabas na problema.

Anchor: Maraming salamat po sa inyo Mr. Vice President, Jejomar C. Binay. Magandang gabi po.
VP Binay: Maraming salamat, at magandang gabi din po.

Tagged With: 2016 presidential elections, Senator Ferdinand "Bongbong" Marcos, Vice-President Jejomar Binay

Comments

  1. niknok says

    September 8, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    Off-topic ….
    2016 ELECTION POWER.POINT

    People’s Power.point:

    Boboto.ng.tao -MAR.angal
    bobo.tong.tao -BINAY.aran
    bobot.ong. tao -tra.POE

    Binay.Poe.wer.point:

    Poeta.masama.si.baboy.sikwat!
    Poe.tama.sa.masiba.boy.sikwat!
    Poet.a.masa.mas.ibaboy.sikwat
    Poe.ta.masama.si.bab.oy.si.kwat!
    Po.et.ama.sa.masiba.boy.sik.wat

  2. Young Filipino says

    September 7, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    We need to educate the masses especially the binay supporters these reasons why we all should not vote for this corrupt liar. We should communicate these to the masses in tagalog and in a way that they would truly understand that this country has everything to lose once binay becomes president

    • Aremem says

      September 8, 2015 at 7:47 AM

      Check this out!

      It’s the dictator’s turn to laugh at Binay by Boying Pimentel of PDI

      http://globalnation.inquirer.net/128167/its-the-dictators-turn-to-laugh-at-binay

      The Filipino communities in the world are laughing with this news about binay! Let us work together for their demise in politics and in Makati.

      • leona says

        September 8, 2015 at 7:05 PM

        ‘And it was then that Binay got in trouble. Raising his voice, the judge cited Binay for contempt.’
        “But why me, your honor,” Binay asked.’
        “For laughing the loudest!” was the response.’ [Boying Pimentel PDI]

        Now, the laughs in Makati City are in whispers. Jejo Binay LAUGHS the loudest in whispers.

        ssshh HAHA HA hhhsss

        • leona says

          September 8, 2015 at 7:11 PM

          Mga taga Probinsiya! :

          Jejomar Binay . . . Malakas ang tawa sa bulong!

          Ingat Kayo!

        • Pickers1368 says

          September 8, 2015 at 10:29 PM

          Suppressing one’s burst of laughter runs the risk of a mucus ballooning out of the nose.

        • balayang says

          September 9, 2015 at 2:59 AM

          BOOGERS and out comes Bong ☺

    • dalisay says

      September 8, 2015 at 8:22 AM

      amen to that. tama ka. alarming to hear that binay is believed to be “strong” in the provinces. kailangan talaga punta tayo sa “peripheries” gaya ng sabi ni pope francis.

  3. Parekoy says

    September 7, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    CPM- Shaping, Swaying, and Swinging the Minds

    Kudos to our blog!

    I can’t help to give credit when credit is due!

    Shaping

    Remember the times when this blog was considered by anti-Aquino  and others who are non-partisans as a mouthpiece of Aquino? Wow, if you are a longtime reader of this blog, you should have observed our growth and progress. By now the metamorphosis from the pure defenders of Aquino to a balanced criticism of his administration is an evidence of how far we matured.  Parekoy was among the first few who has the courage to criticize  Aquino Administration on its incompetence and hypocrisy when  his subordinates are messing up the Daang Matuwid. I got plenty of flaks from within this blogs as well as from loyal medlers too, who are Aquino Loyalist! I had the courage to stay the course of being fair and let my reasoning, logic, and well-founded evidence of my educated predictions and from unreliable infos helped others’s minds and convictions started to soften like a steel inside a burning furnace and ready to be pounded to a shape worthy of its strong characteristics and be hammered and pounded into a sword that will be the weapon against the corrupt and decapitate them, a sword like the Excalibur!

    Swaying

    Predictably, we are rooting for different potential candidates from Binay, Roxas, Poe, Duterte, even Santiago and Bongbong. Some of us were suspicious that Raissa’s silence on discussing Binay’s ill-gotten wealth and the glaring corruption to amass the same was evidence enough that she was leaning towards Binay for the presidency. But we are composed of people of courage too and put aside the fact that we might antagonize the owner’s leaning by strongly pursuing those angles critical to Binay’s ascencion to the throne. With fortitude, patience, and armed with reason and logic, I was able to force the issue to clarify what this  blog stands for, for I will not be a part of a propaganda machine of Aquino nor Binay, nor anybody’s agenda. I questioned Raissa if this blog has no sacred cows, takes no prisoners, and everybody, even us is game. And for the grace of our love for our country trumped our love for personalities, Raissa concurred that there are no sacred cows indeed!

    That was a momentous occassion for the clarity of this blog’s patriotism resonated not only within this blog  but also outside. We saw the effects on the readers and their stance in the social media and the most evident of which are the disqus sections of Inquirer and other newsies. The other blogs who are loyal and propagandists of Aquino stayed their course of being guard dogs of this administration instead of our nation. A rabid foreign one was even rewarded for his service to his master through the manipulation and insertion of the loyal dog’s named  by Aquino’s Goebbels Quezon and Lady Gaga Valte in the SONA. Some here in CPM were questioning why not mentioned Raissa instead? But, for me I shared it was an honor not be mentioned by the manipulators in the Palace for we preserve our integrity of being non-partisan and of only being loyal to the Filipino Interest and Well-being.  A badge of honor indeed, for not being recognized as one of the cogs in any propaganda machine.

    Our courage and position is true and our ideas and positions are way ahead compared to others. Remember when the time here that there were so many Poe supporters? What did some of us do? We exposed Poe’s weaknesses and baggages and why she is not worth to be the next president of this benighted land of ours, for Poe is an enigma, inexperienced, and could set back the Daang Matuwid by releasing Jinggoy, Bong, Enrile and other UNA personalities.  Erap’s people will populate the inner circle of Poe’s administration if ever she successfully fooled the electorate. Our supposedly intelligent long time commenters supported Poe not on the merits but based on her topping the surveys!? That was too much for me and some here who still have our heads on our shoulders, and we patiently explained that we should weigh them by their merits and potentials and ultimately who is good for the interest and well-being of the Fillipino People. Thankfully, we are successful in swaying the lost souls to the right path in due time. 

    Some Joes and Johns were slow in the head and slow in the reading of who is right for our Nation. Took them awhile before they changed their stance and now are with us lest they look stupid clinging to a TraPoe and a puppet of one stinky Chiz.

    Swaying we must, and we succeeded and still succeeding in opening their minds and hearts for the sole interest of our nation.

    Swinging

    Now that our voices are almost cohesive, our ideas resonate in almost all frequencies, from sub to hyper ranges. Meaning our voices are now heard not only by the middle class but there are important inroads to Masa as well and in the influential elites of this country! CPM’s ideas reaches even the deafs! What an accomplishment!

    With our voices acting as the sound of reason and fury of the swinging and swishing Excalibur, the likes of Binays are hurting and complaining that they are bullied in the Social Media. TraPoe  is now naked and can’t hide behind her puppeteer Chiz and facing Citizenship and Residency challenges. Bersamin and the seven Arroyo -appointed jusctices who mangled our laws to grant Enrile bail were  instantly exposed and attacked here and drove the netizens to do the same! Bongbong and his relentless burying of the ugly truth of Martial Law and the ill effects to our nation is constantly checked and the rebuttals are instant. The Marcoses can’t hide behind the billions they stole, CPM is here to stay keeping the light to show our new generations of the horror that was , is, and will be, if Marcos steps again in Malacanyang! Our struggles and crusades are not confined only to our state, but also against the effects of the  grip and influence of our Catholic Church to the faithful and recently we are in the forefront against another powerful religious entity of a dangerous cult of INC!  Those two are marred, weakened and their influence checked and now mindful that they can no longer fool with impunity their believers and followers. Oh great times indeed!

    As many of our commenters and loyal  readers are OFWs and migrants around the world, we were first to react and  exposed Bert Lina’s targeting of OFWs and migrants Balikbayan Boxes as one of the sources of Campaign Funds for 2016 and the play of Lina to corner the Balikbayan Box forwarding business since he wants to use his position and power to gain more  shares in this lucrative balikbayan box business. He is greedy and not yet satiated bybhis  other legitimate brokerage businesses, on top of his most lucrative smuggling business too! We were correct to defend instantly our brothers’ and sisters’ interest and the storm of attacks against Lina was so swift that  Aquino has no choice but to cave in. He issued directives and command to Lina that this madness has to stop! Expectedly the Joes and Johnnies Come Lately saw again the opportunity to ride on the cottails of our successful initiatives similar to unravelling Poe as TraPoe and again joined us on the issues once we are proven successful. Pasiguro yung iba, pag panalo na saka lang kikibo at akala mo sila pa ang oringinal na may ideya! They are a tad higher than the political butterflies but nonetheless opportunists!

    Again, kudos to you CPM on the job well done!

    But this pat on the back does not mean we can now relax! Nope! this means we are succeeding and on the right track of our own Totoong Daang Matuwid and we must remain vigilant and work harder and smarter to continue the noble idea of Totoong Daang Matuwid!

    Salamat sa pagmamahal nyo sa ating Inang Bayan…

    Parekoy

    09-07-2015

    • Parekoy says

      September 7, 2015 at 10:40 PM

      Bloggys should better bestow the award to the blog who is independent and not a propagandist and really deserves it: Raissa Robles

      Do you agree?

    • Parekoy says

      September 7, 2015 at 11:36 PM

      The MR filed by Ombudsman Carpio-Morales is so well-prepared and pointed out the fallacies of granting bail to Enrile. She even enumerated the failure to try Enrile’s motion within the rule of law as well as rules of court.

      It will be interesting to know how low these hoodlums in robes will sink the Supreme Court to the depths of impunity of disregarding the very justice they are sworn to uphold.

      I will not be surprise if they insist on being the lawyers of Enrile instead of being impartial Justices, they will pay their betrayal with their puny valueless lives.

  4. negrosfly says

    September 7, 2015 at 8:29 PM

    a great man once said ” those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it ” ! a message so simple and in Binay’s case very frightening !

    • Parekoy says

      September 7, 2015 at 10:44 PM

      Correct!

      Also those who are old and forget the past, better have their brains scanned, for Mr. Al Z. Heimers is beginning to occupy them.

      :)

      • concerned citizen says

        September 8, 2015 at 12:13 PM

        Think about this: Binay Pres. Marcos VP. The people get angry at Binay and do a Edsa. Who is the winner after all? Binay, the whole PDAF crew get pardoned, Marcos Sr get his Honorable Government burial. Only to forget and MOVE ON !

    • concerned citizen says

      September 8, 2015 at 12:15 PM

      Think about this: Binay Pres. Marcos VP. The people get angry at Binay and do a Edsa. Who is the winner after all? Binay, the whole PDAF crew get pardoned, Marcos Sr get his Honorable Government burial. Only to forget and MOVE ON !

  5. NHerrera says

    September 7, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    For the nth time Davao Mayor Duturte said he does not plan to run for a higher office in 2016 — ABS-CBN September 7, 2015 Evening News.

    Duterte’s last word? So, that is one less tandem option for Binay. Meaning no more Binay-Duterte tandem — as if that was ever a possibility for Binay, the Dark Sider. Hahaha.

    • NHerrera says

      September 7, 2015 at 7:50 PM

      TRIVIA

      The Ghost Month is not the whole month of August, from my readings. Rather it is August 14 to September 12. Thus, interesting political announcemnts may be due only AFTER September 12, which may also coincide with the release of the third quarter SWS/ PA survey result.

      • dalisay says

        September 8, 2015 at 8:38 AM

        totoo ba ang sabi ni tiglao na si mahar kelly mangahas komo siya ay pinsan ni fernando kelly poe jr ay ginawa nya yung huling survey sa isang paraan na bumango ang pangalan ni grace llamanzares? ang tanong daw sa mga respondents ” sino ang tatlong tao na pinakamahusay na maging presidente? eh di wow. eh di lumabas ang pangalan ni grace sa sagot ng mga tinanong. ang dapat daw na tanong: sino ang iboboto mo na maging presidente?””voter preference” mas mahusay daw na tanong at ganoon ang ginamit ni mangahas tungkol sa “vice-president”. ating abangan nga ang “third quarter sws survey kung paano kukunin ang “rating” o “standing” ng mga kandidato.
        “

    • Parekoy says

      September 7, 2015 at 10:55 PM

      Hanggang ngayon ba naman eh nagpapaligaw pa rin si Dirturte?

      Lumang style na yan…Tapos na ang ligawan.

      Poe will run as Prez.

      Trilanes will run as VP.

      De Lima will be a sure winner as Senator after her best handling of the INC implosion.

      Roxas declared a few weeks ago.

      Cayetano will be the VP of Roxas. His offensive style against the corrupt suits the tandem.

      Leni is running for Senate. Just found out that billions worth of projects were poured on Leni’s district by this administration. What I am wondering though is that not a single corruption of Leni making some money out of these projects ever surfaced? A miracle indeed! If indeed Leni is clean, then she should not be running for the senate and should instead be a candidate for canonization!

      A second miracle is need to be able to be considered though…

      • T2 MAC says

        September 8, 2015 at 4:28 PM

        Nagpapaligaw nga pero wa-epek. Style niya, di kinagat. Sa Davao lang yata naging epektib.

  6. duquemarino says

    September 7, 2015 at 6:03 PM

    Bin-Marc (Binay-Marcos) a union of convenience. Frozen ang bank accounts ni Binay, marami dollars si Marcos.

    Binay want the Filipinos to “move on” dahil patay na si Marcos at kalimutan na ang ginawa nya sa sambayanang Pilipino? And with you, move on to where? To perdition? No way, Jose.
    Patay na nga si Marcos pero ang kanyang anino/kaluluwa at nakalambong kay Bongbong.

    According to Binay, sabi raw ni Goebbels, a lie repeated at the end of the day naniniwala na.
    How many lies have you have you repeated that made your minions believe you?

    • moonie says

      September 8, 2015 at 4:14 AM

      binay himself has not moved on, still harping about his very distant past, his being orphan and poor.

      to binay, I say move on and stop glorifying your past. your past is gone and you’re no longer the musmos orphan you once were. you’re now an ubber rich politico, a hoarder and owner of suspect businesses, owner of several mansions, supremo of several land holdings and prime real estates too, also lifetime president of the boyscouts. you have dipped your hands into the public coffer and grabbed what doesn’t belong to you.

      like goebbels, binay believed in his own lies and comforted by them.

      • moonie says

        September 8, 2015 at 4:28 AM

        binay and goebbels ought to share the same fate, though goebbels might not be keen on binay, him not being aryan.

        • yvonne says

          September 8, 2015 at 10:19 PM

          just subscribing to email notifications

      • T2 MAC says

        September 8, 2015 at 5:38 PM

        Being poor and orphan at early tender age, Jojo Binay, in order to survive, prosper, and make something out of his sorry self, somehow decided to become kawatan – batang palengke ika nga.. And despite overcoming his circumstances, he was still not content and unable to reform himself, and for no good reason at all, he raised his kids just like him – a thief and a liar!

        • T2 MAC says

          September 8, 2015 at 5:54 PM

          Erratum:

          And despite overcoming his circumstances, he is still not content and unable to reform himself, and for no good reason at all, he raises his kids just like him – a thief and a liar!

  7. NHerrera says

    September 7, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    This is somewhat off topic. But it relates to his pandering of INC, another facet of the dark side of Binay, if only to get votes for the 2016 Election.

    Saturday’s Inquirer Editorial — Law’s course — concerns De Lima’s rightful action on the INC investigation on the complaints filed on the Sanguinian of INC, particularly that filed by INC’s former Minister Samson.

    Excerpts:
    —————————————————-
    A couple of days after Iglesia ni Cristo protesters vacated the intersection of Epifanio de los Santos Avenue and Shaw Boulevard, Justice Secretary Leila de Lima said something extraordinary. Or, rather, something most ordinary—she assured the public that the illegal detention case filed by three former members of the influential Iglesia ni Cristo against eight high church officials would follow the regular process. This is, of course, only as it should be.

    But because, on the one hand, she had been accused by the protesters of giving “extraordinary attention” to the case, and, on the other, she was feared to have been sidelined by the supposed agreement between the government and the INC which ended the protest, her simple, matter-of-fact statement assumed outsize importance. It was read as De Lima standing her ground, or even as the Iglesia ni Cristo losing the battle for control of the legal situation.

    It was, however, only as it should be. The regular process means that the case would first undergo what is called a preliminary investigation, by a prosecutor or panel of prosecutors. As Sen. Koko Pimentel earlier pointed out, the alleged offense involves individual persons, not the Iglesia ni Cristo as an institution. There is a definite procedure for investigating crimes allegedly committed by individuals.
    …
    They wanted her to accept the preliminary National Bureau of Investigation recommendation, as though De Lima did not exercise full control and discretion over the NBI’s actions. They wanted her to ignore the petition filed by the Samson family (once privileged members of the Iglesia ni Cristo themselves), as though she did not have the ministerial duty to accept the complaint.

    De Lima’s nemesis, Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte, whom she had investigated when she was chair of the Commission on Human Rights for grave abuses allegedly committed by the Davao Death Squad, has had nothing good to say about her since that encounter; but at the height of the street protests Duterte (a former prosecutor) offered his sympathies to De Lima. He did suggest that perhaps De Lima did not have to be the one to act on the complaint, because it was a sensitive issue with political consequences.
    …
    De Lima had to act on the complaint, precisely because it was sensitive and political. Else, what is a secretary of justice for?
    —————————————————-

    The link:

    http://opinion.inquirer.net/88251/laws-course

    • leona says

      September 7, 2015 at 8:26 PM

      Make the Department of Justice (DOJ) a constitutional body like other bodies in our Constitution – SC – in the Judiciary is one, the Ombudsman Office, CHR, Civil Service Com, Comelec and COA, independent from the Executive Dept. That way, less or minimize politics in it’s functions as to justice enforcement, etc.

      Will it work? Why not. So, make it a Commission on Justice.

      :-)

    • Theorista says

      September 7, 2015 at 8:33 PM

      Maybe what Duterte wants to say is “Langya ka, ang lakas ng loob mo! Talo mo pa ako sa ginawa mo! Swerte mo naman talaga maraming taong pumabor sa ginawa mo!”

  8. Manuel Buencamino says

    September 7, 2015 at 3:26 PM

    Maski na meron diplomatic relations ang Germany at Israel, patuloy pa din ang paghanap ng hustisya ng mga Holocaust survivors.
    Maski na kaibigan na natin ang Japan, patuloy pa din ang paghanap ng hustisya ng mga comfort women.
    Yun mga naging biktima sa killing fields ng Cambodia, sa genocide sa Africa, sa Middle East, at sa Bosnia…naghahanap pa din yun ng hustisya.
    Ang mga biktima ng human rights abuses dito sa atin, hanggang ngayon naghahanap pa din ng hustisya.

    Gusto kong makita si Binay harapin ang lahat ng mga iyon at sabihin niya sa kanila, “Tapos na ang yugto na iyon. We have to move on.”

    • M C says

      September 7, 2015 at 10:50 PM

      In what way do you think that “hustisya” can be attained? No motherhood statements, please. Fidel or Manong would sign the ASSO but the group of Balbino, Rolly or Prospero would implement it. Why are there no claims or suits against these people? Is it because it is just convenient to lay the blame on Marcos who was never involved in signing those ASSO? After a guy is arrested, the ACCRA Law Office goes to the defense of the individual. Was there an unholy alliance between the law firm and the one signing the ASSO?

      When a mom spanks the child, that can be categorized as “human rights abuse”. I guess the term has been overused as a propaganda tool of convicted felons like Benigno when those people are simply prisoners of war – a war between the Left and the Right. Benigno was jailed and convicted for illegal possession of firearms and his jailing is called “human rights abuse”?

      Or the “hustisya” is just getting monetary compensation from the estate of Mr. Marcos? If the next president provides the monetary compensation, has “hustisya” been attained?

      • Parekoy says

        September 7, 2015 at 11:03 PM

        The rapper, MC Hammer, filed bankruptcy due to his failure to manage his financial affairs.

        The blogger M C Hammer is in the brink of filing bankruptcy of ideas due to his failure of defending Marcoses.

        You are only in the brink, but I respect your loyalty and courage. You still have some silver lining now that you are pursuing the compensation angle, but acceptance that indeed Marcoses stole and givimg out sincere apology with returning the ill-gotten wealth will be a good start to a meaningful conversation.

        • M C says

          September 7, 2015 at 11:25 PM

          With the size of the assets available, I don’t think Marcos could have stolen such amount. That is a statement of fact and is never a defense of the guy. The total GNP over all those years does not even come close to what is available and can be provided as compensation – if such compensation is what can address that quest for “hustisya”. However, while it can be allotted to those who can legitimize their claim, giving it as a dole-out may not also be for their best interest. There may be a better way still – from a financial point of view as well as for tax considerations.

        • Parekoy says

          September 7, 2015 at 11:39 PM

          Now you are talking legit arguments…

          Good start on the magnitude of the ill-gotten wealth, still you concede that indeed itis ill-gotten implicitly.

        • karl garcia says

          September 9, 2015 at 7:06 AM

          tumawad na nga ang PCGG sa 50 billion .nung 1980 200 billion ang gdp nasa switzlerkland na siguro yung ninakaw by that time.

          pwedeng pwede punmitik ng pasimple at paunti unti.. di pa ako magaling sa math nyan ah.

      • cha says

        September 8, 2015 at 6:17 AM

        1. “In what way do you think that “hustisya” can be attained?”

        If this were still biblical times then It would be a case of an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Life for life. Then Marcos would have been dead a thousand times over. But lucky for him, we now live in civilized times and so instead of literally paying for the many innocent lives lost and shattered because of his murderous and cruel and abusive treatment of those who dared stand up and fight against his rule, justice nowadays for his victims can be had in terms of an estimated value to compensate for their loss and injuries suffered. Is that justice enough? Probably not. Ask yourself how much would be enough for your wife or daughter being raped, for your son or yourself being physically and psychologically tortured then eventually shot to death? Would money bring the dead back? Will it erase the memories of being terrorized and devalued as a human being. No, I don’t think so. But that is how our civilized justice system works. If you are not happy with that, then what would you rather there was?

        2. “Is it because it is just convenient to lay the blame on Marcos who was never involved in signing those ASSO?”

        Where did you learn your history from? Who do you think signed the orders of arrest for Aquino et al upon the declaration of Martial Law? Who suspended the writ of habeas corpus that paved the way for those arrests and detention of Marcos’ political enemies? Who do you think gave the authority and approval to the likes of Abadilla to round up and torture everyone and anyone suspected of ‘subversive’ activities against Marcos’ rule? Who do you think appointed and promoted all the military top brass that oversaw the systematic torture, forced disappearances and abuse of all those human rights victims that have now come forward? Mickey Mouse maybe?

        3. “After a guy is arrested, the ACCRA Law Office goes to the defense of the individual.”

        Are you kidding me?

        4. “When a mom spanks the child, that can be categorized as “human rights abuse”.”

        You are making this up as you go along, aren’t you? I was spanked as a child, once or twice. I wasn’t punched, electrocuted, molested and definitely did not have my life taken. If you can’t tell the difference between spanking and actual human rights abuse, you have no business even talking about it.

        5. “If the next president provides the monetary compensation, has “hustisya” been attained?”

        Why will the next President provide for the monetary compensation? The money is supposed to come from the Marcos estate, which your idol Bongbong and the rest of his family is fighting to keep for themselves. Again, if you don’t have a proper understanding of how the justice system works, you really shouldn’t be arguing for or against it.

        6. A final word.

        Unlike the previous commenter, I have no respect whatsoever for the likes of you. I have nothing but contempt for people who knowingly allow themselves to be fooled by Marcos’ kin and supporters. Worse are those who take it upon themselves to help spread the lies and be part of denying a part of our history that many of us still living have actually witnessed for ourselves. Every word out of your mouths and keyboards or what have you is an affront to the dignity of the many who have been wronged and an insult to the intelligence of those who have been witness to Marcos’ atrocities.

        So please shut the hell up.

        • Ancient Mariner says

          September 8, 2015 at 6:56 AM

          Ride on. You said it as it is.

        • cha says

          September 8, 2015 at 3:10 PM

          :)

        • Vhin AB says

          September 8, 2015 at 7:30 AM

          @Cha:

          Let me add sa sinabi mo na “an eye for an eye” during biblical times. Hindi lang si Apo Marcos ang papatayin dahil pagdating ng araw ay baka gumanti pa nga naman. Kaya normal na isinasama pati ang asawa, mga anak at apo maging ang mga hayop kung minsan. Uubusin ang lahi.

          Kung yan ang HUSTISYA na ipinapatupad ngayon ay wala na sanag Bongbong na nag eexpose ng kabobohan sa senado ngayon hahaha.

        • cha says

          September 8, 2015 at 2:59 PM

          Unfortunately for us, chances are Bongbong will live a long life like the shrivelled up and decaying Enrile. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Only in their case, nagpipista na ang mga uod sa latawan nila bago pa man sila ilibing. Galing sa bulok, mauuwi rin sa bulok.

        • balayang says

          September 9, 2015 at 3:15 AM

          Cha, you are stating a scientific fact. Humans are actually 60% bacteria and microbes. The longer one survives the more microbes one carries on his/her body. Enrile must be a 100% microbes by now. Just think of how much microbes he can spread to those around him. I would stay away from him if I were his kasambahay, wa ng halimuyak; panis at baho na inspite of the bath oils he soaks himself in. Pag hindi na nakaahon sa bath tub, Whitney Houston ang labas. Hindi na makakanta ng i will always love u.

        • cha says

          September 9, 2015 at 5:18 AM

          Baka ang kanta niya ay “Take My Breath Away” .

          :)

        • Rasec3 says

          September 8, 2015 at 9:52 AM

          You said it all @Cha, Amen to that :) IF, if I’am Bongbong I will commision group of people on both sides and dig all historical events on Martial Law and get all facts sorted out, He was not apologetic on pre Martial Law/first few years of martial law in which his Daddy made some good things for the country,that’s why he’s saying why he should not say sorry for the roads/bridges that was built, the Phil. Cultural Center, and the discipline/peace order.,, he’s not sorry for Marcos is the right man in chaotic time in Phil.. Mindanao conflict/Vietnam war escalating..There are lots to say sorry for the abused, torture, rape, killings, disappearance under your fathers watch, to have closure for all of these? let the comission have their reports , build a martial law museum, of course from your own pocket, say sorry of all the bad bad things happens, pay restitution, it’s the only way way to have closure, you got some good chance to lead the country and redemption.. everybody deserve a second chance..

        • cha says

          September 8, 2015 at 3:09 PM

          Very sensible suggestions for Bongbong to gain the people’s trust. But the question is, is the guy actually sensible? He didn’t seem to get the father’s much vaunted intelligence. Bobo nga daw sabi ni Vhin eh. What he does share with his old man is the callousness, the wickedness of spirit and the propensity to fake their credentials. Maybe lupus was also in the will? We’ll have to wait that one out.

        • balayang says

          September 9, 2015 at 3:18 AM

          Marcos wasn’t intelligent, he was sly, crafty and sneaky but he was articulate. I don’t think his mother was proud of him at all, at all.

        • cha says

          September 9, 2015 at 5:19 AM

          I stand corrected. :)

        • vander says

          September 9, 2015 at 6:43 PM

          @Rasec3,
          good ideas. hope to be realized.
          at the hindsight, bongets will not do that, “commision a group of people on both sides and dig”.
          bakit?
          dahil alam na alam niya ang mga pangyayari.
          walang pinag-iwan iyan sa isang nagtutulug-tulugan.
          hindi kayang gisingin kahit pa buhusan mo ng isang baldeng-tubig na sinlamig ng tunaw na yelo.
          pa iyan ay nabigyan natin siya ng chance sa furure, ML shall be back…
          hindi niya makakayanan ang mga batikos at welgang ipinadaranas ng kasalukuyang kontra kay pnoy.

        • vander says

          September 9, 2015 at 6:45 PM

          pag

        • Mary says

          September 8, 2015 at 2:14 PM

          BRAVO, cha…. I salute you! such eloquence and sense, so rare combination…

        • cha says

          September 8, 2015 at 3:13 PM

          Salamat, Mary. The Marcoses just make my blood boil. :)

        • M C says

          September 8, 2015 at 4:44 PM

          TO: Ms. Cha

          1. You just have to accept the fact that those who want “hustisya” were victims or prisoners of war in the struggle between the Left and the Right. When we chose that path before, we know the price. Weren’t we shouting “DIGMAANG BAYAN, SAGOT SA MARTIAL LAW’ before? For us who were idealistic youths at that time, maybe, there was even an element of romanticism but when the real fighting began, when the Right pulled the rug by declaring martial law, we never realized that such devices were a part of the arsenal of war. Indeed, the Right used all the arsenals of war available at its disposal. Surely, when you are at the receiving end, you may call it “injustice” but on the arena of battle, combatants lose all moral scrupples.

          Surely, we can not bring back the dead nor can there be a price for the agony and pain. However, as you have succinctly written, perhaps, monetary consideration may somehow provide an alleviation to a perceived “injustice”.

          2. The Right deemed Benigno et al as combatants for these people have connived with elements whose tactical dream was to replace our democratic way of life with national democracy and the dictatorship of the proletariat. Hence, for the Rightists, they were fair game. Anyone in the position of Mr. Marcos would have done the same. Even up to now, based on a recent interview, Mr. Jose Maria still dreams of a social arrangement devoid of reality and reason.

          Indeed, M.Marcos suspended the privilege of the writ but that was necessary at that time when lawlessness has become the order of the day. When Monkeys, Huks and those hired goons seem to be in a daily competition for number of kills and the legal system is being abused to protect the interests of the oligarchy, extra ordinary measures become necessary. Look at the abuse of the legal system where 58 people were massacred and we still seem to be in the preliminary investigation stage or several convicted drug lords are living the high life because the legal system still needs to address the needs of convicted felons.

          If I follow your logic, does it mean that simyon is the mastermind in the recent killing of Lumads in Surigao? Does it mean that simyon who promoted those generals who had their military stints in Mindanao is solely responsible for those killings in the strife-torn areas?

          3. You can ask a lot of businessmen who were in the lam at that time.

          4. Any physical pain brought upon to someone is a “human rights abuse”.

          5. For your information, Bonget never was and never shall be my idol. Modesty aside, I guess I am much better than him being a product of Diliman. Secondly, if you do not know anything about finance, you better stop talking about getting money from their “estate”. How can there be an “estate” for assets that are based on Heritage Funds or “estate” where assets are in flux? Under Philippine law. the “estate” is gone because the PCGG has literally pillaged their physical possessions. Assuming for the sake of argument that there are proceeds from the sale of gold, the IMF has already taken over the recovery effort. The Letters of Instruction regarding the disposition of the assets for Filipinos have been ignored by the international banks.

          My experiences can not allow Marcos’ kins and supporters to fool me. My business involves packaging of funding for projects. It just so happened that my association with bankers and financial institutions allowed me to have an appreciation of what Mr. Marcos has prepared for the Philippines and for our people. I know where and how to tap these funds and I do not need anyone to tell me how to go about this. In fact, I even proposed to PCGG long before a mechanism to avail of these assets but it seems that bureaucrats lack the wisdom and financial savy to think out of the box.

          The only way to “compensate” those who felt aggrieved is to work out monetization of those assets in Structured Financial Business Opportunities to generate the cash flows to provide sufficient funds for all of them – including all the csh requirements of the country. Note that Mr. Marcos was just a fiduciary for certain assets which were entered into “roll programs” which generated so much cash. He never needs to steal from government coffers unlike simyon who has to mask their pillage with a euphemistic “PDAF/DAP”.

          Be that as it may, there will be sufficient assistance and amelioration for lives lost and pain endured.

        • andrew lim says

          September 8, 2015 at 5:28 PM

          @MC.

          Please tell us more about your business of “packaging funding for projects.”. What is a Structured Financial Business Opportunity, can you give an example? And what do you mean by “I know where and how to tap these funds.”

          Can you give us bona fides so we will know you are not making this up? Who were your contemporaries in the left? In the finance industry? How old are you and where did you go to school?

          Have you met Michael de Guzman and Tanny Panahon?

        • cha says

          September 8, 2015 at 7:38 PM

          1. You just have to accept the fact that those who want “hustisya” were victims or prisoners of war in the struggle between the Left and the Right.

          You can accept whatever twisted reasoning, absurdities and lies you choose to accept. I don’t have to.

          2. “Anyone in the position of Mr. Marcos would have done the same”.

          Not true. Case in point: Ramon Magsaysay and the Hukbalahap. Read up on your history.

          3. “You can ask a lot of businessmen who were in the lam at that time.”

          Name them. And while you’re at it, you can also ask the peasant farmers, labor leaders, students/priests/nuns and other activists what the ACCRA has done for them.

          4. “Any physical pain brought upon to someone is a “human rights abuse”.”

          Sue your dentist.

          5. “For your information, Bonget never was and never shall be my idol. Modesty aside, I guess I am much better than him being a product of Diliman.”

          I disagree. You’re just about the same.

      • Manuel Buencamino says

        September 8, 2015 at 3:53 PM

        M C,

        You should ask the victims. They will tell you when they believe justice has been served.

        Meanwhile neither you nor I nor Binay have a right to tell any of them to move on and get over it.

  9. ako says

    September 7, 2015 at 3:10 PM

    ALDUB na lang interbyuhin mo mam luchi…

  10. ako says

    September 7, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    Bongbong Marcos is a legitimate child of Ferdinand and Imelda. These two people are nation’s coffer maniacs. So imagine that all the combined genes of these two treasure maniacs are in Bongbong. Just like vampire and wolf bear a son, this son is also an evil creature definitely. And at the proper time, his pangs will reveal…

    • balayang says

      September 7, 2015 at 11:22 PM

      NOW is the proper time; he will be using his parent’s hidden bank account to finance his FANGS for the house by the river.

  11. Fedi says

    September 7, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    For the last 2 years, I’ve enjoyed reading the comments of CPM.

    This is the first time that I’ve made a comment.

    Please don’t call Mar Roxas “Mr. Palengke”.

    My deceased father works to her Grand Mother Donna Amparo and Donna Esther
    Araneta. They are good Employer as what I am now today. My father has a high esteem and respect for them.
    Through their help to my father, I’ve got a college degree and have a comfortable life in US.

    • raissa says

      September 7, 2015 at 4:00 PM

      Hi Fedi,

      I can understand that you hold the Roxas family in high esteem because of your personal experience.

      The phrase “Mr. Palengke” is, I believe, not a pejorative term. In fact Mar Roxas used it in his political campaign.

    • Aremem says

      September 8, 2015 at 7:56 AM

      Welcome Fedi

      In politics, it’s a plus when you tie-up yourself with the common people! That’s why somebody is even feasting when they have a Boodle fight, rosary prayer or even a cult rally!

    • vander says

      September 9, 2015 at 6:23 PM

      hi @fedi, good to hear your comment.
      you read the thread wrong.
      mar was really “mr. palangke”
      it was his own making, remember his stint with the DTI when he spearheaded for the price monitoring of commodities in the marketplaces, palengkes?
      nothing is wrong with it.
      he used it during his campaigns.
      he was looked-up to for his humble portrayal of that.

  12. #shill says

    September 7, 2015 at 1:49 PM

    This interview is just one mass confusion of words… Word salad, anyone?

    • moonie says

      September 7, 2015 at 4:52 PM

      parang may echolalia siya, inappropriate choice of topics. hindi na tama ang pag-iisip.

  13. Kalahari says

    September 7, 2015 at 12:24 PM

    SHIFTING TRENDS MARK MILLION-VOTE INQ.NET POLL ON IGLESIA RALLY

    1. Who lost the most in the test of wills on Edsa over the weekend between the government and the Iglesia ni Cristo?

    A. Politicians like Poe, Binay, and Escudero who sought to accommodate the INC position in their statements – 47.79% (495,668 votes)

    B. The government, because its maximum tolerance policy seemed weak and took four days to work – 31.1% (322,553 votes)

    C. INC, because its show of force paralyzing Metro Manila angered many citizens – 12.29% (127,462 votes)

    D. Metro Manila residents, because of the aggravation they suffered over the weekend – 8.82% (91,578 votes)

    Total votes – 1,037,261 (PDI 9/7/15)

    • NHerrera says

      September 7, 2015 at 4:12 PM

      Kalahari,

      As the Inquirer link appropriately stated, The Inquirer.net poll is not a scientific survey. It is an interactivity tool that can, within its limits, reflect the interests of online readers.

      But my view considering the number of more than 1 million response, that respondents who I am sure are not all from the ABC class have a way of communicating this to their immediate relatives and then the friends through them directly or thru their relatives — is some sort of chain communication via text. So Binay, Poe and Escudero ratings cannot help but be affected. We will know soon enough from the SWS/PA survey results due in September or early October before the filing of the COCs.

      • dalisay says

        September 7, 2015 at 7:32 PM

        bobby tiglao is at the bottom of my list of worthwhile reads but a column of his pointed out that mahar kelly mangahas is a cousin of fernando kelly poe jr and did a hocus pocus of his recent sws survey to raise his niece grace’s standing as a presidentiable. it will be interesting to see how he will frame the interview questions for the sept survey. in his previous survey he asked the subjects the three names they thought would be ideal for president whereas for the position of vice-president, he asked who they would vote for. .

        • Marmee Cruz says

          September 7, 2015 at 8:51 PM

          Tiglao is not only GMA’s apologist extraordinaire but also a spinner of tall tales. I’m sure Mahar will never sabotage his credibility to give a high rating for Poe.

          Anything that comes out of Tiglao is suspect. Tsk…tsk… I know him personally and am so disappointed at what he has become. Sigh.

        • M C says

          September 7, 2015 at 10:57 PM

          “Suspect” because it is the truth and it exposes the rapacity, greed and corruption of simyon, et al? Tell me if what he wrote today re foreign control of our telecom industry is a “tall tale”.

        • Marmee Cruz says

          September 8, 2015 at 1:12 AM

          GMA was more rapacious. Have you forgotten the deleterious ZTE-NBN deal that was being pushed?

        • M C says

          September 8, 2015 at 4:59 PM

          Hija, magkaano lang naman yan ZTN deal kumpara sa PP160.0 Billion na kinurakot sa pangalang ng PDAF/DAP. Konting isip lang, senyora.

        • Mary says

          September 8, 2015 at 5:25 PM

          PP160.0 Billion na kinurakot sa pangalang ng PDAF/DAP…..

          please be the whistle blower and expose everything you know, file the appropriate charges at the Ombudsman, specify the details… the charges and details vs Enrile, Revilla, and Estrada as well as vs Napoles, Reyes we know already based on reports by investigative journalists… c’mon.. we would like to know…if that is just motherhood statements with no legs to stand on, without specifics, they are just that, irritating statements, mouthed by trolls

        • karl garcia says

          September 8, 2015 at 8:27 AM

          if he continued to be ambassador to Greece,what would he be writing about today?

        • karl garcia says

          September 9, 2015 at 6:26 AM

          he is sour graping, big time!

  14. Anna C. says

    September 7, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    First, walang mali sa mga sinabi nya. lahat may grounds at alam nya din pinagsasabi nya lalo na abogado sya. second, ung kay marcos, un din ung sasabihin ko eh. Meron sabi na “The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity”. Example, Murderer ang tatay ng isang bata, hindi ibig sabihin eh magiging murderer na din ang anak. Third, maganda naman ung mga plans nya, we just have to wait and see the execution, if ever. Let him have a taste of his own medicine na sinasabi nya limitation ng term, pag hindi maganda ung trabaho nya, wag iboto ulit.

    • raissa says

      September 7, 2015 at 11:11 AM

      This is an example of arguing in limited fashion. You said, “The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity”. Example, Murderer ang tatay ng isang bata, hindi ibig sabihin eh magiging murderer na din ang anak.

      However, let me point out that Sen. Marcos is a senator who wants to run for president. He has publicly expressed the belief that his father did no wrong. This means, in his mind the atrocities that happened during his father’s one-man rule are A-OK. What does that tell us if he becomes President. It means if such atrocities happen during his administration, they are A-OK too. I am not saying he will become a mass murderer like his father. I am saying that kind of attitude towards a mass murderer is not something that a President of a democratic country should have.

      I also find highly disturbing your manner of arguing.

      • moonie says

        September 7, 2015 at 4:05 PM

        raissa, the son is already following the apak of the tatay, gusto rin maging presidente gaya ng tatay. is hero worshipping the tatay too. it will not be surprising that if given chance, the son will create similar destiny as the father,and indications are, the son will do the same as the father, already wala siyang pakialam sa damdamin ng taumbayan. it’s all about him and his family and what they want. kung murderer ang tatay, chances are the son has the making of a murderer too, brought up in the same household, is sympathetic to the father. they share the same genetic makeup, have the same tendencies too, all is needed is trigger.

        look at erap, corrupt siya, ganon din ang anak. corrupt si binay, ganon din si junjun. apo did worse to the country, his son may yet eclipse him and do even worst.

        • moonie says

          September 7, 2015 at 4:15 PM

          if the son is withholding information, kasangkot ng krimin ng tatay and is receiving proceeds of stolen goods, then I say, persecute the son.

        • balayang says

          September 8, 2015 at 5:14 AM

          HEAR, HEAR !!!!!

        • balayang says

          September 8, 2015 at 12:15 PM

          Let’s all re-read the history of the Roman Empire and be reacquainted with the progenity of murderers !!!!

        • vander says

          September 9, 2015 at 6:06 PM

          @moonie,
          imo, mas magiging grabe pa.
          2 sets of genes, conjugal genes, ang namana.
          kakila-kilabot ang hinaharap ng bansa sa taong iyan.

    • Aremem says

      September 7, 2015 at 12:01 PM

      A nanC

      What about the Father of a family who became a Mayor, a thief and a corrupt official. Who manipulated his wife, son and daughters to become like him an Untouchable in his own world. The former mayor might be like his late father too, who can bet in cockfights but couldn’t support and give proper way of living to his family. Hindi lalayo ang bunga sa puno!

    • Rasec3 says

      September 7, 2015 at 12:20 PM

      It really hurts me when I read this kind of reasoning, The son will not bear the burden for his Dad’s iniquities? but look nagtamasa si Bongbong and his siblings sa mga loots ng daddy nya, nagaral sa Oxford, all the luxuries and perks in life,, imagine the stolen Millions- Billions perhaps that can be used to improved the quality of life,, Bongbong is indirectly responsible too IMO I dont dont know how old are you Anna C,, Martial Law baby?… As Keith Olbermann always said.. Anna C. is the worst person in the world..

    • leona says

      September 7, 2015 at 8:55 PM

      Not only ‘the father being a murderer.’ When the ‘father was also ‘stealing and thieving, or plundering,’ and the son being educated in a good University, continues using, spending and benefiting the stolen money, how is that?

      Did the son-senator ever checked how much ‘was the salary of his father’ for 20 years? Bakit naging ‘dollars’ ang wealth instead of ‘Pesos’? Not a small ‘million’ but billions in dollars. How is that?

      Di ba accomplice after the fact is a son in that sense? ‘Accomplice’ is akin to ‘Principal’ in crimes . . . who profits or gets the benefits of the act. HIndi puede ibig sabihin isa rin yun anak kagaya ng ama?

      Kaya ayaw mag bigay ng ‘apology’? Ako, pag alam ko ang ‘tatay ko’ ay nag nakaw, magagalit ako sa ‘tatay ko’ siempre! Isasa uli ko yun ni nakaw, di ba? Kasama ang ‘my apology’ siempre. In this sense, I bear the sins of ‘my father.’

      Anong say-say mo?

    • Parekoy says

      September 7, 2015 at 11:06 PM

      Your argument is correct if the son is not complici, but he is and even guilty of perpetuating double murder by declining that the murder never happened, even he was also caught holding the wallet of the victim.

    • balayang says

      September 8, 2015 at 5:20 AM

      BELAT SA YO, kalANNA C,,, the NERVE ####rrr

  15. Richard Gatelw says

    September 7, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Oh, wala nang bago, all I can plainly say is ” It’s Bullshit!”

    • raissa says

      September 7, 2015 at 11:13 AM

      which is bullshit?

      • Aremem says

        September 7, 2015 at 12:03 PM

        Of course the sign of the time with a capital B!

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