DID GRACE POE EVADE PAYMENT OF PHILIPPINE TAXES?
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In August, 2000, Fernando Poe, Jr. together with wife Susan Roces, Mary Grace Poe Llamanzares, Joseph Martin Sonora, and Jeffrey Stevens Sonora formed the 226 Wilson Development Corporation with business address at 23 Lincoln St, Greenhills, San Juan.
The family-owned business was registered with the SEC on March 2001 with a capitalization of P170 million. It was involved in developing, selling, and leasing real estate properties. As of December 31, 2002 its total assets was P77.8 million.
Although Grace Poe was involved in the business starting in 2000, her record shows that she only acquired her Philippine TIN in 7/22/2005.
Does it mean she did not pay any taxes for income she earned from the family-owned business?
yvonnesays
A person can only have one TIN, and it is illegal for anyone to have more than one TIN. Grace Poe could not have paid any Philippine taxes prior to her acquisition of TIN in 2005.
curveballsays
Ano na ang nangyari dito? Punta (palusot) sa kanan (nagbayad ng tax), hulog sa kanal kasi sabi mo nga @Yvonne, wala pa sya TIN ng 2000. Punta (Palusot) sa kaliwa (di nabayad ng tax), hulog din sa kanal. Kasi tax evasion naman sya.
yvonnesays
Nuong 2005 lamang nag-apply at nakakuha ng TIN si Grace Poe.
Pero kasama na siya sa negosyo noon pang 2000.
Ang ibig sabihin nito ay hindi siya nagbabayad ng tax noung panahon na wala pa siyang TIN.
kalakalasays
more or less ay hindi na din declare sa kanyang SALN for the year 2001 up to may be 20013. talagang maraming butas na dapat tapalan.
yvonnesays
Required lang siyang magdeclare ng SALN simula nuong panahon na nasa government service na siya.
I don’t know if required na siyang magdeclare ng SALN nang maging Chair siya ng MTRCB.
junie garciasays
Upon joining government, one needs to file a SALN. He/she has to do this every year he’s in the government service and on the year he/she leaves the service.
kalakalasays
hindi lang sya na corner, double corner ang nagyayari sa kay mgl.
wala na syang rason pa. tax evasion, lack of 10 years residency, lahat na mga sagot kasinungalinan dahil hindi na oobra ang honest mistake
yvonnesays
Meron pa akong ilalabas, paki-abangan mo.
:-)
kalakalasays
ang akala ng marami ay nabawasan or mawawala na ang mga side issues dahil pinag bawalan na ng sc na mag-ingay ang camp poe. ang galing talaga ng iyong timing @yvonne.
kalakalasays
@yvonne promise aabangan ko. bye for now at susunduin ko muna ang aking anak sa sch. but, excited to be back soon ;-D
junie garciasays
Does anyone have the smoking gun on Binay? With all attention focused on GPL, his misdeeds have been forgotten and he’s back on top of the surveys again.
parengtonysays
Base sa mga detalyeng nakalaad dito, it is presumptuous to say “she did not pay any taxes for income she earned from the family-owned business?” as this responsibility lies with the corporation and not with the individual shareholders.
yvonnesays
A corporation pays taxes for its corporate income.
And when it pays salaries, dividends, allowances, honorarium, etc., to its officers and employees those income become taxable to the individuals.
The corporation may provide the service of filing for the individual’s taxes but they are done separately and in the individual’s TIN.
I’m even giving Grace Poe the benefit of the doubt – I phrased the title of my post with a question mark.
parengtonysays
Kanya nga, as has pointed out here, shareholders do not pay income taxes on corporate income. However, based only on these two premises –
1.that Grace Poe was a shareholder of a corporation since 2000;
2. that Grace Poe acquired her TIN in 2006 –
you insinuate that ” GRACE POE EVADE(D) PAYMENT OF PHILIPPINE TAXES?”
raissasays
You have a point.
raissasays
Can you check, though, whether it declared dividends.
The income would come from that.
And what GPL’s position was in the corporation?
yvonnesays
I tried to obtain this information before without success. Online public access to the SEC records is severely limited (I remember you wrote about this same problem before.)
The SEC online search does not even show a 226 Wilson Development Corporation. I tried a “blind” search and it returned two companies with similar names, but other than their names no other information can be accessed online about those companies. I don’t know if it is for the reason that they are not publicly-held companies.
Being a company-owned business, Grace Poe could have still actively participated in the business in an administrative function even while she was in the U.S. Many companies with officers and employees spread all over different locations operate this way using the internet. So she could have still derived an income from the business even if it did not pay dividends.
Rene-Ipilsays
Yes. GPL did evade payment of Philippine taxes from 2005 to 2009. That she has been domiciled in the Philippines since 2005 is a declaration against interest which constitutes strong evidence against the declarant.
GPL is either guilty of non-payment of Philippine tax by evading payment of travel tax or of perjury by falsely claiming under oath that she had been a permanent resident of the Philippines since 2005. I am presently researching which offense carries a lesser jail penalty.
NHerrerasays
That is usually the result of a lie or let us say “palusot.” You claim something now which is inconsistent with documented items you yourself did, and so magkakapatong ang kailangang palusot.
It is said for example that a normal person may not have 100% recall or memory of a crime he witnessed, but if he is not lying he will be consistent in the main no matter what questions are posed or in whatever form. And good judges are able to discern this. In fact, it is said that if a witness is apparently very very consistent, there is probably something wrong and the answers of the witness may in fact be rehearsed and hiding something.
yvonnesays
I have one more coming up on this subject.
kalakalasays
basing on @yvonne’s latest revelation, ito ba ay isa sa mga dahilan kung bakit ang kanyang kampo ay masigasig para manalo sya bilang presidente? working hard. very, very hard letting no stone unturned – even the stones at the cemetery.
baycassays
Exhuming arguendo, Some believe that it is so In Camp Poe
kalakalasays
he he [email protected] baycas…digging arguments in camp poe
arguendo- is a Latin legal term meaning for the sake of argument (from wiki)
and camp poe is located at CAMPOE SANTO
baycassays
‘Digging dirt’ is the forte of a ‘sleuth’ like @yvonne…
And, as proven before, her work may not center only on a particular candidate as I believe she also has the goods on other electoral hopefuls.
The pieces of documentary evidence do not lie. Tthis must be emphasized.
kalakalasays
sana ma publish sa newspapers itong latest “dirt” para malaman na din ng mga mamamayan at mabasa naman natin ang rebuttal ng camp poe. anyway pinatahimik na sila ng sc. dito naman sila ngayon mag depensa. check mate na naman!
yvonnesays
Ah, but my forte is analyzing the thermodynamic properties of dual-phase hydrocarbon fractions.
Other than that, I’m just your typical CPMer just like the rest of us.
kalakalasays
pag hindi itong 226 Wilson Development Corporation naka lagay sa SALN ni mgl ano ang ibig nyang sabihin nito/or ano naman ang kanyang palusot?
nettysays
Eh di honest mistake, or sabi nga ni Pookyaw na-misplaced lang, uhhmmm
This is my song for you referring to GPL @Kalakala fr the king of Rock and Roll,,,,
“(You’re The) Devil In Disguise”
You look like an angel
Walk like an angel
Talk like an angel
But I got wise
You’re the devil in disguise
Oh yes you are
The devil in disguise
You fooled me with your kisses
You cheated and you schemed
Heaven knows how you lied to me
You’re not the way you seemed
You look like an angel
Walk like an angel
Talk like an angel
But I got wise
yvonnesays
In her 2014 SALN, Grace Poe declared P7,375,000 worth of inherited stocks in 226 Wilson Development Corporation.
What is unclear is if she declared, in her SALN for earlier years, any original ownership of stocks acquired when the corporation was first organized in 2000. And equally interesting is if she ever paid taxes for any income derived from the business.
Vhin ABsays
Good job Yvonne
balayangsays
Dig na lang ng dig; maraming misterio sa CamPOE santo . Isunod sa excavation ang boy scout ng makiling ✄ ✍
yvonnesays
I have a very interesting post about the Boy Scouts of Mt. Makiling ;-) just waiting for the right timing for posting.
Supsays
Now? To high now in the polls..maybe his heart could not handle your post….:-)
chit navarrosays
Did she pay inheritance tax on those stocks?
Inherited stocks is different from stocks distributed to stockholders due to realignment of stockholders. Inherited stocks meansthis was given as part of inheritance so it should be subject to inheritance tax.
Kalaharisays
Binay, Escudero lead 2016 race – SWS poll
Vp binay and chiz escudero would be the winning tandem if elections were held in early January, according to results of the latest SWS pre-election survey released early today, January 15.
Binay – 31% from 26% in December
P o e – 24% from 26%
M a r – 21% from 22%
Du30 – remained at 20%
Chiz – 28% from 30%
Mrcos 25% from 19%
Leni – 17% from 19%
Alan – 14% from 17%
If the trend continues, this will not be good for the country.
Rollysays
Pretty sure, Roxas will be elected this 2016.
With Marcos’ billions, Leni’s chances hang in the balance. People should unite behind Leni to prevent the Junior Marcos coming into the fore.
No Marcos should be allowed back to power, not even in the doorstep…never again in a million years.
chit navarrosays
Pretty sure and definite, very definite – Roxas & Robredo leads our country come June, 2016…. or is it July?
Kailan pa nagkaroon ng eleksiyon sa Pilipinas na hindi nanalo ang kandidato ng incumbent President? Lalong-lalo na at palaging tinitira si Pres. Aquino na ikukulong siya pagbaba niya ng puwesto?
Do your math – who has the power and the funds? and best of all,
WHOSE CANDIDATES ARE THE BEST-QUALIFIED?
sykessays
@Rolly
pretty sure ka dyan…kailangan mong lumaklak ng isang drum ng realidad.
numbet 1 si Roxas pagdating sa campaign spending pero look what happened. nabawasan pa numbers nya…lol
face it pipol. si Binay ang next president natin.
and we have to thank Aquino, Abaya, Abad, the Liberal Party and yes, the Yellowtards for that.
digital na karma ngayon kaya yan ang resulta ng “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”
baboyin ba naman mga gov’t institutions in order to take down the one person who could’ve beaten Binay…lol
para sa masa, ramdam nila na ang Daang Matuwid, pa-impyerno pala salamat sa trapik, palpak na MRT at spectacular failures sa Yolanda at Mamasapano. ?
as i’ve said before, Mar is Gibo 2.0
Gibo got flak for Ondoy (yep, yung ginagamit ni Mar sa tv ad nya) and Maguindanao massacre.
Roxas for Yolanda and Mamasapano (and MRT)
tanggapin na lang kahit mahirap na si Jejemon Binay ang next president natin. ??
mooniesays
I dont care what survey say, pasaway ako! I’ll vote for tambalang roxas and robredo. roxas for president and robredo for vice president. it’s good to be pasaway, loved being one and answering only to my conscience, not to surveys.
I dont trust faceless people participating in surveys, pretending to know what I think, and who I vote.
mooniesays
election time is best time for people to hit back at surveys. specially the millions that wanted to be part of surveys but not given chance, wanted to participate but denied participation. at election time, the millions who were ignored will settle the score and thrash the surveys.
Supsays
SWS..Binay…Vice……Bong bong is coming..( Binay maybe not finish the term…)
Yeah…let’s party again..soon good times are back!!!
A binay-marcos win will be calamitous to the country due to their trademarks as accomplished MAGNA,
The country’s reputation in the community of nations may be downgraded to a country of ill-repute and the rank-and-file of the bureaucracy may follow what the top leaders are doing – similar to the gma regime, and maybe worst.
Let’s work harder through our contacts in the social media to reverse the trend and save our country towards the unknown/brink of hell
leonasays
‘In a comment on David’s petition, the OSG has submitted its position on the citizenship issue and argued that the SET was correct in ruling that Poe is a natural-born citizen based on evidence like her physical features and circumstances surrounding her abandonment and discovery.’
“Physical features as EVIDENCE that one, like Grace Poe is, very LIKELY a natural born Filipino citizen, plus that Poe as a ‘foundling’ was found inside a Filipino Catholic Church, plus very LIKELY that she has Filipino parents because Poe as Filipino physical features around and around circumstances! ” OSG evidence.
ogle solicitor general evidence. Is that it? OGLE ! ? ! Na loloko na ba ang OSG lawyers? How many ‘citizenship’ cases have been decided by SC based on OGLE evidence? What’s the statistics?
What is the ‘most’ common Filipino feature or features? Squat nose? Brown or pale skin? Kinky hair? Black hair? Thick lips? Bad teeth? Mouse ears? Short or tall? Does Grace Poe L. fall under any of these features?
What Mr. Hillbay is it really that make it OGLING to say GPL is a natural born Filipino?
ogle as in osg likes what he saw, a composite of tight jeans and all, a pair of legs, arms, etc. many indonesians look like filipinos too, malaysians as well, predominantly dark hair, dark eyes and in varying shades of brown skins, even walk like filipinos too. por bida, some of them indonesians and malaysians speak better tagalog than me!
I think, hilbay ought to give more weight to dna evidence, looks and physical features can be so deceptive. in paternity cases, dna trumps all. hairs can be dyed, skin whitened and noses can be made to look western.
dyos na mahabagin, our solgen is a hillbilly. ogling must be fav pastime of his!
evedelgasays
The OSG wouldn’t take that position without instruction from Malacanang. Is the president now for GPL or is it the case of him not knowing what the ExSec is doing. Tsk tsk… That’s no way to run a campaign, much less a nation. The SC might just be singing the same tune but for different reasons!
Yusays
LP is trying not to antagonize MGL supporters. Once MGL IS DQed, they would woo the supportes to shift their support to MAR.
mooniesays
solid supporters ni grace gaya ng iglesia ni kristo, voting in block, where one goes, the rest follow. already inc is fraying, defragmenting, too much in fighting within the rank. not good. people ought to vote according to their conscience, and do what is best for our country not what is best for the manalos.
Wan Linzbachsays
Lighter Side na Lang!
3 mag kaklase, Isko, Ambo at Dolfo, sa elementary school ay nagkataon nag kita kita sa diabetis center ng provincial hospital.
Isko: oh kumusta, ano ginagawa ninyo dito?
Ambo: nagpapagamot ng diabetes., Ikaw? Dolfo, kumusta rin!
Dolfo: nagpapagamot din ng diabetes, malala naraw pero nagtaka naman ako, wala sa lahi namin at alam ninyo magsasaka lamang ako, halos walang ulam makain sa bahay kaya dinaan ko sa maraming kain ng Kanin at kamote sa araw araw. masama pala yun kaya ako nag diabetis. Si Mrs hindi nakatulong dahil walang trabahong permanente kundi makipaglaba.
Isko: halos pareho pala pinagmulan diabetis natin. Wala din sa lahi namin, kaya lang araw araw puro matamis ang kain ko sa maghapon dahil kay Mrs. Nagtrabaho siya sa bakery, araw araw uwi niya tinapay, cake, pastries, yun nagkaroon tuloy ako ng diabetis. Ikaw Isko?
Isko: swerte nga kayo, sa sobrang pagkain kayo nagkaroon ng diabetis. Kami nga halos tinga lang namin ang kinakain sa araw araw at bagoong na naipon ko pag nakaekstra sa bagoongan. Sinisisi ko nga Si Mrs gusto ko ng hiwalayan dahil siya ang maykagagawan ng sakit ko. Walang ng trabaho, wala pang dulot mabuti kundi sex?
Dolfo: swerte ka nga binibigyan ka ng sex ni Mrs. Ako Nawala na sex drive ko sa diabetis. nasa lahi ba ninyo?
Isko: Wala sa lahi namin.
Ambo: Eh bakit Si Mrs ang may sala, gayun puro sex lamang ang handog sa iyo.
Isko: Kasi puro sweets ang habilin sa akin sa magdamag.
Ambo: Akala ko ba wala kayong makain paano ka pa nakaka kain ng maraming candy, sa gabi pa.
Isko: 25 years na kaming mag asawa- Gabi- Gabi na nilikha ng Diyos, may sex o wala bago ako matulog, parati niyang sinasabi: “Love you Sweetheart, Sweet Dreams” Mantakin ninyo yung sweets ko sa magdamag in 25 years.
nettysays
And this is the darker side of things to com, if those leaders of bright minds do not do anything to improved or make anything drastic and next to impossible solutions to the biggest problem of locomotion especially in Manila in 3-4 years time.
I personally witnessed this scenario when I came 5 years ago in the province when the vendors and people are huddled together in the middle of the road. It was very stressful. I think the words of the pope are prophetic that Pinoys should not breed like rabbits.
And while you were sleeping or busy discussing politix, P’Noy inaugurated the Aboitiz coal mine company in Davao.You can search whether the advantages outweigh the disadvantages but I think all the pollution, CO2, Acid rain and other eco- system destruction will heap a lot of troubles for the health of the Filipino People. I would say not all the times the rallyist only wants to make some noise and attention but they are the bells and whistles for some things alarming passed by the gov’t quietly without proper consultation with the citizens.
We’ll see if this new energy will make Mindanao into a promised land for the cheapest and affordable energy for the people or would make zombie sick like communities. There is a price for everything.
He further said that they will not be bringing up the earlier rift between Comelec chairman Andres Bautista and Guanzon regarding the allegedly unauthorized submission of the poll body’s comment with the SC. He said this will only divert the issue.
Right: “nabawasan ang entertainment.” I note that the report in the link gives the impression that all parties are raring to go; and they as well as SC want to resolve this matter with dispatch. Handled properly, I believe that the Supreme Court has a great chance to shine here.
Question is will there be sour-grapping by the losers. I want to be kind: win or lose I hope Grace Poe Llamanzares gain back some measure of equanimity and dignity she used to have. I hope she is prepared to act with dignity and not continue to sour-grape and blame everyone except herself considering that most of the faults are her own self-inflicted ones.
(She needs some rest, too. I observe that the recent pictures show her anxiety has done its damage to her demeanor and looks compared to the fresh looks and comfortable expression of Leni Robredo.)
NHerrerasays
My first paragraph misses this:
I note that the report in the link gives the impression that all parties are raring to go; and they as well as SC want to resolve this matter with dispatch. Handled properly, I believe that the Supreme Court has a great chance to shine here.
(Sorry.)
mooniesays
he, he, he, reading wan linzback at 54, I’m tempted to say, grace probly has adult onset diabetes. too much sweet nothings from chiz. more sweet nothing from bautista’s comelec. she is being overloaded with sweets and carbo. supreme court will deal her treatment and like most treatments and remedies, bitter pills are hard to swallow.
junie garciasays
I hope the SC allows live streaming coverage for this. It will be interesting to hear the questions and answers.
NHerrerasays
DESPERATE REASONS AND MOVES
Of the five major Presidential Candidates, I observe that there are only two with great desperation to be President: Poe and Binay. Of course, the other three — Duterte, Roxas and Santiago — want to be President too, otherwise they would not have filed Certificates of Candidacy but not in such desperation verging on great Panic. I can think only of these reasons:
– In the case of Binay, it is to protect his hide and that of his family from plunder charges if he loses his quest for the Presidency; and of course recoup investments already made.
– In the case of Poe, I can only think of the desperate effort by both her and her financial donors to protect the investments they have already made, forget her so-called running as an Independent — independent from her big financial donor?; that has to be a big laugh. And oh no, not to fight for the rights of foundlings. Unless we are all stupid which she treats us all to be.
canadadrysays
ANG AMBISYOSANG AMERIKANA
Sa dinaranas ngayon ni grace na lumalabas na wala palang integridad, walang dapat sisihin kundi ang sarili nyang ambisyon.
Akala ko talaga noon siyay kasing busilak ng araw, kasing ningning ng bituin, sayang grace, sayang. Hindi bale, buti ka nga makababalik ka pa sa Tate, karamihan sa mga kabayan natin ang hirap kumuha ng green card. Masuwerte ka pa rin. Puwede mong talikuran ang pagiging Pilipino.
Tulungan mo na lang si donald trump.
junie garciasays
Again, another futile attempt to sway voters. To my mind, the Supreme Court should act with dispatch on GPL’s cases pending before it and thus prevent more machinations such as this.
Wan Linzbachsays
PUBLICITY EXTORTION
Grace Poe political ads put pressure on Supreme Court to decide in her favor.
Her ads contain subliminal message to the Filipinos “sa huli pinayagan na rin tumakbo ng Supreme Court”.
If and when SC decides to disqualify Grace, confusion will remain in the minds of classC, D &E voters thinking that this current ad had already allowed Grace to run, then why did the SC disqualify her!
Grace has a pending case in the SC yet her ads refer to the SC subconsciously to confuse the voters.
Classic Contempt of Court.
Supreme Court justices are in a no win situation here.
If they favor Grace, critics would chastise their decision as influenced by the ads.
If SC justices disqualify Poe, voters will be confused due to the ads and vent their ire on the justices for injustice and fickle mind.
Grace Poe forged a pre-emptive move against the SC to put this institution in bad light whatever the outcome is!
Comelec was the tip of the iceberg. Commissioners are now in disarray.
Why is Grace Poe doing this?
To force the Comelec to put Grace name in the ballot since they believe if her name is on the ballot she will either win or damage the chances of Roxas.
According to cyberspy, Grace and her camp have surrendered to the more than greater chance of possibility that she will be disqualied based on Residency issue. Putting the blame on Comelec for removing her name on the ballot needed extreme measures., the new political ads.
Blame Comelec and Supreme Court is Poe’s silent H-bomb!
Kalaharisays
IMHO, it’s a cheap and ineffective political ads probably concocted by her equally ineffective lawyer-adviser and running mate. Citizenship issue is a question of law while residency is a matter of simple arithmetic based on submitted documents.
It’s comparable to former selective Justice Secretary Leila De Lima’s ads that project her as “bane of untouchables” and did her job “without fear or favor”
It’s selective since only 3 opposition senators were charged and incarcerated while 22 other incumbent & former senators on Benhur list (PDI 5/14,2014) were not “touched” due probably to their closeness/party affiliation with PNoy.
Marysays
Those 22 other incumbent & former senators on Benhur list couldn’t have strong evidences or, their total alleged stolen amounts failed to reach the threshold for plunder, less than 50 million, if I’m not mistaken. ok, found this:
Republic Act No. 7080
An Act Defining And Penalizing The Crime of Plunder.
REPUBLIC ACT NO. 7080
[As Amended by Republic Act No. 7659 (The Death Penalty Law)]
AN ACT DEFINING AND PENALIZING THE CRIME OF PLUNDER.
Section 1. Definition of terms. – As used in this Act, the term:
a. “Public Officer” means any person holding any public office in the Government of the Republic of the Philippines by virtue of an appointment, election or contract.
b. “Government” includes the National Government, and any of its subdivisions, agencies or instrumentalities, including government-owned or controlled corporations and their subsidiaries.
c. “Person” includes any natural or juridical person, unless the context indicates otherwise.
d. “Ill-gotten wealth” means any asset, property, business enterprise or material possession of any person within the purview of Section two (2) hereof, acquired by him directly or indirectly through dummies, nominees, agents, subordinates and/or business associates by any combination or series of the following means or similar schemes:
1. Through misappropriation, conversion, misuse, or malversation of public funds or raids on the public treasury;
2. By receiving, directly or indirectly, any commission, gift, share, percentage, kickbacks or any/or entity in connection with any government contract or project or by reason of the office or position of the public officer concerned;
3. By the illegal or fraudulent conveyance or disposition of assets belonging to the National government or any of its subdivisions, agencies or instrumentalities or government-owned or controlled corporations and their subsidiaries;
4. By obtaining, receiving or accepting directly or indirectly any shares of stock, equity or any other form of interest or participation including the promise of future employment in any business enterprise or undertaking;
5. By establishing agricultural, industrial or commercial monopolies or other combinations and/or implementation of decrees and orders intended to benefit particular persons or special interests; or
6. By taking undue advantage of official position, authority, relationship, connection or influence to unjustly enrich himself or themselves at the expense and to the damage and prejudice of the Filipino people and the Republic of the Philippines.
Sec. 2. Definition of the Crime of Plunder; Penalties. – Any public officer who, by himself or in connivance with members of his family, relatives by affinity or consanguinity, business associates, subordinates or other persons, amasses, accumulates or acquires ill-gotten wealth through a combination or series of overt criminal acts as described in Section 1 (d) hereof in the aggregate amount or total value of at least Fifty million pesos (P50,000,000.00) shall be guilty of the crime of plunder and shall be punished by reclusion perpetua to death. Any person who participated with the said public officer in the commission of an offense contributing to the crime of plunder shall likewise be punished for such offense. In the imposition of penalties, the degree of participation and the attendance of mitigating and extenuating circumstances, as provided by the Revised Penal Code, shall be considered by the court. The court shall declare any and all ill-gotten wealth and their interests and other incomes and assets including the properties and shares of stocks derived from the deposit or investment thereof forfeited in favor of the State. [As Amended by Section 12, Republic Act No. 7659 (The Death Penalty Law)] (Click here for old provision of Section 2, of Republic Act No. 7080)
Sec. 3. Competent Court. – Until otherwise provided by law, all prosecutions under this Act shall be within the original jurisdiction of the Sandiganbayan.
Sec. 4. Rule of Evidence. – For purposes of establishing the crime of plunder, it shall not be necessary to prove each and every criminal act done by the accused in furtherance of the scheme or conspiracy to amass, accumulate or acquire ill-gotten wealth, it being sufficient to establish beyond reasonable doubt a pattern of overt or criminal acts indicative of the overall unlawful scheme or conspiracy.
Kalaharisays
Assuming arguendo that the plunder threshold was not met, still they can be charged for graft and grave misconduct knowing the modus operandi of napoles of non-existing suppliers leading to ghost projects. A recent example is the Ombudsman’s dismissal, forfeitures of benefits and perpetual disqualification from holding public office of former of ex-Occidental Mindoro Mayor Jose Villarosa and his treasurer and accountant for grave misconduct, dishonesty and conduct prejudicial to the best interest of the service (Inquirer.net 1/14/16)
Benhur’s lists invariably point to billions of pork barrel allocations for senators that napoles cornered and cooked thru non-existing NGOs and the proceeds (kickbacks) divided among them. It’s a wonder of wonders why De Lima and his NBI investigators stopped short on the 3 unfortunate opposition senators despite the availability of COA reports supported by unassailable documentary evidence.
According to Jinggoy, selective justice is no justice at all
jinggoy must be awfully hurting, gets caught in the dragnet of selective justice. can’t evade it, can’t sidestep, his freedom curtailed, damn justice. jinggoy has access to best lawyers money can buy, still he languishes in jail. not residing in his super mansion in wackwack that cost nearly 120millions to build! big spender jinggoy’s current jail domicile is probly a lot smaller than the bathroom of the kasambahay residing in his mansion. no justice talaga. I would have to shed reptilian tears for jinggoy.
sad, pa rin talaga. money is not what it used to be. can’t buy him justice, cant buy him freedom, cant unselect him from selective justice. malupit ang tadhana. wonder what jinggoy had done to deserve stupid tadhana.
still, the food in jail is probably not bad, the regimen good. and jinggoy is still fit and health and strong, and has not lost weight to the extent that he would fit into one of the duffel bags that bagwoman ruby used to bring to senate. jinggoy cannot make good his escape yet.
junie garciasays
Diyan magaling si GPL, Blame game. Blaming everyone except herself for problems she herself created.
Marmee Cruzsays
Tsk…tsk Grace Poe is such a trapo. Disappointing.
mooniesays
learning by osmosis yan, ex kindergaten teacher is surrounded by trapos and became trapo herself. wala kasing panindigan, naturally, she concedes.
yvonnesays
THE SMIOKING GUN IS STILL SMOKING!
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The decision of the COMELEC Second Division on the disqualification case against Grace Poe contains the following indisputable facts:
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Per her travel log, Poe used her U.S. passports on:
July 20, 2007, July 23, 2007, October 31, 2007, October 5, 2008, April 20, 2009, May 21, 2009, July 31, 2009, August 3, 2009, August 15, 2009, December 27, 2009.
Note that the period July 20, 2007 to July 23, 2007 was a span of 3 days only.
Note also that the period July 31, 2009 to August 3, 2009 was also a span of 3 days only.
Those days clearly were not for travels to the U.S. because a round-trip to the U.S. takes two days already. Those were clearly travels to nearby destinations, such as Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, Taipei, or any nearby foreign destinations.
Grace Poe may make the argument that she had no choice but use her U.S. passport when traveling to or from the U.S. because she was required by law to use it as a U.S. citizen.
But when Grace Poe used her U.S. passport to any destination other than the U.S., when she could have used a Philippine passport, then it is an incontrovertible proof that she considered herself domiciled, and in fact she was domiciled, in the U.S. during those times.
Therefore she could not have been acquired a Philippine domicile for 10-years by the time of this year’s presidential election when she was still U.S. domiciled as recently as 2009, on the basis of her travel records alone.
Rene-Ipilsays
I don’t see much smoke anymore. There seems a conflagration courtesy of Yvonne. And I bet that in the immigration card filled up and submitted by GPL to Hongkong authorities, she indicated her residence in the US. I am almost sure she went to Hongkong for shopping purposes because one goes to Tokyo, Taipei, Bangkok, Singapore or KL to tour the place first and to go shopping second. Besides, Hongkong is the nearest of them all from Manila. But I don’t discount the probability of GPL going to Singapore in a short visit for financial and banking purposes.
NHerrerasays
yvonne: Great. Your previous two posts and the current one NAILS IT TIGHT.
NHerrerasays
Sorry guys and gals but I am dating my age. Why do I keep hearing The Platter’s song — Great Pretender. I’ve got to pay the Ear Specialist a visit.
yvonnesays
You better be @NHerrera.
So you can hear clearly my closing arguments. Don’t miss it.
LOL!
NHerrerasays
:-)
Ancient Marinersays
Equally as old, I keep hearing “American Woman” by The Guess Who.
Dahil hindi bubuksan sa media ang conference ay magbibigay na lamang daw ang Korte Suprema ng advisory sa publiko kaugnay sa mga tatalakayin sa oral arguments.
“Public Advisory,” ayon sa report…
NHerrerasays
I believe the Supreme Court is proceeding with appropriate delicacy and due deliberation and caution so the public will have the appropriate appreciation of the facts and reasons when it finally makes a decision considering all the propaganda being made by Poe and her camp such as a TV add comparing her case with FPJ. Here is an election lawyer take on this ad:
Poe’s latest TV ad may backfire – Fortun, Macalintal (January 13th, 2016 09:22 PM)
Poe and her camp are indeed in Panic Mode. They must be hoping that she can at least retain her Senate Seat.
baycassays
Ayon sa Camp Poe…
He said that at the preliminary conference, they will discuss the issues that will be tackled during the oral arguments and will mark the evidence they will present.
“Ganun talaga ‘yung SC ‘pag nagpapa-oral arguments. Sine-settle nila kung ano ang mga issues na dapat talakayin,” he said.
He said, on Wednesday, the SC has already gave them the proposed issues the justices wanted to hear in the oral arguments.
Garcia said that at the preliminary conference, they will propose other issues they want to include.
“Ang purpose talaga niyan ay to expedite everything and to ensure an orderly conduct of the hearing come January 19,” he said.
Written by Tribune Wires Monday, 11 January 2016 00:00 font size decrease font size increase font size Print 40 comments
US ACKNOWLEDGEMENT obtained ONLY IN 2012
Independent presidential candidate Sen. Grace Poe hid the fact that she used her US passport as late as 2011 based on US consulate documents, contrary to her previous affidavits claiming that she used it for the last time on March 9, 2010.
Documents obtained by the Daily Tribune showed Poe herself admitted that she used her US passport when she travelled to the United States in September 2011 and finally in 2012 to secure documents surrendering her US nationality.
“I used my US passport,” Poe wrote as a reply to the query on what passport she used to travel to the United States in a questionnaire document called Information for the Possible Loss of US Citizenship which is attached with Poe’s Certificate of Loss of Nationality of the US (CLN) dated July 12, 2011. Poe, who became a naturalized US citizen in 2001, also admitted that she wasn’t able to perform the act of officially renouncing her American status before an authorized US officer during her stint as Movie Television Review and Classification Board (MTRCB) chairman.
Ancient Marinersays
If true, this must be the final nail in the coffin. Why am I smiling?
mooniesays
result of grace’s dna test is supposed to be available on 17th of jan 2016. if negative, she might as well bury herself to be exhumed later, he, he, he. bury herself to hide from too much shame, no cell phone and internet connection, worms her only visitors. in sympathy, chiz may also want to bury himself, leaving heart free to marry neil llamanzares, he, he, he.
but no, grace will go back to america, her preferred home sweet home.
Gagamitin ang US passport kung di puwede ang Philippine passport.
Gagamitin ang international laws kung di puwede ang Philippine laws.
Gagamitin ang anumang kumbiniyente…kung saan makalulusot…
baycassays
@Mary,
In the article you linked…
Poe, who became a naturalized US citizen in 2001, also admitted that she wasn’t able to perform the act of officially renouncing her American status before an authorized US officer during her stint as Movie Television Review and Classification Board (MTRCB) chairman.
– tribunedotnet
The admission belies her claim that she already followed the specific provision of law she invoked…as explained here:
The specific provision as reminded by @yvonne before, that is, if truly applicable on her as a foundling…
3. Those appointed to any public office shall subscribe and swear to an oath of allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines and its duly constituted authorities prior to their assumption of office: Provided, That they renounce their oath of allegiance to the country where they took that oath;
‘Yan ay isa na namang BUTAS na siya rin ang may kagagawan…
EKSENA SA SCHOOL – Teacher– Okey class gumawa ng talambuhay ng ating Presidente.
Student – eto ang isinulat: (sa isip ng bata very easy)
Talambuhay ng Presidente ng Pilipinas
Ma.Grace Poe Llmanzarez – ipinanganak Sept. 1968 sa Ilo-Ilo Phil.
Mga magulang (sa dugo)
Nanay……………………….di pa alam (unknown)
Tatay ………………………..di pa rin alam (still unknown)
Kapatid ……………………..syempre wala
Lolo Lola……………………….lalong wala
Pagdaan at nakalipas ang panahon lumaki ang batang student at dahil nga nakapag-aral at may edad na at nag-iisip na SOMETHING was WRONG.
raissasays
Meron siyang 2 kapatid.
chit navarrosays
2 kapatid sa adopted parents niya?
kasi kung sa niisip nating tatay niya, hindi lang dalawa –
3 sa recognized”royal” family
at ilan pa sa labas, nakatulad niya?
junie garciasays
She’ll do whatever is convenient for her. I wonder what her principles are.
Rene-Ipilsays
“‘I used US passport,’ Poe admits in 2011”
“Used” was used as past tense. Meaning that it could be 2006 to 2010 or before July 12, 2011 when her CLN was issued. And I understand GPL had undergone the process in the US embassy in Manila – not in US. BI records show that she departed from the Philippines on December 27, 2009 using US Passport.
If it is true that she came back using US passport on March 9, 2010, that date would be the last time GPL used her US passport. Because no travel record shows that GPL used her US passport after she renounced her US citizenship on October 20, 2010.
Ancient Marinersays
Of course, the answer must be in the past tense.
It very much depends on the exact wording of the question which is being answered. Conveniently (for the Tribune) they have generalized in quoting the formal question.
Perhaps somebody can provide the wording of the question GPL was answering.
Notwithstanding your access to BI records, I think the exact question and the exact answer is the important issue.
Ancient Marinersays
A blank of the form to which we refer. It seems @Rene-Ipil that you are correct. (Again)
It would be interesting to see the completed document.
yvonnesays
I have a copy of the completed document answered by Grace Poe in her own signature. Anyone who wants a copy just email me.
yvonnesays
I meant, written in her own handwriting.
Ancient Marinersays
I don’t have your email address. Is it public knowledge? If so please provide.
noemisays
I hope you have given the Comelec abd SC a copy of this document.
chit navarrosays
Hi Yvonne, can you please e-mail the docs you have?
And also the complete articles you have posted on GPL?
I am trying to compile the articles but it seems I am missing one installment..
Happy New Year…. looking forward to a RoRo 2016!!!
yvonnesays
Hi Chit,
Happy New Year, too. I’ll be happy to email you the docs I have but it will be after the week-end. My spouse and I are going out of town tonight up to the snow mountains (it’s a 3-day holiday week-end for him.)
Ancient Marinersays
Sadly, if the form DS-4079 is the document is using as a basis for their report then they (the Tribune) are bullshitting.
I can find no need or space for GPL to list her comings and goings to the US on this questionaire and I am sure she would not volunteer the information.
Perhaps they are referring to another questionaire. They did not state which document was being examined or give the question which she is purported to have answered.
Come on the Tribune, give us some substantiation.
I make the above comments as one who is very anti-GPL but truth and fairness must prevail. (Despite all of GPL’s skulduggery)
Kalaharisays
Sen. Johnny Enrile is back in action, running berserk and spewing fire – at PNoy
In an interview with Radyo Inquirer 990AM, Enrile said, “There was a failure of leadership in Mamasapano, there was a failure of leadership in that fiasco in Luneta, It’s always a failure of leadership. There was a failure of leadership in Yolanda.”
He added: I’m not about to be an adviser to a president but I would suggest to him to reexamine himself, and don’t be paranoid on imputing any motive against other people. Reflect on yourself and assert your leadership.” (Inquirer.net 1/13/16 5:26pm)
Fight Tanda. Now, we have a real opposition – but for how long?
Kalaharisays
It was Enrile’s “personal knowledge” and supposed “new evidence” that prompted the re-opening of a senate probe into a controversial police operation one year later, but Sen. Enrile seems to have zoomed in one issue: President Benigno Aquino III’s involvement in it.
In the same interview, Enrile added “wala akong nalalaman na galaw ng gobyerno upang sagipin sila, at ano ba ang ginawa ng Presidente? Ano ba ang kanyang kinalaman diyan? Siya ang puno ng lahat ng pangyayari dito eh, hawak niya ang estado, he’s the head of the state, head of the government, he’s the chief executive, he’s the top policeman of the country, he’s the commander in chief of the armed forces, napakalawak ng kapangyarihan niya. Ano bang ginawa niya na hindi sinagip yung mga tao para kung may mamatay man ay hindi ganon kalaki?”
NHerrerasays
SETTING THE STAGE FOR JANUARY 19 ORAL ARGUMENTS
SC sets preliminary conference on Poe’s DQ case on Thursday
1. SC orders preliminary conference Thursday Jan 14 Thursday at 10:30 pm with Comelec, Poe, petitioners and their lawyers before the scheduled Oral Argument on January 19.
2. The 2 Comelec cases against Poe were ordered consolidated by SC.
3. Meantime, David’s petition against SET’s decision which was earlier scheduled also for Oral Argument on January 19 has been reset — to be announced later.
NHerrerasays
In view of the above orders of the SC, I can see SC’s moves proceed as follows taking due consideration of Comelec’s time constraints:
1. Tackle Residency requirement first which to my non-lawyer mind seems easier to handle.
1.1 If Residency does not pass, CANCEL the COC for the Presidency; Comelec can then proceed with its work.
1.2 If Residency does not pass, SC STILL HAS to tackle the NBFC requirement.
1.2.1 If NBFC passes, Poe REMAINS as a Senator.
1.2.2 If NBFC does not pass, Poe is DISQUALIFIED as Senator.
2. If Residency passes, tackle the NBFC requirement.
2.1 If NBFC passes, COC for President is VALIDATED and Poe REMAINS as Senator.
2,2 If NBFC does not pass, COC is CANCELLED and Poe is DISQUALIFIED as Senator.
Thanks. That completes the picture, including possible journey to Palace if both Residency and NBFC pass. A picture indeed speaks a thousand words.
Lower emoticon — mouth of smiley curved upward?
NHerrerasays
Unless you mean that even with the palace she may have problems governing, then the emoticon is ok.
Edgar Loressays
*******
He he. Just my little joke. Most of the flowchart is from the view of the Poe camp – except for the lower emoticon… which is from your view — the view of the non-Poe camp.
*****
NHerrerasays
:-)
baycassays
@NHerrera,
I noticed @springwoodman’s bottom emoticon too.
:-D
leonasays
. . . to complete the ‘story’ . . . of NHerrera –
GPL is not a ‘natural born Filipino citizen’ . . . . cannot be qualified as senator per SC ruling.
She cannot be qualified as candidate for P also per SC ruling.
The Senate, in the end, will have the bitter pill to swallow and be the one to remove GPL as a senator.
‘Story of GPL now complete.’ – > > > >
NHerrerasays
If the events do follow the route(s) of SC ruling that GPL does not pass the NBFC requirement, your note does complete the picture — the Senate will have to take the bitter pill they earlier refused to swallow.
:)
Marysays
Hi, raissa
My latest comment is under moderation.
It has just one link, is it because it’s quite long?
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yvonne says
DID GRACE POE EVADE PAYMENT OF PHILIPPINE TAXES?
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In August, 2000, Fernando Poe, Jr. together with wife Susan Roces, Mary Grace Poe Llamanzares, Joseph Martin Sonora, and Jeffrey Stevens Sonora formed the 226 Wilson Development Corporation with business address at 23 Lincoln St, Greenhills, San Juan.
The family-owned business was registered with the SEC on March 2001 with a capitalization of P170 million. It was involved in developing, selling, and leasing real estate properties. As of December 31, 2002 its total assets was P77.8 million.
Although Grace Poe was involved in the business starting in 2000, her record shows that she only acquired her Philippine TIN in 7/22/2005.
Does it mean she did not pay any taxes for income she earned from the family-owned business?
yvonne says
A person can only have one TIN, and it is illegal for anyone to have more than one TIN. Grace Poe could not have paid any Philippine taxes prior to her acquisition of TIN in 2005.
curveball says
Ano na ang nangyari dito? Punta (palusot) sa kanan (nagbayad ng tax), hulog sa kanal kasi sabi mo nga @Yvonne, wala pa sya TIN ng 2000. Punta (Palusot) sa kaliwa (di nabayad ng tax), hulog din sa kanal. Kasi tax evasion naman sya.
yvonne says
Nuong 2005 lamang nag-apply at nakakuha ng TIN si Grace Poe.
Pero kasama na siya sa negosyo noon pang 2000.
Ang ibig sabihin nito ay hindi siya nagbabayad ng tax noung panahon na wala pa siyang TIN.
kalakala says
more or less ay hindi na din declare sa kanyang SALN for the year 2001 up to may be 20013. talagang maraming butas na dapat tapalan.
yvonne says
Required lang siyang magdeclare ng SALN simula nuong panahon na nasa government service na siya.
I don’t know if required na siyang magdeclare ng SALN nang maging Chair siya ng MTRCB.
junie garcia says
Upon joining government, one needs to file a SALN. He/she has to do this every year he’s in the government service and on the year he/she leaves the service.
kalakala says
hindi lang sya na corner, double corner ang nagyayari sa kay mgl.
wala na syang rason pa. tax evasion, lack of 10 years residency, lahat na mga sagot kasinungalinan dahil hindi na oobra ang honest mistake
yvonne says
Meron pa akong ilalabas, paki-abangan mo.
:-)
kalakala says
ang akala ng marami ay nabawasan or mawawala na ang mga side issues dahil pinag bawalan na ng sc na mag-ingay ang camp poe. ang galing talaga ng iyong timing @yvonne.
kalakala says
@yvonne promise aabangan ko. bye for now at susunduin ko muna ang aking anak sa sch. but, excited to be back soon ;-D
junie garcia says
Does anyone have the smoking gun on Binay? With all attention focused on GPL, his misdeeds have been forgotten and he’s back on top of the surveys again.
parengtony says
Base sa mga detalyeng nakalaad dito, it is presumptuous to say “she did not pay any taxes for income she earned from the family-owned business?” as this responsibility lies with the corporation and not with the individual shareholders.
yvonne says
A corporation pays taxes for its corporate income.
And when it pays salaries, dividends, allowances, honorarium, etc., to its officers and employees those income become taxable to the individuals.
The corporation may provide the service of filing for the individual’s taxes but they are done separately and in the individual’s TIN.
I’m even giving Grace Poe the benefit of the doubt – I phrased the title of my post with a question mark.
parengtony says
Kanya nga, as has pointed out here, shareholders do not pay income taxes on corporate income. However, based only on these two premises –
1.that Grace Poe was a shareholder of a corporation since 2000;
2. that Grace Poe acquired her TIN in 2006 –
you insinuate that ” GRACE POE EVADE(D) PAYMENT OF PHILIPPINE TAXES?”
raissa says
You have a point.
raissa says
Can you check, though, whether it declared dividends.
The income would come from that.
And what GPL’s position was in the corporation?
yvonne says
I tried to obtain this information before without success. Online public access to the SEC records is severely limited (I remember you wrote about this same problem before.)
The SEC online search does not even show a 226 Wilson Development Corporation. I tried a “blind” search and it returned two companies with similar names, but other than their names no other information can be accessed online about those companies. I don’t know if it is for the reason that they are not publicly-held companies.
Being a company-owned business, Grace Poe could have still actively participated in the business in an administrative function even while she was in the U.S. Many companies with officers and employees spread all over different locations operate this way using the internet. So she could have still derived an income from the business even if it did not pay dividends.
Rene-Ipil says
Yes. GPL did evade payment of Philippine taxes from 2005 to 2009. That she has been domiciled in the Philippines since 2005 is a declaration against interest which constitutes strong evidence against the declarant.
GPL is either guilty of non-payment of Philippine tax by evading payment of travel tax or of perjury by falsely claiming under oath that she had been a permanent resident of the Philippines since 2005. I am presently researching which offense carries a lesser jail penalty.
NHerrera says
That is usually the result of a lie or let us say “palusot.” You claim something now which is inconsistent with documented items you yourself did, and so magkakapatong ang kailangang palusot.
It is said for example that a normal person may not have 100% recall or memory of a crime he witnessed, but if he is not lying he will be consistent in the main no matter what questions are posed or in whatever form. And good judges are able to discern this. In fact, it is said that if a witness is apparently very very consistent, there is probably something wrong and the answers of the witness may in fact be rehearsed and hiding something.
yvonne says
I have one more coming up on this subject.
kalakala says
basing on @yvonne’s latest revelation, ito ba ay isa sa mga dahilan kung bakit ang kanyang kampo ay masigasig para manalo sya bilang presidente? working hard. very, very hard letting no stone unturned – even the stones at the cemetery.
baycas says
Exhuming arguendo,
Some believe that it is so
In Camp Poe
kalakala says
he he [email protected] baycas…digging arguments in camp poe
arguendo- is a Latin legal term meaning for the sake of argument (from wiki)
and camp poe is located at CAMPOE SANTO
baycas says
‘Digging dirt’ is the forte of a ‘sleuth’ like @yvonne…
And, as proven before, her work may not center only on a particular candidate as I believe she also has the goods on other electoral hopefuls.
The pieces of documentary evidence do not lie. Tthis must be emphasized.
kalakala says
sana ma publish sa newspapers itong latest “dirt” para malaman na din ng mga mamamayan at mabasa naman natin ang rebuttal ng camp poe. anyway pinatahimik na sila ng sc. dito naman sila ngayon mag depensa. check mate na naman!
yvonne says
Ah, but my forte is analyzing the thermodynamic properties of dual-phase hydrocarbon fractions.
Other than that, I’m just your typical CPMer just like the rest of us.
kalakala says
pag hindi itong 226 Wilson Development Corporation naka lagay sa SALN ni mgl ano ang ibig nyang sabihin nito/or ano naman ang kanyang palusot?
netty says
Eh di honest mistake, or sabi nga ni Pookyaw na-misplaced lang, uhhmmm
This is my song for you referring to GPL @Kalakala fr the king of Rock and Roll,,,,
“(You’re The) Devil In Disguise”
You look like an angel
Walk like an angel
Talk like an angel
But I got wise
You’re the devil in disguise
Oh yes you are
The devil in disguise
You fooled me with your kisses
You cheated and you schemed
Heaven knows how you lied to me
You’re not the way you seemed
You look like an angel
Walk like an angel
Talk like an angel
But I got wise
yvonne says
In her 2014 SALN, Grace Poe declared P7,375,000 worth of inherited stocks in 226 Wilson Development Corporation.
What is unclear is if she declared, in her SALN for earlier years, any original ownership of stocks acquired when the corporation was first organized in 2000. And equally interesting is if she ever paid taxes for any income derived from the business.
Vhin AB says
Good job Yvonne
balayang says
Dig na lang ng dig; maraming misterio sa CamPOE santo . Isunod sa excavation ang boy scout ng makiling ✄ ✍
yvonne says
I have a very interesting post about the Boy Scouts of Mt. Makiling ;-) just waiting for the right timing for posting.
Sup says
Now? To high now in the polls..maybe his heart could not handle your post….:-)
chit navarro says
Did she pay inheritance tax on those stocks?
Inherited stocks is different from stocks distributed to stockholders due to realignment of stockholders. Inherited stocks meansthis was given as part of inheritance so it should be subject to inheritance tax.
Kalahari says
Binay, Escudero lead 2016 race – SWS poll
Vp binay and chiz escudero would be the winning tandem if elections were held in early January, according to results of the latest SWS pre-election survey released early today, January 15.
Binay – 31% from 26% in December
P o e – 24% from 26%
M a r – 21% from 22%
Du30 – remained at 20%
Chiz – 28% from 30%
Mrcos 25% from 19%
Leni – 17% from 19%
Alan – 14% from 17%
The poll was conducted using face-to-face interviews of 1200 validated voters, 300 each in MM, balance of Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao
Link: http://www.rappler.com/nation/politics/elections/2016/119113-binay-escudero-lead-2016-poll-sws
junie garcia says
If the trend continues, this will not be good for the country.
Rolly says
Pretty sure, Roxas will be elected this 2016.
With Marcos’ billions, Leni’s chances hang in the balance. People should unite behind Leni to prevent the Junior Marcos coming into the fore.
No Marcos should be allowed back to power, not even in the doorstep…never again in a million years.
chit navarro says
Pretty sure and definite, very definite – Roxas & Robredo leads our country come June, 2016…. or is it July?
Kailan pa nagkaroon ng eleksiyon sa Pilipinas na hindi nanalo ang kandidato ng incumbent President? Lalong-lalo na at palaging tinitira si Pres. Aquino na ikukulong siya pagbaba niya ng puwesto?
Do your math – who has the power and the funds? and best of all,
WHOSE CANDIDATES ARE THE BEST-QUALIFIED?
sykes says
@Rolly
pretty sure ka dyan…kailangan mong lumaklak ng isang drum ng realidad.
numbet 1 si Roxas pagdating sa campaign spending pero look what happened. nabawasan pa numbers nya…lol
face it pipol. si Binay ang next president natin.
and we have to thank Aquino, Abaya, Abad, the Liberal Party and yes, the Yellowtards for that.
digital na karma ngayon kaya yan ang resulta ng “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”
baboyin ba naman mga gov’t institutions in order to take down the one person who could’ve beaten Binay…lol
para sa masa, ramdam nila na ang Daang Matuwid, pa-impyerno pala salamat sa trapik, palpak na MRT at spectacular failures sa Yolanda at Mamasapano. ?
as i’ve said before, Mar is Gibo 2.0
Gibo got flak for Ondoy (yep, yung ginagamit ni Mar sa tv ad nya) and Maguindanao massacre.
Roxas for Yolanda and Mamasapano (and MRT)
tanggapin na lang kahit mahirap na si Jejemon Binay ang next president natin. ??
moonie says
I dont care what survey say, pasaway ako! I’ll vote for tambalang roxas and robredo. roxas for president and robredo for vice president. it’s good to be pasaway, loved being one and answering only to my conscience, not to surveys.
I dont trust faceless people participating in surveys, pretending to know what I think, and who I vote.
moonie says
election time is best time for people to hit back at surveys. specially the millions that wanted to be part of surveys but not given chance, wanted to participate but denied participation. at election time, the millions who were ignored will settle the score and thrash the surveys.
Sup says
SWS..Binay…Vice……Bong bong is coming..( Binay maybe not finish the term…)
Yeah…let’s party again..soon good times are back!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrK5x9AVQ0Q
:-(
Kalahari says
A binay-marcos win will be calamitous to the country due to their trademarks as accomplished MAGNA,
The country’s reputation in the community of nations may be downgraded to a country of ill-repute and the rank-and-file of the bureaucracy may follow what the top leaders are doing – similar to the gma regime, and maybe worst.
Let’s work harder through our contacts in the social media to reverse the trend and save our country towards the unknown/brink of hell
leona says
‘In a comment on David’s petition, the OSG has submitted its position on the citizenship issue and argued that the SET was correct in ruling that Poe is a natural-born citizen based on evidence like her physical features and circumstances surrounding her abandonment and discovery.’
“Physical features as EVIDENCE that one, like Grace Poe is, very LIKELY a natural born Filipino citizen, plus that Poe as a ‘foundling’ was found inside a Filipino Catholic Church, plus very LIKELY that she has Filipino parents because Poe as Filipino physical features around and around circumstances! ” OSG evidence.
ogle solicitor general evidence. Is that it? OGLE ! ? ! Na loloko na ba ang OSG lawyers? How many ‘citizenship’ cases have been decided by SC based on OGLE evidence? What’s the statistics?
What is the ‘most’ common Filipino feature or features? Squat nose? Brown or pale skin? Kinky hair? Black hair? Thick lips? Bad teeth? Mouse ears? Short or tall? Does Grace Poe L. fall under any of these features?
What Mr. Hillbay is it really that make it OGLING to say GPL is a natural born Filipino?
Ogle ‘o Ogle na lang. SC justices listening. . . tsk tsk
moonie says
ogle as in osg likes what he saw, a composite of tight jeans and all, a pair of legs, arms, etc. many indonesians look like filipinos too, malaysians as well, predominantly dark hair, dark eyes and in varying shades of brown skins, even walk like filipinos too. por bida, some of them indonesians and malaysians speak better tagalog than me!
I think, hilbay ought to give more weight to dna evidence, looks and physical features can be so deceptive. in paternity cases, dna trumps all. hairs can be dyed, skin whitened and noses can be made to look western.
dyos na mahabagin, our solgen is a hillbilly. ogling must be fav pastime of his!
evedelga says
The OSG wouldn’t take that position without instruction from Malacanang. Is the president now for GPL or is it the case of him not knowing what the ExSec is doing. Tsk tsk… That’s no way to run a campaign, much less a nation. The SC might just be singing the same tune but for different reasons!
Yu says
LP is trying not to antagonize MGL supporters. Once MGL IS DQed, they would woo the supportes to shift their support to MAR.
moonie says
solid supporters ni grace gaya ng iglesia ni kristo, voting in block, where one goes, the rest follow. already inc is fraying, defragmenting, too much in fighting within the rank. not good. people ought to vote according to their conscience, and do what is best for our country not what is best for the manalos.
Wan Linzbach says
Lighter Side na Lang!
3 mag kaklase, Isko, Ambo at Dolfo, sa elementary school ay nagkataon nag kita kita sa diabetis center ng provincial hospital.
Isko: oh kumusta, ano ginagawa ninyo dito?
Ambo: nagpapagamot ng diabetes., Ikaw? Dolfo, kumusta rin!
Dolfo: nagpapagamot din ng diabetes, malala naraw pero nagtaka naman ako, wala sa lahi namin at alam ninyo magsasaka lamang ako, halos walang ulam makain sa bahay kaya dinaan ko sa maraming kain ng Kanin at kamote sa araw araw. masama pala yun kaya ako nag diabetis. Si Mrs hindi nakatulong dahil walang trabahong permanente kundi makipaglaba.
Isko: halos pareho pala pinagmulan diabetis natin. Wala din sa lahi namin, kaya lang araw araw puro matamis ang kain ko sa maghapon dahil kay Mrs. Nagtrabaho siya sa bakery, araw araw uwi niya tinapay, cake, pastries, yun nagkaroon tuloy ako ng diabetis. Ikaw Isko?
Isko: swerte nga kayo, sa sobrang pagkain kayo nagkaroon ng diabetis. Kami nga halos tinga lang namin ang kinakain sa araw araw at bagoong na naipon ko pag nakaekstra sa bagoongan. Sinisisi ko nga Si Mrs gusto ko ng hiwalayan dahil siya ang maykagagawan ng sakit ko. Walang ng trabaho, wala pang dulot mabuti kundi sex?
Dolfo: swerte ka nga binibigyan ka ng sex ni Mrs. Ako Nawala na sex drive ko sa diabetis. nasa lahi ba ninyo?
Isko: Wala sa lahi namin.
Ambo: Eh bakit Si Mrs ang may sala, gayun puro sex lamang ang handog sa iyo.
Isko: Kasi puro sweets ang habilin sa akin sa magdamag.
Ambo: Akala ko ba wala kayong makain paano ka pa nakaka kain ng maraming candy, sa gabi pa.
Isko: 25 years na kaming mag asawa- Gabi- Gabi na nilikha ng Diyos, may sex o wala bago ako matulog, parati niyang sinasabi: “Love you Sweetheart, Sweet Dreams” Mantakin ninyo yung sweets ko sa magdamag in 25 years.
netty says
And this is the darker side of things to com, if those leaders of bright minds do not do anything to improved or make anything drastic and next to impossible solutions to the biggest problem of locomotion especially in Manila in 3-4 years time.
I personally witnessed this scenario when I came 5 years ago in the province when the vendors and people are huddled together in the middle of the road. It was very stressful. I think the words of the pope are prophetic that Pinoys should not breed like rabbits.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/manila-traffic-renders/2426660.html
And while you were sleeping or busy discussing politix, P’Noy inaugurated the Aboitiz coal mine company in Davao.You can search whether the advantages outweigh the disadvantages but I think all the pollution, CO2, Acid rain and other eco- system destruction will heap a lot of troubles for the health of the Filipino People. I would say not all the times the rallyist only wants to make some noise and attention but they are the bells and whistles for some things alarming passed by the gov’t quietly without proper consultation with the citizens.
We’ll see if this new energy will make Mindanao into a promised land for the cheapest and affordable energy for the people or would make zombie sick like communities. There is a price for everything.
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/122441/aquino-aboitiz-lead-inauguration-of-300-mw-davao-baseload-power-plant
baycas says
Naku…
Sayang wala nang sidelight…
Nabawasan ng entertainment…
NHerrera says
Right: “nabawasan ang entertainment.” I note that the report in the link gives the impression that all parties are raring to go; and they as well as SC want to resolve this matter with dispatch. Handled properly, I believe that the Supreme Court has a great chance to shine here.
Question is will there be sour-grapping by the losers. I want to be kind: win or lose I hope Grace Poe Llamanzares gain back some measure of equanimity and dignity she used to have. I hope she is prepared to act with dignity and not continue to sour-grape and blame everyone except herself considering that most of the faults are her own self-inflicted ones.
(She needs some rest, too. I observe that the recent pictures show her anxiety has done its damage to her demeanor and looks compared to the fresh looks and comfortable expression of Leni Robredo.)
NHerrera says
My first paragraph misses this:
I note that the report in the link gives the impression that all parties are raring to go; and they as well as SC want to resolve this matter with dispatch. Handled properly, I believe that the Supreme Court has a great chance to shine here.
(Sorry.)
moonie says
he, he, he, reading wan linzback at 54, I’m tempted to say, grace probly has adult onset diabetes. too much sweet nothings from chiz. more sweet nothing from bautista’s comelec. she is being overloaded with sweets and carbo. supreme court will deal her treatment and like most treatments and remedies, bitter pills are hard to swallow.
junie garcia says
I hope the SC allows live streaming coverage for this. It will be interesting to hear the questions and answers.
NHerrera says
DESPERATE REASONS AND MOVES
Of the five major Presidential Candidates, I observe that there are only two with great desperation to be President: Poe and Binay. Of course, the other three — Duterte, Roxas and Santiago — want to be President too, otherwise they would not have filed Certificates of Candidacy but not in such desperation verging on great Panic. I can think only of these reasons:
– In the case of Binay, it is to protect his hide and that of his family from plunder charges if he loses his quest for the Presidency; and of course recoup investments already made.
– In the case of Poe, I can only think of the desperate effort by both her and her financial donors to protect the investments they have already made, forget her so-called running as an Independent — independent from her big financial donor?; that has to be a big laugh. And oh no, not to fight for the rights of foundlings. Unless we are all stupid which she treats us all to be.
canadadry says
ANG AMBISYOSANG AMERIKANA
Sa dinaranas ngayon ni grace na lumalabas na wala palang integridad, walang dapat sisihin kundi ang sarili nyang ambisyon.
Akala ko talaga noon siyay kasing busilak ng araw, kasing ningning ng bituin, sayang grace, sayang. Hindi bale, buti ka nga makababalik ka pa sa Tate, karamihan sa mga kabayan natin ang hirap kumuha ng green card. Masuwerte ka pa rin. Puwede mong talikuran ang pagiging Pilipino.
Tulungan mo na lang si donald trump.
junie garcia says
Again, another futile attempt to sway voters. To my mind, the Supreme Court should act with dispatch on GPL’s cases pending before it and thus prevent more machinations such as this.
Wan Linzbach says
PUBLICITY EXTORTION
Grace Poe political ads put pressure on Supreme Court to decide in her favor.
Her ads contain subliminal message to the Filipinos “sa huli pinayagan na rin tumakbo ng Supreme Court”.
If and when SC decides to disqualify Grace, confusion will remain in the minds of classC, D &E voters thinking that this current ad had already allowed Grace to run, then why did the SC disqualify her!
Grace has a pending case in the SC yet her ads refer to the SC subconsciously to confuse the voters.
Classic Contempt of Court.
Supreme Court justices are in a no win situation here.
If they favor Grace, critics would chastise their decision as influenced by the ads.
If SC justices disqualify Poe, voters will be confused due to the ads and vent their ire on the justices for injustice and fickle mind.
Grace Poe forged a pre-emptive move against the SC to put this institution in bad light whatever the outcome is!
Comelec was the tip of the iceberg. Commissioners are now in disarray.
Why is Grace Poe doing this?
To force the Comelec to put Grace name in the ballot since they believe if her name is on the ballot she will either win or damage the chances of Roxas.
According to cyberspy, Grace and her camp have surrendered to the more than greater chance of possibility that she will be disqualied based on Residency issue. Putting the blame on Comelec for removing her name on the ballot needed extreme measures., the new political ads.
Blame Comelec and Supreme Court is Poe’s silent H-bomb!
Kalahari says
IMHO, it’s a cheap and ineffective political ads probably concocted by her equally ineffective lawyer-adviser and running mate. Citizenship issue is a question of law while residency is a matter of simple arithmetic based on submitted documents.
It’s comparable to former selective Justice Secretary Leila De Lima’s ads that project her as “bane of untouchables” and did her job “without fear or favor”
It’s selective since only 3 opposition senators were charged and incarcerated while 22 other incumbent & former senators on Benhur list (PDI 5/14,2014) were not “touched” due probably to their closeness/party affiliation with PNoy.
Mary says
Those 22 other incumbent & former senators on Benhur list couldn’t have strong evidences or, their total alleged stolen amounts failed to reach the threshold for plunder, less than 50 million, if I’m not mistaken. ok, found this:
Republic Act No. 7080
An Act Defining And Penalizing The Crime of Plunder.
REPUBLIC ACT NO. 7080
[As Amended by Republic Act No. 7659 (The Death Penalty Law)]
AN ACT DEFINING AND PENALIZING THE CRIME OF PLUNDER.
Section 1. Definition of terms. – As used in this Act, the term:
a. “Public Officer” means any person holding any public office in the Government of the Republic of the Philippines by virtue of an appointment, election or contract.
b. “Government” includes the National Government, and any of its subdivisions, agencies or instrumentalities, including government-owned or controlled corporations and their subsidiaries.
c. “Person” includes any natural or juridical person, unless the context indicates otherwise.
d. “Ill-gotten wealth” means any asset, property, business enterprise or material possession of any person within the purview of Section two (2) hereof, acquired by him directly or indirectly through dummies, nominees, agents, subordinates and/or business associates by any combination or series of the following means or similar schemes:
1. Through misappropriation, conversion, misuse, or malversation of public funds or raids on the public treasury;
2. By receiving, directly or indirectly, any commission, gift, share, percentage, kickbacks or any/or entity in connection with any government contract or project or by reason of the office or position of the public officer concerned;
3. By the illegal or fraudulent conveyance or disposition of assets belonging to the National government or any of its subdivisions, agencies or instrumentalities or government-owned or controlled corporations and their subsidiaries;
4. By obtaining, receiving or accepting directly or indirectly any shares of stock, equity or any other form of interest or participation including the promise of future employment in any business enterprise or undertaking;
5. By establishing agricultural, industrial or commercial monopolies or other combinations and/or implementation of decrees and orders intended to benefit particular persons or special interests; or
6. By taking undue advantage of official position, authority, relationship, connection or influence to unjustly enrich himself or themselves at the expense and to the damage and prejudice of the Filipino people and the Republic of the Philippines.
Sec. 2. Definition of the Crime of Plunder; Penalties. – Any public officer who, by himself or in connivance with members of his family, relatives by affinity or consanguinity, business associates, subordinates or other persons, amasses, accumulates or acquires ill-gotten wealth through a combination or series of overt criminal acts as described in Section 1 (d) hereof in the aggregate amount or total value of at least Fifty million pesos (P50,000,000.00) shall be guilty of the crime of plunder and shall be punished by reclusion perpetua to death. Any person who participated with the said public officer in the commission of an offense contributing to the crime of plunder shall likewise be punished for such offense. In the imposition of penalties, the degree of participation and the attendance of mitigating and extenuating circumstances, as provided by the Revised Penal Code, shall be considered by the court. The court shall declare any and all ill-gotten wealth and their interests and other incomes and assets including the properties and shares of stocks derived from the deposit or investment thereof forfeited in favor of the State. [As Amended by Section 12, Republic Act No. 7659 (The Death Penalty Law)] (Click here for old provision of Section 2, of Republic Act No. 7080)
Sec. 3. Competent Court. – Until otherwise provided by law, all prosecutions under this Act shall be within the original jurisdiction of the Sandiganbayan.
Sec. 4. Rule of Evidence. – For purposes of establishing the crime of plunder, it shall not be necessary to prove each and every criminal act done by the accused in furtherance of the scheme or conspiracy to amass, accumulate or acquire ill-gotten wealth, it being sufficient to establish beyond reasonable doubt a pattern of overt or criminal acts indicative of the overall unlawful scheme or conspiracy.
Kalahari says
Assuming arguendo that the plunder threshold was not met, still they can be charged for graft and grave misconduct knowing the modus operandi of napoles of non-existing suppliers leading to ghost projects. A recent example is the Ombudsman’s dismissal, forfeitures of benefits and perpetual disqualification from holding public office of former of ex-Occidental Mindoro Mayor Jose Villarosa and his treasurer and accountant for grave misconduct, dishonesty and conduct prejudicial to the best interest of the service (Inquirer.net 1/14/16)
Benhur’s lists invariably point to billions of pork barrel allocations for senators that napoles cornered and cooked thru non-existing NGOs and the proceeds (kickbacks) divided among them. It’s a wonder of wonders why De Lima and his NBI investigators stopped short on the 3 unfortunate opposition senators despite the availability of COA reports supported by unassailable documentary evidence.
According to Jinggoy, selective justice is no justice at all
Kalahari says
Link: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/602031/25-senators-on-luy-list
moonie says
jinggoy must be awfully hurting, gets caught in the dragnet of selective justice. can’t evade it, can’t sidestep, his freedom curtailed, damn justice. jinggoy has access to best lawyers money can buy, still he languishes in jail. not residing in his super mansion in wackwack that cost nearly 120millions to build! big spender jinggoy’s current jail domicile is probly a lot smaller than the bathroom of the kasambahay residing in his mansion. no justice talaga. I would have to shed reptilian tears for jinggoy.
sad, pa rin talaga. money is not what it used to be. can’t buy him justice, cant buy him freedom, cant unselect him from selective justice. malupit ang tadhana. wonder what jinggoy had done to deserve stupid tadhana.
still, the food in jail is probably not bad, the regimen good. and jinggoy is still fit and health and strong, and has not lost weight to the extent that he would fit into one of the duffel bags that bagwoman ruby used to bring to senate. jinggoy cannot make good his escape yet.
junie garcia says
Diyan magaling si GPL, Blame game. Blaming everyone except herself for problems she herself created.
Marmee Cruz says
Tsk…tsk Grace Poe is such a trapo. Disappointing.
moonie says
learning by osmosis yan, ex kindergaten teacher is surrounded by trapos and became trapo herself. wala kasing panindigan, naturally, she concedes.
yvonne says
THE SMIOKING GUN IS STILL SMOKING!
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The decision of the COMELEC Second Division on the disqualification case against Grace Poe contains the following indisputable facts:
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Per her travel log, Poe used her U.S. passports on:
July 20, 2007, July 23, 2007, October 31, 2007, October 5, 2008, April 20, 2009, May 21, 2009, July 31, 2009, August 3, 2009, August 15, 2009, December 27, 2009.
Note that the period July 20, 2007 to July 23, 2007 was a span of 3 days only.
Note also that the period July 31, 2009 to August 3, 2009 was also a span of 3 days only.
Those days clearly were not for travels to the U.S. because a round-trip to the U.S. takes two days already. Those were clearly travels to nearby destinations, such as Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, Taipei, or any nearby foreign destinations.
Grace Poe may make the argument that she had no choice but use her U.S. passport when traveling to or from the U.S. because she was required by law to use it as a U.S. citizen.
But when Grace Poe used her U.S. passport to any destination other than the U.S., when she could have used a Philippine passport, then it is an incontrovertible proof that she considered herself domiciled, and in fact she was domiciled, in the U.S. during those times.
Therefore she could not have been acquired a Philippine domicile for 10-years by the time of this year’s presidential election when she was still U.S. domiciled as recently as 2009, on the basis of her travel records alone.
Rene-Ipil says
I don’t see much smoke anymore. There seems a conflagration courtesy of Yvonne. And I bet that in the immigration card filled up and submitted by GPL to Hongkong authorities, she indicated her residence in the US. I am almost sure she went to Hongkong for shopping purposes because one goes to Tokyo, Taipei, Bangkok, Singapore or KL to tour the place first and to go shopping second. Besides, Hongkong is the nearest of them all from Manila. But I don’t discount the probability of GPL going to Singapore in a short visit for financial and banking purposes.
NHerrera says
yvonne: Great. Your previous two posts and the current one NAILS IT TIGHT.
NHerrera says
Sorry guys and gals but I am dating my age. Why do I keep hearing The Platter’s song — Great Pretender. I’ve got to pay the Ear Specialist a visit.
yvonne says
You better be @NHerrera.
So you can hear clearly my closing arguments. Don’t miss it.
LOL!
NHerrera says
:-)
Ancient Mariner says
Equally as old, I keep hearing “American Woman” by The Guess Who.
baycas says
Ito…bagu-bago…pero parang oldie…
Gaya ng kay Binay at Marcos…
Para kay Mary Grace ito…
If your lips are moving, if your lips are moving
If your lips are moving, then you’re lyin’, lyin’, lyin’, babe
If your lips are moving, if your lips are moving
If your lips are moving then you’re lyin’, lyin’, lyin’, babe
NHerrera says
Ancient Mariner, baycas:
:-)
vander says
@NH,
i’ll help you out with your visit to an Ear Specialist…
just listen to this one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDQc1emhTeA.
a younger piece it is…:)
so soothing…
baycas says
The preliminary conference today at the SC will take care also of the indisputable facts.
I hope what transpired in the preliminary conference will be published later today or early tomorrow.
NHerrera says
Same here. Waiting for that too.
baycas says
http://www.bomboradyo.com/news/latest-news/item/135328-preliminary-conference-sa-dq-case-ni-sen-poe-itinakda-ngayong-araw-sc
baycas says
“Public Advisory,” ayon sa report…
NHerrera says
I believe the Supreme Court is proceeding with appropriate delicacy and due deliberation and caution so the public will have the appropriate appreciation of the facts and reasons when it finally makes a decision considering all the propaganda being made by Poe and her camp such as a TV add comparing her case with FPJ. Here is an election lawyer take on this ad:
Poe’s latest TV ad may backfire – Fortun, Macalintal (January 13th, 2016 09:22 PM)
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/755173/poes-latest-tv-ad-comparing-her-dq-case-with-fpj-may-backfire-fortun-macalintal#ixzz3xBdQLTvY
Poe and her camp are indeed in Panic Mode. They must be hoping that she can at least retain her Senate Seat.
baycas says
Ayon sa Camp Poe…
junie garcia says
Well, could it not be that she did this to avoid paying the travel tax imposed on Filipino citizens? What does it make of her now?
Mary says
Could this be true?
http://www.tribune.net.ph/headlines/i-used-us-passport-poe-admits-in-2011
‘I used US passport,’ Poe admits in 2011
Written by Tribune Wires Monday, 11 January 2016 00:00 font size decrease font size increase font size Print 40 comments
US ACKNOWLEDGEMENT obtained ONLY IN 2012
Independent presidential candidate Sen. Grace Poe hid the fact that she used her US passport as late as 2011 based on US consulate documents, contrary to her previous affidavits claiming that she used it for the last time on March 9, 2010.
Documents obtained by the Daily Tribune showed Poe herself admitted that she used her US passport when she travelled to the United States in September 2011 and finally in 2012 to secure documents surrendering her US nationality.
“I used my US passport,” Poe wrote as a reply to the query on what passport she used to travel to the United States in a questionnaire document called Information for the Possible Loss of US Citizenship which is attached with Poe’s Certificate of Loss of Nationality of the US (CLN) dated July 12, 2011. Poe, who became a naturalized US citizen in 2001, also admitted that she wasn’t able to perform the act of officially renouncing her American status before an authorized US officer during her stint as Movie Television Review and Classification Board (MTRCB) chairman.
Ancient Mariner says
If true, this must be the final nail in the coffin. Why am I smiling?
moonie says
result of grace’s dna test is supposed to be available on 17th of jan 2016. if negative, she might as well bury herself to be exhumed later, he, he, he. bury herself to hide from too much shame, no cell phone and internet connection, worms her only visitors. in sympathy, chiz may also want to bury himself, leaving heart free to marry neil llamanzares, he, he, he.
but no, grace will go back to america, her preferred home sweet home.
baycas says
@Mary,
Kung totoo…
Ipinamamalas lamang ni Mary Grace ang pagpapairal ng BEST OF BOTH WORLDS…na minsan ko nang tinuran dito: http://raissarobles.com/2015/09/25/i-told-dzrh-radio-why-vice-president-binay-owes-the-marcoses-big-time/comment-page-4/#comment-341673
Gagamitin ang US passport kung di puwede ang Philippine passport.
Gagamitin ang international laws kung di puwede ang Philippine laws.
Gagamitin ang anumang kumbiniyente…kung saan makalulusot…
baycas says
@Mary,
In the article you linked…
The admission belies her claim that she already followed the specific provision of law she invoked…as explained here:
http://raissarobles.com/2015/09/25/i-told-dzrh-radio-why-vice-president-binay-owes-the-marcoses-big-time/comment-page-4/#comment-341810
baycas says
The specific provision as reminded by @yvonne before, that is, if truly applicable on her as a foundling…
‘Yan ay isa na namang BUTAS na siya rin ang may kagagawan…
baycas says
Ang BUTAS na si Mary Grace din ang may-akda…
Pakibasa rito: http://raissarobles.com/2015/09/25/i-told-dzrh-radio-why-vice-president-binay-owes-the-marcoses-big-time/comment-page-4/#comment-341666
TOTONG says
Kung makalusot si Grace Poe at maging Presidente…
EKSENA SA SCHOOL – Teacher– Okey class gumawa ng talambuhay ng ating Presidente.
Student – eto ang isinulat: (sa isip ng bata very easy)
Talambuhay ng Presidente ng Pilipinas
Ma.Grace Poe Llmanzarez – ipinanganak Sept. 1968 sa Ilo-Ilo Phil.
Mga magulang (sa dugo)
Nanay……………………….di pa alam (unknown)
Tatay ………………………..di pa rin alam (still unknown)
Kapatid ……………………..syempre wala
Lolo Lola……………………….lalong wala
Pagdaan at nakalipas ang panahon lumaki ang batang student at dahil nga nakapag-aral at may edad na at nag-iisip na SOMETHING was WRONG.
raissa says
Meron siyang 2 kapatid.
chit navarro says
2 kapatid sa adopted parents niya?
kasi kung sa niisip nating tatay niya, hindi lang dalawa –
3 sa recognized”royal” family
at ilan pa sa labas, nakatulad niya?
junie garcia says
She’ll do whatever is convenient for her. I wonder what her principles are.
Rene-Ipil says
“‘I used US passport,’ Poe admits in 2011”
“Used” was used as past tense. Meaning that it could be 2006 to 2010 or before July 12, 2011 when her CLN was issued. And I understand GPL had undergone the process in the US embassy in Manila – not in US. BI records show that she departed from the Philippines on December 27, 2009 using US Passport.
If it is true that she came back using US passport on March 9, 2010, that date would be the last time GPL used her US passport. Because no travel record shows that GPL used her US passport after she renounced her US citizenship on October 20, 2010.
Ancient Mariner says
Of course, the answer must be in the past tense.
It very much depends on the exact wording of the question which is being answered. Conveniently (for the Tribune) they have generalized in quoting the formal question.
Perhaps somebody can provide the wording of the question GPL was answering.
Notwithstanding your access to BI records, I think the exact question and the exact answer is the important issue.
Ancient Mariner says
A blank of the form to which we refer. It seems @Rene-Ipil that you are correct. (Again)
https://eforms.state.gov/editdocument.aspx?documentid=240
It would be interesting to see the completed document.
yvonne says
I have a copy of the completed document answered by Grace Poe in her own signature. Anyone who wants a copy just email me.
yvonne says
I meant, written in her own handwriting.
Ancient Mariner says
I don’t have your email address. Is it public knowledge? If so please provide.
noemi says
I hope you have given the Comelec abd SC a copy of this document.
chit navarro says
Hi Yvonne, can you please e-mail the docs you have?
And also the complete articles you have posted on GPL?
I am trying to compile the articles but it seems I am missing one installment..
Happy New Year…. looking forward to a RoRo 2016!!!
yvonne says
Hi Chit,
Happy New Year, too. I’ll be happy to email you the docs I have but it will be after the week-end. My spouse and I are going out of town tonight up to the snow mountains (it’s a 3-day holiday week-end for him.)
Ancient Mariner says
Sadly, if the form DS-4079 is the document is using as a basis for their report then they (the Tribune) are bullshitting.
I can find no need or space for GPL to list her comings and goings to the US on this questionaire and I am sure she would not volunteer the information.
Perhaps they are referring to another questionaire. They did not state which document was being examined or give the question which she is purported to have answered.
Come on the Tribune, give us some substantiation.
I make the above comments as one who is very anti-GPL but truth and fairness must prevail. (Despite all of GPL’s skulduggery)
Kalahari says
Sen. Johnny Enrile is back in action, running berserk and spewing fire – at PNoy
In an interview with Radyo Inquirer 990AM, Enrile said, “There was a failure of leadership in Mamasapano, there was a failure of leadership in that fiasco in Luneta, It’s always a failure of leadership. There was a failure of leadership in Yolanda.”
He added: I’m not about to be an adviser to a president but I would suggest to him to reexamine himself, and don’t be paranoid on imputing any motive against other people. Reflect on yourself and assert your leadership.” (Inquirer.net 1/13/16 5:26pm)
Fight Tanda. Now, we have a real opposition – but for how long?
Kalahari says
It was Enrile’s “personal knowledge” and supposed “new evidence” that prompted the re-opening of a senate probe into a controversial police operation one year later, but Sen. Enrile seems to have zoomed in one issue: President Benigno Aquino III’s involvement in it.
In the same interview, Enrile added “wala akong nalalaman na galaw ng gobyerno upang sagipin sila, at ano ba ang ginawa ng Presidente? Ano ba ang kanyang kinalaman diyan? Siya ang puno ng lahat ng pangyayari dito eh, hawak niya ang estado, he’s the head of the state, head of the government, he’s the chief executive, he’s the top policeman of the country, he’s the commander in chief of the armed forces, napakalawak ng kapangyarihan niya. Ano bang ginawa niya na hindi sinagip yung mga tao para kung may mamatay man ay hindi ganon kalaki?”
NHerrera says
SETTING THE STAGE FOR JANUARY 19 ORAL ARGUMENTS
SC sets preliminary conference on Poe’s DQ case on Thursday
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/122681/sc-sets-preliminary-conference-on-poes-dq-case-on-thursday
1. SC orders preliminary conference Thursday Jan 14 Thursday at 10:30 pm with Comelec, Poe, petitioners and their lawyers before the scheduled Oral Argument on January 19.
2. The 2 Comelec cases against Poe were ordered consolidated by SC.
3. Meantime, David’s petition against SET’s decision which was earlier scheduled also for Oral Argument on January 19 has been reset — to be announced later.
NHerrera says
In view of the above orders of the SC, I can see SC’s moves proceed as follows taking due consideration of Comelec’s time constraints:
1. Tackle Residency requirement first which to my non-lawyer mind seems easier to handle.
1.1 If Residency does not pass, CANCEL the COC for the Presidency; Comelec can then proceed with its work.
1.2 If Residency does not pass, SC STILL HAS to tackle the NBFC requirement.
1.2.1 If NBFC passes, Poe REMAINS as a Senator.
1.2.2 If NBFC does not pass, Poe is DISQUALIFIED as Senator.
2. If Residency passes, tackle the NBFC requirement.
2.1 If NBFC passes, COC for President is VALIDATED and Poe REMAINS as Senator.
2,2 If NBFC does not pass, COC is CANCELLED and Poe is DISQUALIFIED as Senator.
Edgar Lores says
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Flowchart confirms logic:
http://i.imgur.com/BzCaHWU.png
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NHerrera says
Thanks. That completes the picture, including possible journey to Palace if both Residency and NBFC pass. A picture indeed speaks a thousand words.
Lower emoticon — mouth of smiley curved upward?
NHerrera says
Unless you mean that even with the palace she may have problems governing, then the emoticon is ok.
Edgar Lores says
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He he. Just my little joke. Most of the flowchart is from the view of the Poe camp – except for the lower emoticon… which is from your view — the view of the non-Poe camp.
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NHerrera says
:-)
baycas says
@NHerrera,
I noticed @springwoodman’s bottom emoticon too.
:-D
leona says
. . . to complete the ‘story’ . . . of NHerrera –
GPL is not a ‘natural born Filipino citizen’ . . . . cannot be qualified as senator per SC ruling.
She cannot be qualified as candidate for P also per SC ruling.
The Senate, in the end, will have the bitter pill to swallow and be the one to remove GPL as a senator.
‘Story of GPL now complete.’ – > > > >
NHerrera says
If the events do follow the route(s) of SC ruling that GPL does not pass the NBFC requirement, your note does complete the picture — the Senate will have to take the bitter pill they earlier refused to swallow.
:)
Mary says
Hi, raissa
My latest comment is under moderation.
It has just one link, is it because it’s quite long?