And also, could you pls ask the Philippine Red Cross & International Federation of the Red Cross if they supported the Philippine dengue vaccination program knowing it was dengvaxia that was going to be used?
By Raissa Robles
Should former President Benigno Aquino III be held responsible for dengvaxia deaths?
Along with President Rodrigo Duterte.
Both implemented the program: President Aquino for THREE MONTHS, and President Duterte for FIFTEEN MONTHS.
Duterte bears a bigger burden because he continued it despite the fact that the World Health Organization (WHO) had already issued a position paper outlining the risks.
In late July 2016—weeks after Duterte became President, the WHO finally came out with its findings and recommendation:
“…vaccination may be ineffective or may theoretically even increase the future risk of hospitalized or severe dengue illness in those who are seronegative at the time of first vaccination regardless of age.”[i] As this risk had at that time not been seen in the age groups for which the vaccine was licensed, WHO issued a conditional recommendation, emphasizing the use of the vaccine in populations having been previously infected with dengue virus.
To minimize illness for seronegative vaccinated people, WHO recommends enhancing measures that reduce exposure to dengue infection among populations where the vaccine has already been administered. For vaccine recipients who present with clinical symptoms compatible with dengue virus infection, access to medical care should be expedited to allow for proper evaluation, identification, and management of severe forms of the disease.”
By July 1, 2016, Duterte had assumed office and Paulyn Ubial was his Secretary of Health. Despite the WHO position paper, Ubial said she continued the dengvaxia vaccination program.
Over a year later in December 2017, Ubial told a Senate committee probe that certain House lawmakers had pressured her into expanding the vaccination program.
Duterte could have stopped the program when he assumed office in July, but he didn’t. Ubial temporarily halted it TEN MONTHS LATER in May 2017. But she resumed it in June 2017. Then scrapped it SIX MONTHS LATER in December 2017.
When the Duterte government finally stopped giving vaccinations, spokesman Harry Roque said: “He (Duterte) would have done the same thing (Aquino did) because he himself has suffered from dengue and you can’t deprive the people of what they thought would be protection against a deadly disease when it existed.”
Are dengvaxia deaths, if criminal neglect is proven, an impeachable crime?
The bar for impeachable crimes has fallen quite drastically, if you watch the House committee deliberation on the impeachment of Chief Justice Maria Lourdes Sereno.
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I have also long been waiting for Senator Dick Gordon, who wears the double hat of chairman of the Philippine Red Cross, to summon before his probe committee someone from the Red Cross as well as the International Federation of the Red Cross.
He could then ask them—politely, or in his trademark bellicose berating style – if they had endorsed the use of dengvaxia.
The Philippine Red Cross is a prestigious and respected Philippine NGO and volunteer organization. It is a member of the International Federation of the Red Cross.
In other words, both the Philippine Red Cross and International Federation of the Red Cross are what you would call “influencers”.
On March 9, 2016, during the heat of the 2016 electoral campaign where Gordon was running for senator, the International Federation of the Red Cross website published a news release.
The release was entitled: “Philippine Red Cross aids efforts to halt dengue and avert Zika.”
It was accompanied by a photo that had the following caption: “The IFRC plans to support the Philippine Red Cross health teams and volunteers to spread awareness of the dengue vaccine to health centres and communities. Photo Credit: IFRC”
The name of the dengue vaccine was not mentioned in the news release. But it was most probably the dengvaxia vaccine of Sanofi. By then, dengvaxia was the only commercially available anti-dengue vaccine in the country.
The caption indicated that the Philippine Red Cross itself mobilized its health teams and volunteers “to spread awareness of the dengue vaccine to health centres and communities.”
The story did not contain any of the words of caution that we are hearing now—that those who have not had dengue should NOT be vaccinated.
In fact, Kate Marshall of the IFRC wrote that:
“Dr Bhanu Pratap, Health Coordinator for the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC) in Philippines, says the introduction of the vaccine is a positive move, especially for those living in the worst affected areas and for children.
The IFRC plans to support Philippine Red Cross health teams and volunteers to spread awareness of the vaccine to health centres and communities as part of the overall Epidemic Preparation and Response Plan.
Through its donor network, the Philippine Red Cross provides 53% of the Philippines’ total blood supply. Some dengue sufferers require platelet transfusions to stop internal bleeding. Blood platelets are essential for normal blood clotting, but donation and extraction is a time-consuming process. According to Dr Pratap the vaccine would help reduce the burden on health and blood facilities, especially in areas that are already stretched to the limit, and on the donated blood supply.
The IFRC plans to support Philippine Red Cross health teams and volunteers to spread awareness of the vaccine to health centres and communities as part of the overall Epidemic Preparation and Response Plan.”
THAT is a categorical endorsement of the available dengue vaccine.
The article stressed the importance of the vaccine by stating the following:
- In 2015, dengue affected some 400 million people (NOTE: That’s 5% of the estimated 7.2 billion world population).
- However, two out of every three dengue cases were in Asia.
- The Philippine government spends some US$336 million yearly to combat dengue. (NOTE: That’s roughly P16 billion based on the foreign exchange rate of P49 per US dollar. In contrast, dengvaxia cost the government P3.5 billion.)
- In the year 2015, the number of dengue cases in the Philippines surged to 200,000 cases—or an increase of 80,000 cases in 2014, according to Marshall.
- Curiously, her article stated that – “The World Health Organisation has declared dengue a global epidemic and will include vaccination as part of its global prevention and control strategy to contain the disease.”
The WHO now says it never gave a blanket endorsement of the vaccine in March 2016.
However, IFRC’s Kate Marshall seemed to be under the impression that WHO was all for the vaccine in March 2016 because she says WHO “will include vaccination as part of its global prevention and control strategy.”
Seeing that there was no other vaccine commercially available at that time except for dengvaxia in the Philippines, the WHO’s alleged intention to “include vaccination as part of its global prevention and control strategy” can only be referring to dengvaxia at that time.
You can read a copy of the IFRC news release in the IFRC website by clicking here.
I believe writer Manolo Quezon also mentioned the same news release in his opinion piece entitled last December “Contrasting official reactions“.
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The search for a dengue vaccine has been going on for decades without success.
The gravity of the disease, also according to Kate Marshall of IFRC, was tackled in an ASEAN Dengue Summit in Angeles City, Pampanga in June 2014.
The summit underscored that “the 10 member countries have the highest number of dengue cases in the Asia-Pacific, which accounts for 75 per cent of all infections worldwide.”
Economic losses were cited:
“Speaking at the conference, Professor Donald Shepard of the Schneider Institutes for Health Policy at Brandeis University, US, said dengue outbreaks in Southeast Asia were responsible for economic losses of $950 million US dollars each year.”
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I believe we should not lose this context in the ongoing dengvaxia probe.
Dengue is a very serious and expensive disease to have. There has been a long and pressing need for an effective vaccine.
Given the 2014 ASEAN Dengue Summit and the seeming March 2016 backing of the International Federation of the Red Cross and the Philippine Red Cross for a vaccine program, the few voices who had expressed caution in injecting dengvaxia were all but drowned out.
out of topic sorry
IS PRESIDENT DU30 THE COUNTRY’S BIGGEST MONEY LAUNDERER, WHY IS AMLA NOT COOPERATING WITH OMBUDSMAN IN RELEASING HIS BANK RECORDS?
Hindi ba signatory ang RP sa international treaty against money launderers, bakit ayaw magcooperate ng AMLA, ang na create na anti money laundering authority sa Pinas?
Pwede pala yon a country ‘s anti money landering authority can just ignore its duty of protecting international transactions against money launderers when it comes to a country’s President’s ilicit activities?
Ang malaking duda rito yung head ng AMLA inappoint ni du30..kaya ba ayaw magcooperate?
Hindi ba to makakaapekto sa international financial transsactions in the Philippines kung may duda na puro pala money launderers ang may posisyon ngayon sa RP government beginning with its President kasi yung agency na inatasan pumigil at magmonitor sa money laundering ay ayaw mag cooperate sa investigation on money laundering?
Kaya nga dapat lang buksan ni Du30 yung kanyang bank accounts para mawala ang duda sa international standing ng Pilipinas, pero buksan nga kaya nya?
latest alam ko ang value ng peso is 52 to a u.s. dollar, pinakamababa na yata yan not only in phil history kundi sa buong south east asia na. atat ng finance chief na that’s because u.s. dollar is higher in value and stronger. aba, for his info po that has been so for most of the time, but having the peso as weakest na sa south east asia in 2018 just because the dollar is strong, I think, finance chief has lost his mojo. foreign investors have pulled out and investing elsewhere dahil super inflated daw kasi ang stocks natin, not showing true value kuno.
tama ka po about racela, nagbago ang amoy niya, protector na yata siya ngayon ng mga money launderer. he owe his job to duterte and now he is owned body and soul na. toothless na ang amla. racela lost his nerve!
methink, this federalism is just to ward off inquiries about duterte. he has hired 19 consultants to do fool’s errand, for a fee. and they’ll dance with wolves, he, he, he, naked if need be and piss on the constitution as well, all for a price. not job yan for the lily hearted, thier credibility for a fee, the higher the credibility the higher the fee and the richer they’ll be. methink again po, out of the 25, 19 took the offer, the 6 silently declined wanting no part of it.
Money launderer and a president that’s scared shit of the Amazonas and the chinks.
Creeping terrorists and island grabbers he couldn’t have the will to fight NOT even swear with his brand of P.. I..
Sa mga sosyalera, take your pick, punyemas or punyeta… same script.
The west has now seen his true colors. Pinoys are the last to know.
SOME ARE REALLY HOPELESSLY CLUELESS.
Johnny Lin says
W A R N I N G
Latest News in America Today.
“US Intelligence warned Americans not to buy smartphones made by HUAWEI and ZTE. They use technologies to gather private information from users which could be relayed to Chinese government because the companies have financial link to China. US govt is advised not to purchase technologies from these two Chinese companies”
Duterte has promoted and endorsed a Third Telco in the Philippines to be given to Chinese companies. Specifically, the Third Telco is ZTE with HUAWEI smartphones.
Not only the SCARBOROUGH Shoals had been surrendered by Duterte to China; Benham Rise used as Research Communication Center by China under the explicit direction by Duterte,; incoming are all government secrets and future Philippine military and economic if strategies will now be given to China FREE of Charge, Courtesy of Duterte.
FEDERALISM will make it easier for Duterte to cuddle with China. Speaker Alvarez and Davao boys are making a killing on China largesse by promoting Third Telco and FEDERALISM.
Spread on FB and Twitter to warn the FILIPINOS on the hidden agenda of FEDERALISM
FBI Director Chris Wray explained that “It provides the capacity to maliciously modify or steal information and it (HUAWEI) also has the capacity to conduct undetected espionage.”
Johnny Lin says
Latest News in the Philippines
Duterte spokesperson Harry Roque is NOW the official spokesman ALSO of China.
Roque said that China”did not have intentional “Bad Faith” in naming PH Benham Rise Features”.
China has kept silent on the subject matter yet Roque is defending their intentions. If China did not have bad intention, it should have notified Philippine Authority before submitting to International Martime institution their naming of the features since they knew Benham Rise is sovereign to the Philippines.
Everytime Roque “OPENS HIS MOUTH” lately, it is detrimental to the dignity and honor of the Philippines except for his oral loving pleasure
He he he
roque is bad intentioned! and just like his amo(r), he cannot be taken seriously. spoxman is pox-y! yada, yada, yada. dapat, chinese speak na si roque speaking in mandarin na, barking like a hapless chinese dog. he’s more credible that way.
so, while china was naming the sea mounts, roque was where? cayetano was where? twiddling their thumbs, perhaps!
all the more reason duterte et al should not be handed federalism. they’ll just exacerbate problems! two years na in office and all his admin have accomplished is higher number of people killed, broken promises na naman, free education for all kuno, pero walang pondo, parents are still paying school tuition. duterte’s freedom of info is peke, him not signing bank waiver.
build, build, build and china did, not just building in the reefs but naming as well as was done in benham rise.
dont give duterte the federalism he craves! he cannot handle the truth!
and just like what china did in benham rise, sooner rather than later, china will buy out the remaining telcos in pinas! give china an inch, and china will extract a mile. give china a foothold and they’ll come, see and conquer.
duterte want close relationship with china, por bida the chinese are already closer than he thinks! breathing right next to us.
my mind is set na po. I’m going to boycott plebiscite, di bale na kong mag-isa ako!
I’m not going to be part of the data trolls maniputate just so duterte’s federalism can get the votes!
Again out of topic sorry
1. Harry Roque said the Ombudsman “cannot arrogate” to Congress the power to dismiss its members.said the Ombudsman “cannot arrogate” to Congress the power to dismiss its members. He also question the timing of the Ombudsman. While Alverez, said that the action was during the time when Gwendolyn Garcia was still a governor.
I’m not a lawyer and I am not sure if this may contradict Harry Roque, Republic Act No. 6770 section 5, paragraph 3 which is as follows :
(3) Direct the officer concerned to take appropriate action against a public officer or employee at fault or who neglect to perform an act or discharge a duty required by law, and recommend his removal, suspension, demotion, fine, censure, or prosecution, and ensure compliance therewith; or enforce its disciplinary authority as provided in Section 21 of this Act: provided, that the refusal by any officer without just cause to comply with an order of the Ombudsman to remove, suspend, demote, fine, censure, or prosecute an officer or employee who is at fault or who neglects to perform an act or discharge a duty required by law shall be a ground for disciplinary action against said officer;
correct me if I am wrong, diba it state “take appropriate action” which means the ombudsman has the power to dismissed a public officer?
diba? they push with d5’s case when she was still a secretary and strongly believed that de5 has to face the case? So why now, hindi na pwede?
2nd… the crazy old man has again made a very disturbing and unruly comments (i’m sure alam na ninyo yon),
Rouqe said that it the old crazy man’s word should not be taken literally. ANO daw?
The old crazy man is the president, he definitely should watch his words.
both roque and the crazy old man cannot be taken seriously and should not use their highly paid positions to talk rubbish. next time po: if crazy old man talks rubbish again, he should give warning that his talks are not to be taken seriously.
give warning! so listeners can be informed b4 hand. likewise, his guards and followers should carry placard advising the same. instead of them just standing like kandilang nakatirik!
warning: this crazy old man’s talk cannot be taken seriously. his martial law should not be taken seriously, military and kapolisan beware. his supposedly pay rises should not be taken seriously, his pronouncements that he cannot go to war with china should not be taken seriously. duck tape his mouth, then! he, he, he.
already, kapolisan did not take crazy old man seriously at natulog tuloy sa trabaho! drinking at work pa. nasibak sila sa pwesto, sad. good fit pa naman sila ni crazy old man, same, same.
aba, gwendolyn garcia once nagtago sa cebu city hall, ayaw magpahuli! baka this time po, sa senate siya titira at magtatago. else, for protection, bubuntot-buntot siya kay alvarez, where alvarez go, she goes, parang kabit na, he, he, he.
ang gobyernong ito is providing solace and protection to corrupts, grafters and liars.
habang si gwen mismo is re-creating yata the lost city of atlantis sa cebu, he, he, he. namili ng ekta-ektaryang swamp, land under water, using millions of taxpayers money. money that I think, was re-routed to her pockets. kaya pala sobrang eager si gwen ng federalism. for under federalism yata and in the carving up of regions, she will end up owning the whole of cebu, her dynasty will end up owing the whole of cebu, and her crimes will all go absolved and unpunished in cebu.
crazy old man’s federalism should not be taken seriously! those 19 sa consultative committee tasked with haggling the constitution beware: you’re on a fool’s errand.
not job kuno yan for the lily hearted yan, sabi ni puno. bwelta ko, job yan for the crazies! and the 19 are just as crazy to indulge crazy old man, and they’ll crazily pocket consultant’s fee in the millions, he, he, he.
If Speaker Pantalon Alvarez will continue to defy the dismissal order of the ombudsman, there’ll be constitutional crisis.
It is believed that to break the impasse, the ombudsman should pursue the criminal aspect and file the corruption charges with the Sandiganbayan who – upon determining the probable cause – will issue an arrest order that will be enforced by the PNP
In that case, gwen can no longer hide under the pantalon of alvarez and she may likely join bong revilla and leila de lima in their special detention center at Camp Creme
Johnny Lin says
Dengvaxia vaccine is generally safe. Problem is, it is POLITICIZED for as usual personal interest of politicians by dangling to poor victims parents that they could make money out of their loss.
About 2-3 yrs ago, in one of Raissa’s thread we had extensive discussions about Dengue due to the fact that the son of De Venezia was mediating the sale to DOH under Sec Ona a herbal supplement to be tested across the nation. In that thread I posted that supplement was “snake medicine” but Sanofi was in the fringe of putting out a vaccine for Dengue after successful Phase III trial. I also posted that the 2 countries being considered for initial distribution for mass inoculation was Brazil and the Philippines due endemic occurrence of Dengue in both countries compared to other countries.
BEFORE DENGVAXIA, HOW MANY FILIPINOS DIE OF DENGUE DUE TO POOR ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE, POOR SANITATION AND SIMPLE POVERTY OF THE VICTIMS? Answer is thousands yearly, meaning the Philippines and its healthcare system was HELPLESS in PREVENTING DUENGUE DEATHS DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCIAL FACTORS MENTIONED. These were proven and confirmed DEATHS, mostly not assisted or identification by autopsy but simple reports from hospital and healthcare personnel. The meaning of Dengue deaths without vaccine was the ration was too high. Since there was no documented statistics, we don’t know how many were afflicted with the disease but we knew how many were dying ANNUALLY, by the hundreds if not thousand FILIPINOS mostly children because they were the most vulnerable. Those who died after receiving DENGVAXIA still did not show gross and microscopic evidence that the vaccine was the primary cause of death. Compare those who died before without vaccines definitely diagnosed as dying fromDengue. Statistical difference speaks for itself.
After DENGVAXIA, HOW MANY DEATHS WERE REPORTED OUT OF ALMOST 1 million FILIPINOS vaccinated? FOURTEEN out of Hundred thousands vaccinated. That is less than .001% of those who received the vaccination. More FILIPINOS die from side effects of kidney failure due to dring blood pressure and diabetis pills. Ever wondered why there are so many dialysis clinics in the Philippines. Many are due to side effects of medicines taken. Yet no politician is complaining because they don’t see dollar sign in their eyes.
Three(3) years ago. Gordon was and still is prèsident of PRC. He did not complain about massive vaccination in the Phiippines to prevent Dengue infection. He did not complain because he knew , Dengue vaccination was NECESSARY EVIL since many deaths from Dengue occured due to poor healthcare of the FILIPINOS. Gordon knew that DENGVAXIA would save many lives. Gordon also knew that in every mediciation, it is inevitable to have side effects. Gordon should know very well because his brother in law (his sister husband)is the medical director of a leading pharmaceutical company based in New Jersey USA involved with making vaccines and Cancer drugs. I know for a fact that while Gordon is PRC president he used to inquire from his in law about safety and availability medicines and vaccines direly needed in the Philippines.
Everyone in DOH from the Secretary to the lowliest employee involved in healthcare knew that Dengue vaccine would be a gamble in reducing MORTALITY and MORBIDITY which was already prevalent for decades in the Philippines. A vaccine would alleviate many miseries and loss of life. And the Philippines needed it at all cost. That’s why it was highly recommended to Près Aquino and to Duterte, for that matter. Every knowledgeable politician including Gordon knew that the advantages of the vaccine was greater than disadvantages.
Every doctor or nurses knew that few deaths from a new drug or vaccine are acceptable rather than catching the disease with high mortality rate without vaccination. The latter was a FACT for decades in the Philippines while the former was HOPEFULLY promising. For any physician who would deny that side effects of DENGVAXIA were not existing before given to the FILIPINOS, This doctor is actually ignorant. Taking for granted that Sanofi did not disclose that the vaccine could be dangerous for those who did not have previous Dengue, still that’s almost immaterial and acceptable since all physicians and nurses knew that side effects from new drug could be existing.
In medical treatment and prevention, side effects are inevitable especially with new drugs and vaccines. It’s what the phrase “within the limits of medical certainty” identifying effects of all drugs, whether new or old, refers to.
Politicians have seized the opportunity to attack the vaccines because of CLAIMS that deaths(less than 20) were due to the vaccine. it was an opportunity for these politicians to pinpoint blame and stir the parents of victims to “smell money”. They are barking at the wrong tree, the vaccine, Près Aquino and Sanofi? when many more FILIPINOS without vaccination start to die in great numbers again, let’s hear from them than!
It’s possible that the procedure at DOH in procuring the drugs might be faulty but in the end Dengue vaccine is a necessary evil preventing many deaths from Dengue, like before. As of today, there is no 100%proof that DENGVAXIA cause the deaths of 14 victims but WE ABSOLUTELY KNOW THAT MORE THAN HALF A MILLION FILIPINOS VACCINATED DID NOT GET DENGUE FEVER. This is incontestable fact.
Within the limits of Medical Certainty, THATS ENORMOUS SUCCESS OF A NEW VACCINE, THEN LOOK AT THE SIDE OF BRAZIL WHO ALSO GAVE THE VACCINE TO ITS CITIZENS WITHOUT “POLITICAL HULLABALLOU” IN THEIR COUNTRY.
No wonder, FILIPINOS are vilified by other races because of our greedy politicians dangling money as bait offered to victims by these scoundrels. Gordon With or without vaccines, these victims could have died, if not from endemic Dengue or from other illness caused by many factors.
Blaming someone after the fact is the favorite pastime of opportunists like Gordon.
Sir Johny Lin,
Thank you for the spot on analysis. I hope you will turn this into an open letter to Senator Gordon, even if he reads this.. At least, the citizenry, in particular that those who do not have access to internet and those who were still blaming former President Aquino of implementing the vaccination.. Just a suggestion..
please lang po, we only have two forensic pathologists in our country, sina dr lim at dr fortun. these two would have liked to get to the bottom of dengvaxia fiasco. pero, public attorney’s office, atty acosta, is uncooperative and refuses to share tissue samples of those initially autopsied. ayaw ni acosta na mabusisi ang specimens na ginamit ng mga hired ‘pathologists’ niya. why naman po? kung after justice po sila, so are we. and if they’re after the truth, we are also after the truth. so, let us compare po all findings and results and come to a conclusion. hwag lang yong hadhadlangin ni acosta ang final conclusion dahil after justice kuno siya. eh? hadlang justice more like.
sabi, sina dr fortun and dr lim ay sangkot kuno ng drug companies like sanofi and might not be impartial. aba, all doctors, nurses even, and all health professionals ay sangkot ng mga drug companies dahil their line of work involves almost always with drugs. they treat patients by prescribing drugs!
acosta may not know this, but the doctors and pathologists she hired ay maybe sangkot din po ng mga drug companies, opposing drug companies to sanofi!
may vested interests kuno ang up-pgh dahil pro drugs sila; well, may vested interests din po ang mga pathologists hired by acosta because she is paying them big bucks, she has bought their services and their loyalty.
as of now po, atty acosta is of the belief that only the dengvaxia findings of her hired pathologists are correct, the rest are all wrong. and just because she has the support kuno of duterte and doj, she must be right!
those who have nothing to hide, hides nothing. and if atty acosta is right and correct, she risked not having the correctness of her dengvaxia findings endorsed by esteemed peers the likes of dr fortun and dr lim as well as doctors from up-pgh.
and no matter what atty acosta says, her findings will always be suspect because they have not gone through the rigors.
if acosta had not been in much hurry, she could have covered all her bases and have her autopsies filmed. for scientific and medical purposes only, taking care that the identities of the cadavers are protected and not revealed. the films can then be reviewed later, studied and archived for the future use.
Government office ang PAO ibig sabihin ay government funding ang ginamit nila. Bakit ayaw nila magshare ng specimens sa ating 2 government experts? Lately mag hire daw ng foreign expert. Kung walang vested interest ano ba ang tawag sa mga ginagawa ng PAO?
Mga tauhan ni du30 walang tiwala as kakayahan ng highly skilled kapwang pinoy
chinese foreign experts kaya ang kukunin? o someones foreign and blinkered enough to endorse acosta’s findings?
our doctors and nurses are in demand overseas and yet, here’s acosta aangkat overseas . . . aba, baka overseas pinoy experts pa ang makuha niya, he, he, he. will she reject them just because they’re pinoys at alma mater nila ang up, university of the phil?
anyway, sabi ni acosta yong mga na-autopsy daw meron enlarged organs. what organs, the gonads, the sex organs? he, he, he. acosta has got to be specific. and if she meant lymph nodes, you dont have to be dead to have enlarged lymph nodes, happens most of the time when the body is fighting infection, mostly sa singit if not sa kili-kili.
at kung ang liver ay enlarged, dapat sabihin ang ratio like 1:2 just to give idea of the extent of the enlargement. enlarged liver dahil may worms kaya, not forgetting the cadavers were buried underground at decomposing na, and maybe full of gas pa, by product of oxidation. enlarged as in maybe may lessions that are probly cancerous o benign? sometimes kids have enlarged liver dahil may hepatitis sila.
at saka, dapat sinabi ni acosta ang timbang ng mga enlarged ‘organs’ upang maikumpara sa timbang ng mga ordinaryong organs, to reiterate her point.
. . . just to add:
autopsies are being done
to determine if dengvaxia vaccine was cause of death
how many? 14? 15? 20?
Compare to those still LIVING after the vaccine was
given. . . 1,000? 100,000? 500,000? There is no comparative
Report in fact being submitted to the Blue Ribbon Cmtee
Should there be such a factual Report? Yes.
500,000 alive, no dengue fever Johnny Lin blogs.
Sen. Gordon Atty. Acosta etcetera…Ano ang bet mo?
UP-PGH forensic pathologists presented their diagnosis on 14 children who supposedly died due to the controversial dengue vaccine “dengvaxia” a.k.a. “dengraxia”
Their findings: only 3 deaths were found to have “causal association” with the dengue vaccine. – Rappler 2/5/18
Clarification – 3 of 14 kids died of dengue after Dengvaxia shot – UP-PGH panel
sana po, since there are 10 more cadavers awaiting autopsy, I heard that in bandila news, acosta, if she’s not so territorial, will allow the up-pgh panel to attend autopsy conducted by her own ‘experts’. invite and let them be there to see how the autopsies and the prelims are carried, and maybe, give commentaries too. you know doctors, they like to share and contribute to knowledge base, for the good of all. that’s what professionalism is all about.
instead of just acosta yelling at up-pgh to go and find their own cadavers!
Arc, Acosta is like a hen trying to cross the street leading to the senate – and since the traffic is heavy, she keeps “putak ng putak” to attract attention.
She is being blamed for the horrific fears of parents whose children have been vaccinated by dengraxia
Any kawawa ay ang mga magulang na napaniwala ni Acosta. Nilusob si garin after the hearing. Now lulusubin din ba ng mga magulang si Acosta?
ako rin po, natakot sa pinagsasabi ni acosta, naputakan ng inaheng manok na ito. may internal bleeding kuno yong cadavers na na-autopsy na ng mga experts niya. dyos ko po, zombie kaya ang mga cadavers na ito! cadavers dont bleed, the dead dont bleed, wala na silang dugo. pero, there’s a thing called liquification where the inside of cadavers liquefies, the liquid nearly the same color as stagnant water, greyish, dull and murky. in medical term yata the liquid is called exudates, and they ooze. and what is blood to acosta could well be exudates.
Johnny Lin says
Acosta and her supposed pathologist DrErfe described his autopsy findings as “gross swelling and hemorrhagic body organs” which description is common to dying patients undergoing SHOCK or “systemic shutdown of body organs”. On autopsy, the organs appear to be enlarged and hemorrhagic due to CONGESTION which is pooling of fluids and blood within the failing primary organs mainly, brain, liver kidney, lungs, hearts. Histologically or MICROSCOPIC findings post autopsy will differentiate actual internal bleeding from hemorrhagic congestion. In Dengue, cells will show INTACELLULAR lysis and hemorrhages compared to mere “Hemorrhagic Congestion” described grossly or MACROSCOPICALLY.
Since Erfe or Acosta are spreading”fakeNews to stir the parents of victims into anger, they only discuss in the press interviews the GROSS APEEARANCE OF ORGANS. If they wanted to show proof of the autopsy results,Dr. Erfe would show pictures of MICROSCOPIC INTRACELLULAR HEMORRHAGES. Yet, he has not shown any!
It’s not odd that no forensic pathologists from PGH or other institutions would endorse the pronouncement of Dr, Erfe without seeing histological autopsy tissue evidence because they know that Erfe is a fear monger trying to get his miles of publicity.
Sanofi is morally right to reimburse UNUSED vaccines and legally correct denying reimbursement of USED vaccines because their vaccines provided “immunity” from deadly Dengue to almost one million needy Fillipinos although there were few victims from developing risky side effects falling under the limits of medical certainty.
Acosta should stop grandstanding using Duterte as an excuse!
Actually, due to Acosta’s fearmongering, many parents are rejecting immunizations to their children. So far there is already 1 dead child out of 100 children contacting measles because they refused measles vaccine. The ratio from this Measles deathis 1% due to FEAR from vaccination much higher than the ratio of 0.00025% of apparent deaths from DENGVAXIA.
PAO chief Acosta should be charged with “murder of innocent children from fear of getting vaccinated”
He he he
most appreciated, thanks po, johnny lin.
kahit slides lang naman, dr erfe should be able to show what he’s talking about. no slides, no proof. slides can be uploaded sa internet for all to peruse.
at kung aangkat sina acosta ng slides overseas, gaya ng sinabing niyang kukuha sila ng ‘foreign experts’ . . . dna testing ought to be done, baka those slides belong to others foreign, and not to pinoy dengvaxia victims, he, he, he.
the red cross and doh dapat should step in and show some semblance of control rather than let acosta run riot! scaring all and sundry.
If there is a vaccine that has the following:
1) only for 2 out of 4 strains
2) 60% efficacy rate on the 2 strains.
3) You can get more severe infections as a side effect (possibly die).
Would you buy that vaccine, would you get vaccinated for free?
Rep. Biazon: Sa inyo pong pagsasaliksik, sa ibang bahagi ng mundo na nag-implement ng Dengvaxia, ilan ho ang namatay ng ganitong conditions?
Dr. Leachon: Because we are the only country with a massive vaccination campaign.
Leachon lying. >300,000 inoculated with Dengvaxia in Brazil from August 2016 with no deaths reported.
Add M, Zubire,, Sherwyn G.to the list as high ranking Red Cross participants.
And Sara D.
OH. DIDN’T SEE THIS.
I wonder po, if sara had her children vaccinated against childhood diseases.
That needs to be done, the truth will set everyone free. This is about the health of the children… that is important and someone/some people should be punished accordingly.
The country is still lucky that the people are able to speak of their concerns, the days of free speech might be censored soon, but the peoples might can’t be quenched and vanquished.’ Your liberty is at stake.
Poor children died because of poor parents judgement on who the good leader should be put to the position… of peril …not for a better nation. Next time Pinoys, be more picky and don’t sell your votes cheaply.
Life is dear and priceless.
Here’s what happening in Australia, where even health workers are suppressed of free speech.
please lang po, I would like to add that there are cases when those already vaccinated with dengvaxia did not show dengvaxia immunoglobulin in their system. meaning kuno that dengvaxia failed and did not work.
it should be realized that when vaccine failed it could well be that there are children born with deviant body system, or simply deviant, and are resistant to some vaccine.
in my class po years ago, 7 of my classmates were deviants and resistant to bcg tuberculosis vaccination. they already have 3 bakunas and yet have not zero converted and would have no protection against tb. so, in the future, if they get in contact with someone who has tb, they’ll be infected.
Thank you ma,am raises. Sana isama nila si du30 sa next hearing kagaya as ginawa nila kay pnoy as mamasapano
It seems no one is doing any proper educational information to the populace about the pros and cons of the different vaccines. The govt is busy doing other things than serving the people well…. investigation on how corrupt that person is, how to impeach who, whom to blame/jail for the deaths of this and that.
The govt. makes the nation dumber and dumber ; instead got smart in cyber vicious fights. I am not surprised.
Serious matters are not dealt with but everyone is just looking who to blame.
People, do your job to be informed and tell your lawmakers to make interventions to educate you. .. to make you well informed of important issues health wise like vaccines where your taxes are spent and drugs you know nothing about are injected into your systems.
I am pro vaccine, for this was my job before I left the country. But sometimes, people should ask the authorities questions about the safety of the new vaccines.
Here’s a very long video to watch to become aware of the issues on vaccines. Thanks Raissa. Just wanted to help.
there are doctors and nurses po doing health educ specially sa outer suburbs where falsehood abound and parents are not so educated. but, I think, their efforts are falling on deafer ears dahil masyadong maingay kasi ang anti-vaxxers headed by atty acosta. na-alarma ng husto ang mga parents at ayaw nang pabakunahan ang mga anak.
well, may measles outbreak na ang dabaw of all places! sana hindi bumalik ang leprosy at small pox! baka pati polio, babalik din, typhus, at iba pa. dyos na mahabagin, let common sense prevail. and dont let meningiocococemia show its deadly fangs.